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(Undo revision 1727618 by Legume (talk) Just because they don't meet your personal standard of Squick doesn't make them NOT potential examples. On the OTHER it's possible they could be moved elsewhere rather than deleted outright, given that the reaction seems to be common)
(Reconciling some of the examples - the Rugrats one never showed proof (since it was an ask tbf), and while it probably exists, it's not worth the insane amount of digging required to unearth it for SEVERAL reasons. So that can go. Some of the examples are fairly standard Brain Bleach reactions (and expected, because lol Fetish Fuel Wiki), so they can go too.)
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{{quote|''"TVTropes is allegedly a site where people look at the common tropes found in the media. What TVTropes does not do is actually analyze anything and it has mostly become a toxic community of constant fanboy wanking. Come, tell your horror stories."''
{{quote|''"TVTropes is allegedly a site where people look at the common tropes found in the media. What TVTropes does not do is actually analyze anything and it has mostly become a toxic community of constant fanboy wanking. Come, tell your horror stories."''|Fuck No TVTropes's description}}
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'''[http://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/ Fuck No TVTropes]''' is a [[Tumblr]] blog that mostly serves as a community submission blog of things others find horrible about TV Tropes. [[All The Tropes]] had also caught their attention and has been criticized whenever applicable as well.<ref>And when the criticism was valid and not just "tropers are icky", we have addressed matters.</ref> The blog author, Bogleech, and Mark (who was the blog's moderator), did occasionally make posts of their own.
'''[http://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/ Fuck No TVTropes]''' is a [[Tumblr]] blog that mostly serves as a community submission blog of things others find horrible about TV Tropes. [[All The Tropes]] had also caught their attention and has been criticized whenever applicable as well.<ref>And when the criticism was valid and not just "tropers are icky", we have addressed matters.</ref> The blog author, Bogleech, and Mark (who was the blog's moderator), did occasionally make posts of their own.
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* [[Better Than New]]: When TV Tropes came under new ownership, they made some tweaks and design changes to improve the layout of the site. [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/107561454101/you-know-what-i-looks-a-lot-better-than-the-old This resulted in Bogleech giving them some rare praise]:
* [[Better Than New]]: When TV Tropes came under new ownership, they made some tweaks and design changes to improve the layout of the site. [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/107561454101/you-know-what-i-looks-a-lot-better-than-the-old This resulted in Bogleech giving them some rare praise]:
{{quote|''"Congrats, new mods. You're much more competent at website layout than the old mods."''}}
{{quote|''"Congrats, new mods. You're much more competent at website layout than the old mods."''}}
* [[Brain Bleach]] / [[No Just No]]: A common reaction to the subjects of several posts. Among various other examples, TV Tropes' [[Incest Subtext]] and [[Incest Yay Shipping]] pages once had [[Real Life]] [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/96665242876/pages-like-incest-subtext-and-incest-yay-shipping sections].
* [[Brain Bleach]]: Numerous examples:
** TV Tropes' [[Incest Subtext]] and [[Incest Yay Shipping]] pages had [[Real Life]] [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/96665242876/pages-like-incest-subtext-and-incest-yay-shipping sections].
** [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/128415692786/just-when-i-think-ive-found-the-last-of-tv-tropes Another example insisted that] [[Series of Unfortunate Events|Violet and Klaus working together to survive their evil uncle's traps]] [[Insane Troll Logic|counts as "incest subtext".]]
** The ''[[Rugrats]]'' page of TV Tropes had a ridiculous yet detailed entry about [http://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/119862598177/so-i-was-looking-at-the-main-page-on-rugrats-its Phil and Lil's "Incest Subtext."] Starting to notice a pattern?
** [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/98327113931/per-your-request-mod-note-i-dont-even-know "Actually, being groped is good because you were attractive enough to warrant being molested!"] ''Dear God.''
** One unfortunate sod dove too deep into the Fetish Fuel side of TV Tropes, [http://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/119949366645/please-kill-me-ive-been-to-the-fetish-fuel-wiki and begged for death]. Bogleech also ventured to TV Tropes's ''[[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic]]'' Fetish Fuel pages, and well...:
{{quote|''"Five seconds, I've been on the page for five seconds. And do you know what I see? Without even having to scroll down?[https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/106640630096/five-seconds-ive-been-on-the-page-for-five THE ABYSS. THE ABYSS IS STARING AT ME]."''}}
