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* ''[[Suzumiya Haruhi]]''. The internet exploded after new episodes suddenly starting airing without any previous announcement. Well they did make an announcement, they said it was a rerun of the first season (which is technically true, as the new episodes were shown chronologically with the old ones).
* ''[[Suzumiya Haruhi]]''. The internet exploded after new episodes suddenly starting airing without any previous announcement. Well they did make an announcement, they said it was a rerun of the first season (which is technically true, as the new episodes were shown chronologically with the old ones).
* ''[[Rebuild of Evangelion]]''. [[Mind Screw|Maybe]].
* ''[[Rebuild of Evangelion]]''. [[Mind Screw|Maybe]].
* ''[[Rozen Maiden (Manga)|Rozen Maiden]] Tale'' started out as a [[What If]] manga that shows what would happen if Jun [[Red Pill B Lue Pill|decided not to wind]]. Then the story transitioned into where the original continuity (which was [[Cut Short]] in the original manga) left off...
* ''[[Rozen Maiden]] Tale'' started out as a [[What If]] manga that shows what would happen if Jun [[Red Pill, Blue Pill|decided not to wind]]. Then the story transitioned into where the original continuity (which was [[Cut Short]] in the original manga) left off...


== [[Film]] ==
== [[Film]] ==
* ''[[Alice in Wonderland]]'', the [[Alice in Wonderland (Film)|movie]], isn't too stealthy about it since Alice is older, but she starts off her adventure in nearly the same way as the original book. Then, while Alice is struggling with changing size, the Dodo remarks, "You'd think she'd remember all of this from the first time."
* ''[[Alice in Wonderland]]'', the [[Alice in Wonderland (film)|movie]], isn't too stealthy about it since Alice is older, but she starts off her adventure in nearly the same way as the original book. Then, while Alice is struggling with changing size, the Dodo remarks, "You'd think she'd remember all of this from the first time."
* The 2009 ''[[Star Trek (Film)|Star Trek]]'' film functions as both this and a [[Continuity Reboot|reboot]], with {{spoiler|Spock having arrived from the "original" timeline to provide some continuity}}.
* The 2009 ''[[Star Trek (film)|Star Trek]]'' film functions as both this and a [[Continuity Reboot|reboot]], with {{spoiler|Spock having arrived from the "original" timeline to provide some continuity}}.
** The main stealth part comes from the fact that the movie is not a full reboot, but rather an [[Alternate Timeline]], {{spoiler|caused, thanks to [[Time Travel]], by events in the future of the original timeline}}, that supercedes every movie and series but [[Star Trek Enterprise|one]].
** The main stealth part comes from the fact that the movie is not a full reboot, but rather an [[Alternate Timeline]], {{spoiler|caused, thanks to [[Time Travel]], by events in the future of the original timeline}}, that supercedes every movie and series but [[Star Trek: Enterprise|one]].
** It also offers a conclusion to the Federation's conflict with the Romulan Empire, which had been gradually developing since ''[[Star Trek the Original Series]]'': {{spoiler|just as the Federation is on the verge of peace with the Romulans, [[Shoot the Shaggy Dog|their home planet's star goes supernova and almost the entire species is wiped out]]}}.
** It also offers a conclusion to the Federation's conflict with the Romulan Empire, which had been gradually developing since ''[[Star Trek: The Original Series]]'': {{spoiler|just as the Federation is on the verge of peace with the Romulans, [[Shoot the Shaggy Dog|their home planet's star goes supernova and almost the entire species is wiped out]]}}.
* ''[[Catwoman (Film)|Catwoman]]'' is a stealth sequel to the Batman films, notably, ''[[Batman Returns (Film)|Batman Returns]]''. Her origin is identical to the one played by Michelle Pfeiffer, the Catwoman persona is said to be a [[Legacy Character]], and in the pictures of former "Catwomen", we see Michelle Pfeiffer's original character.
