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{{quote|''"TVTropes is allegedly a site where people look at the common tropes found in the media. What TVTropes does not do is actually analyze anything and it has mostly become a toxic community of constant fanboy wanking. Come, tell your horror stories."''|Fuck No TVTropes's description}}
{{quote|''"TVTropes is allegedly a site where people look at the common tropes found in the media. What TVTropes does not do is actually analyze anything and it has mostly become a toxic community of constant fanboy wanking. Come, tell your horror stories."''|Fuck No TVTropes's description}}
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* [[Future Imperfect]]: Bogleech jokingly hopes that a thousand years into the future, [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/122960771786/there-are-more-pages-on-tvtropes-about-different archaeologists won't view Twilight Sparkle and Rainbow Dash] as some sort of Ancient [[Mesopotamian Mythology|Mesopotamian Gods]] because of the abundance of TV Tropes' articles on MLP's different fanfiction genres.
* [[Future Imperfect]]: Bogleech jokingly hopes that a thousand years into the future, [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/122960771786/there-are-more-pages-on-tvtropes-about-different archaeologists won't view Twilight Sparkle and Rainbow Dash] as some sort of Ancient [[Mesopotamian Mythology|Mesopotamian Gods]] because of the abundance of TV Tropes' articles on MLP's different fanfiction genres.
* [[Insane Troll Logic]]: The blog frequently lampoons the lengths some users go to in order to justify adding certain examples, as well as other examples of tropes being seriously out of touch with reality. Highlights include [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/128415692786/just-when-i-think-ive-found-the-last-of-tv-tropes a theory that claimed] the "obvious" existence of [[Twincest]] [[Incest Subtext|Subtext]] between Violet and Klaus from ''[[A Series of Unfortunate Events]]''.
* [[Insane Troll Logic]]: The blog frequently lampoons the lengths some users go to in order to justify adding certain examples, as well as other examples of tropes being seriously out of touch with reality. Highlights include [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/128415692786/just-when-i-think-ive-found-the-last-of-tv-tropes a theory that claimed] the "obvious" existence of [[Twincest]] [[Incest Subtext|Subtext]] between Violet and Klaus from ''[[A Series of Unfortunate Events]]''.
** [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/98327113931/per-your-request-mod-note-i-dont-even-know "Actually, being groped is good because you were attractive enough to warrant being molested!"] ''Dear God.''
** [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/98327113931/per-your-request-mod-note-i-dont-even-know "Actually, being groped is good because you were attractive enough to warrant being molested!"] And this was supposed to get them to ''open up''. Dear God, where to begin.
* [[Kill It with Fire]]: [http://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/138352497236/so-apparently-edwin-epps-raping-his-slave-patsey The author's reaction to TV Tropes categorizing] Edwin Epps raping his slave Patsey in ''[[Twelve Years a Slave]]'' as "[[Villainous Crush]]", instead of [[Rape Is a Special Kind of Evil]].
* [[Kill It with Fire]]: [http://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/138352497236/so-apparently-edwin-epps-raping-his-slave-patsey The author's reaction to TV Tropes categorizing] Edwin Epps raping his slave Patsey in ''[[Twelve Years a Slave]]'' as "[[Villainous Crush]]", instead of [[Rape Is a Special Kind of Evil]].
** Bogleech's answer when [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/73325934622/ asked if he'd fire a paticular mod]:
** Bogleech's answer when [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/73325934622/ asked if he'd fire a paticular mod]:
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* [[La Résistance]]: The author's reaction when [http://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/93344308716/a-few-weeks-months-back-after-somebody-asked the blog got its own TV Tropes page, surviving more than some months] and [http://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/93372064151/holy-crap-go-to-the-history-tab-for-you-blogs Fast Eddie cleaned post up a bit, leaving the blog's criticism intact].
* [[La Résistance]]: The author's reaction when [http://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/93344308716/a-few-weeks-months-back-after-somebody-asked the blog got its own TV Tropes page, surviving more than some months] and [http://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/93372064151/holy-crap-go-to-the-history-tab-for-you-blogs Fast Eddie cleaned post up a bit, leaving the blog's criticism intact].
