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Contrast with [[Jumping the Shark]], [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]], and [[Dethroning Moment of Suck]].
Contrast with [[Jumping the Shark]], [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]], and [[Dethroning Moment of Suck]].
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== Anime ==
== Anime ==


* Many people don't like the first episode of ''[[Code Geass]]'' until the [[Anti-Hero|final]] [[Psychotic Smirk|few]] [[Magnificent Bastard|moments]].
* Many people don't like the first episode of ''[[Code Geass]]'' until the [[Anti-Hero|final]] [[Psychotic Smirk|few]] [[Magnificent Bastard|moments]].
* Thanks to the [[Compressed Adaptation]], ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist (manga)|Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood]]'', is criticized for ''not'' winning the crowd until nearly twenty episodes, when it finally starts uncompressing. However, many critics and fans of the series let this slide considering the fact that the [[Growing the Beard|remaining forty episodes are widely hailed as some of the best animated television in recent memory]].
* Many ''[[Gundam]]'' fans didn't start to enjoy ''[[Gundam AGE]]'' until they got to the last three episodes of the First Generation (that's [[Animation Bump|episodes]] [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|13]], [[Tear Jerker|14]], and [[Wham! Episode|15.]])
* It gets a lot easier to get people into ''[[Higurashi no Naku Koro ni]]'' after they get to the first psychotic outburst.
* It gets a lot easier to get people into ''[[Higurashi no Naku Koro ni]]'' after they get to the first psychotic outburst.
* Assuming you don't [[Late Arrival Spoiler|already know how it goes]], let's just say you should watch ''[[Puella Magi Madoka Magica]]'' until the third episode before you decide whether or not to drop it.
* Assuming you don't [[Late Arrival Spoiler|already know how it goes]], let's just say you should watch ''[[Puella Magi Madoka Magica]]'' until the third episode before you decide whether or not to drop it.
* Many ''[[Gundam]]'' fans didn't start to enjoy ''[[Gundam AGE]]'' until they got to the last three episodes of the First Generation (that's [[Animation Bump|episodes]] [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|13]], [[Tear Jerker|14]], and [[Wham! Episode|15.]])
* Thanks to the [[Compressed Adaptation]], ''[[Fullmetal Alchemist (manga)|Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood]]'', is criticized for ''not'' winning the crowd until nearly twenty episodes, when it finally starts uncompressing. However, many critics and fans of the series let this slide considering the fact that the [[Growing the Beard|remaining forty episodes are widely hailed as some of the best animated television in recent memory]].




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* ''[[Gladiator]]'' is the [[Trope Namer]], and the opening battle likely was this for many.
* ''[[Gladiator]]'' is the [[Trope Namer]], and the opening battle likely was this for many.
* The opening crawl and the [[Crowning Music of Awesome|kickass John Williams theme]] won the crowd for ''[[Star Wars]]'' and that even before the [[Visual Effects of Awesome|shot of the puny Tantive IV being chased by the miles huge Star Destroyer]].
* ''[[The Lion King]]'', even though its an awesome movie like [[Star Wars]] with a soundtrack of [[Crowning Music of Awesome|CMOA]], showing the entire "Circle Of Life" scene definitely counts. The music, the animals, the [[Scenery Porn]], etc. It's all good.
* ''[[Scanners]]''. [[Your Head Asplode|You know the scene.]]
* ''[[The Lion King]]'', even though its an awesome movie like [[Star Wars]] with a soundtrack of [[Crowning Music of Awesome|CMOA]], showing the enitre "Circle Of Life" scene definitely counts. The music, the animals, the [[Scenery Porn]], ect. It's all good.
** [[Magnum Opus Dissonance|Before that, Disney was just making it as a filler film before]] ''[[Pocahontas]]'' [[Magnum Opus Dissonance|came out the next year,]] but after that it became clear that it would be a massive success.
** [[Magnum Opus Dissonance|Before that, Disney was just making it as a filler film before]] ''[[Pocahontas]]'' [[Magnum Opus Dissonance|came out the next year,]] but after that it became clear that it would be a massive success.
* ''[[Scanners]]''. [[Your Head Asplode|You know the scene.]]
* The opening crawl and the [[Crowning Music of Awesome|kickass John Williams theme]] won the crowd for ''[[Star Wars]]'' and that even before the [[Visual Effects of Awesome|shot of the puny Tantive IV being chased by the miles huge Star Destroyer]].
* The opening of the first ''[[Superman]]'' film as the score by [[John Williams]] really gets going as Superman's chest symbol appears, marking the beginning of the [[Superhero]] film as a big time movie genre.
* The opening of the first ''[[Superman]]'' film as the score by [[John Williams]] really gets going as Superman's chest symbol appears, marking the beginning of the [[Superhero]] film as a big time movie genre.
* ''[[Toy Story]]''. When the first song, "You've Got a Friend in Me" started playing over the opening credits, we knew they would win the crowd over.
* ''[[Toy Story]]''. When the first song, "You've Got a Friend in Me" started playing over the opening credits, we knew they would win the crowd over.
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== Live Action TV ==
== Live Action TV ==