* ''[[Catwoman (film)|Catwoman]]'' is a stealth sequel to the Batman films, notably, ''[[Batman Returns]]''. Her origin is identical to the one played by Michelle Pfeiffer, the Catwoman persona is said to be a [[Legacy Character]], and in the pictures of former "Catwomen", we see Michelle Pfeiffer's original character.
** This is debatable though, considering Michelle Pfeiffer's character does not have actual superpowers, as opposed to Halle Berry's character.
** This is debatable though, considering Michelle Pfeiffer's character does not have actual superpowers, as opposed to Halle Berry's character.
* The [[Ridley Scott]] film ''[[Prometheus (Film)|Prometheus]]'' is a stealth prequel to ''[[Alien]]''.
* The [[Ridley Scott]] film ''[[Prometheus]]'' is a stealth prequel to ''[[Alien]]''.
** Similarly, the first ''[[Alien vs. Predator]]'' movie could be seen as a prequel to the ''[[Alien (Film)|Alien]]'' series proper. It starts out looking like a mindless slash-em-up crossover, but it goes on to explain the origin of the Xenomorph species as well as some details about The Company's genesis.
** Similarly, the first ''[[Alien vs. Predator]]'' movie could be seen as a prequel to the ''[[Alien (franchise)|Alien]]'' series proper. It starts out looking like a mindless slash-em-up crossover, but it goes on to explain the origin of the Xenomorph species as well as some details about The Company's genesis.
* ''Basement Jack'' is a loose sequel to ''[[Film/Evilution|Evilution]]'', the two film featuring the same old apartment building and creepy manager and his equally creepy display room of murderous artifacts, which he adds more weapons to at the end of both films (a vial of alien virus in ''Evilution'', and the eponymous character's sword in ''Basement Jack'').
* ''Basement Jack'' is a loose sequel to ''[[Film/Evilution|Evilution]]'', the two film featuring the same old apartment building and creepy manager and his equally creepy display room of murderous artifacts, which he adds more weapons to at the end of both films (a vial of alien virus in ''Evilution'', and the eponymous character's sword in ''Basement Jack'').
* At the end of ''[[Final Destination 5]]'' {{spoiler|two of the remaining survivors die in Flight 180, revealing the film to be a ''prequel'' to the first film.}}
* At the end of ''[[Final Destination 5]]'' {{spoiler|two of the remaining survivors die in Flight 180, revealing the film to be a ''prequel'' to the first film.}}
* ''[[Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom (Film)|Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom]]'' takes place before ''[[Raiders of the Lost Ark (Film)|Raiders of the Lost Ark]]'', and it's only indicated by the date at the beginning of the film.
* ''[[Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom]]'' takes place before ''[[Raiders of the Lost Ark]]'', and it's only indicated by the date at the beginning of the film.
* [[The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (Film)|The Good the Bad And The Ugly]] takes place before the first two movies in the [[Dollars Trilogy]].
* [[The Good, the Bad and the Ugly|The Good the Bad And The Ugly]] takes place before the first two movies in the [[Dollars Trilogy]].
* ''[[Nanny McPhee]] and the Big Bang''. The only connection to the first movie is revealed {{spoiler|at the very end, when a doddering old lady is revealed to be the baby of the first family all grown up.}}
* ''[[Nanny McPhee]] and the Big Bang''. The only connection to the first movie is revealed {{spoiler|at the very end, when a doddering old lady is revealed to be the baby of the first family all grown up.}}
* The ''[[21 Jump Street (Film)|Twenty One Jump Street]]'' film is actually a sequel to the original TV series. {{spoiler|It also induces [[Sudden Sequel Death Syndrome]] on Hanson and Penhall.}}
* The ''[[21 Jump Street (film)|Twenty One Jump Street]]'' film is actually a sequel to the original TV series. {{spoiler|It also induces [[Sudden Sequel Death Syndrome]] on Hanson and Penhall.}}


