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* [[Sliding Scale of Antagonist Vileness|How much the audience is supposed to hate them.]]
* [[Sliding Scale of Antagonist Vileness|How much the audience is supposed to hate them.]]


This is a method of quantifying the second one.
This is a method of quantifying the second one.


Note that this does not cover any degree of sympathy; rather, it covers how probable their success is. To expand on this scale's orthogonality to the other two: it is entirely possible for a [[Complete Monster]] to fall at 'credible' or even 'low' on this scale (for example, a monster who is merely chief [[The Dragon|henchmen]] to, say, Ming The Merciless); and it is possible to have a villain who bats at the level of [[Superman]], but is so dumb that most of his threat comes from the fact that his plans will inevitably fail in a spectacular way.
Note that this does not cover any degree of sympathy; rather, it covers how probable their success is. To expand on this scale's orthogonality to the other two: it is entirely possible for a [[Complete Monster]] to fall at 'credible' or even 'low' on this scale (for example, a monster who is merely chief [[The Dragon|henchmen]] to, say, Ming The Merciless); and it is possible to have a villain who bats at the level of [[Superman]], but is so dumb that most of his threat comes from the fact that his plans will inevitably fail in a spectacular way.
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'''{{color|green|Low:}}''' [[Villain Ball|The villain can be safely allowed]] to [[Hoist by His Own Petard|foil their own scheme.]]
'''{{color|green|Low:}}''' [[Villain Ball|The villain can be safely allowed]] to [[Hoist by His Own Petard|foil their own scheme.]]
* [[Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain]], [[No One Respects the Spanish Inquisition]], [[Villainous Harlequin]]
* [[Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain]], [[No One Respects the Spanish Inquisition]], [[Villainous Harlequin]]
* ''Examples:'' Dr. Drakken from ''[[Kim Possible]]'', ''[[Invader Zim]]'', [[Jackie Chan Adventures|The Dark Hand]], many villains written by [[Dean Koontz]], [[Phineas and Ferb|Dr. Doofenshmirtz]], the [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic/Recap/S1 E19 A Dog and Pony Show|Diamond Dogs]].
* ''Examples:'' Dr. Drakken from ''[[Kim Possible]]'', ''[[Invader Zim]]'', [[Jackie Chan Adventures|The Dark Hand]], many villains written by [[Dean Koontz]], [[Phineas and Ferb|Dr. Doofenshmirtz]], the [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic/Recap/S1/E19 A Dog and Pony Show|Diamond Dogs]].


'''{{color|gold|Credible:}}''' [[Evil Overlord List|Rarely succeeds]], but only because heroes take action.
'''{{color|gold|Credible:}}''' [[Evil Overlord List|Rarely succeeds]], but only because heroes take action.

Revision as of 07:00, 31 December 2014

An antagonist can be classed on three orthogonal parameters:

This is a method of quantifying the second one.

Note that this does not cover any degree of sympathy; rather, it covers how probable their success is. To expand on this scale's orthogonality to the other two: it is entirely possible for a Complete Monster to fall at 'credible' or even 'low' on this scale (for example, a monster who is merely chief henchmen to, say, Ming The Merciless); and it is possible to have a villain who bats at the level of Superman, but is so dumb that most of his threat comes from the fact that his plans will inevitably fail in a spectacular way.

Further, please do not add in Villainous organizations, groups, or nations to the Examples section at High or Infinite levels, and be particularly aware of Fan Myopia.


None: The villain succeeded in his evil scheme, but it wasn't destroying the world at all, it was... to step on a flower?!? Or alternatively, there's no villain at all.

Low: The villain can be safely allowed to foil their own scheme.

Credible: Rarely succeeds, but only because heroes take action.

Inadvertent: May succeed without realizing it, so heroes must be especially cautious.

High: Almost always succeeds when not thwarted by a hero and have a decent number of victories under their belt, expect them to get a secondary goal completed even when they lose.

Infinite: The villain will always win, and the heroes will always lose, even if the heroes should by all rights win. This may be due to the villain being truly all powerful, or the heroes being utterly incapable of confronting them in the first place, let alone stopping them. At best, the heroes could delay or annoy the villain, but the villain will triumph in the end regardless and the heroes must evade or escape the villain now that its goals are met.