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[[Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles|The third game in the series]], which was released on both [[DS]] and [[Wii]]. Unfortunately, the Wii version was a straight port of the DS version, which lead to half the screen being taken up by the map. Gameplay is very similar to [[Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles Ring of Fates (Video Game)|Ring Of Fates]] with only slight differences.
[[Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles|The third game in the series]], which was released on both [[DS]] and [[Wii]]. Unfortunately, the Wii version was a straight port of the DS version, which lead to half the screen being taken up by the map. Gameplay is very similar to ''[[Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates|Ring Of Fates]]'' with only slight differences.


''Echoes of Time'' is more of a spiritual successor to the first game than ''Ring of Fates'', as you create the main character and their teammates, selecting the name, race, and gender. The story starts with your character going through their coming-of-age ceremony in your little secluded forest village under the blessing of a gigantic crystal, when a young girl in your village gets Crystal Sickness. The village doesn't have a cure for this rare disease, so you have to go to town to get it. But everyone in town says that your village shouldn't exist...
''Echoes of Time'' is more of a spiritual successor to the first game than ''Ring of Fates'', as you create the main character and their teammates, selecting the name, race and gender. The story starts with your character going through their coming-of-age ceremony in your little secluded forest village under the blessing of a gigantic crystal, when a young girl in your village gets Crystal Sickness. The village doesn't have a cure for this rare disease, so you have to go to town to get it. But everyone in town says that your village shouldn't exist...


There is also an extensive multiplayer mode, which unlike ''Ring of Fates'', can be played over the Nintendo WFC in addition to the local wireless. You can play with friends or join a party of random strangers, both in your country and worldwide.
There is also an extensive multiplayer mode, which unlike ''Ring of Fates'', can be played over the Nintendo WFC in addition to the local wireless. You can play with friends or join a party of random strangers, both in your country and worldwide.

