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** Given the large number of variations on the same stories, there's quite a bit of this within the spinoff comics as well. One of the more common interpretations in runs of [[Pokémon Red and Blue|the first gen and its remakes]] is the common [[Fanon]] theory of Blue/Gary being Oak's [[The Unfavorite|Unfavorite]] while his grandfather favors the MC appears quite often. Other runs paint him as a flat-out [[Jerkass]], while others split the difference for a [[Jerkass Woobie]].
** Given the large number of variations on the same stories, there's quite a bit of this within the spinoff comics as well. One of the more common interpretations in runs of [[Pokémon Red and Blue|the first gen and its remakes]] is the common [[Fanon]] theory of Blue/Gary being Oak's [[The Unfavorite|Unfavorite]] while his grandfather favors the MC appears quite often. Other runs paint him as a flat-out [[Jerkass]], while others split the difference for a [[Jerkass Woobie]].
** Another frequent point of variation: how gym leaders and other trainers respond to death on the battlefield. Any given gym leader could be portrayed as a professional who has accepted death as a natural consequence of battle, a friendly foe who's honestly shocked at seeing their opponent's pokemon die, or an utter [[Jerkass]] who gloats and rubs the loss in their face.
** Another frequent point of variation: how gym leaders and other trainers respond to death on the battlefield. Any given gym leader could be portrayed as a professional who has accepted death as a natural consequence of battle, a friendly foe who's honestly shocked at seeing their opponent's pokemon die, or an utter [[Jerkass]] who gloats and rubs the loss in their face.
** [[Pokémon Red and Blue (Video Game)|Professor Oak, Bill]], and [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire (Video Game)|Mr. Briney]] are often portrayed as creepy perverts, as well.
** [[Pokémon Red and Blue|Professor Oak, Bill]], and [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|Mr. Briney]] are often portrayed as creepy perverts, as well.
** In ''almost any'' Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald run you read, Norman will be interpreted as a trainer who is so obsessed with Pokemon that he neglects spending time with his family.
** In ''almost any'' Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald run you read, Norman will be interpreted as a trainer who is so obsessed with Pokemon that he neglects spending time with his family.
** In the same vein, Archie is seldomly portrayed as anything more than [[Stupid Evil|a moron]]. Maxie has a few moments [[What an Idiot!|("How did I not see water is GOOD?!"),]] but he is generally shown as more intelligent and having [[Anti-Villain|greater thought out motives.]]
** In the same vein, Archie is seldomly portrayed as anything more than [[Stupid Evil|a moron]]. Maxie has a few moments [[What an Idiot!|("How did I not see water is GOOD?!"),]] but he is generally shown as more intelligent and having [[Anti-Villain|greater thought out motives.]]
* [[Crowning Moment of Awesome]]: [[Nuzlocke Comics (Webcomic)/Awesome|Here]].
* [[Crowning Moment of Awesome]]: [[Nuzlocke Comics/Awesome|Here]].
* [[Crowning Moment of Funny]]: [[Nuzlocke Comics (Webcomic)/Funny|Here]].
* [[Crowning Moment of Funny]]: [[Nuzlocke Comics/Funny|Here]].
* [[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming]]: And [[Nuzlocke Comics (Webcomic)/Heartwarming|here]].
* [[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming]]: And [[Nuzlocke Comics/Heartwarming|here]].
* [[Fake Difficulty]]: YMMV, but due to the random nature of the game playing a big part of the game, the Nuzlocke challenge tends to involve more grinding and random deaths.
* [[Fake Difficulty]]: YMMV, but due to the random nature of the game playing a big part of the game, the Nuzlocke challenge tends to involve more grinding and random deaths.
* [[Fan Nickname]]:
* [[Fan Nickname]]:
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** Or, more recently, with [[Mr. Fanservice|N]].
** Or, more recently, with [[Mr. Fanservice|N]].
* [[Straw Man Has a Point]]: There's something to be said for N's claims -- that pokemon battles are cruel, selfish, and only result in pokemon being hurt -- on a normal playthrough. On a Nuzlocke run, he's pretty much right.
* [[Straw Man Has a Point]]: There's something to be said for N's claims -- that pokemon battles are cruel, selfish, and only result in pokemon being hurt -- on a normal playthrough. On a Nuzlocke run, he's pretty much right.
* [[Tear Jerker]]: Whenever a Pokemon dies. [[Nuzlocke Comics (Webcomic)/Tear Jerker|Deserves its own page...]]
* [[Tear Jerker]]: Whenever a Pokemon dies. [[Nuzlocke Comics/Tear Jerker|Deserves its own page...]]
** [[Wangst]]: Once you apply [[Fridge Logic]] to the Nuzlocke comics.
** [[Wangst]]: Once you apply [[Fridge Logic]] to the Nuzlocke comics.


