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{{quote|''"If [the reavers] take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins into their clothing. And, if we're very, very lucky, they'll do it [[Trope Namer|in that order]]."''|'''Zoe Washburn''', ''[[Firefly]]''}}
{{quote|''"If [the reavers] take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins into their clothing. And, if we're very, very lucky, they'll do it [[Trope Namer|in that order]]."''
|'''Zoe Washburn'''|''[[Firefly]]''}}


A common tag on to threats of sexual violence, mutilation and death, the phrase "in that order" works by implication of bizarre forms of punishment achievable by switching the order around. It can be used in a serious context to raise a scary threat to levels of [[Squick]] or in a comedic context to just make the acts seem ridiculous.
A common tag on to threats of sexual violence, mutilation and death, the phrase "in that order" works by implication of bizarre forms of punishment achievable by switching the order around. It can be used in a serious context to raise a scary threat to levels of [[Squick]] or in a comedic context to just make the acts seem ridiculous.
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It is also very common to simply imply the trope by stressing the word of ordering. God bless italics. Note to future editors: Description ''then'' examples.
It is also very common to simply imply the trope by stressing the word of ordering. God bless italics. Note to future editors: Description ''then'' examples.
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== Anime and Manga ==
== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==
* In the [[Adaptation Displacement|oft-forgotten]] manga version of ''[[Excel Saga (manga)|Excel Saga]]'', Excel at one point tells Hyatt, "You were in a tight spot back there, Ha-Chan! If I hadn't jumped in, you would a' been buried... then murdered... then defiled!" to which Hyatt can only respond, "In exactly that order?"
* In the [[Adaptation Displacement|oft-forgotten]] manga version of ''[[Excel Saga (manga)|Excel Saga]]'', Excel at one point tells Hyatt, "You were in a tight spot back there, Ha-Chan! If I hadn't jumped in, you would'a been buried... then murdered... then defiled!" to which Hyatt can only respond, "In exactly that order?"


== Comics ==
== [[Film]] ==
* In ''[[Dead Man]]'' the character Cole Wilson was known to have killed, fucked, and ate his parents. In that order.
* The old [[Mad]] magazine sendup of "Conquering the Planet of the Apes", as the intelligent ape addresses his army:
{{quote|''All right! If we're going to win against the humans you need to listen up and stop embarrassing me! For example, when I tell you to put on your shoes and socks, I '''don't''' mean in that order!''}}

== Film ==
* In ''Dead Man'' the character Cole Wilson was known to have killed, fucked, and ate his parents. In that order.
* From the original ''[[Planet of the Apes]]'': "If they catch you, they will dissect you. And kill you. In that order."
* From the original ''[[Planet of the Apes]]'': "If they catch you, they will dissect you. And kill you. In that order."
** "Vivisection" is the standard word for doing that to a still-living thing.
** "Vivisection" is the standard word for doing that to a still-living thing.
* The first movie of Brazilian comedy group Casseta & Planeta: "Go out with your hands up and suicide! Not necessarily in that order!" (two character react with "They got us! We're FUBAR!" "Not necessarily in that order!")
* The first movie{{context|C'mon, give us a name.}} of Brazilian comedy group Casseta & Planeta: "Go out with your hands up and suicide! Not necessarily in that order!" (two character react with "They got us! We're FUBAR!" "Not necessarily in that order!")
* In ''[[Money Train]]'', Wesley Snipes' and Woody Harrelson's characters get chewed out by their [[Bad Boss|unhealthily aggressive supervisor]] for misconduct. Patterson (the supervisor) claims that if they screw up again, he's going to "fuck them dead". W & W then discuss and try to figure out if he meant fucking them before, or after they're dead. They come to the conclusion that "[[A Worldwide Punomenon|Either way it's a pain in the ass]]". Later in the film, Wesley makes a point that they need to stay one step ahead of "That necrophiliac Patterson".
* In ''[[Money Train]]'', Wesley Snipes' and Woody Harrelson's characters get chewed out by their [[Bad Boss|unhealthily aggressive supervisor]] for misconduct. Patterson (the supervisor) claims that if they screw up again, he's going to "fuck them dead". They then discuss and try to figure out if he meant fucking them before, or after they're dead. They come to the conclusion that "[[A Worldwide Punomenon|Either way it's a pain in the ass]]". Later in the film, Wesley makes a point that they need to stay one step ahead of "That necrophiliac Patterson".
* In [[The Silence of the Lambs|Hannibal]] this is referenced in the following exchange regarding Hannibal's interest in Special Agent Clarice Starling:
* In ''[[The Silence of the Lambs|Hannibal]]'' this is referenced in the following exchange regarding Hannibal's interest in Special Agent Clarice Starling:
{{quote|'''Mason Verger:''' "So what do ya think, Cordell? Does Lecter want to fuck her or kill her or eat her alive?"
{{quote|'''Mason Verger:''' "So what do ya think, Cordell? Does Lecter want to fuck her or kill her or eat her alive?"
'''Cordell:''' "Probably all three, though I wouldn't want to predict in what order." }}
'''Cordell:''' "Probably all three, though I wouldn't want to predict in what order." }}


