Fuck No TVTropes
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"TVTropes is allegedly a site where people look at the common tropes found in the media. What TVTropes does not do is actually analyze anything and it has mostly become a toxic community of constant fanboy wanking. Come, tell your horror stories." —Fuck No TVTropes's description
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Fuck No TVTropes is a Tumblr blog that mostly serves as a community submission blog of things others find horrible about TV Tropes. All The Tropes had also caught their attention and has been criticized whenever applicable as well.[1] The blog author, Bogleech, and Mark (who was the blog's moderator), did occasionally make posts of their own.
The blog is now long-abandoned, with the most recent post being from March 2016, though most if not all of the posts have survived the great "cleanup" of Tumblr in December 2018.
- Abusive Parents: Joked about when Bogleech answered a question about how he became a casual anime watcher.
"I was so much of a weeaboo back in high school that my parents sent me to a camp run by Marcus Bachmann to make me normal. Now I'm more casual." |
- Accentuate the Negative: Per the blog's nature and title, though in spite of the vitriol it's far from exclusively negative, and isn't above the occasional note of praise. See Pet the Dog below in particular.
- Aesop Amnesia: When Inspector Spacetime made it to TV Tropes's High Octane Nightmare Fuel page, FNTVT noted that the tropers didn't learn their lesson from the Ugly Barnacle incident.
- Better Than New: When TV Tropes came under new ownership, they made some tweaks and design changes to improve the layout of the site. This resulted in Bogleech giving them some rare praise:
"Congrats, new mods. You're much more competent at website layout than the old mods." |
- Brain Bleach: Numerous examples:
- TV Tropes' Incest Subtext and Incest Yay Shipping pages had Real Life sections.
- Another example insisted that Violet and Klaus working together to survive their evil uncle's traps counts as "incest subtext".
- The Rugrats page of TV Tropes had a ridiculous yet detailed entry about Phil and Lil's "Incest Subtext." Starting to notice a pattern?
- "Actually, being groped is good because you were attractive enough to warrant being molested!" Dear God.
- One unfortunate sod dove too deep into the Fetish Fuel side of TV Tropes, and begged for death. Bogleech also ventured to TV Tropes's My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic Fetish Fuel pages, and well...:
"Five seconds, I've been on the page for five seconds. And do you know what I see? Without even having to scroll down?THE ABYSS. THE ABYSS IS STARING AT ME." |
- Brutal Honesty: The blog author does not sugarcoat anything. If the troping world does something wrong/horrible, it will be called on it in no uncertain terms.
- Criticizes Everyone Equally: They also do not play favorites. Whenever a troping website does something horrible, it will be called out, this one included. Mark in particular notes that he made the blog for "people who do like TV Tropes and feel like there's something that needs to be fixed or for people who have been hurt by the community," and kept it submission-based for the purpose of acting as a 'pseudo-mediator' and watchdog while avoiding coming off as "a weirdo who spends all day chronicling each and every single thing wrong with the site."
- Damned By Faint Praise: The blog author, after being asked if there's anything he likes about TV Tropes, has this to say.
I suppose a good aspect would be how they kept all the subpages on the top of the pages. That way you won’t have to go through the entire article looking for a link to their character page. |
- Deadpan Snarker: Many of the conversations and responses by the author (bogleech) and the moderator, as well as several of the submissions.
"...If you stare into the abyss of DeviantART, it stares back." |
- Did Not Do the Research: Bogleech notes that he should look up things more often before replying to asks after a series of posts concerning Hyperdimension Neptunia. He didn't trust the art style, and the series had been inaccurately characterized as porn, prompting him to look into it and learn that it was just a moe anthropomorphism of game consoles having adventures that was incredibly fanservicey at worst.
- Everyone Has Standards: When asked to make a cousin to "Fuck No TV Tropes" about DeviantArt's darkness, Bogleech refused, stating that "he'll die after three posts" and that many have tried.
- Mark also displayed a similar lack of interest in the blog's FAQ, stating that dA and other sites have a way to avoid the worse segments of their communities (with the implication that doing a similar blog would mean actively searching for them); due to TVTropes and its nature as a wiki, the worst parts of the site are more likely to show at the forefront and thus reflect poorly on everyone involved - that, and he'd also probably "be dead within a few weeks" if he tried a similar blog for dA.
- Everything's Better with Dinosaurs: Bogleech loves him some dinos.
"It means that my list of priorities goes like this: 1. Dinosaurs 2. Pokémon 3. RuPaul's Drag Race 4. Shitty Fan Fiction 5. My personal appearance 6. Everything else." |
- Feminists: Both Bogleech, the creator/author, and the blog's only mod, Mark, stated that they consider themselves as such.
- Future Imperfect: Bogleech hopes that a thousand years into the future, archaeologists won't view Twilight Sparkle and Rainbow Dash as some sort of Ancient Mesopotamian Gods, because of the abundance of TV Tropes' articles on MLP's different fanfiction genres.
- Kill It with Fire: The author's reaction to TV Tropes categorizing Edwin Epps raping his slave Patsey in Twelve Years a Slave as "Villainous Crush", instead of Rape Is a Special Kind of Evil.
- Bogleech's answer when asked if he'd fire a paticular mod:
"I'd probably go all Tabula Rasa on it and fire everyone. I have never heard one good story about any mod on TV Tropes, period." |
- La Résistance: The author's reaction when the blog got its own TV Tropes page, surviving more than some months and Fast Eddie cleaned post up a bit, leaving the blog's criticism intact.
"Viva la revolución." |
- Nostalgia Filter: When asked who would be insane to put Duke Nukem in the Fair for Its Day examples, Bogleech answered its tropers who are blinded by the nostalgia filter.
- Orphaned Series: The blog was inactive since the last ask answered in March 2016. In March of 2019, Mark posted a final update that clarified why he'd abandoned the blog: as much fun as he'd had taking the site down a peg, he eventually realized that, in his opinion, he was holding the site up to a standard it could never truly meet, and had more productive things to invest his time in.
- Pet the Dog: In spite of criticizing it as well, the blog has recommended All The Tropes as an alternative to the site multiple times. The FAQ also states not to vandalize TVTropes pages, instead giving tips on how to actually improve the site and provide actual analysis.
- The author acknowledges when TVT realizes that underage characters were ending up in the "Memetic Sex God" and that they have to do huge cleanups.
MOD Note: Shimaspawn's doing God's work right now. |
- Bogleech reminds those that have issues with TV Tropes to just leave criticism at Fighteer's YouTube videos, not death threats. Also, Stay away from his son.
- Self-Insert Fic: Mentioned in response to an anonymous ask stating that "the misanthropic and moronic power fantasies of teenagers will always be with us", likely as a joke based on the misconception that such "cringy" writing did not exist in those times.
"Think of it this way: Now that the Library of Alexandria is gone, we don't have to read Sappho's self-insert Greek Mythology shipping fan fics. |
- Unperson: TVTropes has banned any and all mentions of the blog.
- ↑ And when the criticism was valid and not just "tropers are icky", we have addressed matters.