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* [[Growing the Beard]]: The Ruby run was good, but rough around the edges. The Fire Red run saw a general improvement in the art, dialogue, characterization and plot, and was an even better series.
* [[Growing the Beard]]: The Ruby run was good, but rough around the edges. The Fire Red run saw a general improvement in the art, dialogue, characterization and plot, and was an even better series.
* [[Ho Yay]]: Bill and the guy with glasses.
* [[Ho Yay]]: Bill and the guy with glasses.
* [[Squick]]/[[Fan Service]]: [http://www.nuzlocke.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/ruby51.jpg Torkoal used Attract!]
* [[Squick]]/[[Fan Service]]: [https://web.archive.org/web/20110103212732/http://www.nuzlocke.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/ruby51.jpg Torkoal used Attract!]


==== Hale's Emerald/Platinum Hard Mode ====
==== Hale's Emerald/Platinum Hard Mode ====
* [[Alternate Character Interpretation]]: May goes from a [[Flat Character]] who didn't get as much characterization as Rival!Brandon to a [[Stalker With a Crush]]/[[Yandere]] whose expressions evoke ''[[Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni]]''.
* [[Alternate Character Interpretation]]: May goes from a [[Flat Character]] who didn't get as much characterization as Rival!Brandon to a [[Stalker with a Crush]]/[[Yandere]] whose expressions evoke ''[[Higurashi no Naku Koro ni]]''.
** Also in Emerald, Archie is a hippie, and Maxie is highly competant - he just wants to give land-dwellers a place to stay whenever Archie manages to flood the world.
** Also in Emerald, Archie is a hippie, and Maxie is highly competant - he just wants to give land-dwellers a place to stay whenever Archie manages to flood the world.
** And then there's [[Creepy Twins|Tate]] and [[Twincest|Liza]]... even their Pokemon were freaked out.
** And then there's [[Creepy Twins|Tate]] and [[Twincest|Liza]]... even their Pokemon were freaked out.
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* [[Harsher in Hindsight]]: In Hale's comic, Hale tells May that she should kill herself. {{spoiler|Guess what she tries to do later on.}}
* [[Harsher in Hindsight]]: In Hale's comic, Hale tells May that she should kill herself. {{spoiler|Guess what she tries to do later on.}}
** [[Funny Aneurysm Moment]]: May was treated as an [[Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain]] and her threats of murder aren't taken very seriously, even when she kills grandma Winstrait. {{spoiler|But then she finally manages to kill Django...}}
** [[Funny Aneurysm Moment]]: May was treated as an [[Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain]] and her threats of murder aren't taken very seriously, even when she kills grandma Winstrait. {{spoiler|But then she finally manages to kill Django...}}
* [[Ship to Ship Combat]]: Of a sort; the fight was between Hale/May and Hale/''nobody''.
* [[Ship-to-Ship Combat]]: Of a sort; the fight was between Hale/May and Hale/''nobody''.
* [[Memetic Badass]]: Connery, according to his fans.
* [[Memetic Badass]]: Connery, according to his fans.


