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== Films ==
== Films ==
* Morticia in ''[[The Addams Family]]'' films lives this trope.
* Morticia in ''[[The Addams Family]]'' films lives this trope.
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* Jabba and Boussh in ''[[Return of the Jedi]]'':
* Jabba and Boussh in ''[[Return of the Jedi]]'':
{{quote|'''Jabba:''' "[[Evil Laugh|Hohoho!]] This bounty hunter is my kind of scum! Fearless and inventive!"}}
{{quote|'''Jabba:''' "[[Evil Laugh|Hohoho!]] This bounty hunter is my kind of scum! Fearless and inventive!"}}



== Literature ==
== Literature ==
* ''[[Dexter]]'' greatly admires the artistic merits of the Ice Truck Killer's scenes. In the second book, he also admits to respecting the spoke of turning people into "yodeling potatoes".
* ''[[Dexter]]'' greatly admires the artistic merits of the Ice Truck Killer's scenes. In the second book, he also admits to respecting the spoke of turning people into "yodeling potatoes".
* In ''Discworld'' book ''[[Discworld/Mort|Mort]]'' a dying [[Evil Vizier]] takes this trope up to eleven: he compliments the emperor for killing ''him''.
* In the ''[[Discworld]]'' book ''[[Mort, Murder, and Admiration|Mort]]'' a dying [[Evil Vizier]] takes this trope up to eleven: he compliments the emperor for killing ''him''.



== Live Action TV ==
== Live-Action TV ==
* ''[[Dexter]]'' again (this time only the TV show) admits, at least at first, that he admires Trinity for his success in maintaining the life he's led. Partially subverted in that Dexter still has every intention of KILLING him, but not before he can learn how to do the same with his own life.
* ''[[Dexter]]'' again (this time only the TV show) admits, at least at first, that he admires Trinity for his success in maintaining the life he's led. Partially subverted in that Dexter still has every intention of KILLING him, but not before he can learn how to do the same with his own life.
** Judging from how fondly he refers to a lot of his victims ("playmates"), Dexter has a lot of this going on. It's just that he kills killers and [[Nothing Personal|they are, well, killers]].
** Judging from how fondly he refers to a lot of his victims ("playmates"), Dexter has a lot of this going on. It's just that he kills killers and [[Nothing Personal|they are, well, killers]].
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{{quote|Bishop: You fiend! Never have I encountered such corrupt and foul-minded perversity! Have you ever considered a career in the Church?}}
{{quote|Bishop: You fiend! Never have I encountered such corrupt and foul-minded perversity! Have you ever considered a career in the Church?}}


== Professional Wrestling ==

== Pro Wrestling ==
* Used occasionally, such as when, after being betrayed by his tag-team partner Christian in a Battle Royal for the Intercontinental belt, Chris Jericho called him out...to congratulate him, and tell him he would have done the exact same thing if he'd thought of it. Then they hug. Awww.
* Used occasionally, such as when, after being betrayed by his tag-team partner Christian in a Battle Royal for the Intercontinental belt, Chris Jericho called him out...to congratulate him, and tell him he would have done the exact same thing if he'd thought of it. Then they hug. Awww.


== [[Real Life]] ==
* After [[This Means War|Pearl Harbor]] [[Adolf Hitler]] was so pleased that he declared Japanese to be "honorary Aryans". He also declared war on the United States in support. The second was [[What an Idiot!|not his brightest idea]].
** Although the [[America Wins the War|US]] didn't have an impressive army back then. Actually, conscription was the only way to get an army of any significance together. Well, [[History Marches On|that's one thing that has changed!]]



== Web Comics ==
== Web Comics ==
* ''[[8-Bit Theater|Eight Bit Theater]]'' has Evil Princess Sara be "this close" to being proud of Garland after he got a villain upgrade with dark colored [[Speech Bubble]]. He's still a [[Nice Guy|nice]], [[Harmless Villain|Harmless]], [[Affably Evil]] [[Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain]] though, which explains the almost.
* ''[[8-Bit Theater]]'' has Evil Princess Sara be "this close" to being proud of Garland after he got a villain upgrade with dark colored [[Speech Bubble]]. He's still a [[Nice Guy|nice]], [[Harmless Villain|Harmless]], [[Affably Evil]] [[Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain]] though, which explains the almost.
* Inverted in ''[[Looking for Group]]'', where [[Omnicidal Maniac|Richard]] is criticized on not being evil enough.
* Inverted in ''[[Looking for Group]]'', where [[Omnicidal Maniac|Richard]] is criticized on not being evil enough.
** Well, it ''was'' by a [[Kangaroo Court]] set up by [[The Legions of Hell]]...
** Well, it ''was'' by a [[Kangaroo Court]] set up by [[The Legions of Hell]]...
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* In ''[[Tales From the Pit]]'', [http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/5867433154 Mark Rosewater receives hate-mail] from an angry ''[[Magic: The Gathering|Magic]]'' player who accuses him of having "sytematically destroyed everything that was awesome about ''Magic''" immediately before asking how to get a job in R&D.
* In ''[[Tales From the Pit]]'', [http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/5867433154 Mark Rosewater receives hate-mail] from an angry ''[[Magic: The Gathering|Magic]]'' player who accuses him of having "sytematically destroyed everything that was awesome about ''Magic''" immediately before asking how to get a job in R&D.


