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''Think of [[Crystal Spires and Togas]], but'' ''[[Dissimile|without the crystal spires]] [[Ancient Rome|or the togas.]]''
''Think of [[Crystal Spires and Togas]], but'' ''[[Dissimile|without the crystal spires]] [[Ancient Rome|or the togas.]]''


Home of columned temples, chiton-wearing gods, slinkily dressed goddesses, amazons, and bearded philosophers. Also home to mythic thong-wearing heroes who ride winged horses and do great deeds (all without getting either chafed ''or'' sunburnt). The [[The Spartan Way|Spartans]]
Home of columned temples, chiton-wearing gods, slinkily dressed goddesses, amazons, and bearded philosophers. Also home to mythic thong-wearing heroes who ride winged horses and do great deeds (all without getting either chafed ''or'' sunburnt). The [[The Spartan Way|Spartans]] live here too, and they're known for their [[Training from Hell|brutal training methods]], stylish [[Bullet Time|slow-motion fighting techniques]] and for being manly enough to charge nearly naked into battle even when outnumbered 70 to 1. And they ''[[Blatant Lies|definitely]]'' [[Ho Yay|aren't gay]]. Frequently [[Ancient Grome|confused]] with [[Ancient Rome]] by directors who [[They Just Didn't Care|just don't care]].
live here too, and they're known for their [[Training From Hell|brutal training methods]], stylish [[Bullet Time|slow-motion fighting techniques]] and for being manly enough to charge nearly naked into battle even when outnumbered 70 to 1. And they ''[[Blatant Lies|definitely]]'' [[Ho Yay|aren't gay]]. Frequently [[Ancient Grome|confused]] with [[Ancient Rome]] by directors who [[They Just Didn't Care|just don't care]].


In fact, this picture is a [[Anachronism Stew|blend]] of two distinct periods; mythical Greece, conventionally said to end with the [[Trojan War]] around 1000BC, and classical Greece, home to the first philosophers. The "classical Greece" period itself tends to [[Cultural Blending|blend cultures]] that evolved and combined over the course of many centuries. Until Athens pulled the city-states together for defense against Persia, Greece didn't have a monolithic culture; it was the sum of the cultures of many independent city-states, all angling to make their patron gods the most important, and all ultimately blended together in the giant food processor of history. If you were to visit the Balkan Peninsula in, say, Pythagoras' day, you'd find that religious practices and social mores varied heavily depending on what city you were in.
In fact, this picture is a [[Anachronism Stew|blend]] of two distinct periods; mythical Greece, conventionally said to end with the [[Trojan War]] around 1000BC, and classical Greece, home to the first philosophers. The "classical Greece" period itself tends to [[Cultural Blending|blend cultures]] that evolved and combined over the course of many centuries. Until Athens pulled the city-states together for defense against Persia, Greece didn't have a monolithic culture; it was the sum of the cultures of many independent city-states, all angling to make their patron gods the most important, and all ultimately blended together in the giant food processor of history. If you were to visit the Balkan Peninsula in, say, Pythagoras' day, you'd find that religious practices and social mores varied heavily depending on what city you were in.