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==== Nyachan's Nuzlocke Challenges ====
==== Nyachan's Nuzlocke Challenges ====
* [[Memetic Outfit]]: Played with during her Pearl run, as {{spoiler|Lily remains the heroine and Gary the rival, but they wear the familiar outfits of Dawn and Barry}}.
* [[Memetic Outfit]]: Played with during her Pearl run, as {{spoiler|Lily remains the heroine and Gary the rival, but they wear the familiar outfits of Dawn and Barry}}.
* [[Ship to Ship Combat]]: So much in her ''Pearl'' run, between Lily/Gary and Lily/Lucas, that she had to threaten to holler at the mods in the opening post of her ''Sapphire'' run. {{spoiler|Gary won}}, if you're interested.
* [[Ship-to-Ship Combat]]: So much in her ''Pearl'' run, between Lily/Gary and Lily/Lucas, that she had to threaten to holler at the mods in the opening post of her ''Sapphire'' run. {{spoiler|Gary won}}, if you're interested.


==== Kynim's Nuzlocke Runs ====
==== Kynim's Nuzlocke Runs ====
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Kynim wasn't really expecting all the love Mimi got from the instant she joined the team.
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Kynim wasn't really expecting all the love Mimi got from the instant she joined the team.
* [[Shipping]]: During her platinum run [http://s7.zetaboards.com/Nuzlocke_Forum/topic/8421769/1 Kynim] dates {{spoiler|Roark}} after {{spoiler|beating him in a [http://fav.me/d37j1la Gym Battle]}}
* [[Shipping]]: During her platinum run [https://web.archive.org/web/20131115160019/http://s7.zetaboards.com/Nuzlocke_Forum/topic/8421769/1/ Kynim] dates {{spoiler|Roark}} after {{spoiler|beating him in a [http://fav.me/d37j1la Gym Battle]}}
** Her White run is ''full'' of [[Ship Tease|ships getting teased]].
** Her White run is ''full'' of [[Ship Tease|ships getting teased]].


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==== [[Shining Ace]]'s Nuzlocke ====
==== [[Shining Ace]]'s Nuzlocke ====
* [[Shipping]]: Notable as [http://s7.zetaboards.com/Nuzlocke_Forum/topic/8415965/1/ ShiningAce's Nuzlocke] he is {{spoiler|in an arranged marriage with Erika}}
* [[Shipping]]: Notable as [https://web.archive.org/web/20121128035225/http://s7.zetaboards.com/Nuzlocke_Forum/topic/8415965/1 ShiningAce's Nuzlocke] he is {{spoiler|in an arranged marriage with Erika}}
** {{spoiler|And then he met Sabrina...}}
** {{spoiler|And then he met Sabrina...}}


==== Other comics ====
==== Other comics ====
* [[Complete Monster]]: [[Villain Protagonist]] Melvin from the [[Dead Fic|dead comic]] ''Chronicles of Rolthar'', whose mission is to kill every last Pokemon trainer in Kanto and [[Eye Scream|take their eyes as trophies]]. He has a [[Freudian Excuse]], but it's flimsy (his brother lost an eye in some sort of war involving Pokemon training, and Melvin is trying to get revenge for him) and wasn't fully-explained before the comic went dead, and [[Word of God|Word of Artist]] says he's not supposed to be sympathetic.
* [[Complete Monster]]: [[Villain Protagonist]] Melvin from the [[Dead Fic|dead comic]] ''Chronicles of Rolthar'', whose mission is to kill every last Pokemon trainer in Kanto and [[Eye Scream|take their eyes as trophies]]. He has a [[Freudian Excuse]], but it's flimsy (his brother lost an eye in some sort of war involving Pokemon training, and Melvin is trying to get revenge for him) and wasn't fully-explained before the comic went dead, and [[Word of God|Word of Artist]] says he's not supposed to be sympathetic.
** The Unnamed Protagonist from [http://s7.zetaboards.com/Nuzlocke_Forum/topic/8579823/1/ Pitch Black] is a [[Nightmare Fuel|terrifying]], evil, sadistic protagonist. From the beginning it's established that he's NOT a good character, (Considering we see his first activities IMPALING POKEMON ON HIS PICKET FENCE). From then on, any Pokemon he catches he forces to fight and brutally murder his friends and family and sees them nothing more as tools, even going as far as to {{spoiler|KILL his own Pokemon}}. Basically, he's an even worse version of Paul. His Oshawott, Icarus, MAY be just as bad.
** The Unnamed Protagonist from [https://web.archive.org/web/20130801043504/http://s7.zetaboards.com/Nuzlocke_Forum/topic/8579823/1/ Pitch Black] is a [[Nightmare Fuel|terrifying]], evil, sadistic protagonist. From the beginning it's established that he's NOT a good character, (Considering we see his first activities IMPALING POKEMON ON HIS PICKET FENCE). From then on, any Pokemon he catches he forces to fight and brutally murder his friends and family and sees them nothing more as tools, even going as far as to {{spoiler|KILL his own Pokemon}}. Basically, he's an even worse version of Paul. His Oshawott, Icarus, MAY be just as bad.