== Live Action Television ==
== [[Literature]] ==
* This quote from ''[[The War Against the Chtorr]]'': "Life is short. Then you die. Then the worms eat you. Be grateful it happens in that order."
* Used a lot with "barbarian raider" types. "Remember, it's [[Rape, Pillage and Burn|rape, pillage ''then'' burn]]."
** In ''[[Interesting Times]]'', the bordering-on-senile Silver Horde have to be reminded of the proper order and that it's rape the ''women'', burn the ''houses''.
* Used for parody in ''[[The Horse and His Boy]]'', when [[The Ditz|Lasaraleen]] says that any servants disobeying an order will "first be flogged to death and then be burned alive and after that be [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|kept on bread and water for six weeks]]."
* The beginning of ''[[The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy|Mostly Harmless]]'' claims the following:
{{quote|Anything that happens, happens.
Anything that, in happening, causes something else to happen, causes something else to happen.
Anything that, in happening, causes itself to happen again, happens again.
It doesn't necessarily do it in chronological order, though. }}
* In ''[[A Song of Ice and Fire]]'', the sadistic Ramsay Snow likes to hunt women with dogs. If they are "lucky", and he thinks they put up a good fight, he'll kill them and then flay their skin and will name a dog after them. If they aren't lucky, he'll rape them and then flay them alive.
* According to the Scarecrow in ''[[The Land of Oz]]'' (the first sequel to ''[[The Wonderful Wizard of Oz]]'')
{{quote|"...[T]he penalty for chopping leaves from the royal palm-tree is to be killed seven times and afterward imprisoned for life."}}

== [[Live-Action TV]] ==
* ''[[Firefly]]'' gives us the [[Trope Namer]], which is used in the "scary threat" sense and underscores how [[The Dreaded|dreaded]] and utterly terrifying the Reavers are in the verse.
* ''[[Firefly]]'' gives us the [[Trope Namer]], which is used in the "scary threat" sense and underscores how [[The Dreaded|dreaded]] and utterly terrifying the Reavers are in the verse.
* ''[[House (TV series)|House]]'': Dr. House says to a female patient he dislikes, "If you're gonna kill me and rape me, please do it in that order."
* ''[[House (TV series)|House]]'': Dr. House says to a female patient he dislikes, "If you're gonna kill me and rape me, please do it in that order."
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{{quote|'''Julian Clary:''' I have come to sleep with your mother and then kill her ... in that order.
{{quote|'''Julian Clary:''' I have come to sleep with your mother and then kill her ... in that order.
'''Paul Merton:''' I'm afraid I've done that already. }}
'''Paul Merton:''' I'm afraid I've done that already. }}
* ''[[Jekyll]]'' - Benjamin, about to walk into a meeting with Hyde, warns his men "Don't kill him. Or me. In that order."
* ''[[Jekyll]]'': Benjamin, about to walk into a meeting with Hyde, warns his men "Don't kill him. Or me. In that order."
* [[Top Gear|Jeremy Clarkson]] once had this gem during their US Special:
* ''[[Top Gear]]'': Jeremy Clarkson once had this gem during their US Special:
{{quote|Jeremy: "We've insulted three of the most holy things in [[Deep South|this place]]: God, George W. Bush, and Country Music. [[In That Order]]. ''Ascending'' order."}}
{{quote|Jeremy: "We've insulted three of the most holy things in [[Deep South|this place]]: God, George W. Bush, and Country Music. In That Order. ''Ascending'' order."}}