== [[Interactive Fiction]] ==
== [[Interactive Fiction]] ==
* ''[[Planetfall (Video Game)|Planetfall]]'' has a few references to [[Infocom]]'s previous sci-fi work ''Starcross'' that imply that it is set within the same universe several centuries later.
* ''[[Planetfall]]'' has a few references to [[Infocom]]'s previous sci-fi work ''Starcross'' that imply that it is set within the same universe several centuries later.
* ''Narcolepsy'' by [[Adam Cadre]] isn't advertised as a sequel to Adam Cadre's previous work I-0, but it isn't long before you run across a place mentioned in the prior game. Also, I-0's protagonist Tracy Valencia makes a somewhat in-joky cameo.
* ''Narcolepsy'' by [[Adam Cadre]] isn't advertised as a sequel to Adam Cadre's previous work I-0, but it isn't long before you run across a place mentioned in the prior game. Also, I-0's protagonist Tracy Valencia makes a somewhat in-joky cameo.
* ''Dinner with Andre'' by Liza Daly has a twist ending where the PC turns out to be the same character from Liza's previous IF work ''Bloodline'' several years later and sees someone she knows from that time.
* ''Dinner with Andre'' by Liza Daly has a twist ending where the PC turns out to be the same character from Liza's previous IF work ''Bloodline'' several years later and sees someone she knows from that time.
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== [[Video Games]] ==
== [[Video Games]] ==
* ''[[Shadow Hearts]]'' wasn't advertised as a sequel to ''Koudelka'', and indeed some people still claim that they don't have any real story links, despite {{spoiler|the recurring theme of the Emigre Document, the villain impersonating a character from Koudelka, the real version of that character turning up later, Koudelka herself playing a significant role, Koudelka's son being a party member, and the last chapter of Shadow Hearts taking place ''in the monastery Koudelka was set in''}}.
* ''[[Shadow Hearts]]'' wasn't advertised as a sequel to ''Koudelka'', and indeed some people still claim that they don't have any real story links, despite {{spoiler|the recurring theme of the Emigre Document, the villain impersonating a character from Koudelka, the real version of that character turning up later, Koudelka herself playing a significant role, Koudelka's son being a party member, and the last chapter of Shadow Hearts taking place ''in the monastery Koudelka was set in''}}.
* ''[[Shadow of the Colossus]]'' was a [[Prequel]] to ''[[ICO (Video Game)|ICO]]'', but you'd never realize until the very end. And even then you might not realize unless you were a big fan of ''Ico''.
* ''[[Shadow of the Colossus]]'' was a [[Prequel]] to ''[[Ico]]'', but you'd never realize until the very end. And even then you might not realize unless you were a big fan of ''Ico''.
* ''[[Vagrant Story]]'' was a sequel to ''[[Final Fantasy Tactics]]'', although this wasn't apparent until the whole [[Ivalice Alliance]] was fleshed out with more games.
* ''[[Vagrant Story]]'' was a sequel to ''[[Final Fantasy Tactics]]'', although this wasn't apparent until the whole [[Ivalice Alliance]] was fleshed out with more games.
* ''[[Captain Commando]]'' is a futuristic sequel to ''[[Final Fight]]''. The game is set in Metro City, Ginzu the Ninja is Guy's future successor in the ways of the Bushin school, and a bust of Mike Haggar can be obtained as a power-up.
* ''[[Captain Commando]]'' is a futuristic sequel to ''[[Final Fight]]''. The game is set in Metro City, Ginzu the Ninja is Guy's future successor in the ways of the Bushin school, and a bust of Mike Haggar can be obtained as a power-up.
* ''[[Dragon Quest III (Video Game)|Dragon Quest III]]'' looks like a [[Continuity Reboot]], but late in the game you find yourself on a very familiar world map, and the ending names you as the famed ancestor of the first two games' heroes.
* ''[[Dragon Quest III]]'' looks like a [[Continuity Reboot]], but late in the game you find yourself on a very familiar world map, and the ending names you as the famed ancestor of the first two games' heroes.
** ''[[Dragon Quest VI (Video Game)|Dragon Quest VI]]'' has thematic links to the other "Zenithian Trilogy" games (''IV'' and ''V''), but there are hints that it's actually a prequel.
** ''[[Dragon Quest VI]]'' has thematic links to the other "Zenithian Trilogy" games (''IV'' and ''V''), but there are hints that it's actually a prequel.
* ''[[Xeno Saga]]'' may or may not be a prequel to ''[[Xeno Gears]]''. Likewise, ''[[Xenoblade]]'' being a sequel to both. While ''Blade'' doesn't have much in common with the other two apart from some themes and design elements, and takes place in a different universe {{spoiler|''Saga'''s ending involves the main characters breaking the cycle of Eternal Recurrence, where the universe is constantly dying and being brought back exactly the same, while in ''Blade'' it's a major plot point that there was a completely different universe before the one the characters live in was born, suggesting that the actions of Shion and friends allowed the ''Blade''-verse to be born after their own world ended.}}
* ''[[Xenosaga]]'' may or may not be a prequel to ''[[Xenogears]]''. Likewise, ''[[Xenoblade]]'' being a sequel to both. While ''Blade'' doesn't have much in common with the other two apart from some themes and design elements, and takes place in a different universe {{spoiler|''Saga'''s ending involves the main characters breaking the cycle of Eternal Recurrence, where the universe is constantly dying and being brought back exactly the same, while in ''Blade'' it's a major plot point that there was a completely different universe before the one the characters live in was born, suggesting that the actions of Shion and friends allowed the ''Blade''-verse to be born after their own world ended.}}