* [[Brutal Honesty]]: The blog author does not sugarcoat anything. If the troping world does something wrong/horrible, it will be called on it in no uncertain terms.
* [[Brutal Honesty]]: The blog author does not sugarcoat anything. If the troping world does something wrong/horrible, it will be called on it in no uncertain terms.
* [[Hates Everyone Equally|Criticizes Everyone Equally]]: They also do not play favorites. Whenever a troping website does something horrible, it will be called out, this one included. [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/115678160350/ Mark in particular notes] that he made the blog for "people who do like TV Tropes and feel like there's something that needs to be fixed or for people who have been hurt by the community," and kept it submission-based for the purpose of acting as a 'pseudo-mediator' and watchdog while avoiding coming off as [[Bile Fascination|"a weirdo who spends all day chronicling each and every single thing wrong with the site."]]
* [[Hates Everyone Equally|Criticizes Everyone Equally]]: They also do not play favorites. Whenever a troping website does something horrible, it will be called out, this one included. [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/115678160350/ Mark in particular notes] that he made the blog for "people who do like TV Tropes and feel like there's something that needs to be fixed or for people who have been hurt by the community," and kept it submission-based for the purpose of acting as a 'pseudo-mediator' and watchdog.
** [[Bile Fascination]]: Specifically averted, as Mark doesn't want to come off as "a weirdo who spends all day chronicling each and every single thing wrong with the site."
* [[Damned By Faint Praise]]: The blog author, after being asked if there's anything he likes about TV Tropes, has this to say.<!--Source for this would be nice-->
* [[Damned By Faint Praise]]: The blog author, after being asked if there's anything he likes about TV Tropes, has this to say.<!--Source for this would be nice-->
''{{quote|I suppose a good aspect would be how they kept all the subpages on the top of the pages. That way you won’t have to go through the entire article looking for a link to their character page.}}''
''{{quote|I suppose a good aspect would be how they kept all the subpages on the top of the pages. That way you won’t have to go through the entire article looking for a link to their character page.}}''
* [[Deadpan Snarker]]: Many of the conversations and responses by the author (bogleech) and the moderator, as well as several of the submissions.
* [[Deadpan Snarker]]: Many of the conversations and responses by the author (BogLeech) and the moderator, as well as several of the submissions.
{{quote|''"...If you stare into the abyss of DeviantART, it stares back."''}}
{{quote|''"...If you stare into the abyss of DeviantART, it stares back."''}}
* [[Did Not Do the Research]]: Bogleech notes that he should look up things more often before replying to asks after a series of posts concerning ''[[Hyperdimension Neptunia]]''. [http://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/133412842579/honestly-neptunia-isnt-creepy-loli-anime He didn't trust the art style, and the series had been inaccurately characterized as porn], prompting him to look into it and learn that it was just a [[Moe Anthropomorphism|moe anthropomorphism]] of game consoles having adventures that was incredibly [[fanservice]]y at worst.
* [[Did Not Do the Research]]: Bogleech notes that he should look up things more often before replying to asks; this came after a series of posts concerning ''[[Hyperdimension Neptunia]]''. [http://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/133412842579/honestly-neptunia-isnt-creepy-loli-anime He didn't trust the art style, and the series had been inaccurately characterized as porn], prompting him to look into it and learn that it was just a [[Moe Anthropomorphism|moe anthropomorphism]] of game consoles having adventures that was incredibly [[fanservice]]y at worst.
* [[Everyone Has Standards]]: When asked to make a cousin to "Fuck No TV Tropes" about [[DeviantArt]]'s [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/115679608680/oh-do-make-a-blog-similar-to-this-one-about darkness], Bogleech refused, stating that "he'll die after three posts" and that many have tried.
* [[Everyone Has Standards]]: When asked to make a cousin to "Fuck No TV Tropes" about [[DeviantArt]]'s [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/115679608680/oh-do-make-a-blog-similar-to-this-one-about darkness], Bogleech refused, stating that "he'll die after three posts" and that many have tried.