== Literature ==
== [[Periodicals]] ==
* The old ''[[Mad]]'' magazine sendup of ''[[Conquest of the Planet of the Apes]]'', as the intelligent ape addresses his army:
* This quote from ''[[The War Against the Chtorr]]'': "Life is short. Then you die. Then the worms eat you. Be grateful it happens in that order."
{{quote|''All right! If we're going to win against the humans you need to listen up and stop embarrassing me! For example, when I tell you to put on your shoes and socks, I '''don't''' mean in that order!''}}
* Used a lot with "barbarian raider" types. "Remember, it's [[Rape, Pillage and Burn|rape, pillage]] ''[[Rape, Pillage and Burn|then]]'' [[Rape, Pillage and Burn|burn]]."
** In ''[[Discworld/Interesting Times|Interesting Times]]'', the bordering-on-senile Silver Horde have to be reminded of the proper order and that it's rape the ''women'', burn the ''houses''.
* Used for parody in ''[[The Horse and His Boy]]'', when [[The Ditz|Lasaraleen]] says that any servants disobeying an order will "first be flogged to death and then be burned alive and after that be [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|kept on bread and water for six weeks]]."
* The beginning of ''[[The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy|Mostly Harmless]]'' claims the following:
{{quote|Anything that happens, happens.
Anything that, in happening, causes comething else to happen, causes something else to happen.
Anything that, in happening, causes itself to happen again, happens again.
It doesn't necessarily do it in chronological order, though. }}
* In ''[[A Song of Ice and Fire]]'', the sadistic Ramsay Snow likes to hunt women with dogs. If they are "lucky", and he thinks they put up a good fight, he'll kill them and then flay their skin and will name a dog after them. If they aren't lucky, he'll rape them and then flay them alive.


== [[Video Games]] ==
== [[Video Games]] ==
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{{quote|'''Max:''' "Call him! Raise him! Tear his kneecaps out! Not in that order!"}}
{{quote|'''Max:''' "Call him! Raise him! Tear his kneecaps out! Not in that order!"}}
* A play on the ''[[Schlock Mercenary]]'' example specifically, rather than a general example in and of itself: [[Warhammer Online]] has a powerful (for its level) health potion with the description "Next time, pillage ''before'' you burn".
* A play on the ''[[Schlock Mercenary]]'' example specifically, rather than a general example in and of itself: [[Warhammer Online]] has a powerful (for its level) health potion with the description "Next time, pillage ''before'' you burn".
* F.E.A.R.'s industrial first level features the following sign on the walls: "Remember it's Quantity, Quality, Safety, ''in that order.''"
* ''[[F.E.A.R.]]''{{'}}s industrial first level features the following sign on the walls: "Remember it's Quantity, Quality, Safety, ''in that order.''"


== [[Web Comics]] ==
== [[Web Comics]] ==
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== [[Western Animation]] ==
== [[Western Animation]] ==
* In an early episode of [[The Fairly Odd Parents]] after Timmy wishes Mark the alien to earth.
* In an early episode of ''[[The Fairly OddParents]]'', after Timmy wishes Mark the alien to earth:
{{quote|'''King Gripullon:''' We will destroy the earth and get our son back! Not necessarily in that order.}}
{{quote|'''King Gripullon:''' We will destroy the earth and get our son back! Not necessarily in that order.}}
* ''[[Aqua Teen Hunger Force]]'', the 100th episode:
* ''[[Aqua Teen Hunger Force]]'', the 100th episode:
{{quote|'''[[It Makes Sense in Context|100]]''': Can I rape her and behead her? [[Inverted Trope|And not necessarily in that order]].<br />
{{quote|'''[[It Makes Sense in Context|100]]''': Can I rape her and behead her? [[Inverted Trope|And not necessarily in that order]].
''later''<br />
''later''
'''Studio Exec''': Can I rape her and behead her? ''[[Crosses the Line Twice|And not necessarily in that order]]?'' [[What Do You Mean It's for Kids?|This is a family show]]!<br />
'''Studio Exec''': "Can I rape her and behead her? ''[[Crosses the Line Twice|And not necessarily in that order]]?''" [[What Do You Mean It's for Kids?|This is a family show]]!
'''Dana Synder''': Um, yes, I will speak to him about that, yes. }}
'''Dana Synder''': Um, yes, I will speak to him about that, yes. }}


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"If [the reavers] take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins into their clothing. And, if we're very, very lucky, they'll do it in that order."

Zoe WashburnFirefly

A common tag on to threats of sexual violence, mutilation and death, the phrase "in that order" works by implication of bizarre forms of punishment achievable by switching the order around. It can be used in a serious context to raise a scary threat to levels of Squick or in a comedic context to just make the acts seem ridiculous.