== [[Video Games]] ==
* In ''[[Disgaea: Hour of Darkness]],'' [[Disgaea: Hour of Darkness/Characters|Etna]] uses [[Villain Protagonist]] [[Disgaea: Hour of Darkness/Characters|Laharl]] as bait to get what she wants from [[Big Bad Wannabe]] Maderas, without either of them knowing. After Laharl finds out what Etna's intentions were, does he get angry at her for using him? ...no, he compliments her on how devious she is and [[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming|promotes her to his right hand demon]].
* Due to their lack of any actual morality, some Asurans in ''[[Guild Wars]]'' come off as somewhat evil. In one case the actions of the Asuran Tekks has instigated a war between two aboriginal frog-tribes. Her rival, Giriff, comments he would be impressed if he thought she'd done it on purpose.

== Web Original ==
* Inverted on ''[[Red vs. Blue]]'': while Sarge is glad that O'Malley is killing all the Blues, he can't stand the thought that he now has a higher body count.


== Western Animation ==
== Western Animation ==
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* On ''[[Jimmy Two-Shoes]]'', after [[The Caligula|Lucius]] is woken up in the middle of the night:
* On ''[[Jimmy Two-Shoes]]'', after [[The Caligula|Lucius]] is woken up in the middle of the night:
{{quote|'''Lucius:''' ''Someone is causing misery? At this hour? How productive!''}}
{{quote|'''Lucius:''' ''Someone is causing misery? At this hour? How productive!''}}
* During the "Identity Crisis" episode of ''[[Re Boot]]'', after Sirus had stolen a file containing the PIDs for a sector under Megabyte's control:
* During the "Identity Crisis" episode of ''[[ReBoot]]'', after Sirus had stolen a file containing the PIDs for a sector under Megabyte's control:
{{quote|'''[[Magnificent Bastard|Megabyte]]:''' What you did was slimy, contemptible and down right distasteful. I loved it!}}
{{quote|'''[[Magnificent Bastard|Megabyte]]:''' What you did was slimy, contemptible and downright distasteful. I loved it!}}


== [[Real Life]] ==

* After [[This Means War|Pearl Harbor]], [[Adolf Hitler]] was so pleased that he declared Japanese to be "honorary Aryans". He also declared war on the United States in support. The second was [[What an Idiot!|not his brightest idea]].
== [[Video Games]] ==
** Although the [[America Wins the War|US]] didn't have an impressive army back then. Actually, conscription was the only way to get an army of any significance together. Well, [[History Marches On|that's one thing that has changed!]]
* In ''[[Disgaea: Hour of Darkness]],'' [[Disgaea: Hour of Darkness/Characters|Etna]] uses [[Villain Protagonist]] [[Disgaea: Hour of Darkness/Characters|Laharl]] as bait to get what she wants from [[Big Bad Wannabe]] Maderas, without either of them knowing. After Laharl finds out what Etna's intentions were, does he get angry at her for using him? ...no, he compliments her on how devious she is and [[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming|promotes her to his right hand demon]].
*** America's Army size was of limited advantage. Panzers cannot swim. And that calculation would have been based on present size when the future expansion was most important. Furthermore America's navy (which could of course cross the ocean) was top-of-the-line and the German navy, except for commerce raiders, was kind of not.
* Due to their lack of any actual morality, some Asurans in ''[[Guild Wars]]'' come off as somewhat evil. In one case the actions of the Asuran Tekks has instigated a war between two aboriginal frog-tribes. Her rival, Giriff, comments he would be impressed if he thought she'd done it on purpose.


== Web Original ==
* Inverted on ''[[Red vs. Blue]]'': while Sarge is glad that O'Malley is killing all the Blues, he can't stand the thought that he now has a higher body count.


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Latest revision as of 21:51, 25 October 2023

When two villainous (or at least, Token Evil) characters fight, the less evil one will rail about how Even Evil Has Standards, they've crossed the Moral Event Horizon and what they've done is unforgivable... and it was a nice touch to put lasers on the carnivorous hamsters' heads.

Mostly a comedy trope, this shows up as an inversion of Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking with one villain complimenting another on how Stylish their Death Trap, Evil Plan, Villainous Monologue, Evil Laugh, Villain Song, or they themselves are.

It won't stop them from fighting it out, but credit where credit is due.