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=== This game provides examples of: ===
* [[Action RPG]]
* [[Action RPG]]
* [[Aliens Steal Cattle]]
* [[Aliens Steal Cattle]]
* [[Applied Phlebotinum]]: The crystal fragments. [[Plot Coupon|Collect them all!]]
* [[Applied Phlebotinum]]: The crystal fragments. [[Plot Coupon|Collect them all!]]
* [[The Archer]]: Selkies
* [[The Archer]]: Selkies.
* [[Bittersweet Ending]]: {{spoiler|The world is saved, and the hero returns home to the village. Entering the forest where the pond with the Crystal Core once was, the hero angrily throws the crystal received from Sherlotta at the beginning of the game into the water.}} In the post game, {{spoiler|returning there shows that the crystal has become a new Crystal Core,}} and talking to Norsy reveals {{spoiler|the cat Sherlotta possessed is still acting like her, suggesting she may be alive after all}}.
* [[Bittersweet Ending]]: {{spoiler|The world is saved, and the hero returns home to the village. Entering the forest where the pond with the Crystal Core once was, the hero angrily throws the crystal received from Sherlotta at the beginning of the game into the water}}. In the post game, {{spoiler|returning there shows that the crystal has become a new Crystal Core}}, and talking to Norsy reveals {{spoiler|the cat Sherlotta possessed is still acting like her, suggesting she may be alive after all}}.
* [[Boss Rush]]: An interesting variation where you can fight all the bosses of the ''previous'' game, and scaled up to be more of a challenge at that. A series of quests you can take play the trope straight, letting you challenge four, eight, or all of the normal bosses in the game in short order.
* [[Boss Rush]]: An interesting variation where you can fight all the bosses of the ''previous'' game, and scaled up to be more of a challenge at that. A series of quests you can take play the trope straight, letting you challenge four, eight, or all of the normal bosses in the game in short order.
* [[But Thou Must]]: Lampshaded by Norsy, regarding Sherlotta's tail. She asks if you agree with her that a person having a tail is unusual. You get one answer- "Not really." Norsy protests, saying that [[No Fourth Wall|you only got one answer]] and that you should get 3. Then she asks you again if having a tail is unusual. You then get three answers... "Why?" "Nope," and "Seems normal to me."
* [[But Thou Must!]]: Lampshaded by Norsy, regarding Sherlotta's tail. She asks if you agree with her that a person having a tail is unusual. You get one answer- "Not really." Norsy protests, saying that [[No Fourth Wall|you only got one answer]] and that you should get 3. Then she asks you again if having a tail is unusual. You then get three answers... "Why?", "Nope" and "Seems normal to me".
* [[Butt Monkey]]: The poor crystal activation device that Sherlotta threatens, hints at threatening, abuses, hurls at monsters, slams with excessive force into the ruins, abandons... admittedly, the device did try to kill the hero at first, which may be why [[Mama Bear|Sherlotta is none too gentle]].
* [[Butt Monkey]]: The poor crystal activation device that Sherlotta threatens, hints at threatening, abuses, hurls at monsters, slams with excessive force into the ruins, abandons... admittedly, the device did try to kill the hero at first, which may be why [[Mama Bear|Sherlotta is none too gentle]].
{{quote| "Please! I'M A PRECISION INSTRUMENT!"}}
{{quote|"Please! I'M A PRECISION INSTRUMENT!"}}
* [[Catgirl]]: Sherlotta, {{spoiler|because she is actually possessing the body of a cat, her true body comatose}}.
* [[Catgirl]]: Sherlotta {{spoiler|because she is actually possessing the body of a cat, her true body comatose}}.
* [[Charged Attack]]: Every class will get a charged attack for their weapons of choice, and at the high levels, an even stronger charged attack.
* [[Charged Attack]]: Every class will get a charged attack for their weapons of choice, and at the high levels, an even stronger charged attack.
* [[Combination Attack]]: Magic fusion returns, but it's much simpler this time.
* [[Combination Attack]]: Magic fusion returns, but it's much simpler this time.
* [[Continuity Nod]]: Artemicion, a moogle from the first game, makes an appearance.
* [[Continuity Nod]]: Artemicion, a moogle from the first game, makes an appearance.
* [[Cool Big Sis]]: Sherlotta has the personality when she starts traveling with the hero.
* [[Cool Big Sis]]: Sherlotta has the personality when she starts traveling with the hero.
* [[Doomed Hometown]]: The hero's town {{spoiler|was in fact destroyed thousands of years ago, Sherlotta and the spirits of the deceased citizens of the town built a new one so that the hero could grow up in a normal life}}.
* [[Doomed Hometown]]: The hero's town {{spoiler|was in fact destroyed thousands of years ago, Sherlotta and the spirits of the deceased citizens of the town built a new one so that the hero could grow up in a normal life}}.
* [[Double Jump]]: Selkies
* [[Double Jump]]: Selkies.
* [[Figure It Out Yourself]]: The villagers tell you that you have to find everything out on your own.
* [[Figure It Out Yourself]]: The villagers tell you that you have to find everything out on your own.
* [[Foreshadowing]]: Plenty. For example...
* [[Foreshadowing]]: Plenty. For example...
{{quote| Eryll: "The Crystal Core is peaceful and loving and kind."<br />
{{quote|Eryll: "The Crystal Core is peaceful and loving and kind."