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=== Popular tropes that feature this time period are ===
{{tropelist|Popular tropes that feature this time period are}}
* [[Achilles' Heel]]
* [[Achilles' Heel]]
* [[Achilles in His Tent]]
* [[Achilles in His Tent]]
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* [[Cassandra Truth]]
* [[Cassandra Truth]]
* [[Erastes Eromenos]]
* [[Erastes Eromenos]]
* [[Everyone Is Armed]]: Downplayed. Slaves, women, and foreign visitors weren't and just lugging a sword around town in the middle of the day wasn't always polite. But the franchise tended to be associated with the possession of weapons. Indeed in Athens there was a long controversy over whether naval rowers should be enfranchised as they clearly were contributing to the common defense, but they were not decked out like [[Let's Fight Like Gentlemen|honorable hoplites]], did not own their own weapons, and did not have enough land to prove they would be interested in the survival of a state that guarded it. With all those complications, being armed was considered part and parcel of being a citizen
* [[Fatal Flaw]]
* [[Fatal Flaw]]
* [[Forever War]]: War was at first a seasonal activity although Greeks preferred to have one battle a year and then adjust each cities turf accordingly so they could get back to their crops. After the Persian invasion showed them what war was like when an absolutist monarch imposed his ideas of war on it war became more bitter and all pervasive.
* [[Forever War]]: War was at first a seasonal activity although Greeks preferred to have one battle a year and then adjust each cities turf accordingly so they could get back to their crops. After the Persian invasion showed them what war was like when an absolutist monarch imposed his ideas of war on it war became more bitter and all pervasive.
* [[Home by Christmas|Home by Harvest]]: One reason they "liked"(in a manner of speaking) phalanx fighting was that it got the war over for a year instead of spending a drawn out period raiding each other.
* [[Home Guard]]: The phalanx was specifically acclimated to this. It's ponderous nature kept it from being used for subtleties but it was a giant thing that [[Mighty Glacier| rolled over everything in it's path]] and for a while little could stop it except another phalanx. Thus it equalized things for farmers who did not wish to [[Aristocrats Are Evil|pay protection]] to a trained warrior class. Spartans curiously incorporated the phalanx into a regular army.
* [[Let's Fight Like Gentlemen]]: It was a common lament during the Peleponesian War that new weapons and tactics had made the manly phalanx fighting obsolete.
* [[Let's Fight Like Gentlemen]]: It was a common lament during the Peleponesian War that new weapons and tactics had made the manly phalanx fighting obsolete.
* [[Love Potion]] (Eros's arrows)
* [[Love Potion]] (Eros's arrows)
* [[Lucid Dream]]: The Greeks are aware of lucid dreaming. [[Aristotle]], wrote in "[http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/dreams.1b.txt On Dreams]"
{{quote|...often when one is asleep, there is something in consciousness which declares that what then presents itself is but a dream.}}
* [[Our Dwarves Are Different]]: According to historian Victor Davis Hanson they were usually about five foot tall, and while they preferred a track star build as an image of male beauty usually had knotted muscles from pushing plows. They went into battle lugging tons of armor and, well, just look at [[Socrates]]. In other words they were [[Fridge Logic|Dwarves.]] On the other hand they did not live underground, they were great sailors, and were famous for philosophy and art. So maybe they were [[Fridge Brilliance|both elves and Dwarves?]]
* [[Physical God]]
* [[Physical God]]
* [[Salt the Earth]]: Zig-zagged. Invading armies would certainly go after the enemies agriculture if seldom using actual salt. However the project was much to difficult and what they were really doing was holding the land hostage to get their enemies to come out and fight, because land was held to equal liberty in sanctity.
* [[The Spartan Way]]
* [[The Spartan Way]]
* [[Training From Hell]]
* [[Training from Hell]]
* [[The Wrongful Heir to the Throne]]: In the Classical Period there were few kings but many cities were ruled by Tyrants. Tyrant in the original terminology did not just mean someone like Hitler or Stalin(although these would certainly match as both were prepared to use violence to get to the top) but someone who ruled through [[Asskicking Equals Authority]]. Several of these were actually fairly good rulers [[Fair for Its Day|for their time]] and no worse then kings and the Greeks just used the word as a description rather then a slur. Perhaps the best rendering is "warlord" although that carries bad connotations today as well unless used ironically. But Greeks though they did not like war normally, had a more ambiguous and less negative attitude toward waging [[War for Fun and Profit]] then modern people.
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=== Series set in this time period are ===


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== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==
== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==
* ''[[Historie]]''
* ''[[Historie]]''
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* ''[[300|Three Hundred]]''
* ''[[300|Three Hundred]]''
* ''[[Clash of the Titans]]'' and ''[[Jason and the Argonauts]]'' -- [[Harryhausen Movie]]s.
* ''[[Clash of the Titans]]'' and ''[[Jason and the Argonauts]]'' -- [[Harryhausen Movie]]s.
* ''[[Hercules (Disney film)|Hercules]]''
* ''[[Hercules (1997 film)|Hercules]]''
* ''[[Troy]]''
* ''[[Troy]]''


