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=== [[The Avengers (Film)|The movie based on the comic book]] ===
=== [[The Avengers (film)|The movie based on the comic book]] ===
* [[Anticlimax Boss]]: Years of superhero movies have taught viewers to expect that a [[Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny|final battle]] between The Avengers and Loki would happen towards the end of the movie. It doesn't happen quite that way.
* [[Anticlimax Boss]]: Years of superhero movies have taught viewers to expect that a [[Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny|final battle]] between The Avengers and Loki would happen towards the end of the movie. It doesn't happen quite that way.
* [[Awesome Music (Sugar Wiki)|Awesome Music]]: The score by [[Alan Silvestri]], particularly the Avengers anthem. Try to listen to it and ''not'' feel ready to repel an [[Alien Invasion]]. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNdZFPitS1Q Go on, try. We'll wait.]
* [[Awesome Music (Sugar Wiki)|Awesome Music]]: The score by [[Alan Silvestri]], particularly the Avengers anthem. Try to listen to it and ''not'' feel ready to repel an [[Alien Invasion]]. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNdZFPitS1Q Go on, try. We'll wait.]
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** The short appearance of Loki's motif from a [[The Ring of the Nibelung|certain famous opera]] deserves special mention for [[Music of Note|being meta]] ''and'' super-awesome.
** The short appearance of Loki's motif from a [[The Ring of the Nibelung|certain famous opera]] deserves special mention for [[Music of Note|being meta]] ''and'' super-awesome.
* [[Catharsis Factor]]: {{spoiler|[[Metronomic Man-Mashing|The Hulk smacking Loki around.]]}} After seeing the latter spend the entire movie being a bastard--{{spoiler|and especially his callous murder of Agent Coulson}}--this was quite satisfying.
* [[Catharsis Factor]]: {{spoiler|[[Metronomic Man-Mashing|The Hulk smacking Loki around.]]}} After seeing the latter spend the entire movie being a bastard--{{spoiler|and especially his callous murder of Agent Coulson}}--this was quite satisfying.
* [[Cliché Storm]]: It wasn't lost on several critics and movie goers that ''[[The Avengers (Film)|The Avengers]]'', for all of its praise, hardly broke new ground in superhero movie storytelling (especially compared to [[The Dark Knight]] and [[Watchmen]]). It's more than a bit predictable, and every convenient plot twist unfolded in the way most people would expect after viewing one too many superhero flicks. Still, because ''[[The Avengers (Film)|The Avengers]]'' blended the best elements of superhero movies together, this is an exceptional case of [[Tropes Are Not Bad]] for many.
* [[Cliché Storm]]: It wasn't lost on several critics and movie goers that ''[[The Avengers (film)|The Avengers]]'', for all of its praise, hardly broke new ground in superhero movie storytelling (especially compared to [[The Dark Knight]] and [[Watchmen]]). It's more than a bit predictable, and every convenient plot twist unfolded in the way most people would expect after viewing one too many superhero flicks. Still, because ''[[The Avengers (film)|The Avengers]]'' blended the best elements of superhero movies together, this is an exceptional case of [[Tropes Are Not Bad]] for many.
* [[Moment of Awesome (Sugar Wiki)|Crowning Trailer Of Awesome]]:
* [[Moment of Awesome (Sugar Wiki)|Crowning Trailer Of Awesome]]:
** Shown as [[The Stinger]] to ''[[Captain America the First Avenger]]''. It's as awesome as one would think, and then some.
** Shown as [[The Stinger]] to ''[[Captain America: The First Avenger]]''. It's as awesome as one would think, and then some.
** Also the Super Bowl trailer, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGt-saFvkNk especially the extended cut.]
** Also the Super Bowl trailer, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGt-saFvkNk especially the extended cut.]
** The [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY9DnBNJFTI&feature=player_embedded second official trailer]. Holy effin' crap.
** The [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY9DnBNJFTI&feature=player_embedded second official trailer]. Holy effin' crap.
* [[Draco in Leather Pants]]: Go on, look at Tumblr. Search for Loki. We dare you. The fangirls have gone ''nuts'' about Loki ever since the first ''[[Thor (Film)|Thor]]'' film.
* [[Draco in Leather Pants]]: Go on, look at Tumblr. Search for Loki. We dare you. The fangirls have gone ''nuts'' about Loki ever since the first ''[[Thor (film)|Thor]]'' film.
* [[Ear Worm]]: ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3ZNtOcY_1A Like the sun, we will live to rise...]''