Eryll: "{{spoiler|*giggle* Kinda like you, Sherlotta.}}" }}
Eryll: {{spoiler|*giggle* "Kinda like you, Sherlotta}}."}}
* [[Funetik Aksent]]: Larkeicus has a (thankfully) very slight German accent, changing his Ws to Vs.
* [[Funetik Aksent]]: Larkeicus has a (thankfully) very slight German accent, changing his Ws to Vs.
* {{spoiler|[[Hoist By His Own Petard]]: If [[Big Bad|Larkecius]] hadn't built his tower in order to prevent the destruction of the crystals, said destruction would never have occurred in the fist place.}}
* {{spoiler|[[Hoist by His Own Petard]]: If [[Big Bad|Larkecius]] hadn't built his tower in order to prevent the destruction of the crystals, said destruction would never have occurred in the fist place}}.
* [[Infinity Plus One Sword]]: Every class gets at least one (Lilties and Selkies get two since they have mastery in two types of weapons each). They require a significant amount of materials to craft (one item is a super rare drop from the secret boss you can challenge in the post game), and are actually weaker than most weapons until you level them up to Level 30, but when you do, they are the strongest weapons in the game, and have three empty customization slots, meaning they can be powered up even further.
* [[Improbable Weapon User]]: Selkies use paddles, in some cases directly taken from a boat.
* [[Improbable Weapon User]]: Selkies use paddles, in some cases directly taken from a boat.
** Yukes technically only use Staves, but some Staves look like Bells or Books.
** Yukes technically only use Staves, but some Staves look like Bells or Books.
* [[Infinity+1 Sword]]: Every class gets at least one (Lilties and Selkies get two since they have mastery in two types of weapons each). They require a significant amount of materials to craft (one item is a super rare drop from the secret boss you can challenge in the post game), and are actually weaker than most weapons until you level them up to Level 30, but when you do, they are the strongest weapons in the game, and have three empty customization slots, meaning they can be powered up even further.
* [[Les Yay]]: You can save one of the town girls from being hit on by letting her pretend she's dating you instead. Even if you're playing as a girl. The guy who was hitting on her points this out. The girl he was hitting on says she knows.
* [[Mama Bear]]: Sherlotta, over the hero.
* [[Mama Bear]]: Sherlotta, over the hero.
* [[Multi Platform]]: Available for the Wii and DS. Both versions are the ''exact same game'', to the point where the Wii version uses a two screen interface. While it means the two versions can play with each other, it's probably easier to just stick with the DS version. The only actual difference is that the Wii version has higher-polycount models, but since you're still playing on a small screen its hard to notice.
* [[Multi Platform]]: Available for the Wii and DS. Both versions are the ''exact same game'', to the point where the Wii version uses a two screen interface. While it means the two versions can play with each other, it's probably easier to just stick with the DS version. The only actual difference is that the Wii version has higher-polycount models, but since you're still playing on a small screen, its hard to notice.
* [[Mythology Gag]]: A little over half of the outfits you can craft are based off of the many [[Job System|Jobs]] that appeared in previous Final Fantasy games, from the iconic Black and White Mages to the slightly more obscure Scholar and Magic Knight. One of the highest level Male outfits is an Onion Knight outfit.
* [[Mythology Gag]]: A little over half of the outfits you can craft are based off of the many [[Job System|Jobs]] that appeared in previous ''Final Fantasy'' games, from the iconic Black and White Mages to the slightly more obscure Scholar and Magic Knight. One of the highest level Male outfits is an Onion Knight outfit.
** Some of them are [[Shout Out|shout outs]] to specific characters. The male versions of the Paladin Armor and Monk Gi are basically [[Final Fantasy IV|Cecil and Yang]].
** Some of them are [[Shout-Out|shout outs]] to specific characters. The male versions of the Paladin Armor and Monk Gi are basically [[Final Fantasy IV|Cecil and Yang]].
** Sticking to Mythology within the Crystal Chronicles series of games, after beating the main game, you are granted access to {{spoiler|River Belle Path, the first level of the very first Crystal Chronicles game, complete with health draining Miasma.}}
** Sticking to Mythology within the ''Crystal Chronicles'' series of games, after beating the main game, you are granted access to {{spoiler|River Belle Path, the first level of the very first ''Crystal Chronicles'' game, complete with health draining Miasma}}.
** One uncommon enemy is a ghost that mimics Meeth's abilities from the previous game.
** One uncommon enemy is a ghost that mimics Meeth's abilities from the previous game.
** The best Clavat armor is {{spoiler|[[Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles Crystal Bearers|Layle's jacket and goggles]] }}, in a weird, roundabout call forward (the game the bonus items was based on was in development since the first Crystal Chronicles game came out).
** The best Clavat armor is {{spoiler|[[Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles Crystal Bearers|Layle's jacket and goggles]]}}, in a weird, roundabout call forward (the game the bonus items was based on was in development since the first ''Crystal Chronicles'' game came out).
* [[New Game Plus]]: Beating the game unlocks "Start+", which is where you can start a new game but with the same characters and items. It also unlocks Hard Mode, which is the same as Normal Mode but where all the monsters jump about 50 levels, as well as about twice as many accessible items (shops continue to add to their inventory, quest rewards change, and monsters drop some new items). Beating ''that'' unlocks Very Hard Mode, which just makes the monster levels jump again but with very few extra items available.
