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The word "the" is among the most common of all the words in all of the English language, the result of which is often the placement of "the" in the title of a work or in the name of a group regardless of the wishes of the people or the person who made it. (This also happens with definite articles in other languages: "le" in French or "der" in German, for instance.)
The word "the" is among the most common of all the words in all of the English language, the result of which is often the placement of "the" in the title of a work or in the name of a group regardless of the wishes of the people or the person who made it. (This also happens with definite articles in other languages: "le" in French or "der" in German, for instance.)


The "The" Title Confusion is when nobody seems to be quite sure whether or not a "the" is required in a title. As a result, merchandise or advertising can sometimes make it seem as if the title is constantly changing, or if there might even be multiple works/groups with the same title. Often [[Word of God]] is required to make a final decision on the matter.
'''The "The" Title Confusion''' is when nobody seems to be quite sure whether or not a "the" is required in a title. As a result, merchandise or advertising can sometimes make it seem as if the title is constantly changing, or if there might even be multiple works/groups with the same title. Often [[Word of God]] is required to make a final decision on the matter.


Compare [[Spell My Name With a "The"]], when the use of a "the" is ''insisted upon''.
Compare [[Spell My Name with a "The"]], when the use of a "the" is ''insisted upon''.


Not to be confused with [[The The (Music)|The The]].
Not to be confused with [[The "The" Title]], or [[The The]].

{{examples|Examples:}}

== Anime And Manga ==


{{examples}}
== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==
* (''The'') ''[[Slayers]]''.
* (''The'') ''[[Slayers]]''.
* From ''[[Cowboy Bebop]]'', (Yoko Kanno and) (The) Seat Belts. (Also some ambiguity as to whether "Seat Belts" should be one word or two.)
* From ''[[Cowboy Bebop]]'', (Yoko Kanno and) (The) Seat Belts. (Also some ambiguity as to whether "Seat Belts" should be one word or two.)


== Comic Books ==
== [[Comic Books]] ==

* Whether anyone refers to [[Batman]] as "The Batman" depends on the era of comic books, with the "the" especially ignored during the [[Lighter and Softer]] era of the 1960s.
* Whether anyone refers to [[Batman]] as "The Batman" depends on the era of comic books, with the "the" especially ignored during the [[Lighter and Softer]] era of the 1960s.
* [[The Vision|(The) Vision]]
* [[The Vision|(The) Vision]]


== Film ==
== [[Film]] ==

* Due to a printing oversight, we get one in the middle of ''[[Attack of the The Eye Creatures]]''.
* Due to a printing oversight, we get one in the middle of ''[[Attack of the The Eye Creatures]]''.
* ''(The) [[Bad Lieutenant Port of Call New Orleans (Film)|Bad Lieutenant Port of Call New Orleans]]''
* ''(The) [[Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans]]''
* In the film ''Body Slam'' about a combiation of Rock and Wrestling there's a band called "Kicks." A reviewer talking to their manager casually refers to them as "The Kicks," but the manager is quite insistent that it's just "Kicks," saying that using "The" in a band name is passe.
* In the film ''Body Slam'' about a combination of Rock and Wrestling there's a band called "Kicks." A reviewer talking to their manager casually refers to them as "The Kicks," but the manager is quite insistent that it's just "Kicks," saying that using "The" in a band name is passé.
* Averted with the ''[[The Fast and The Furious]]'' franchise, where ''The Fast and the Furious'' is the name of the first movie, while ''Fast and Furious'' is the name of the fifth movie.
* Averted with the ''[[The Fast and the Furious]]'' franchise, where ''The Fast and the Furious'' is the name of the first movie, while ''Fast and Furious'' is the name of the fifth movie.
** Not averted with the localizations: The first movie (and with it, the whole franchise) is known as ''Fast and Furious'' in France.
** Not averted with the localizations: The first movie (and with it, the whole franchise) is known as ''Fast and Furious'' in France.
*** The same happened to ''[[The Matrix]]''.
*** The same happened to ''[[The Matrix]]''.
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* (''The'') ''[[Gangs of New York]]''
* (''The'') ''[[Gangs of New York]]''
* ''[[Last Action Hero]]'' was usually called ''The [[Last Action Hero]]'' until its release ''sans'' "The."
* ''[[Last Action Hero]]'' was usually called ''The [[Last Action Hero]]'' until its release ''sans'' "The."
* The film ''[[Minority Report]]'' is based on a story titled ''The Minority Report'' by Philip K. Dick. A short story collection by Dick was released around the same time as the movie bearing the name ''Minority Report'' like the movie, not the original story.
* The film ''[[Minority Report]]'' is based on a story titled "The Minority Report" by Philip K. Dick. A short story collection by Dick was released around the same time as the movie bearing the name ''Minority Report'' like the movie, not the original story.
* The credits to the American version of ''[[War of the Gargantuas (Film)|War of the Gargantuas]]'' has a ''The'' before the title which is not included when the title is displayed on advertising or home video packaging.
* The credits to the American version of ''[[War of the Gargantuas]]'' has a ''The'' before the title which is not included when the title is displayed on advertising or home video packaging.
* 2012 movie ''[[Film/Salmon Fishing In The Yemen|Salmon Fishing In The Yemen]]'' puts a "the" in front of the name of the country of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemen Yemen] for no obvious reason.
* 2012 movie ''[[Salmon Fishing in the Yemen]]'' puts a "the" in front of the name of the country of [[wikipedia:Yemen|Yemen]] for no obvious reason.
* [[School of Rock]] was originally called "The School of Rock," as seen in its title sequence.
* ''[[School of Rock]]'' was originally called "The School of Rock," as seen in its title sequence.
* The 2005 Spielberg adaptation of ''[[The War of the Worlds (Film)|The War of the Worlds]]'' dropped the "The" from the title.
* The 2005 Spielberg adaptation of ''[[The War of the Worlds (2005 film)|The War of the Worlds]]'' dropped the "The" from the title.
* The original treatment for ''[[Star Wars]]'' was subtitled ''The Star Wars''.
* The original treatment for ''[[Star Wars]]'' was subtitled ''The Star Wars''.


== Literature ==
== [[Literature]] ==
* Despite commonly being abbreviated "LotR", [[J. R. R. Tolkien]]'s fantasy epic is called ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]''.

* Despite commonly being abbreviated "LotR", [[JRR Tolkien (Creator)|J. R. R. Tolkien's]] fantasy epic is called ''[[The Lord of the Rings (Literature)|The Lord of the Rings]]''.
** Also happens in-story: when Radagast talks about a land he's heard of called Shire, Gandalf tells him it's ''The'' Shire.
** Also happens in-story: when Radagast talks about a land he's heard of called Shire, Gandalf tells him it's ''The'' Shire.
* The third series of ''[[Warrior Cats]]'' is called ''Power of Three''. Officially, there is no "the"; however, fans usually add the "the", giving this story arc the [[Fan Nickname]] "Teapot" (The Power of Three = TPoT = Teapot.)
* The third series of ''[[Warrior Cats]]'' is called ''Power of Three''. Officially, there is no "the"; however, fans usually add the "the", giving this story arc the [[Fan Nickname]] "Teapot" (The Power of Three = TPoT = Teapot.)


== Live Action TV ==
== [[Live-Action TV]] ==
* In-Universe example: In the ''[[Firefly (TV series)|Firefly]]'' episode "[[Firefly (TV series)/Recap/E03 Bushwhacked|Bushwhacked]]", an Alliance officer asks Inara how long she's been on "the ''Serenity''", prompting her to correct him that it's "just ''Serenity''".
* ''[[Happy Days]]'': Arthur Fonzarelli, aka "Fonzie" or "The Fonz."


== [[Music]] ==
* In-Universe example: In the ''[[Firefly]]'' episode Bushwhacked, an Alliance officer asks Inarra how long she's been on "the Serenity", prompting her to correct him that it's "just Serenity".
* Pete Wentz's band [[Black Cards]] are often called "The Black Cards".
* ''[[Happy Days]]'': Arthur Fonzerelli, aka "Fonzie" or "The Fonz."

== Music ==

* Pete Wentz's new band [[Black Cards]] are often called "The Black Cards".
* [[Eagles]] and [[Carpenters]] both commonly get a "the" slapped in front of their names.
* [[Eagles]] and [[Carpenters]] both commonly get a "the" slapped in front of their names.
* (''The'') [[The Magnetic Fields|Magnetic Fields]]
* (''The'') [[The Magnetic Fields|Magnetic Fields]]
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* (The) Strawbs
* (The) Strawbs
* The band [[Talking Heads]] were often erroneously referred to as "The Talking Heads"; they responded by naming one of their live albums ''The Name of This Band Is Talking Heads''.
* The band [[Talking Heads]] were often erroneously referred to as "The Talking Heads"; they responded by naming one of their live albums ''The Name of This Band Is Talking Heads''.
* Similarly, Annie Lennox and Dave Stewart called themselves [[Eurythmics]], not ''the'' Eurythmics.
* Deliberately [[Invoked Trope|invoked]] by the band "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_The The The]".
* Deliberately [[Invoked Trope|invoked]] by the band "[[The The]]".
** Leading to the following joke. A guy in a record store is asked to file all the albums in alphabetical order. He starts by filing them all under 'T' 'The Beatles, The Rolling Stones' etc. "No" says his boss. "Ignore the 'the'. Then he gets to 'The The'.
** Leading to the following joke. A guy in a record store is asked to file all the albums in alphabetical order. He starts by filing them all under 'T' 'The Beatles, The Rolling Stones' etc. "No" says his boss. "Ignore the 'the'. Then he gets to 'The The'.
* (The) [[Jonas Brothers (Music)|Jonas Brothers]].
* (The) [[The Jonas Brothers|Jonas Brothers]].

== Professional Wrestling ==


== [[Professional Wrestling]] ==
* Many wrestlers from the [[National Wrestling Alliance]] and the World Wrestling Federation had a hard time breaking the habit of using "the" when they were in [[WCW]]. [[Bret Hart]] in particular was notorious for this.
* Many wrestlers from the [[National Wrestling Alliance]] and the World Wrestling Federation had a hard time breaking the habit of using "the" when they were in [[WCW]]. [[Bret Hart]] in particular was notorious for this.
** Likewise when the World Wrestling Federation changed their name to World Wrestling Entertainment many wrestlers continued to refer to it as "the [[WWE]]."
** Likewise when the World Wrestling Federation changed their name to World Wrestling Entertainment many wrestlers continued to refer to it as "the [[World Wrestling Entertainment|WWE]]."


== Real Life ==
== [[Tabletop Games]] ==
* In ''[[Pathfinder]]'', the herald of the god [http://www.pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Gozreh Gozreh] is called [http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/heralds/personification-of-fury Personification of Fury]. Fury doesn't like being accidentally called "''The'' Personification of Fury" by accident (or being referred to with gendered pronouns, [[Hair-Trigger Temper|or as "it"]]).

* After the original 1E version, a large number of uses of ''[[The Temple of Elemental Evil]]'' don't include the "the". The sequel, ''Return to The Temple of Elemental Evil'', is one of the few exceptions, and it uses the "the" but only because the title doesn't work without it.
* ''The'' Gambia
* United States (no "The")
* United Kingdom (no "The")
* United Nations (no "The")
* Skydome, in Toronto, before the name change to Rogers Centre (which still, for the most part, doesn't use "The").

== Tabletop Games ==

* In ''[[Pathfinder]]'', the herald of the god [http://www.pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Gozreh Gozreh] is called [http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/heralds/personification-of-fury Personification of Fury]. Fury doesn't like being accidentally called "''The'' Personification of Fury" by accident (or being refered to with gendered pronouns, [[Hair Trigger Temper|or as "it"]]).
* After the original 1E version, a large number of uses of ''[[The Temple Of Elemental Evil]]'' don't include the "the". The sequel, ''Return To The Temple Of Elemental Evil'', is one of the few exceptions, and it uses the "the" but only because the title doesn't work without it.

== Video Games ==


== [[Video Games]] ==
* ''(The) Legend Of Zelda''. This sometimes pops up in abbreviations. Is it just LoZ or is it TLoZ?
* ''(The) Legend Of Zelda''. This sometimes pops up in abbreviations. Is it just LoZ or is it TLoZ?
** [[The Legend of Zelda a Link To T He Past (Video Game)|ALttP or just LttP]]?
** [[The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past|ALttP or just LttP]]?
** [[The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time (Video Game)|OoT or TOoT]].
** [[The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time|OoT or TOoT]].
** [[The Legend of Zelda the Wind Waker (Video Game)|TWW or just WW]]?
** [[The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker|TWW or just WW]]?
* When referring to ''[[The King of Fighters (Video Game)|The King of Fighters]]'', the ''The'' tends to be dropped by many (i.e. ''King of Fighters''), although the eponymous tournament is usually missing the article as well or just goes by KOF for short. Ditto goes for ''[[Last Blade|The Last Blade]]'', which is even denoted as ''Last Blade'' on this very wiki.
* When referring to ''[[The King of Fighters]]'', the ''The'' tends to be dropped by many (i.e. ''King of Fighters''), although the eponymous tournament is usually missing the article as well or just goes by KOF for short. Ditto goes for ''[[Last Blade|The Last Blade]]'', which is even denoted as ''Last Blade'' on this very wiki.
* ''[[Langrisser (Video Game)|Langrisser]]'' and ''Der Langrisser'' are two different games; the latter is a remake of ''Langrisser II''.
* ''[[Langrisser]]'' and ''Der Langrisser'' are two different games; the latter is a remake of ''Langrisser II''.

== Webcomics ==


== [[Web Comics]] ==
* ''[[The Perry Bible Fellowship]]'' apparently used to run into this confusion, as Nick Gurewitch addressed the question [http://web.archive.org/web/20071111013344/http://www.pbfcomics.com/author.php?link=faq in an old version of the FAQ page].
* ''[[The Perry Bible Fellowship]]'' apparently used to run into this confusion, as Nick Gurewitch addressed the question [https://web.archive.org/web/20071111013344/http://www.pbfcomics.com/author.php?link=faq in an old version of the FAQ page].
{{quote| Q: "The Perry Bible Fellowship", or "Perry Bible Fellowship"?<br />
{{quote|Q: "The Perry Bible Fellowship", or "Perry Bible Fellowship"?
A: ''The'' PBF. Treat it like a rock band though. For instance: "I own a White Stripes album", not "I own a The White Stripes album". }}
A: ''The'' PBF. Treat it like a rock band though. For instance: "I own a White Stripes album", not "I own a The White Stripes album". }}
** And despite this, the website address is www.pbfcomics.com.
** And despite this, the website address is www.pbfcomics.com.


== Web Original ==
== [[Web Original]] ==
* (The) [[The Angry Video Game Nerd|Angry Video Game Nerd]]

* On [[The Other Wiki]], battles have sometimes raged over whether to use the "the" in an article title. ''[[The Avengers (TV series)|The Avengers]]'' (the TV series) has it but ''[[The Avengers (Comic Book)|The Avengers]]'' (the comic book) doesn't. As of September 2021, their official [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style|Manual of Style]] says:
* (The) [[The Angry Video Game Nerd (Web Video)|Angry Video Game Nerd]]
{{quote|Do not use A, An, or The as the first word (Economy of the Second Empire, not The Economy of the Second Empire), unless it is an inseparable part of a name (The Hague) or title of a work (''A Clockwork Orange'', ''The Simpsons'').}}
* On [[The Other Wiki]], battles have sometimes raged over whether to use the "the" in an article title. ''[[The Avengers (TV)|The Avengers]]'' (the TV series) has it but ''[[The Avengers (Comic Book)|The Avengers]]'' (the comic book) doesn't. The official [[Manual Of Style]] says:
{{quote| Do not use A, An, or The as the first word (Economy of the Second Empire, not The Economy of the Second Empire), unless by convention it is an inseparable part of a name (The Hague) or it is part of the title of a work (''A Clockwork Orange'', ''The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien'').}}

== Western Animation ==


== [[Western Animation]] ==
* (The) ''[[Family Guy]]''
* (The) ''[[Family Guy]]''
* ''[[The Jetsons]]'' has a full-length feature titled ''Jetsons: The Movie'', to which fans sometimes refer as ''The Jetsons Movie''.
* ''[[The Jetsons]]'' has a full-length feature titled ''Jetsons: The Movie'', to which fans sometimes refer as ''The Jetsons Movie''.

== [[Real Life]] ==
* ''The'' Gambia
* Ukraine (no "The", at least not any more)
* United States (no "The")
* United Kingdom (no "The")
* United Nations (no "The")
* Skydome, in Toronto, before the name change to Rogers Centre (which still, for the most part, doesn't use "The").
* France, despite the fact that it's "la France" in its native French.


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The word "the" is among the most common of all the words in all of the English language, the result of which is often the placement of "the" in the title of a work or in the name of a group regardless of the wishes of the people or the person who made it. (This also happens with definite articles in other languages: "le" in French or "der" in German, for instance.)

The "The" Title Confusion is when nobody seems to be quite sure whether or not a "the" is required in a title. As a result, merchandise or advertising can sometimes make it seem as if the title is constantly changing, or if there might even be multiple works/groups with the same title. Often Word of God is required to make a final decision on the matter.

Compare Spell My Name with a "The", when the use of a "the" is insisted upon.

Not to be confused with The "The" Title, or The The.

Examples of The "The" Title Confusion include:

Anime and Manga

  • (The) Slayers.
  • From Cowboy Bebop, (Yoko Kanno and) (The) Seat Belts. (Also some ambiguity as to whether "Seat Belts" should be one word or two.)

Comic Books

Film

  • Due to a printing oversight, we get one in the middle of Attack of the The Eye Creatures.
  • (The) Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans
  • In the film Body Slam about a combination of Rock and Wrestling there's a band called "Kicks." A reviewer talking to their manager casually refers to them as "The Kicks," but the manager is quite insistent that it's just "Kicks," saying that using "The" in a band name is passé.
  • Averted with the The Fast and the Furious franchise, where The Fast and the Furious is the name of the first movie, while Fast and Furious is the name of the fifth movie.
    • Not averted with the localizations: The first movie (and with it, the whole franchise) is known as Fast and Furious in France.
  • Similarly averted with Final Destination, where any confusion over whether or not it needed a "the" was cleared away (or possibly enhanced) by the title of the fourth installment, The Final Destination.
  • (The) Gangs of New York
  • Last Action Hero was usually called The Last Action Hero until its release sans "The."
  • The film Minority Report is based on a story titled "The Minority Report" by Philip K. Dick. A short story collection by Dick was released around the same time as the movie bearing the name Minority Report like the movie, not the original story.
  • The credits to the American version of War of the Gargantuas has a The before the title which is not included when the title is displayed on advertising or home video packaging.
  • 2012 movie Salmon Fishing in the Yemen puts a "the" in front of the name of the country of Yemen for no obvious reason.
  • School of Rock was originally called "The School of Rock," as seen in its title sequence.
  • The 2005 Spielberg adaptation of The War of the Worlds dropped the "The" from the title.
  • The original treatment for Star Wars was subtitled The Star Wars.

Literature

  • Despite commonly being abbreviated "LotR", J. R. R. Tolkien's fantasy epic is called The Lord of the Rings.
    • Also happens in-story: when Radagast talks about a land he's heard of called Shire, Gandalf tells him it's The Shire.
  • The third series of Warrior Cats is called Power of Three. Officially, there is no "the"; however, fans usually add the "the", giving this story arc the Fan Nickname "Teapot" (The Power of Three = TPoT = Teapot.)

Live-Action TV

  • In-Universe example: In the Firefly episode "Bushwhacked", an Alliance officer asks Inara how long she's been on "the Serenity", prompting her to correct him that it's "just Serenity".
  • Happy Days: Arthur Fonzarelli, aka "Fonzie" or "The Fonz."

Music

  • Pete Wentz's band Black Cards are often called "The Black Cards".
  • Eagles and Carpenters both commonly get a "the" slapped in front of their names.
  • (The) Magnetic Fields
  • The Offspring released their second album under the name "Offspring".
  • [The] Pet Shop Boys typically insist upon having no "the," but where it makes more grammatical sense, it can pop up.
  • (The) Pixies.
  • Conversely, it was definitely The Pink Floyd, at least until Syd Barrett got kicked out.
  • (The) Strawbs
  • The band Talking Heads were often erroneously referred to as "The Talking Heads"; they responded by naming one of their live albums The Name of This Band Is Talking Heads.
  • Similarly, Annie Lennox and Dave Stewart called themselves Eurythmics, not the Eurythmics.
  • Deliberately invoked by the band "The The".
    • Leading to the following joke. A guy in a record store is asked to file all the albums in alphabetical order. He starts by filing them all under 'T' 'The Beatles, The Rolling Stones' etc. "No" says his boss. "Ignore the 'the'. Then he gets to 'The The'.
  • (The) Jonas Brothers.

Professional Wrestling

  • Many wrestlers from the National Wrestling Alliance and the World Wrestling Federation had a hard time breaking the habit of using "the" when they were in WCW. Bret Hart in particular was notorious for this.
    • Likewise when the World Wrestling Federation changed their name to World Wrestling Entertainment many wrestlers continued to refer to it as "the WWE."

Tabletop Games

  • In Pathfinder, the herald of the god Gozreh is called Personification of Fury. Fury doesn't like being accidentally called "The Personification of Fury" by accident (or being referred to with gendered pronouns, or as "it").
  • After the original 1E version, a large number of uses of The Temple of Elemental Evil don't include the "the". The sequel, Return to The Temple of Elemental Evil, is one of the few exceptions, and it uses the "the" but only because the title doesn't work without it.

Video Games

  • (The) Legend Of Zelda. This sometimes pops up in abbreviations. Is it just LoZ or is it TLoZ?
  • When referring to The King of Fighters, the The tends to be dropped by many (i.e. King of Fighters), although the eponymous tournament is usually missing the article as well or just goes by KOF for short. Ditto goes for The Last Blade, which is even denoted as Last Blade on this very wiki.
  • Langrisser and Der Langrisser are two different games; the latter is a remake of Langrisser II.

Web Comics

Q: "The Perry Bible Fellowship", or "Perry Bible Fellowship"?
A: The PBF. Treat it like a rock band though. For instance: "I own a White Stripes album", not "I own a The White Stripes album".

    • And despite this, the website address is www.pbfcomics.com.

Web Original

Do not use A, An, or The as the first word (Economy of the Second Empire, not The Economy of the Second Empire), unless it is an inseparable part of a name (The Hague) or title of a work (A Clockwork Orange, The Simpsons).

Western Animation

  • (The) Family Guy
  • The Jetsons has a full-length feature titled Jetsons: The Movie, to which fans sometimes refer as The Jetsons Movie.

Real Life

  • The Gambia
  • Ukraine (no "The", at least not any more)
  • United States (no "The")
  • United Kingdom (no "The")
  • United Nations (no "The")
  • Skydome, in Toronto, before the name change to Rogers Centre (which still, for the most part, doesn't use "The").
  • France, despite the fact that it's "la France" in its native French.