* [[Ear Worm]]: ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3ZNtOcY_1A Like the sun, we will live to rise...]''
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: The Hulk (and Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner. Remarkable for [[The Other Darrin]].)
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: The Hulk (and Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner. Remarkable for [[The Other Darrin]].)
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* [[Fan Dumb]]:
* [[Fan Dumb]]:
** Some fans complained about Black Widow's lack of a Russian accent. {{spoiler|She identifies herself as Russian in the film but talks about having been raised in the United States and then spending a lot of time abroad.}} Additionally, she's an international spy who has mastered multiple languages. So obviously, she can speak with a perfect accent. If she couldn't, she wouldn't be very good at her job. The comic character has never been described as having a Russian accent and in fact, has passed herself off as an American citizen more than once so it is safe to say that the original version speaks English with a US accent.
** Some fans complained about Black Widow's lack of a Russian accent. {{spoiler|She identifies herself as Russian in the film but talks about having been raised in the United States and then spending a lot of time abroad.}} Additionally, she's an international spy who has mastered multiple languages. So obviously, she can speak with a perfect accent. If she couldn't, she wouldn't be very good at her job. The comic character has never been described as having a Russian accent and in fact, has passed herself off as an American citizen more than once so it is safe to say that the original version speaks English with a US accent.
** Some fans were enraged at Cap's line about Thor ("There's only one God, ma'am, and I'm pretty sure He doesn't dress like that"), claiming that Joss Whedon was having a case of religious [[Writer On Board]]. Putting aside the fact that Cap has always been [http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/CaptainAmerica.html a deeply religious Christian] (and therefore such a line isn't out of character for him), Joss Whedon himself is a staunch humanist who once derisively referred to the Abrahamic God as "the sky bully."
** Some fans were enraged at Cap's line about Thor ("There's only one God, ma'am, and I'm pretty sure He doesn't dress like that"), claiming that Joss Whedon was having a case of religious [[Writer on Board]]. Putting aside the fact that Cap has always been [http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/CaptainAmerica.html a deeply religious Christian] (and therefore such a line isn't out of character for him), Joss Whedon himself is a staunch humanist who once derisively referred to the Abrahamic God as "the sky bully."
* [[Fan Nickname]]:
* [[Fan Nickname]]:
** "Thorbuster" for Coulson's unnamed [[BFG]]<ref>The name came from an Iron Man suit Tony designed based on Norse weaponry in case he had to take on the pantheon.</ref>
** "Thorbuster" for Coulson's unnamed [[BFG]]<ref>The name came from an Iron Man suit Tony designed based on Norse weaponry in case he had to take on the pantheon.</ref>
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** Cap and Thor. Seriously. That searching look Thor gives Cap when Cap goes on fighting after he's hit...it's like a light went on inside his head.
** Cap and Thor. Seriously. That searching look Thor gives Cap when Cap goes on fighting after he's hit...it's like a light went on inside his head.
** As in the comics, Cap even gets this with Stark. During their arguments, one can't help but think, [[Belligerent Sexual Tension|"Just KISS already!"]]
** As in the comics, Cap even gets this with Stark. During their arguments, one can't help but think, [[Belligerent Sexual Tension|"Just KISS already!"]]
*** You know it's bad when a prominent article (tweeted by director [[Brad Bird (Creator)|Brad Bird]]) singled out their exchanges as [http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7883348/making-sense-marvel-mega-bet-avengers "crypto-erotic tension"].
*** You know it's bad when a prominent article (tweeted by director [[Brad Bird]]) singled out their exchanges as [http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7883348/making-sense-marvel-mega-bet-avengers "crypto-erotic tension"].
** Agent Coulson's fanboy tendencies toward Cap is played for laughs, but the way he tells him "I watched you when you slept" can be interpreted in some ways...
** Agent Coulson's fanboy tendencies toward Cap is played for laughs, but the way he tells him "I watched you when you slept" can be interpreted in some ways...
* [[Holy Shit Quotient]]: As befitting.
* [[Holy Shit Quotient]]: As befitting.