* [[New Game+]]: Beating the game unlocks "Start+", which is where you can start a new game but with the same characters and items. It also unlocks Hard Mode, which is the same as Normal Mode, but where all the monsters jump about 50 levels, as well as about twice as many accessible items (shops continue to add to their inventory, quest rewards change, and monsters drop some new items). Beating ''that'' unlocks Very Hard Mode, which just makes the monster levels jump again but with very few extra items available.
* [[No Fourth Wall]]: One of the mercenaries for hire will only hire you if you meet his requirements. Said requirements are based on how many hours you've spent playing the game (he's got 100 hours). Another mercenary knows she's Lv.99, and mentions it. The requirement for hiring her is playing on Very Hard mode... which is not so coincidentally her favourite mode. Oh, and see [[But Thou Must]] above. Also, your character knows about the World Map. Sherlotta is confused when you mention it while talking to her.
* [[No Fourth Wall]]: One of the mercenaries for hire will only hire you if you meet his requirements. Said requirements are based on how many hours you've spent playing the game (he's got 100 hours). Another mercenary knows she's Lv.99, and mentions it. The requirement for hiring her is playing on Very Hard mode... which is not so coincidentally her favourite mode. Oh, and see [[But Thou Must!]] above. Also, your character knows about the World Map. Sherlotta is confused when you mention it while talking to her.
* [[Obviously Evil]]: Larkeicus, c'mon.
* [[Obviously Evil]]: Larkeicus, c'mon.
* [[One Winged Angel]]: The final boss's second form is one. Said second form can take it a half step further by summoning a crystal body and temporarily inhabiting it, but this body can be destroyed, sending him back to his previous form and stunning him slightly.
* [[One-Winged Angel]]: The final boss's second form is one. Said second form can take it a half step further by summoning a crystal body and temporarily inhabiting it, but this body can be destroyed, sending him back to his previous form and stunning him slightly.
* [[Palette Swap]]: All the sprites (but the Clavat/Yuke girl) are from the previous game.
* [[Palette Swap]]: All the sprites (but the Clavat/Yuke girl) are from the previous game.
** Unless you're playing as a Yuke, if you talk to Archimedon, he'll change your character's hair color. You can also do this with the other characters you've created to join in your adventure.
** Unless you're playing as a Yuke, if you talk to Archimedon, he'll change your character's hair color. You can also do this with the other characters you've created to join in your adventure.
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* [[Parental Substitute]]: Most of the adults in the village for the hero, but especially Sherlotta.
* [[Parental Substitute]]: Most of the adults in the village for the hero, but especially Sherlotta.
* [[Plot Coupon]]: There's quite a few of them.
* [[Plot Coupon]]: There's quite a few of them.
** {{spoiler|The Crystal Core shards.}}
** {{spoiler|The Crystal Core shards}}.
* [[Punny Name]]: Veriaulde, the very old Yuke.
* [[Punny Name]]: Veriaulde, the very old Yuke.
* [[Really Seven Hundred Years Old]]: {{spoiler|Sherlotta}}. Also, {{spoiler|Everyone else. In the village, anyway.}}
* [[Really Seven Hundred Years Old]]: {{spoiler|Sherlotta}}. Also, {{spoiler|everyone else. In the village, anyway}}.
* [[Sentient Phlebotinum]]: The crystal-finding artifact, not that she's very sinister once you've defeated her.
* [[Sentient Phlebotinum]]: The crystal-finding artifact, not that she's very sinister once you've defeated her.
* [[Timed Mission]]: Multiplayer mode allows you to take on side missions for more experience and money. All of these have time limits and span multiple levels. The goal is to finish each one as quickly as possible.
* [[Timed Mission]]: Multiplayer mode allows you to take on side missions for more experience and money. All of these have time limits and span multiple levels. The goal is to finish each one as quickly as possible.
* [[You Can't Fight Fate]]: Larkeicus realizes that the {{spoiler|Crystals disappeared in the past because of something that happened in the future. After figuring out where the event happens, he builds a massive tower in order to reach that point, but as Sherlotta points out, if he didn't build the tower in the first place, nothing could have happened up there}}.
* [[You Can't Fight Fate]]: Larkeicus realizes that the {{spoiler|Crystals disappeared in the past because of something that happened in the future. After figuring out where the event happens, he builds a massive tower in order to reach that point, but as Sherlotta points out, if he didn't build the tower in the first place, nothing could have happened up there}}.