{{quote|''"Viva la revolución."''}}
{{quote|''"Viva la revolución."''}}
* [[Nostalgia Filter]]: When asked who would be insane to put ''[[Duke Nukem]]'' in the [[Fair for Its Day]] examples, Bogleech answered its tropers who are blinded by the nostalgia filter.
* [[Nostalgia Filter]]: Another common criticism of example placement, and cited in particular in response to someone asking who would be insane enough to place ''[[Duke Nukem]]'' on the [[Fair for Its Day]] page.<!--Should grab a link for this too-->
* [[Orphaned Series]]: The blog was inactive since the last ask answered in March 2016. In March of 2019, [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/183144173441/update Mark posted a final update] that clarified why he'd abandoned the blog: as much fun as he'd had taking the site down a peg, he eventually realized that, in his opinion, he was holding the site up to a standard it could never truly meet, and had more productive things to invest his time in.
* [[Orphaned Series]]: The blog has been inactive since the last ask answered in March 2016. In March of 2019, [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/183144173441/update Mark posted a final update] that clarified why he'd abandoned the blog: as much fun as he'd had taking the site down a peg, he eventually realized that, in his opinion, he was holding the site up to a standard it could never truly meet, and had more productive things to invest his time in.
* [[Pet the Dog]]: In spite of criticizing it as well, the blog has recommended All The Tropes as an alternative to the site multiple times. The FAQ also states not to vandalize TVTropes pages, instead giving tips on how to actually improve the site and provide actual analysis.
* [[Pet the Dog]]: In spite of criticizing it as well, the blog has recommended All The Tropes as an alternative to the site multiple times. The FAQ also states not to vandalize TVTropes pages, instead giving tips on how to actually improve the site and provide actual analysis.
** The author acknowledges when TVT realizes that [http://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/126764370923/ill-be-fair-at-least-tv-tropes-realizes-they underage characters were ending up in the "Memetic Sex God" and that they have to do huge cleanups].
** The author acknowledges when TVT realizes that [http://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/126764370923/ill-be-fair-at-least-tv-tropes-realizes-they underage characters were ending up in the "Memetic Sex God" and that they have to do huge cleanups].
{{quote|MOD Note: Shimaspawn's doing God's work right now.}}
{{quote|MOD Note: Shimaspawn's doing God's work right now.}}
** Bogleech reminds those that have issues with TV Tropes to just leave criticism at Fighteer's [[YouTube]] videos, not '''death threats'''. [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/76300982742/fighteer Also, '''Stay away from his son'''].
** Bogleech reminds those that have issues with TV Tropes to just leave criticism at Fighteer's [[YouTube]] videos, not '''death threats'''. [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/76300982742/fighteer Also, '''stay away from his son'''].
* [[Self-Insert Fic]]: Mentioned in response to an anonymous ask [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/133416731577/the-fact-that-people-like-this-actually-exist-kind stating that "the misanthropic and moronic power fantasies of teenagers will always be with us"], likely as a joke based on the misconception that such "cringy" writing did not exist in those times.
* [[Self-Insert Fic]]: An anonymous asker [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/133416731577/the-fact-that-people-like-this-actually-exist-kind stating that "the misanthropic and moronic power fantasies of teenagers will always be with us"] gets a reply joking about the Library of Alexandria's destruction in this manner, likely also as a play on the misconception that such "cringy" writing could only exist in modern times.
{{quote|"Think of it this way: Now that the Library of Alexandria is gone, we don't have to read Sappho's self-insert [[Greek Mythology]] shipping fan fics.}}
{{quote|"Think of it this way: Now that the Library of Alexandria is gone, we don't have to read Sappho's self-insert [[Greek Mythology]] shipping fan fics.}}
* [[Unperson]]: TVTropes has banned any and all mentions of the blog.
* [[Unperson]]: TVTropes has banned any and all mentions of the blog.