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* ''[[The Aeneid]]''
* ''[[The Aeneid]]''
* ''[[The Metamorphoses]]''
* ''[[The Metamorphoses]]''
* [[Terry Pratchett]] 's ''[[Discworld/Pyramids|Pyramids]]'' and ''[[Discworld/Small Gods|Small Gods]]'' both feature Ephebe, an [[Affectionate Parody]] of Athens and her philosophers, while ''[[Discworld/Eric|Eric]]'' (as well as the videogame ''[[Discworld Noir]]'') touches on the [[Trojan War]].
* [[Terry Pratchett]] 's ''[[Pyramids]]'' and ''[[Small Gods]]'' both feature Ephebe, an [[Affectionate Parody]] of Athens and her philosophers, while ''[[Eric]]'' (as well as the video game ''[[Discworld Noir]]'') touches on the [[Trojan War]].
* [[Gene Wolfe]]'s ''[[Soldier of the Mist]]'' and ''Soldier of Arete'' tell the story of a mercenary in Xerces' army who does something to offend the gods, and is cursed with forgetting everything that happens more than a day ago, but who can see the gods. [[Gene Wolfe|Wolfe]] "translates" place names (for example, [[The Spartan Way|Sparta]] is "Rope", and they fought the "Great King" at "Hot Springs"), lending a sense of immediacy, and distancing the book from the familiarity of the trope.
* [[Gene Wolfe]]'s ''[[Soldier of the Mist]]'' and ''Soldier of Arete'' tell the story of a mercenary in Xerces' army who does something to offend the gods, and is cursed with forgetting everything that happens more than a day ago, but who can see the gods. [[Gene Wolfe|Wolfe]] "translates" place names (for example, [[The Spartan Way|Sparta]] is "Rope", and they fought the "Great King" at "Hot Springs"), lending a sense of immediacy, and distancing the book from the familiarity of the trope.
* ''The Firebrand'' by [[Marion Zimmer Bradley]].
* ''The Firebrand'' by [[Marion Zimmer Bradley]].
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== [[Live Action TV]] ==
== [[Live-Action TV]] ==
* ''[[Hercules: The Legendary Journeys]]''
* ''[[Hercules: The Legendary Journeys]]''
* ''[[Xena: Warrior Princess]]'': Though the series is ''also'' happening at the time of [[Ancient Rome]]. The writers never tried to respect chronology.
* ''[[Xena: Warrior Princess]]'': Though the series is ''also'' happening at the time of [[Ancient Rome]]. The writers never tried to respect chronology.
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* ''[[Kid Icarus]]''
* ''[[Kid Icarus]]''
* ''[[Empire Earth]]''
* ''[[Empire Earth]]''
* ''[[Age of Empires I (Video Game)|Age of Empires I]]'', as well as ''[[Age of Mythology]]''; also, ''[[Rise of Nations]]'' has a tour through the "Classical Age"
* ''[[Age of Empires (video game)|Age of Empires I]]'', as well as ''[[Age of Mythology]]''; also, ''[[Rise of Nations]]'' has a tour through the "Classical Age"
* The ''[[Civilization]]'' series when playing as Greece.
* The ''[[Civilization]]'' series when playing as Greece.
* The first two games in the ''[[Hegemony Series]]''.
* The first two games in the ''[[Hegemony Series]]''.
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* ''[http://www.bigheadpress.com/otr Odysseus the Rebel]''
* ''[http://www.bigheadpress.com/otr Odysseus the Rebel]''
* ''[http://prometheuscomic.wordpress.com/ Prometheus!]''
* ''[http://prometheuscomic.wordpress.com/ Prometheus!]''
* ''[http://amazoness.co.uk Amazoness!]''
* ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20180721220127/http://amazoness.co.uk/ Amazoness!]''
* ''[[Rumors of War]]'': Somewhere between the Late Bronze Age and the Classical Period, presumably in the Greek Dark Ages.
* ''[[Rumors of War]]'': Somewhere between the Late Bronze Age and the Classical Period, presumably in the Greek Dark Ages.
* In ''[[Sluggy Freelance]]'', this is seemingly where the Holiday figures (Santa Claus, Tom Turkey, etc.) got their origins.
* In ''[[Sluggy Freelance]]'', this is seemingly where the Holiday figures (Santa Claus, Tom Turkey, etc.) got their origins.


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Latest revision as of 17:27, 26 September 2023

Think of Crystal Spires and Togas, but without the crystal spires or the togas.

Home of columned temples, chiton-wearing gods, slinkily dressed goddesses, amazons, and bearded philosophers. Also home to mythic thong-wearing heroes who ride winged horses and do great deeds (all without getting either chafed or sunburnt). The Spartans live here too, and they're known for their brutal training methods, stylish slow-motion fighting techniques and for being manly enough to charge nearly naked into battle even when outnumbered 70 to 1. And they definitely aren't gay. Frequently confused with Ancient Rome by directors who just don't care.