** Mark also displayed a similar lack of interest [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/faq in the blog's FAQ], stating that dA and other sites have a way to avoid the worse segments of their communities (with the implication that doing a similar blog would mean [[Bile Fascination|actively searching for them]]); due to TVTropes and its nature as a wiki, the worst parts of the site are more likely to show at the forefront and thus reflect poorly on ''everyone'' involved - that, and he'd also probably "be dead within a few weeks" if he tried a similar blog for dA.
** Mark also displayed a similar lack of interest; [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/faq in the blog's FAQ], he states that dA and other sites have a way to avoid the worse segments of their communities (with the implication that doing a similar blog would mean [[Bile Fascination|actively searching for them]]). Due to TVTropes and its nature as a wiki, the products of the site's worst are more likely to be shown at the forefront, and thus reflect poorly on ''everyone'' involved. That, and he'd also probably "be dead within a few weeks" if he tried a similar blog for dA.
* [[Everything's Better with Dinosaurs]]: [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/111669651449/what-does-pro-dinosaur-even-mean Bogleech loves him some dinos.]
* [[Everything's Better with Dinosaurs]]: [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/111669651449/what-does-pro-dinosaur-even-mean Bogleech loves him some dinos.]
{{quote|''"It means that my list of priorities goes like this: 1. Dinosaurs 2. [[Pokémon]] 3. RuPaul's Drag Race 4. Shitty Fan Fiction 5. My personal appearance 6. Everything else."''}}
{{quote|''"It means that my list of priorities goes like this: 1. Dinosaurs 2. [[Pokémon]] 3. RuPaul's Drag Race 4. Shitty Fan Fiction 5. My personal appearance 6. Everything else."''}}
* [[Fan Wank]]: A major focus of the blog's criticisms.
* [[Feminism|Feminists]]: Both Bogleech, the creator/author, and the blog's only mod, Mark, stated that they [http://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/122963674906/how-many-mods-run-this-blog-do-they-consider consider themselves as such].
* [[Feminism]]: Both Bogleech, the creator/author, and the blog's only mod, Mark, stated that they [http://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/122963674906/how-many-mods-run-this-blog-do-they-consider consider themselves feminists].
* [[Future Imperfect]]: Bogleech hopes that a thousand years into the future, [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/122960771786/there-are-more-pages-on-tvtropes-about-different archaeologists won't view Twilight Sparkle and Rainbow Dash] as some sort of Ancient [[Mesopotamian Mythology|Mesopotamian Gods]], because of the abundance of TV Tropes' articles on MLP's different fanfiction genres.
* [[Future Imperfect]]: Bogleech jokingly hopes that a thousand years into the future, [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/122960771786/there-are-more-pages-on-tvtropes-about-different archaeologists won't view Twilight Sparkle and Rainbow Dash] as some sort of Ancient [[Mesopotamian Mythology|Mesopotamian Gods]] because of the abundance of TV Tropes' articles on MLP's different fanfiction genres.
* [[Insane Troll Logic]]: The blog frequently lampoons the lengths some users go to in order to justify adding certain examples, as well as other examples of tropes being seriously out of touch with reality. Highlights include [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/128415692786/just-when-i-think-ive-found-the-last-of-tv-tropes a theory that claimed] the "obvious" existence of [[Twincest]] [[Incest Subtext|Subtext]] between Violet and Klaus from ''[[A Series of Unfortunate Events]]''.
** [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/98327113931/per-your-request-mod-note-i-dont-even-know "Actually, being groped is good because you were attractive enough to warrant being molested!"] ''Dear God.''
* [[Kill It with Fire]]: [http://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/138352497236/so-apparently-edwin-epps-raping-his-slave-patsey The author's reaction to TV Tropes categorizing] Edwin Epps raping his slave Patsey in ''[[Twelve Years a Slave]]'' as "[[Villainous Crush]]", instead of [[Rape Is a Special Kind of Evil]].
* [[Kill It with Fire]]: [http://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/138352497236/so-apparently-edwin-epps-raping-his-slave-patsey The author's reaction to TV Tropes categorizing] Edwin Epps raping his slave Patsey in ''[[Twelve Years a Slave]]'' as "[[Villainous Crush]]", instead of [[Rape Is a Special Kind of Evil]].
** Bogleech's answer when [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/73325934622/ asked if he'd fire a paticular mod]:
** Bogleech's answer when [https://fucknotvtropes.tumblr.com/post/73325934622/ asked if he'd fire a paticular mod]:

Revision as of 05:46, 22 September 2019


"TVTropes is allegedly a site where people look at the common tropes found in the media. What TVTropes does not do is actually analyze anything and it has mostly become a toxic community of constant fanboy wanking. Come, tell your horror stories."
—Fuck No TVTropes's description

Fuck No TVTropes is a Tumblr blog that mostly serves as a community submission blog of things others find horrible about TV Tropes. All The Tropes had also caught their attention and has been criticized whenever applicable as well.[1] The blog author, Bogleech, and Mark (who was the blog's moderator), did occasionally make posts of their own.

The blog is now long-abandoned, with the most recent post being from March 2016, though most if not all of the posts have survived the great "cleanup" of Tumblr in December 2018.

Fuck No TVTropes provides examples of the following tropes:

"I was so much of a weeaboo back in high school that my parents sent me to a camp run by Marcus Bachmann to make me normal. Now I'm more casual."

"Congrats, new mods. You're much more competent at website layout than the old mods."

  • Brain Bleach / No Just No: A common reaction to the subjects of several posts. Among various other examples, TV Tropes' Incest Subtext and Incest Yay Shipping pages once had Real Life sections.
  • Brutal Honesty: The blog author does not sugarcoat anything. If the troping world does something wrong/horrible, it will be called on it in no uncertain terms.
  • Criticizes Everyone Equally: They also do not play favorites. Whenever a troping website does something horrible, it will be called out, this one included. Mark in particular notes that he made the blog for "people who do like TV Tropes and feel like there's something that needs to be fixed or for people who have been hurt by the community," and kept it submission-based for the purpose of acting as a 'pseudo-mediator' and watchdog.
    • Bile Fascination: Specifically averted, as Mark doesn't want to come off as "a weirdo who spends all day chronicling each and every single thing wrong with the site."
  • Damned By Faint Praise: The blog author, after being asked if there's anything he likes about TV Tropes, has this to say.

I suppose a good aspect would be how they kept all the subpages on the top of the pages. That way you won’t have to go through the entire article looking for a link to their character page.

  • Deadpan Snarker: Many of the conversations and responses by the author (BogLeech) and the moderator, as well as several of the submissions.

"...If you stare into the abyss of DeviantART, it stares back."

"It means that my list of priorities goes like this: 1. Dinosaurs 2. Pokémon 3. RuPaul's Drag Race 4. Shitty Fan Fiction 5. My personal appearance 6. Everything else."

"I'd probably go all Tabula Rasa on it and fire everyone. I have never heard one good story about any mod on TV Tropes, period."

"Viva la revolución."

  • Nostalgia Filter: When asked who would be insane to put Duke Nukem in the Fair for Its Day examples, Bogleech answered its tropers who are blinded by the nostalgia filter.
  • Orphaned Series: The blog was inactive since the last ask answered in March 2016. In March of 2019, Mark posted a final update that clarified why he'd abandoned the blog: as much fun as he'd had taking the site down a peg, he eventually realized that, in his opinion, he was holding the site up to a standard it could never truly meet, and had more productive things to invest his time in.
  • Pet the Dog: In spite of criticizing it as well, the blog has recommended All The Tropes as an alternative to the site multiple times. The FAQ also states not to vandalize TVTropes pages, instead giving tips on how to actually improve the site and provide actual analysis.

MOD Note: Shimaspawn's doing God's work right now.

"Think of it this way: Now that the Library of Alexandria is gone, we don't have to read Sappho's self-insert Greek Mythology shipping fan fics.

  • Unperson: TVTropes has banned any and all mentions of the blog.
  1. And when the criticism was valid and not just "tropers are icky", we have addressed matters.