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Latest revision as of 16:02, 5 May 2018

The third game in the series, which was released on both DS and Wii. Unfortunately, the Wii version was a straight port of the DS version, which lead to half the screen being taken up by the map. Gameplay is very similar to Ring Of Fates with only slight differences.

Echoes of Time is more of a spiritual successor to the first game than Ring of Fates, as you create the main character and their teammates, selecting the name, race and gender. The story starts with your character going through their coming-of-age ceremony in your little secluded forest village under the blessing of a gigantic crystal, when a young girl in your village gets Crystal Sickness. The village doesn't have a cure for this rare disease, so you have to go to town to get it. But everyone in town says that your village shouldn't exist...

There is also an extensive multiplayer mode, which unlike Ring of Fates, can be played over the Nintendo WFC in addition to the local wireless. You can play with friends or join a party of random strangers, both in your country and worldwide.

Tropes used in Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time include:
  • Action RPG
  • Aliens Steal Cattle
  • Applied Phlebotinum: The crystal fragments. Collect them all!
  • The Archer: Selkies.
  • Bittersweet Ending: The world is saved, and the hero returns home to the village. Entering the forest where the pond with the Crystal Core once was, the hero angrily throws the crystal received from Sherlotta at the beginning of the game into the water. In the post game, returning there shows that the crystal has become a new Crystal Core, and talking to Norsy reveals the cat Sherlotta possessed is still acting like her, suggesting she may be alive after all.
  • Boss Rush: An interesting variation where you can fight all the bosses of the previous game, and scaled up to be more of a challenge at that. A series of quests you can take play the trope straight, letting you challenge four, eight, or all of the normal bosses in the game in short order.
  • But Thou Must!: Lampshaded by Norsy, regarding Sherlotta's tail. She asks if you agree with her that a person having a tail is unusual. You get one answer- "Not really." Norsy protests, saying that you only got one answer and that you should get 3. Then she asks you again if having a tail is unusual. You then get three answers... "Why?", "Nope" and "Seems normal to me".
  • Butt Monkey: The poor crystal activation device that Sherlotta threatens, hints at threatening, abuses, hurls at monsters, slams with excessive force into the ruins, abandons... admittedly, the device did try to kill the hero at first, which may be why Sherlotta is none too gentle.

"Please! I'M A PRECISION INSTRUMENT!"

  • Catgirl: Sherlotta because she is actually possessing the body of a cat, her true body comatose.
  • Charged Attack: Every class will get a charged attack for their weapons of choice, and at the high levels, an even stronger charged attack.
  • Combination Attack: Magic fusion returns, but it's much simpler this time.
  • Continuity Nod: Artemicion, a moogle from the first game, makes an appearance.
  • Cool Big Sis: Sherlotta has the personality when she starts traveling with the hero.
  • Doomed Hometown: The hero's town was in fact destroyed thousands of years ago, Sherlotta and the spirits of the deceased citizens of the town built a new one so that the hero could grow up in a normal life.
  • Double Jump: Selkies.
  • Figure It Out Yourself: The villagers tell you that you have to find everything out on your own.
  • Foreshadowing: Plenty. For example...

Eryll: "The Crystal Core is peaceful and loving and kind."
Eryll: *giggle* "Kinda like you, Sherlotta."