== [[Web Comics]] ==
== [[Web Comics]] ==

Revision as of 04:04, 8 April 2014

When a Sequel or Prequel to a work isn't actually stated or advertised as a sequel/prequel. At first, it looks like a Spiritual Successor, Continuity Reboot, Alternate Universe, or some other closely related universe tie-in but it turns out to be a direct sequel. This might just be hinted at, or expressed outright near the end. See also Broad Strokes.

Examples:


Anime & Manga

  • Suzumiya Haruhi. The internet exploded after new episodes suddenly starting airing without any previous announcement. Well they did make an announcement, they said it was a rerun of the first season (which is technically true, as the new episodes were shown chronologically with the old ones).
  • Rebuild of Evangelion. Maybe.
  • Rozen Maiden Tale started out as a What If manga that shows what would happen if Jun decided not to wind. Then the story transitioned into where the original continuity (which was Cut Short in the original manga) left off...

Film

  • Alice in Wonderland, the movie, isn't too stealthy about it since Alice is older, but she starts off her adventure in nearly the same way as the original book. Then, while Alice is struggling with changing size, the Dodo remarks, "You'd think she'd remember all of this from the first time."
  • The 2009 Star Trek film functions as both this and a reboot, with Spock having arrived from the "original" timeline to provide some continuity.
  • Catwoman is a stealth sequel to the Batman films, notably, Batman Returns. Her origin is identical to the one played by Michelle Pfeiffer, the Catwoman persona is said to be a Legacy Character, and in the pictures of former "Catwomen", we see Michelle Pfeiffer's original character.
    • This is debatable though, considering Michelle Pfeiffer's character does not have actual superpowers, as opposed to Halle Berry's character.
  • The Ridley Scott film Prometheus is a stealth prequel to Alien.
    • Similarly, the first Alien vs. Predator movie could be seen as a prequel to the Alien series proper. It starts out looking like a mindless slash-em-up crossover, but it goes on to explain the origin of the Xenomorph species as well as some details about The Company's genesis.
  • Basement Jack is a loose sequel to Evilution, the two film featuring the same old apartment building and creepy manager and his equally creepy display room of murderous artifacts, which he adds more weapons to at the end of both films (a vial of alien virus in Evilution, and the eponymous character's sword in Basement Jack).
  • At the end of Final Destination 5 two of the remaining survivors die in Flight 180, revealing the film to be a prequel to the first film.
  • Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom takes place before Raiders of the Lost Ark, and it's only indicated by the date at the beginning of the film.
  • The Good the Bad And The Ugly takes place before the first two movies in the Dollars Trilogy.
  • Nanny McPhee and the Big Bang. The only connection to the first movie is revealed at the very end, when a doddering old lady is revealed to be the baby of the first family all grown up.
  • The Twenty One Jump Street film is actually a sequel to the original TV series. It also induces Sudden Sequel Death Syndrome on Hanson and Penhall.

Interactive Fiction

  • Planetfall has a few references to Infocom's previous sci-fi work Starcross that imply that it is set within the same universe several centuries later.
  • Narcolepsy by Adam Cadre isn't advertised as a sequel to Adam Cadre's previous work I-0, but it isn't long before you run across a place mentioned in the prior game. Also, I-0's protagonist Tracy Valencia makes a somewhat in-joky cameo.
  • Dinner with Andre by Liza Daly has a twist ending where the PC turns out to be the same character from Liza's previous IF work Bloodline several years later and sees someone she knows from that time.
  • Masquerade by Kathleen Fischer has a number of endings, one of them causing the game to become a prequel to her other work, The Cove.

Literature

  • If you did not pay attention, you may not have noticed that the elder and protagonist in Gathering Blue are the protagonist and baby from The Giver.

Live Action TV

Video Games

  • Shadow Hearts wasn't advertised as a sequel to Koudelka, and indeed some people still claim that they don't have any real story links, despite the recurring theme of the Emigre Document, the villain impersonating a character from Koudelka, the real version of that character turning up later, Koudelka herself playing a significant role, Koudelka's son being a party member, and the last chapter of Shadow Hearts taking place in the monastery Koudelka was set in.
  • Shadow of the Colossus was a Prequel to Ico, but you'd never realize until the very end. And even then you might not realize unless you were a big fan of Ico.
  • Vagrant Story was a sequel to Final Fantasy Tactics, although this wasn't apparent until the whole Ivalice Alliance was fleshed out with more games.
  • Captain Commando is a futuristic sequel to Final Fight. The game is set in Metro City, Ginzu the Ninja is Guy's future successor in the ways of the Bushin school, and a bust of Mike Haggar can be obtained as a power-up.
  • Dragon Quest III looks like a Continuity Reboot, but late in the game you find yourself on a very familiar world map, and the ending names you as the famed ancestor of the first two games' heroes.
    • Dragon Quest VI has thematic links to the other "Zenithian Trilogy" games (IV and V), but there are hints that it's actually a prequel.
  • Xenosaga may or may not be a prequel to Xenogears. Likewise, Xenoblade being a sequel to both. While Blade doesn't have much in common with the other two apart from some themes and design elements, and takes place in a different universe Saga's ending involves the main characters breaking the cycle of Eternal Recurrence, where the universe is constantly dying and being brought back exactly the same, while in Blade it's a major plot point that there was a completely different universe before the one the characters live in was born, suggesting that the actions of Shion and friends allowed the Blade-verse to be born after their own world ended.

Web Comics

  • For quite a long time, Black Ops Civil Service webcomic Skin Horse by Jeff Wells and Shaenon Garrity looked to be the spiritual successor to Garrity's earlier Mad Science comic Narbonic, but readers suspected it was actually a sequel. It was three and a half years before the connection was officially made.
    • The actual degree of continued story is pretty marginal, but Word of God confirms the connection was planned from the beginning and not just a Sure Why Not.