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Latest revision as of 00:28, 20 March 2022


All Comics

Original Comic

Hale's Emerald/Platinum Hard Mode

Apocalypse Johto

  • Fridge Brilliance: Giovanni is startled when Candace disguised as a Rocket greets him with "Hail Giovanni!", because he's not the leader of Team Rocket any more. She blew her cover.
  • Moral Event Horizon: Candace breaking and entering into the Olivine Town lighthouse, now a shrine to honor Jasmine who sacrificed herself to allow the rest of the town to survive, by way of Forretress' Mirror Shot to get the badge, considered a sacred object by the survivors, was viewed as this by some people.
  • Nightmare Fuel

Nyachan's Nuzlocke Challenges

  • Memetic Outfit: Played with during her Pearl run, as Lily remains the heroine and Gary the rival, but they wear the familiar outfits of Dawn and Barry.
  • Ship-to-Ship Combat: So much in her Pearl run, between Lily/Gary and Lily/Lucas, that she had to threaten to holler at the mods in the opening post of her Sapphire run. Gary won, if you're interested.

Kynim's Nuzlocke Runs

Lyrax's Gold Run

  • Moral Event Horizon: Lyrax's Gold run immediately establishes the rival as a Complete Monster when he steals both of the leftover starters, apparently just so he could tell Lyrax "Don't follow me or I'll kill one of them." He does.

In Azza's Run

  • Complete Monster: God,Gary and his Charmelon. See the Moral Event Horizon trope.
  • Moral Event Horizon: Charmeleon (and his trainer as well) make it clear they're well over the Complete Monster line when Raticate argues that the murder of innocent Pokemon was completely unnecessary, and demands to be released from the team. They do so, but then Charmeleon claims that since Raticate is now a wild Pokemon, he can do whatever he wants, and very brutally murders Raticate as well.

Shining Ace's Nuzlocke

Other comics

  • Complete Monster: Villain Protagonist Melvin from the dead comic Chronicles of Rolthar, whose mission is to kill every last Pokemon trainer in Kanto and take their eyes as trophies. He has a Freudian Excuse, but it's flimsy (his brother lost an eye in some sort of war involving Pokemon training, and Melvin is trying to get revenge for him) and wasn't fully-explained before the comic went dead, and Word of Artist says he's not supposed to be sympathetic.
    • The Unnamed Protagonist from Pitch Black is a terrifying, evil, sadistic protagonist. From the beginning it's established that he's NOT a good character, (Considering we see his first activities IMPALING POKEMON ON HIS PICKET FENCE). From then on, any Pokemon he catches he forces to fight and brutally murder his friends and family and sees them nothing more as tools, even going as far as to KILL his own Pokemon. Basically, he's an even worse version of Paul. His Oshawott, Icarus, MAY be just as bad.