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[[File:smurfs hardcore.jpg|link=The Smurfs|frame|IT'S [[SMURFING]] AWESOME!]]
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{{quote|''"Boy, [[Toy Story]] got really dark, didn't it? I mean it's like 'You've got a friend in m- [[Kill It with Fire|BURN ALIVE! BURN UNTIL YOU ROT IN HELL!]]'"''|'''[[Bum Reviews|Chester A Bum]]''' reviewing ''[[Toy Story 3]]''}}
{{quote|''"Boy, [[Toy Story (franchise)|Toy Story]] got really dark, didn't it? I mean it's like 'You've got a friend in m- [[Kill It with Fire|BURN ALIVE! BURN UNTIL YOU ROT IN HELL!]]'"''|'''[[Bum Reviews|Chester A Bum]]''' reviewing ''[[Toy Story 3]]''}}


A [[Tone Shift]] that seeks to make a work of fiction "more adult". Usually, this is practically interpreted as "add more [[Sex Is Cool]], [[Cluster F-Bomb|profanity]], [[Family-Unfriendly Violence|heavy violence]], and controversial content".
A [[Tone Shift]] that seeks to make a work of fiction "more adult". Usually, this is practically interpreted as "add more [[Sex Is Cool]], [[Cluster F-Bomb|profanity]], [[Family-Unfriendly Violence|heavy violence]], and controversial content".


This trope usually means that a show will attempt to shift towards [[Sliding Scale of Silliness Versus Seriousness|seriousness]], [[Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism|cynicism]] and [[Sliding Scale of Shiny Versus Gritty|grit]]. In theory, archetypes which we are usually accustomed to acting in a more noble setting will have to act in one where they must think and act grimly in order to make progress, [[Deconstruction|thus forcing re-examination of the tropes involved]] and making a different sort of character. In practice, though, writers often are too lazy to make use of what most of those words mean, and ending up randomly "spicing up" a work with gratuitous gore, cursing, and sex. See '''''[[Not a Deconstruction]]'''''.
This trope usually means that a show will attempt to shift towards [[Sliding Scale of Silliness Versus Seriousness|seriousness]], [[Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism|cynicism]] and [[Sliding Scale of Shiny Versus Gritty|grit]]. In theory, archetypes which we are usually accustomed to acting in a more noble setting will have to act in one where they must think and act grimly in order to make progress, [[Deconstruction|thus forcing re-examination of the tropes involved]] and making a different sort of character. In practice, though, writers often are too lazy to make use of what most of those words mean, and ending up randomly "spicing up" a work with gratuitous gore, cursing, and sex. See '''''[[All The Tropes:Not a Deconstruction|Not a Deconstruction]]'''''.


When a show uses this trope as a tagline, expect [[Finagle's Law|anything that can go wrong will go wrong]], the setting to be a [[World Half Empty]], [[Black and Gray Morality|everyone to be bastards]], [[Deus Angst Machina|lots of unpleasant things happen to the characters]] or [[Wangst|backstories giving the characters a particular issue they can spend time angsting about]].
When a show uses this trope as a tagline, expect [[Finagle's Law|anything that can go wrong will go wrong]], the setting to be a [[World Half Empty]], [[Black and Gray Morality|everyone to be bastards]], [[Deus Angst Machina|lots of unpleasant things happen to the characters]] or [[Wangst|backstories giving the characters a particular issue they can spend time angsting about]].
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This trope became popular in [[Comic Books]] as a rebellion against the [[Silver Age]] led to more than a decade of clumsy attempts to show that comics are Darker And Edgier, and thus "[[Maturity Is Serious Business|not kid stuff anymore]]." See [[Bronze Age]], [[Dark Age]], and [[Nineties Anti-Hero]] for more details about how this worked.
This trope became popular in [[Comic Books]] as a rebellion against the [[Silver Age]] led to more than a decade of clumsy attempts to show that comics are Darker And Edgier, and thus "[[Maturity Is Serious Business|not kid stuff anymore]]." See [[Bronze Age]], [[Dark Age]], and [[Nineties Anti-Hero]] for more details about how this worked.


Also mocked as "Grimdark" (one word), derived from the tagline of ''[[Warhammer 40000]]''. ("In the grim darkness of the far future, there is ''only war.''") Sometimes justified with the phrase "[[Silly Rabbit, Idealism Is for Kids]]". Usually shows up in [[Dark Fic]].
Also mocked as "Grimdark" (one word), derived from the tagline of ''[[Warhammer 40,000]]''. ("In the grim darkness of the far future, there is ''only war.''") Sometimes justified with the phrase "[[Silly Rabbit, Idealism Is for Kids]]". Usually shows up in [[Darkfic]].


Darker And Edgier is rapidly joining [[Hilarity Ensues]] as one of the most [[Dead Horse Trope|beaten-to-death]] marketing slogans. If a pre-existing show undergoes a [[Retool]] under the guise of making things Darker And Edgier, expect [[Jumping the Shark]], especially if there was [[Executive Meddling]] involved. This tends to go better if the change was planned in storyboarding stages to keep the tone from shifting too abruptly.
Darker And Edgier is rapidly joining [[Hilarity Ensues]] as one of the most [[Dead Horse Trope|beaten-to-death]] marketing slogans. If a pre-existing show undergoes a [[Retool]] under the guise of making things Darker And Edgier, expect [[Jumping the Shark]], especially if there was [[Executive Meddling]] involved. This tends to go better if the change was planned in storyboarding stages to keep the tone from shifting too abruptly.
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Note that [[Tropes Are Not Bad]], even one misused as often as this one. Please refrain from [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Like|Complaining About]] [[Tone Shift]]s [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Like|You Don't Like]].
Note that [[Tropes Are Not Bad]], even one misused as often as this one. Please refrain from [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Like|Complaining About]] [[Tone Shift]]s [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Like|You Don't Like]].