Can be combined with Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking, if the "final" punishment would be pretty inconsequential following the others.

It is also very common to simply imply the trope by stressing the word of ordering. God bless italics. Note to future editors: Description then examples.

Examples of In That Order include:

Anime and Manga

  • In the oft-forgotten manga version of Excel Saga, Excel at one point tells Hyatt, "You were in a tight spot back there, Ha-Chan! If I hadn't jumped in, you would'a been buried... then murdered... then defiled!" to which Hyatt can only respond, "In exactly that order?"

Film

  • In Dead Man the character Cole Wilson was known to have killed, fucked, and ate his parents. In that order.
  • From the original Planet of the Apes: "If they catch you, they will dissect you. And kill you. In that order."
    • "Vivisection" is the standard word for doing that to a still-living thing.
  • The first movie[context?] of Brazilian comedy group Casseta & Planeta: "Go out with your hands up and suicide! Not necessarily in that order!" (two character react with "They got us! We're FUBAR!" "Not necessarily in that order!")
  • In Money Train, Wesley Snipes' and Woody Harrelson's characters get chewed out by their unhealthily aggressive supervisor for misconduct. Patterson (the supervisor) claims that if they screw up again, he's going to "fuck them dead". They then discuss and try to figure out if he meant fucking them before, or after they're dead. They come to the conclusion that "Either way it's a pain in the ass". Later in the film, Wesley makes a point that they need to stay one step ahead of "That necrophiliac Patterson".
  • In Hannibal this is referenced in the following exchange regarding Hannibal's interest in Special Agent Clarice Starling:

Mason Verger: "So what do ya think, Cordell? Does Lecter want to fuck her or kill her or eat her alive?"
Cordell: "Probably all three, though I wouldn't want to predict in what order."

Literature

Anything that happens, happens.
Anything that, in happening, causes something else to happen, causes something else to happen.
Anything that, in happening, causes itself to happen again, happens again.
It doesn't necessarily do it in chronological order, though.

  • In A Song of Ice and Fire, the sadistic Ramsay Snow likes to hunt women with dogs. If they are "lucky", and he thinks they put up a good fight, he'll kill them and then flay their skin and will name a dog after them. If they aren't lucky, he'll rape them and then flay them alive.
  • According to the Scarecrow in The Land of Oz (the first sequel to The Wonderful Wizard of Oz)

"...[T]he penalty for chopping leaves from the royal palm-tree is to be killed seven times and afterward imprisoned for life."

Live-Action TV

  • Firefly gives us the Trope Namer, which is used in the "scary threat" sense and underscores how dreaded and utterly terrifying the Reavers are in the verse.
  • House: Dr. House says to a female patient he dislikes, "If you're gonna kill me and rape me, please do it in that order."
  • In Coupling, Susan invites Steve over for dinner. When she's ready to go home and start cooking, she says to him, "You can come and watch ... in that order."
  • From the British run of Whose Line Is It Anyway?, whilst doing a scene in the style of Greek tragedy:

Julian Clary: I have come to sleep with your mother and then kill her ... in that order.
Paul Merton: I'm afraid I've done that already.

  • Jekyll: Benjamin, about to walk into a meeting with Hyde, warns his men "Don't kill him. Or me. In that order."
  • Top Gear: Jeremy Clarkson once had this gem during their US Special:

Jeremy: "We've insulted three of the most holy things in this place: God, George W. Bush, and Country Music. In That Order. Ascending order."

Periodicals

All right! If we're going to win against the humans you need to listen up and stop embarrassing me! For example, when I tell you to put on your shoes and socks, I don't mean in that order!

Video Games

Max: "Call him! Raise him! Tear his kneecaps out! Not in that order!"

  • A play on the Schlock Mercenary example specifically, rather than a general example in and of itself: Warhammer Online has a powerful (for its level) health potion with the description "Next time, pillage before you burn".
  • F.E.A.R.‍'‍s industrial first level features the following sign on the walls: "Remember it's Quantity, Quality, Safety, in that order."

Web Comics

Western Animation

King Gripullon: We will destroy the earth and get our son back! Not necessarily in that order.

100: Can I rape her and behead her? And not necessarily in that order.
later
Studio Exec: "Can I rape her and behead her? And not necessarily in that order?" This is a family show!
Dana Synder: Um, yes, I will speak to him about that, yes.