* ''[[Star Trek: The Next Generation]]'' won some fans by [[Trope Namer|growing the beard]] in the second season, won a few more with the acclaimed third season episodes, but with "The Best of Both Worlds", even the holdouts were won over.
{{quote|Riker:''Mr. Worf, fire.''}}
* ''[[Doctor Who]]'' achieved this when introducing the Daleks, resulting in a series that was originally going to run for just 13 weeks lasting for 26 years.
* ''[[Doctor Who]]'' achieved this when introducing the Daleks, resulting in a series that was originally going to run for just 13 weeks lasting for 26 years.
** Then, after 16 years of being off the air, ''came back'' and became even more ridiculously popular than it was during the old series and has been on for 5 years already.
** Then, after 16 years of being off the air, ''came back'' and became even more ridiculously popular than it was during the old series and has been on for 5 years already.
* The first few episodes of ''[[24]]'' were solid, but it was the sixth episode, where Janet York was murdered in her hospital bed by the man who, up until that point, the audience had believed to be her father and Jack Bauer was told his daughter had been kidnapped and would be killed if he didn't comply with the terrorist's instructions, that proved the show could live up to its hype.
* The end of the second episode of ''[[Lost]]''.
* The end of the second episode of ''[[Lost]]''.
* ''[[Star Trek: The Next Generation]]'' won some fans by [[Growing the Beard]] in the second season, won a few more with the acclaimed third season episodes, but with "The Best of Both Worlds", even the holdouts were won over.
{{quote|Riker:''Mr. Worf, fire.''}}
* The first few episodes of ''[[24]]'' were solid, but it was the sixth episode, where Janet York was murdered in her hospital bed by the man who, up until that point, the audience had believed to be her father and Jack Bauer was told his daughter had been kidnapped and would be killed if he didn't comply with the terrorist's instructions, that proved the show could live up to its hype.


== Web Comics ==
== Web Comics ==
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== Video Games ==
== Video Games ==


* An [[In-Universe]] example is the [[PlayStation 2]] game, ''[[Shadow of Rome]]'', where the segments that have you play as Agrippa the gladiator requires you to have a lot of flash and impressive moves, because if you play for speed and simple efficiency, the crowd wouldn't like your performance and it's [[Game Over]].
* In Chapter 3 of ''[[Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door]]'', you have to defeat your opponents in a particularly spectacular manner in order to advance to the next rank.
* In Chapter 3 of ''[[Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door]]'', you have to defeat your opponents in a particularly spectacular manner in order to advance to the next rank.
* An [[In-Universe]] example is the [[PlayStation 2]] game ''[[Shadow of Rome]]'', where the segments that have you play as Agrippa the gladiator requires you to have a lot of flash and impressive moves, because if you play for speed and simple efficiency, the crowd wouldn't like your performance and it's [[Game Over]].


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Revision as of 02:13, 25 April 2015

When you know you pulled it off.


"I wasn't the best because I could kill quickly. I was the best because the crowd loved me. Win the crowd, and you win your freedom."
Proximo (Oliver Reed), Gladiator

So the Coming Attractions got lots of people to watch the first episode of a new show. But is that enough to keep them watching?

Of course not. If the audience thinks your show sucks, then the viewers change the channel and know once again to Never Trust a Trailer.

So basically you need the viewers to keep watching. While that is obvious as hell, the thing is that it's not always obvious exactly how you do it. One might think that writing a good show is how you do it, but not really. Not only does that seemingly eliminate most writers, there's also the fact that viewers have different tastes about what is good and what isn't.

This is why subjectively good writing is less important for viewership than simply getting the viewers to like the show. Thus it's a good idea to write what your audience likes. This is why so many shows are Strictly Formula.

Plus the opening of the show is often crucial for this. That's why the first two to three minutes of a show almost invariably are either has a hook for the rest of the show, has a large percentage of the best jokes/tensest moments/biggest explosions, or has a combination of those. This is almost always where you will find the Quip to Black.

Regardless, it's important to keep the viewers liking your show. Even it isn't immediate, you can still make the show work eventually if the suits see the potential. But that can often be harder than winning the audience over.

Also beware of Pandering to the Base.

Compare with Growing the Beard (which can also win viewers), Killer App (which wins the crowd for a system), And the Fandom Rejoiced, and Crowning Moment of Awesome.

Contrast with Jumping the Shark, Wall Banger, and Dethroning Moment of Suck.

Examples of Win the Crowd include:

Anime


Film

Live Action TV

  • Doctor Who achieved this when introducing the Daleks, resulting in a series that was originally going to run for just 13 weeks lasting for 26 years.
    • Then, after 16 years of being off the air, came back and became even more ridiculously popular than it was during the old series and has been on for 5 years already.
  • The end of the second episode of Lost.
  • Star Trek: The Next Generation won some fans by Growing the Beard in the second season, won a few more with the acclaimed third season episodes, but with "The Best of Both Worlds", even the holdouts were won over.

Riker:Mr. Worf, fire.

  • The first few episodes of 24 were solid, but it was the sixth episode, where Janet York was murdered in her hospital bed by the man who, up until that point, the audience had believed to be her father and Jack Bauer was told his daughter had been kidnapped and would be killed if he didn't comply with the terrorist's instructions, that proved the show could live up to its hype.

Web Comics

  • It's been noted by both Howard Taylor and Phil and Kaja Foglio that every single page of a webcomic has to be like this, since it's likely that for someone that one page is the only one they'll ever see. Given the length of the average webcomic page, more than likely it will fill up most of that space.

Video Games

  • In Chapter 3 of Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, you have to defeat your opponents in a particularly spectacular manner in order to advance to the next rank.
  • An In-Universe example is the PlayStation 2 game Shadow of Rome, where the segments that have you play as Agrippa the gladiator requires you to have a lot of flash and impressive moves, because if you play for speed and simple efficiency, the crowd wouldn't like your performance and it's Game Over.