  • Funetik Aksent: Larkeicus has a (thankfully) very slight German accent, changing his Ws to Vs.
  • Hoist by His Own Petard: If Larkecius hadn't built his tower in order to prevent the destruction of the crystals, said destruction would never have occurred in the fist place.
  • Improbable Weapon User: Selkies use paddles, in some cases directly taken from a boat.
    • Yukes technically only use Staves, but some Staves look like Bells or Books.
  • Infinity+1 Sword: Every class gets at least one (Lilties and Selkies get two since they have mastery in two types of weapons each). They require a significant amount of materials to craft (one item is a super rare drop from the secret boss you can challenge in the post game), and are actually weaker than most weapons until you level them up to Level 30, but when you do, they are the strongest weapons in the game, and have three empty customization slots, meaning they can be powered up even further.
  • Mama Bear: Sherlotta, over the hero.
  • Multi Platform: Available for the Wii and DS. Both versions are the exact same game, to the point where the Wii version uses a two screen interface. While it means the two versions can play with each other, it's probably easier to just stick with the DS version. The only actual difference is that the Wii version has higher-polycount models, but since you're still playing on a small screen, its hard to notice.
  • Mythology Gag: A little over half of the outfits you can craft are based off of the many Jobs that appeared in previous Final Fantasy games, from the iconic Black and White Mages to the slightly more obscure Scholar and Magic Knight. One of the highest level Male outfits is an Onion Knight outfit.
    • Some of them are shout outs to specific characters. The male versions of the Paladin Armor and Monk Gi are basically Cecil and Yang.
    • Sticking to Mythology within the Crystal Chronicles series of games, after beating the main game, you are granted access to River Belle Path, the first level of the very first Crystal Chronicles game, complete with health draining Miasma.
    • One uncommon enemy is a ghost that mimics Meeth's abilities from the previous game.
    • The best Clavat armor is Layle's jacket and goggles, in a weird, roundabout call forward (the game the bonus items was based on was in development since the first Crystal Chronicles game came out).
  • New Game+: Beating the game unlocks "Start+", which is where you can start a new game but with the same characters and items. It also unlocks Hard Mode, which is the same as Normal Mode, but where all the monsters jump about 50 levels, as well as about twice as many accessible items (shops continue to add to their inventory, quest rewards change, and monsters drop some new items). Beating that unlocks Very Hard Mode, which just makes the monster levels jump again but with very few extra items available.
  • No Fourth Wall: One of the mercenaries for hire will only hire you if you meet his requirements. Said requirements are based on how many hours you've spent playing the game (he's got 100 hours). Another mercenary knows she's Lv.99, and mentions it. The requirement for hiring her is playing on Very Hard mode... which is not so coincidentally her favourite mode. Oh, and see But Thou Must! above. Also, your character knows about the World Map. Sherlotta is confused when you mention it while talking to her.
  • Obviously Evil: Larkeicus, c'mon.
  • One-Winged Angel: The final boss's second form is one. Said second form can take it a half step further by summoning a crystal body and temporarily inhabiting it, but this body can be destroyed, sending him back to his previous form and stunning him slightly.
  • Palette Swap: All the sprites (but the Clavat/Yuke girl) are from the previous game.
    • Unless you're playing as a Yuke, if you talk to Archimedon, he'll change your character's hair color. You can also do this with the other characters you've created to join in your adventure.
    • Nearly all of the monsters have at least one palette-swapped version. As does a(n admittedly small) number of armour.
  • Parental Substitute: Most of the adults in the village for the hero, but especially Sherlotta.
  • Plot Coupon: There's quite a few of them.
    • The Crystal Core shards.
  • Punny Name: Veriaulde, the very old Yuke.
  • Really Seven Hundred Years Old: Sherlotta. Also, everyone else. In the village, anyway.
  • Sentient Phlebotinum: The crystal-finding artifact, not that she's very sinister once you've defeated her.
  • Timed Mission: Multiplayer mode allows you to take on side missions for more experience and money. All of these have time limits and span multiple levels. The goal is to finish each one as quickly as possible.
  • You Can't Fight Fate: Larkeicus realizes that the Crystals disappeared in the past because of something that happened in the future. After figuring out where the event happens, he builds a massive tower in order to reach that point, but as Sherlotta points out, if he didn't build the tower in the first place, nothing could have happened up there.