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Tales of Destiny

• Draco in Leather Pants: A hotly-contested example in Leon: it's unanimous that he's a complete dick with sympathetic reasons for what he's doing, but fans are divided on just how many squishy points this gets him.
  • Averted in the remake, where most of the Jerkass was dropped, and he comes off as more of a Jerk with a Heart of Gold or Jerkass Facade.
• Ensemble Darkhorse: Leon Magnus constantly tops favourite Tales series character polls in Japan, returns in the sequel as Judas, and has a tendency to appear as a major player in other games like Namco X Capcom. The remake even gave players an option to use him as the main character. But he still dies the same way.)
  • Leon's ascendancy seems to have been eclipsed by Yuri-Freaking-Lowell, but considering Judas ranked as the 29th most popular character, were one to combine the number of votes Leon and Judas each gathered, Leon is still the most popular Tales character.
  • Kongman is a rather hilarious example, actually. He's a very minor optional character in the original, but his portrayal in the remake vaulted him into popularity. People love to hate him, and Namco's bonus DVD's waste no effort in ripping the piss out of him.
  • Lilith's quite popular, considering she's a minor character.
• Game Breaker: Leon is arguably the strongest character in the ToD remake. He may have crappy defense and low HP, but once powered up, he can kill things before they even have a chance to lay a finger on him. Let's see...
  • Combine Chaltier with his Chaser ability that grants extra CC points, and if you get critical damage, you can kill any normal monster with a single combo. Oh, and Leon has the highest critical damage rate.
  • Geneijin is more spammable than spam itself.
  • Then there's "Marian...". Sword Artes typically hit nearby enemies or far away ones. With this one you can hit enemies that are close and far away by creating a damaging force field and firing a Sword Beam. Oh, and by the way, Leon is immune to damage while he's using it.
  • Arte extensions. You know how a character can normally only have 4 artes equipped at once? Yeah, about that...
  • Demon Lance Zero is also more spammable than spam itself. It also doubles as a self buff that gives 5 Penetrate with each use (can't be staggered for the next 5 hits).
  • But he dies long before we even get to the Big Bad! How do we fix this? That's where the Narikiri Dolls come in, a set of items that allow you to give any character the skills, balance, and sprite of any of their teammates. Though you can't get them until very late in the game, Leon's is the cheapest, and you can get multiples of each doll. Which means you can have a battle party of 4 Leons. Have fun.
  • For a change of pace, how about Johnny/Karyl's ultra-cheap Maware Rondo?
• I Knew It!: Leon and Rutee are siblings!
• It Was His Sled: Leon betrays the party and dies.
• Memetic Badass: Leon. He's a Deadpan Snarking Game Breaking Bishounen Ensemble Darkhorse with an awesome flashy move set and was Too Cool to Live. It was bound to happen.
• Memetic Molester: Hugo is quite possibly the single best example in the series, no thanks to this bit of Memetic Mutation.
• Memetic Mutation: Miktran/Kronos's original final form is a GIANT STEAK!
  • His remake one is an Eldritch Abomination.
• Moral Event Horizon: Miktran, whilst possessing Hugo, officially crosses the line when he sends Leon to fight Stahn and the others in the mine, resulting in Leon's death.
• Motive Decay: Big Bad Miktran. In the original game, he was a Well-Intentioned Extremist (like most Tales (series) villains are) in that he wanted to revive his people and genuinely believed that the Aetherians were in the right, as the Erthers started the War Between Heaven and Earth. In the remake, this motive has been replaced by simple megalomania.
• Too Cool to Live: Leon.
• The Scrappy: Rutee
• The Woobie: Philia invokes this from time to time.

Tales of Destiny 2

• Complete Monster: Barbatos ranks up there along with the likes of Terumi Yuuki as an utterly unabashed gigantic evil bastard who manages to be hilarious in the same time, making him an Ensemble Darkhorse as well.
• Designated Villain: It's hard to deny that Fortuna wants to make a better world for people, or that Kyle wasn't trying to see the good in her argument, even if he didn't have to agree with it. On the other hand, Fortuna's not very sympathetic, and saying humans are helpless and that history should be destroyed isn't a very good approach to the discussion.
• Ensemble Darkhorse: Barbatos is basically the Ensemble Darkhorse for all Tales villains.
  • Nanaly Fletch may also be a minor version of this, appearing/announced for spinoff games first before Kyle even appears/get announced. She even appeared overseas first out of all the cast. (She appeared as a cameo boss in Tales of the Abyss.)
• Game Breaker - Harold's Crazy Comet spell and its extensions are very powerful. In To D 2, magic heavily outweighs physical attacks in terms of damage. Yeah.
• I Knew It!: Judas is Leon!
• It Was His Sled: The fact that it is obviously Leon beneath that mask has been lampshaded and parodied quite a bit. Here are a few examples.
  • Heck, some dramas treat this as a Paper-Thin Disguise. one good one was when Stahn saw Leon (as Judas) and greeted him as Leon.
• Mary Sue / Purity Sue: Reala dominates the plot and can do no wrong - basically the definition of a Mary Sue. While a handful of Tales heroines do have some Mary Sue traits, they're usually targets of Deconstruction that get substantial Character Development before the credits roll. Reala, however, plays them all totally straight.
• That One Boss: Damn you, your freezing aura and your 100% deflect ability, Elraine. You only really have Loni for healing and it doesn't help that his AI tends to run in and get knocked back. Any time you close in on her, she'll freeze your combos dead on track.
  • Barbatos, the second and third time you fight him. Especially frustrating in the latter, because at around half-health he starts countering any offensive spells with one of his own, which is the only really effective way to damage bosses in the game.
• They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character: Reala falls into this category as well, and even spreads it to other characters. She's a Sue without any deconstrucion, and the plot focuses on her so much, the other characters suffer for it.
• Uncanny Valley: Reala is a stick figure. Even with this game's art style, she looks weird. Her dress also makes her legs look much longer than they actually are and her torso look much smaller than it should be.