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** Loki calling Black Widow a "[[Getting Crap Past the Radar|mewling]] [[Country Matters|quim]]". It's produced some [http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3chhfz2mp1qewfmxo1_400.jpg interesting] [http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3gdf8yQ2X1qchotbo1_500.jpg reactions], to say the least.
** Loki calling Black Widow a "[[Getting Crap Past the Radar|mewling]] [[Country Matters|quim]]". It's produced some [http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3chhfz2mp1qewfmxo1_400.jpg interesting] [http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3gdf8yQ2X1qchotbo1_500.jpg reactions], to say the least.
** Tony Stark & Bruce Banner: [http://i.imgur.com/TN7JJ.jpg SCIENCE BROS]
** Tony Stark & Bruce Banner: [http://i.imgur.com/TN7JJ.jpg SCIENCE BROS]
** "I watched you when you were sleeping." (Usually accompanied by references to [[Twilight (Literature)|Edward and Bella.]])
** "I watched you when you were sleeping." (Usually accompanied by references to [[Twilight (novel)|Edward and Bella.]])
** The phrase "green rage monster" to describe the Hulk.
** The phrase "green rage monster" to describe the Hulk.
** This film has at least as many [[Female Gaze]] shots as ''Thor''. [http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m486lgS0Fq1rw8jw9o1_500.png Jeremy Renner only seems to be encouraging this] in his downtime - and that shot from behind of Cap going at that punching bag must be the most gif'ed thing on Tumblr.
** This film has at least as many [[Female Gaze]] shots as ''Thor''. [http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m486lgS0Fq1rw8jw9o1_500.png Jeremy Renner only seems to be encouraging this] in his downtime - and that shot from behind of Cap going at that punching bag must be the most gif'ed thing on Tumblr.
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* [[Special Effects Failure]]: Minor one, repeatedly after the scenes once they're on the helicarrier, the arc reactor's light is not visible through Tony Stark's shirt when it should be. It comes and goes.
* [[Special Effects Failure]]: Minor one, repeatedly after the scenes once they're on the helicarrier, the arc reactor's light is not visible through Tony Stark's shirt when it should be. It comes and goes.
* [[Take That]]:
* [[Take That]]:
** The album of [[Alan Silvestri]]'s score (as opposed to the song album - of which exactly ''one'' track is in the film). How can a soundtrack be a [[Take That]], you ask? Well, soundtrack fans have long complained about digital releases having extra material not on the CD (most recently with Silvestri's ''[[Captain America: The First Avenger (Film)|Captain America the First Avenger]]'', which doesn't have [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVC7Zvo_NyQ this] on the disc and was only available as a download). The digital album of the score of ''The Avengers'' lasts 64:25... but the physical CD runs 76:17, and several of the tracks on the download last longer on the CD (in particular "Tunnel Chase"--[[Back to The Future (Film)|not the first time]] [[Predator 2|Silvestri's used that title]]--and "Stark Goes Green"), capped with the CD having a whole extra cue ("Interrogation"). Of course, if you're strictly download-only...
** The album of [[Alan Silvestri]]'s score (as opposed to the song album - of which exactly ''one'' track is in the film). How can a soundtrack be a [[Take That]], you ask? Well, soundtrack fans have long complained about digital releases having extra material not on the CD (most recently with Silvestri's ''[[Captain America: The First Avenger|Captain America the First Avenger]]'', which doesn't have [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVC7Zvo_NyQ this] on the disc and was only available as a download). The digital album of the score of ''The Avengers'' lasts 64:25... but the physical CD runs 76:17, and several of the tracks on the download last longer on the CD (in particular "Tunnel Chase"--[[Back to the Future (film)|not the first time]] [[Predator 2|Silvestri's used that title]]--and "Stark Goes Green"), capped with the CD having a whole extra cue ("Interrogation"). Of course, if you're strictly download-only...
* [[Too Cool to Live]]: {{spoiler|Agent Coulson.}}
* [[Too Cool to Live]]: {{spoiler|Agent Coulson.}}
* [[Villain Decay]]: Loki isn't ''quite'' as menacing as he was in ''Thor'', [[Evil Is Cool|but he's still]] [[Faux Affably Evil|a lot of fun to watch.]]
* [[Villain Decay]]: Loki isn't ''quite'' as menacing as he was in ''Thor'', [[Evil Is Cool|but he's still]] [[Faux Affably Evil|a lot of fun to watch.]]
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* [[The Woobie]]: Bruce Banner.
* [[The Woobie]]: Bruce Banner.