{{noreallife|The world getting Darker and Edgier is called puberty, and it happens to everyone.}} Unless the divine has decided to change the world to make it more interesting, this trope can't really apply to the real world as a whole.
'''[[No Real Life Examples, Please]]'''. If you want to debate about how dark the world is/was, [[Take It to the Forums]].
{{examples}}

* [[Darker and Edgier/Advertising|Advertising]]
* [[Darker and Edgier/Animated Films|Animated Films]]
* [[Darker and Edgier/Anime And Manga|Anime And Manga]]
* [[Darker and Edgier/Comic Books|Comic Books]]
* [[Darker and Edgier/Fan Works|Fan Works]]
* [[Darker and Edgier/Film|Film]]
* [[Darker and Edgier/Literature|Literature]]
* [[Darker and Edgier/Live Action TV|Live Action TV]]
* [[Darker and Edgier/Music|Music]]
* [[Darker and Edgier/Mythology|Mythology]]
* [[Darker and Edgier/Pro Wrestling|Pro Wrestling]]
* [[Darker and Edgier/Radio|Radio]]
* [[Darker and Edgier/Tabletop Games|Tabletop Games]]
* [[Darker and Edgier/Toys|Toys]]
* [[Darker and Edgier/Video Games|Video Games]]
* [[Darker and Edgier/Web Animation|Web Animation]]
* [[Darker and Edgier/Webcomics|Webcomics]]
* [[Darker and Edgier/Web Original|Web Original]]
* [[Darker and Edgier/Western Animation|Western Animation]]


{{examples on subpages}}
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[[Category:Turn of the Millennium]]
[[Category:Character Development]]
[[Category:Corruption Tropes]]
[[Category:Creativity Leash]]
[[Category:Cynicism Tropes]]
[[Category:Media Adaptation Tropes]]
[[Category:Media Adaptation Tropes]]
[[Category:Cynicism Tropes]]
[[Category:Memetic Mutation]]
[[Category:Series Tropes]]
[[Category:Series Tropes]]
[[Category:Creativity Leash]]
[[Category:Sturgeon's Tropes]]
[[Category:Tone Shift]]
[[Category:Tone Shift]]
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[[Category:Tropes of Legend]]
[[Category:Darker and Edgier]]
[[Category:No Real Life Examples, Please]]
[[Category:Sturgeon's Tropes]]
[[Category:Corruption Tropes]]

Latest revision as of 19:14, 5 February 2022

IT'S SMURFING AWESOME!
"Boy, Toy Story got really dark, didn't it? I mean it's like 'You've got a friend in m- BURN ALIVE! BURN UNTIL YOU ROT IN HELL!'"

A Tone Shift that seeks to make a work of fiction "more adult". Usually, this is practically interpreted as "add more Sex Is Cool, profanity, heavy violence, and controversial content".

This trope usually means that a show will attempt to shift towards seriousness, cynicism and grit. In theory, archetypes which we are usually accustomed to acting in a more noble setting will have to act in one where they must think and act grimly in order to make progress, thus forcing re-examination of the tropes involved and making a different sort of character. In practice, though, writers often are too lazy to make use of what most of those words mean, and ending up randomly "spicing up" a work with gratuitous gore, cursing, and sex. See Not a Deconstruction.

When a show uses this trope as a tagline, expect anything that can go wrong will go wrong, the setting to be a World Half Empty, everyone to be bastards, lots of unpleasant things happen to the characters or backstories giving the characters a particular issue they can spend time angsting about.

As we can expect, this is fairly easy to screw up and poor use of these tropes can just result in Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy and Narm instead.

This trope became popular in Comic Books as a rebellion against the Silver Age led to more than a decade of clumsy attempts to show that comics are Darker And Edgier, and thus "not kid stuff anymore." See Bronze Age, Dark Age, and Nineties Anti-Hero for more details about how this worked.

Also mocked as "Grimdark" (one word), derived from the tagline of Warhammer 40,000. ("In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war.") Sometimes justified with the phrase "Silly Rabbit, Idealism Is for Kids". Usually shows up in Darkfic.

Darker And Edgier is rapidly joining Hilarity Ensues as one of the most beaten-to-death marketing slogans. If a pre-existing show undergoes a Retool under the guise of making things Darker And Edgier, expect Jumping the Shark, especially if there was Executive Meddling involved. This tends to go better if the change was planned in storyboarding stages to keep the tone from shifting too abruptly.

Note that this is not the same as a Deconstruction. A Deconstruction plays out the genre's conventions to their logical conclusions in order to criticize the initial genre conventions. This does not have to be dark (see for instance Deconstructive Parody) and it doesn't prevent things from turning out well. Darker And Edgier just adds "dark" elements to try and get the same effect. Sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Often times, though, a Deconstruction CAN cause a work to seem to be getting darker, simply because it's calling attention to dark aspects already implied but previously glossed over; see also Ascended Fridge Horror.

Parallel to Lighter and Softer, Bloodier and Gorier, Hotter and Sexier, Younger and Hipper, and Denser and Wackier.

Compare Grimmification, American Kirby Is Hardcore, Obligatory Swearing, Real Is Brown, Fractured Fairy Tale, Sugar Apocalypse, and Cerebus Syndrome.

Note that Tropes Are Not Bad, even one misused as often as this one. Please refrain from Complaining About Tone Shifts You Don't Like.

No real life examples, please; The world getting Darker and Edgier is called puberty, and it happens to everyone. Unless the divine has decided to change the world to make it more interesting, this trope can't really apply to the real world as a whole.

Examples of Darker and Edgier are listed on these subpages: