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The Marvel comic book

• Author Appeal: George Perez designed a new costume for the Scarlet Witch, which reveals that she does not wear panties. He has stated that she is his favorite character.
• Author's Saving Throw: Hank Pym, whose involvement in the Civil War debacle was negated by the reveal that he was a Skrull during that storyline.
  • Earlier than that, Avengers Forever was meant as an Author's Saving Throw for the reviled "Crossing" arc, and along the way it simplified the Kang/Immortus connection so that future writers would not have to worry about it. Not that future Avengers writers have made use of Immortus anyway, and Kang was killed off by the next writer to use him.
    • Avengers: The Children's Crusade full-stop.
• Broken Base: The fan base is pretty much irreversibly split on Brian Michael Bendis' contributions to the franchise, let alone the John Byrne Avengers West Coast run.
• Creator's Pet: Jessica Jones and Luke Cage for Bendis, Mantis for Steve Englehart, Sersi for Bob Harras, Hank Pym for Dan Slott, and Sharon Carter for Ed Brubaker
• Downer Ending:
  • Vision Quest
  • The Crossing
  • Avengers Disassembled
  • Civil War
  • Secret Invasion
  • "Operation: Galactic Storm", about the Kree-Shi'ar War, ended with the Kree Supreme Intelligence detonating a Nega bomb and obliterating most of its own species in an attempt to jump start their evolution. Half of the Avengers were so disgusted with this that they executed him.
    • It goes into an even bigger downer than that: Iron Man's participation in this sparked his descent into evil and the start of The Crossing, the aforementioned Continuity Snarl of a crossover. Then it all feeds into Onslaught...
• Fanon Discontinuity: Everything since Chuck Austen took over the book in 2003.
• God Mode Sue: Mantis under Steve Engelhart.
• Ho Yay: Iron Man and Captain America. And for them it's all over the place, starting in the classics and continuing to present day. Just look at Civil War: Confessions.
• Never Live It Down:
  • For Iron Man, both his alcoholism and Civil War.
  • For Hank Pym, smacking Jan during a drug-addled Freak Out.
• One-Scene Wonder: Pilot Marko appears for about five pages in Secret Avengers #17, and you are about to read every word he's ever spoken, but he steals the book.

Pilot Marko: Yes! Pilot Marko shoots stupid Yankee zillion-dollar plane right in its stupid bluddy face! Where is your bluddy Steve Jobs tricknology now, Rich Yankee Pigs with your tight pants? Valkyrie: (activates Extreme Separation Protocol) Pilot Marko: ... They throw bluddy airplane bum at Pilot Marko? (Pilot Marko go bye-bye)

• • This... This is what happens when you let Warren Ellis write the Avengers.
• Protection From Editors: Brian Michael Bendis, whose tenure on the title has seen him being able to do as he pleases, which has not been received favorably by all.
  • This has changed though, if Avengers Vs X-Men, Siege, The Heroic Age relaunch of the classic adjectiveless Avengers book, and "Avengers: The Children's Crusade" are any indication.
• They Changed It, Now It Sucks Basically every single line-up change in the fluid roster has gotten some criticism, but Brian Michael Bendis' reboot and Mark Millar's revisioning stand out in terms of negative feedback.
• The Woobie: The Hulk.

The movie based on the comic book

• Anticlimax Boss: Years of superhero movies have taught viewers to expect that a final battle between The Avengers and Loki would happen towards the end of the movie. It doesn't happen quite that way.
• Awesome Music: The score by Alan Silvestri, particularly the Avengers anthem. Try to listen to it and not feel ready to repel an Alien Invasion. Go on, try. We'll wait.
  • And, among many other moments "I Got A Ride" (for The Oner starting with Black Widow hijacking one of the invaders' machines and stopping in on each one of our Big Damn Heroes).
  • The short appearance of Loki's motif from a certain famous opera deserves special mention for being meta and super-awesome.
• Catharsis Factor: The Hulk smacking Loki around. After seeing the latter spend the entire movie being a bastard--and especially his callous murder of Agent Coulson--this was quite satisfying.
• Cliché Storm: It wasn't lost on several critics and movie goers that The Avengers, for all of its praise, hardly broke new ground in superhero movie storytelling (especially compared to The Dark Knight and Watchmen). It's more than a bit predictable, and every convenient plot twist unfolded in the way most people would expect after viewing one too many superhero flicks. Still, because The Avengers blended the best elements of superhero movies together, this is an exceptional case of Tropes Are Not Bad for many.
• Crowning Trailer Of Awesome:
  • Shown as The Stinger to Captain America the First Avenger. It's as awesome as one would think, and then some.
  • Also the Super Bowl trailer, especially the extended cut.
  • The second official trailer. Holy effin' crap.
• Draco in Leather Pants: Go on, look at Tumblr. Search for Loki. We dare you. The fangirls have gone nuts about Loki ever since the first Thor film.
• Ear Worm: Like the sun, we will live to rise...
• Ensemble Darkhorse: The Hulk (and Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner. Remarkable for The Other Darrin.)
  • Agent Coulson has also become very popular. Not bad for someone who was created specifically for the movies and never appeared in the comics.
• Fan Dumb:
  • Some fans complained about Black Widow's lack of a Russian accent. She identifies herself as Russian in the film but talks about having been raised in the United States and then spending a lot of time abroad. Additionally, she's an international spy who has mastered multiple languages. So obviously, she can speak with a perfect accent. If she couldn't, she wouldn't be very good at her job. The comic character has never been described as having a Russian accent and in fact, has passed herself off as an American citizen more than once so it is safe to say that the original version speaks English with a US accent.
  • Some fans were enraged at Cap's line about Thor ("There's only one God, ma'am, and I'm pretty sure He doesn't dress like that"), claiming that Joss Whedon was having a case of religious Writer On Board. Putting aside the fact that Cap has always been a deeply religious Christian (and therefore such a line isn't out of character for him), Joss Whedon himself is a staunch humanist who once derisively referred to the Abrahamic God as "the sky bully."
• Fan Nickname:
  • "Thorbuster" for Coulson's unnamed BFG
  • Shawarmavengers, for the second stinger.
  • Steelix for the giant biomechanical Leviathan-things.
• Fridge Brilliance: Loki gets his mouth sewn shut in the Norse myths after a trick with the dwarfs goes awry. At the end of the movie, there's a muzzle over his mouth as he's taken away to Asgard.
• Fridge Horror:
  • Considering that it took going unconscious to break Loki's Mind Control, take a look at Hawkeye and Selvig throughout the movie. This is especially true for Selvig--he never changes clothing and starts noticeably growing stubble. It's clear that Loki is forcing those he controls to stay awake constantly in order to complete his project. It also explains why Hawkeye looks worse and worse. It may also have affected him while fighting with Natasha.
• Genius Bonus: Loki exploits his infamous Leitmotif from Wagner's The Ring of the Nibelung to make a dramatic entrance. He even waves his scepter around as if he were conducting the music, suggesting that he's listened to such things a lot.
• He's Just Hiding: Coulson is speculated to have actually survived his encounter with Loki. The fact that Nick Fury was later revealed to have at the very least lied about where his Captain America cards were located, as well as his actor stating that Whedon has him booked for more Marvel movies also leads credence to this.
• Ho Yay:
  • A lot of the lines between Stark and Banner sound kinda flirty, and a thousand fanfics were launched in the single moment when Stark randomly pokes Banner in the stomach and Banner just puts up a mild, vaguely amused protest. Couple that with the scene where the Hulk saves Iron Man twice in rapid succession, and the fact that these two are the only two members of the Avengers to hit it off the instant they meet...
  • Perhaps it's less suspect in Asgard, but the way Thor cupped Loki's cheek and neck while asking him to come home seemed a bit affectionate (in a not so brotherly manner) to mortal audiences.
  • Cap and Thor. Seriously. That searching look Thor gives Cap when Cap goes on fighting after he's hit...it's like a light went on inside his head.
  • As in the comics, Cap even gets this with Stark. During their arguments, one can't help but think, "Just KISS already!"
    • You know it's bad when a prominent article (tweeted by director Brad Bird) singled out their exchanges as "crypto-erotic tension".
  • Agent Coulson's fanboy tendencies toward Cap is played for laughs, but the way he tells him "I watched you when you slept" can be interpreted in some ways...
• Holy Shit Quotient: As befitting.
• Hype Backlash: With so much hype, this was bound to happen to some.
• Iron Woobie: Bruce Banner.
• Like You Would Really Do It: Few people really believed that Iron Man was going to kick it.
• Magnificent Bastard: Loki zig-zags between this and Smug Snake.
• Memetic Mutation:
  • "I have an army." "We have a Hulk."
    • And its variations, such as 'We have a Coulson'.
  • Also, variations of this piece of dialogue:

Steve Rogers: Big man in a suit of armor, take that away and what are you? Tony Stark: Genius billionaire playboy philanthropist.

• • Many prefer "Stark Naked".
  • HAWKWARD.
  • "I still believe in heroes."
  • "I understood that reference!"
  • "Puny god."
  • Loki calling Black Widow a "mewling quim". It's produced some interesting reactions, to say the least.
  • Tony Stark & Bruce Banner: SCIENCE BROS
  • "I watched you when you were sleeping." (Usually accompanied by references to Edward and Bella.)
  • The phrase "green rage monster" to describe the Hulk.
  • This film has at least as many Female Gaze shots as Thor. Jeremy Renner only seems to be encouraging this in his downtime - and that shot from behind of Cap going at that punching bag must be the most gif'ed thing on Tumblr.
  • LOKI'D!
  • "Kids, in 2012, your Aunt Robin decided to join the Avengers...
  • Overly-Accepting Thor.
  • "His name is Agent!"
  • "His name is/was Phil."
• Music to Invade Poland To: Technically, Loki's invading Germany, and only as a distraction. Still, two seconds after he starts a buttkicking rampage set to the tunes of Richard Wagner, he's pretty accurately compared to Hitler.
• Narm: The UK's Market-Based Title "Avengers Assemble".
• One-Scene Wonder: Harry Dean Stanton as the random security guard. "Son, you've got a condition."
• Rescued From the Scrappy Heap: The Hulk. Two previous attempts to bring the character to the cinema screen proved somewhat lackluster (middling box-office gross, lukewarm reviews), the role got recast once again, and the character had already developed a reputation of being the most boring of the team. However, a combination of Mark Ruffalo's acting and clever screenwriting turned The Hulk into an unexpected favorite of the movie, making the possibility of a new Hulk film much more likely. Might be one of the fastest turnaround times for this ever. Shortly before release producer Kevin Feige said there were no plans for a Hulk movie. Shortly after release, it was let slip that a Hulk movie may be in development for 2015 and that Mark Ruffalo had signed on for six more films.
• Special Effects Failure: Minor one, repeatedly after the scenes once they're on the helicarrier, the arc reactor's light is not visible through Tony Stark's shirt when it should be. It comes and goes.
• Take That:
  • The album of Alan Silvestri's score (as opposed to the song album - of which exactly one track is in the film). How can a soundtrack be a Take That, you ask? Well, soundtrack fans have long complained about digital releases having extra material not on the CD (most recently with Silvestri's Captain America the First Avenger, which doesn't have this on the disc and was only available as a download). The digital album of the score of The Avengers lasts 64:25... but the physical CD runs 76:17, and several of the tracks on the download last longer on the CD (in particular "Tunnel Chase"--not the first time Silvestri's used that title--and "Stark Goes Green"), capped with the CD having a whole extra cue ("Interrogation"). Of course, if you're strictly download-only...
• Too Cool to Live: Agent Coulson.
• Villain Decay: Loki isn't quite as menacing as he was in Thor, but he's still a lot of fun to watch.
• Visual Effects of Awesome: A movie about a superhero team required an equally awesome team of visual effect studios to get right, with ILM and WETA spearheading the effort.
• The Woobie: Bruce Banner.

The TV series with Patrick Macnee

• Hilarious in Hindsight: Doesn't Steed look rather like David Cameron in the page picture?
• Memetic Outfit: The Spy Catsuits.
• Recycled Script: Several scripts from the Cathy Gale period were remade as Emma Peel stories after the series took off in America.
• Replacement Scrappy: Tara King.
• Seasonal Rot: Sixth season, with Tara King.