If it's a Villain Team-Up, the Card Carrying Villains will often compliment their allies/rivals for their evilness. Compare Arson, Murder, and Lifesaving. Compare In Love with Your Carnage when a villain falls in love with a hero due to the hero's violence. Contrast Insult Backfire. If a hero or other non-villain is on the receiving end, this becomes Your Approval Fills Me with Shame or just Baddie Flattery.

Examples of Arson, Murder, and Admiration include:

Films

  • Morticia in The Addams Family films lives this trope.
    • In the first movie, Morticia compliments the man stretching her on the rack (who is sweating over the evil deed) as "having done this before". She also believes that she and the female antagonist could have been good friends were it not for the current unpleasantness.
    • The second film has the following exchanges between Morticia and Debbie:

Morticia: You have enslaved him. You have placed Fester under some strange sexual spell. I respect that. But please, may we see him?
[later]
Morticia: You have gone too far. You have married Fester, you have destroyed his spirit, you have taken him from us. All that I could forgive. But Debbie...
Debbie: What?
Morticia: ... pastels?

Drebin (undercover as a gangster, to the Big Bad's mother): Mrs. Dillon, your son is a ruthless, sadistic, cold-blooded animal. You must be very proud of him.
Muriel Dillon: I am.

Jabba: "Hohoho! This bounty hunter is my kind of scum! Fearless and inventive!"

Literature

  • Dexter greatly admires the artistic merits of the Ice Truck Killer's scenes. In the second book, he also admits to respecting the spoke of turning people into "yodeling potatoes".
  • In the Discworld book Mort a dying Evil Vizier takes this trope up to eleven: he compliments the emperor for killing him.

Live-Action TV

  • Dexter again (this time only the TV show) admits, at least at first, that he admires Trinity for his success in maintaining the life he's led. Partially subverted in that Dexter still has every intention of KILLING him, but not before he can learn how to do the same with his own life.
    • Judging from how fondly he refers to a lot of his victims ("playmates"), Dexter has a lot of this going on. It's just that he kills killers and they are, well, killers.
  • In Leverage, after Nate cons his dad into a situation where the Irish mob puts a contract out on him:

"You're more ruthless than me, crueler than me. Maybe you are better than me. I'm proud of you son."

  • Blackadder II features one after Blackadder blackmails the Baby-Eating Bishop of Bath and Wells who "drowns babies at their christening and eats them in the vestry afterwards" by arranging some very compromising paintings.

Bishop: You fiend! Never have I encountered such corrupt and foul-minded perversity! Have you ever considered a career in the Church?

Professional Wrestling

  • Used occasionally, such as when, after being betrayed by his tag-team partner Christian in a Battle Royal for the Intercontinental belt, Chris Jericho called him out...to congratulate him, and tell him he would have done the exact same thing if he'd thought of it. Then they hug. Awww.

Web Comics

Video Games

  • In Disgaea: Hour of Darkness, Etna uses Villain Protagonist Laharl as bait to get what she wants from Big Bad Wannabe Maderas, without either of them knowing. After Laharl finds out what Etna's intentions were, does he get angry at her for using him? ...no, he compliments her on how devious she is and promotes her to his right hand demon.
  • Due to their lack of any actual morality, some Asurans in Guild Wars come off as somewhat evil. In one case the actions of the Asuran Tekks has instigated a war between two aboriginal frog-tribes. Her rival, Giriff, comments he would be impressed if he thought she'd done it on purpose.

Web Original

  • Inverted on Red vs. Blue: while Sarge is glad that O'Malley is killing all the Blues, he can't stand the thought that he now has a higher body count.

Western Animation

  • In the old Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon, Shredder and Krang would occasionally compliment each other's evilness (when they weren't getting on each other's nerves). Other villains also got some praise for their evil plans from time to time.

Shredder: Then you shall have the robot. I vow it!
Krang: Cross your heart and hope to die?
Shredder: What heart?
Krang: Shredder, you're my kind of guy!

Lucius: Someone is causing misery? At this hour? How productive!

  • During the "Identity Crisis" episode of ReBoot, after Sirus had stolen a file containing the PIDs for a sector under Megabyte's control:

Megabyte: What you did was slimy, contemptible and downright distasteful. I loved it!

Real Life

  • After Pearl Harbor, Adolf Hitler was so pleased that he declared Japanese to be "honorary Aryans". He also declared war on the United States in support. The second was not his brightest idea.
    • Although the US didn't have an impressive army back then. Actually, conscription was the only way to get an army of any significance together. Well, that's one thing that has changed!
      • America's Army size was of limited advantage. Panzers cannot swim. And that calculation would have been based on present size when the future expansion was most important. Furthermore America's navy (which could of course cross the ocean) was top-of-the-line and the German navy, except for commerce raiders, was kind of not.