In fact, this picture is a blend of two distinct periods; mythical Greece, conventionally said to end with the Trojan War around 1000BC, and classical Greece, home to the first philosophers. The "classical Greece" period itself tends to blend cultures that evolved and combined over the course of many centuries. Until Athens pulled the city-states together for defense against Persia, Greece didn't have a monolithic culture; it was the sum of the cultures of many independent city-states, all angling to make their patron gods the most important, and all ultimately blended together in the giant food processor of history. If you were to visit the Balkan Peninsula in, say, Pythagoras' day, you'd find that religious practices and social mores varied heavily depending on what city you were in.

Popular tropes that feature this time period are
  • Achilles' Heel
  • Achilles in His Tent
  • Action Girl (Artemis, Atalanta, Athena, the Amazons...)
  • An Aesop
  • Badass Army: The Spartans.
  • Bigger Is Better in Bed: Inverted to Tartarus and back. A small wang was a sign of virility, while being hung like a horse was just plain silly looking to them!
    • Though played straight with Priapus, a Greek god of fertility, who sported such a monster, and in fact is the source of the medical term for an unnaturally long-lasting erection. However Priapus' erection is also seen as a symbol of his incredibly boorish and vulgar nature, and all the other gods scorn him.
  • Cassandra Truth
  • Erastes Eromenos
  • Everyone Is Armed: Downplayed. Slaves, women, and foreign visitors weren't and just lugging a sword around town in the middle of the day wasn't always polite. But the franchise tended to be associated with the possession of weapons. Indeed in Athens there was a long controversy over whether naval rowers should be enfranchised as they clearly were contributing to the common defense, but they were not decked out like honorable hoplites, did not own their own weapons, and did not have enough land to prove they would be interested in the survival of a state that guarded it. With all those complications, being armed was considered part and parcel of being a citizen
  • Fatal Flaw
  • Forever War: War was at first a seasonal activity although Greeks preferred to have one battle a year and then adjust each cities turf accordingly so they could get back to their crops. After the Persian invasion showed them what war was like when an absolutist monarch imposed his ideas of war on it war became more bitter and all pervasive.
  • Home by Harvest: One reason they "liked"(in a manner of speaking) phalanx fighting was that it got the war over for a year instead of spending a drawn out period raiding each other.
  • Home Guard: The phalanx was specifically acclimated to this. It's ponderous nature kept it from being used for subtleties but it was a giant thing that rolled over everything in it's path and for a while little could stop it except another phalanx. Thus it equalized things for farmers who did not wish to pay protection to a trained warrior class. Spartans curiously incorporated the phalanx into a regular army.
  • Let's Fight Like Gentlemen: It was a common lament during the Peleponesian War that new weapons and tactics had made the manly phalanx fighting obsolete.
  • Love Potion (Eros's arrows)
  • Lucid Dream: The Greeks are aware of lucid dreaming. Aristotle, wrote in "On Dreams"

...often when one is asleep, there is something in consciousness which declares that what then presents itself is but a dream.

  • Our Dwarves Are Different: According to historian Victor Davis Hanson they were usually about five foot tall, and while they preferred a track star build as an image of male beauty usually had knotted muscles from pushing plows. They went into battle lugging tons of armor and, well, just look at Socrates. In other words they were Dwarves. On the other hand they did not live underground, they were great sailors, and were famous for philosophy and art. So maybe they were both elves and Dwarves?
  • Physical God
  • Salt the Earth: Zig-zagged. Invading armies would certainly go after the enemies agriculture if seldom using actual salt. However the project was much to difficult and what they were really doing was holding the land hostage to get their enemies to come out and fight, because land was held to equal liberty in sanctity.
  • The Spartan Way
  • Training from Hell
  • The Wrongful Heir to the Throne: In the Classical Period there were few kings but many cities were ruled by Tyrants. Tyrant in the original terminology did not just mean someone like Hitler or Stalin(although these would certainly match as both were prepared to use violence to get to the top) but someone who ruled through Asskicking Equals Authority. Several of these were actually fairly good rulers for their time and no worse then kings and the Greeks just used the word as a description rather then a slur. Perhaps the best rendering is "warlord" although that carries bad connotations today as well unless used ironically. But Greeks though they did not like war normally, had a more ambiguous and less negative attitude toward waging War for Fun and Profit then modern people.

Series set in this time period include:

Anime and Manga

  • Historie
  • So far, alluded to in Axis Powers Hetalia though Herakles/Greece's as yet unseen mother, Mama Greece. It's also implied that she eventually became the Byzantine Empire...only for her to die in Turkey's hands.


Comic Books


Film


Literature


Live-Action TV


Theater


Video Games


Web Comics