Revision as of 11:20, 22 September 2019


"TVTropes is allegedly a site where people look at the common tropes found in the media. What TVTropes does not do is actually analyze anything and it has mostly become a toxic community of constant fanboy wanking. Come, tell your horror stories."
—Fuck No TVTropes's description

Fuck No TVTropes is a Tumblr blog that mostly serves as a community submission blog of things others find horrible about TV Tropes. All The Tropes had also caught their attention and has been criticized whenever applicable as well.[1] The blog author, Bogleech, and Mark (who was the blog's moderator), did occasionally make posts of their own.

The blog is now long-abandoned, with the most recent post being from March 2016, though most if not all of the posts have survived the great "cleanup" of Tumblr in December 2018.

Fuck No TVTropes provides examples of the following tropes:

"I was so much of a weeaboo back in high school that my parents sent me to a camp run by Marcus Bachmann to make me normal. Now I'm more casual."

"Congrats, new mods. You're much more competent at website layout than the old mods."

  • Brain Bleach / "No. Just... No" Reaction: A common reaction to the subjects of several posts, particularly the fact that TV Tropes' Incest Subtext and Incest Yay Shipping pages once had Real Life sections.
  • Brutal Honesty: The blog author does not sugarcoat anything. If the troping world does something wrong/horrible, it will be called on it in no uncertain terms.
  • Criticizes Everyone Equally: They also do not play favorites. Whenever a troping website does something horrible, it will be called out, this one included. Mark in particular notes that he made the blog for "people who do like TV Tropes and feel like there's something that needs to be fixed or for people who have been hurt by the community," and kept it submission-based for the purpose of acting as a 'pseudo-mediator' and watchdog.
    • Bile Fascination: Specifically averted, as Mark doesn't want to come off as "a weirdo who spends all day chronicling each and every single thing wrong with the site."
  • Damned By Faint Praise: The blog author, after being asked if there's anything he likes about TV Tropes, has this to say.

I suppose a good aspect would be how they kept all the subpages on the top of the pages. That way you won’t have to go through the entire article looking for a link to their character page.

  • Deadpan Snarker: Many of the conversations and responses by the author (BogLeech) and the moderator, as well as several of the submissions.

"...If you stare into the abyss of DeviantART, it stares back."

"It means that my list of priorities goes like this: 1. Dinosaurs 2. Pokémon 3. RuPaul's Drag Race 4. Shitty Fan Fiction 5. My personal appearance 6. Everything else."

"I'd probably go all Tabula Rasa on it and fire everyone. I have never heard one good story about any mod on TV Tropes, period."

"Viva la revolución."

  • Nostalgia Filter: Another common criticism of example placement, and cited in particular in response to someone asking who would be insane enough to place Duke Nukem on the Fair for Its Day page.
  • Orphaned Series: The blog has been inactive since the last ask answered in March 2016. In March of 2019, Mark posted a final update that clarified why he'd abandoned the blog: as much fun as he'd had taking the site down a peg, he eventually realized that, in his opinion, he was holding the site up to a standard it could never truly meet, and had more productive things to invest his time in.
  • Pet the Dog: In spite of criticizing it as well, the blog has recommended All The Tropes as an alternative to the site multiple times. The FAQ also states not to vandalize TVTropes pages, instead giving tips on how to actually improve the site and provide actual analysis.

MOD Note: Shimaspawn's doing God's work right now.

"Think of it this way: Now that the Library of Alexandria is gone, we don't have to read Sappho's self-insert Greek Mythology shipping fan fics.

  • Unperson: TVTropes has banned any and all mentions of the blog.
  1. And when the criticism was valid and not just "tropers are icky", we have addressed matters.