=== [[The Avengers (TV)|The TV series with Patrick Macnee]] ===
=== [[The Avengers (TV series)|The TV series with Patrick Macnee]] ===
* [[Hilarious in Hindsight]]: Doesn't Steed look rather like [[David Cameron]] in the page picture?
* [[Hilarious in Hindsight]]: Doesn't Steed look rather like [[David Cameron]] in the page picture?
* [[Memetic Outfit]]: The [[Spy Catsuit|Spy Catsuits]].
* [[Memetic Outfit]]: The [[Spy Catsuit|Spy Catsuits]].

Revision as of 22:17, 8 April 2014


The movie based on the comic book

  • Anticlimax Boss: Years of superhero movies have taught viewers to expect that a final battle between The Avengers and Loki would happen towards the end of the movie. It doesn't happen quite that way.
  • Awesome Music: The score by Alan Silvestri, particularly the Avengers anthem. Try to listen to it and not feel ready to repel an Alien Invasion. Go on, try. We'll wait.
  • Catharsis Factor: The Hulk smacking Loki around. After seeing the latter spend the entire movie being a bastard--and especially his callous murder of Agent Coulson--this was quite satisfying.
  • Cliché Storm: It wasn't lost on several critics and movie goers that The Avengers, for all of its praise, hardly broke new ground in superhero movie storytelling (especially compared to The Dark Knight and Watchmen). It's more than a bit predictable, and every convenient plot twist unfolded in the way most people would expect after viewing one too many superhero flicks. Still, because The Avengers blended the best elements of superhero movies together, this is an exceptional case of Tropes Are Not Bad for many.
  • Crowning Trailer Of Awesome:
  • Draco in Leather Pants: Go on, look at Tumblr. Search for Loki. We dare you. The fangirls have gone nuts about Loki ever since the first Thor film.
  • Ear Worm: Like the sun, we will live to rise...
  • Ensemble Darkhorse: The Hulk (and Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner. Remarkable for The Other Darrin.)
    • Agent Coulson has also become very popular. Not bad for someone who was created specifically for the movies and never appeared in the comics.
  • Fan Dumb:
    • Some fans complained about Black Widow's lack of a Russian accent. She identifies herself as Russian in the film but talks about having been raised in the United States and then spending a lot of time abroad. Additionally, she's an international spy who has mastered multiple languages. So obviously, she can speak with a perfect accent. If she couldn't, she wouldn't be very good at her job. The comic character has never been described as having a Russian accent and in fact, has passed herself off as an American citizen more than once so it is safe to say that the original version speaks English with a US accent.
    • Some fans were enraged at Cap's line about Thor ("There's only one God, ma'am, and I'm pretty sure He doesn't dress like that"), claiming that Joss Whedon was having a case of religious Writer on Board. Putting aside the fact that Cap has always been a deeply religious Christian (and therefore such a line isn't out of character for him), Joss Whedon himself is a staunch humanist who once derisively referred to the Abrahamic God as "the sky bully."
  • Fan Nickname:
    • "Thorbuster" for Coulson's unnamed BFG[1]
    • Shawarmavengers, for the second stinger.
    • Steelix for the giant biomechanical Leviathan-things.
  • Fridge Brilliance: Loki gets his mouth sewn shut in the Norse myths after a trick with the dwarfs goes awry. At the end of the movie, there's a muzzle over his mouth as he's taken away to Asgard.
  • Fridge Horror:
    • Considering that it took going unconscious to break Loki's Mind Control, take a look at Hawkeye and Selvig throughout the movie. This is especially true for Selvig--he never changes clothing and starts noticeably growing stubble. It's clear that Loki is forcing those he controls to stay awake constantly in order to complete his project. It also explains why Hawkeye looks worse and worse. It may also have affected him while fighting with Natasha.
  • Genius Bonus: Loki exploits his infamous Leitmotif from Wagner's The Ring of the Nibelung to make a dramatic entrance. He even waves his scepter around as if he were conducting the music, suggesting that he's listened to such things a lot.
  • He's Just Hiding: Coulson is speculated to have actually survived his encounter with Loki. The fact that Nick Fury was later revealed to have at the very least lied about where his Captain America cards were located, as well as his actor stating that Whedon has him booked for more Marvel movies also leads credence to this.
  • Ho Yay:
    • A lot of the lines between Stark and Banner sound kinda flirty, and a thousand fanfics were launched in the single moment when Stark randomly pokes Banner in the stomach and Banner just puts up a mild, vaguely amused protest. Couple that with the scene where the Hulk saves Iron Man twice in rapid succession, and the fact that these two are the only two members of the Avengers to hit it off the instant they meet...
    • Perhaps it's less suspect in Asgard, but the way Thor cupped Loki's cheek and neck while asking him to come home seemed a bit affectionate (in a not so brotherly manner) to mortal audiences.
    • Cap and Thor. Seriously. That searching look Thor gives Cap when Cap goes on fighting after he's hit...it's like a light went on inside his head.
    • As in the comics, Cap even gets this with Stark. During their arguments, one can't help but think, "Just KISS already!"
    • Agent Coulson's fanboy tendencies toward Cap is played for laughs, but the way he tells him "I watched you when you slept" can be interpreted in some ways...
  • Holy Shit Quotient: As befitting.
  • Hype Backlash: With so much hype, this was bound to happen to some.
  • Iron Woobie: Bruce Banner.
  • Like You Would Really Do It: Few people really believed that Iron Man was going to kick it.
  • Magnificent Bastard: Loki zig-zags between this and Smug Snake.
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • "I have an army." "We have a Hulk."
      • And its variations, such as 'We have a Coulson'.
    • Also, variations of this piece of dialogue:

 Steve Rogers: Big man in a suit of armor, take that away and what are you?

Tony Stark: Genius billionaire playboy philanthropist.

The TV series with Patrick Macnee

  1. The name came from an Iron Man suit Tony designed based on Norse weaponry in case he had to take on the pantheon.