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Note that the below list is a very rough scale; any given character may fall higher or lower on this list depending on context, regardless of what tropes describe him. Many character types are very broad, so the positions below should represent an approximate average; some individual characters are subversions who turn out to be something significantly different from the stereotype of their type of villain.
Note that the below list is a very rough scale; any given character may fall higher or lower on this list depending on context, regardless of what tropes describe him. Many character types are very broad, so the positions below should represent an approximate average; some individual characters are subversions who turn out to be something significantly different from the stereotype of their type of villain.


An interesting feature of this is that the more [[Evil Tropes|''evil'']] a villain is the ''less'' vile he may appear to be, compared to other villains in the story, the logic being that a truly Despicable villain is someone we hate and revile, while a truly Evil villain is dangerous and to be feared- we care less about ''what'' happens to him and are satisfied that ''something'' does, if only to end his reign of terror.
An interesting feature of this is that the more [[Evil Tropes|''evil'']] a villain is the ''less'' vile he may appear to be, compared to other villains in the story, the logic being that a truly Despicable villain is someone we hate and revile, while a truly Evil villain is dangerous and to be feared- we care less about ''what'' happens to him and are satisfied that ''something'' does, if only to end his reign of terror.


See also [[Sliding Scale of Anti-Heroes]], for the bottom end of the Protagonist version of this list. See [[Likable Villain]] for a classification of reasons ''why'' not all villains are vile ones.
See also [[Sliding Scale of Anti-Heroes]], for the bottom end of the Protagonist version of this list. See [[Likable Villain]] for a classification of reasons ''why'' not all villains are vile ones.
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* [[Kick the Dog]] is a standard behavior for Ordinary Villainy and below, while those above it have an increasing chance to be seen with a [[Pet the Dog]] moment.
* [[Kick the Dog]] is a standard behavior for Ordinary Villainy and below, while those above it have an increasing chance to be seen with a [[Pet the Dog]] moment.
* A good [[Freudian Excuse]] may pull a villain upward on the scale, but [[Complete Monster|Complete Monsterdom]], by definition, means that no [[Freudian Excuse]] can absolve them; sometimes the villain is savvy enough to have an excuse and not care about it as well.
* A good [[Freudian Excuse]] may pull a villain upward on the scale, but [[Complete Monster|Complete Monsterdom]], by definition, means that no [[Freudian Excuse]] can absolve them; sometimes the villain is savvy enough to have an excuse and not care about it as well.
* A [[Visionary Villain]] can be of any degree of vileness, but always has a provocative goal and plans to achieve them.
* A [[Visionary Villain]] can be of any degree of vileness, but always has a provocative goal and plans to achieve them.
* [[Affably Evil]] characters average out near the bottom of [[Anti-Villain]] territory, but can be anything from a [[Hero with an F In Good]] to a [[Complete Monster]] [[Villain with Good Publicity|with gentlemanly manners]].
* [[Affably Evil]] characters average out near the bottom of [[Anti-Villain]] territory, but can be anything from a [[Hero with an F In Good]] to a [[Complete Monster]] [[Villain with Good Publicity|with gentlemanly manners]].
* A [[Villain with Good Publicity]] will tend to be lower than they normally would be because of their tendency to [[Karma Houdini|get away with their crimes]].
* A [[Villain with Good Publicity]] will tend to be lower than they normally would be because of their tendency to [[Karma Houdini|get away with their crimes]].
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* The [[Opposing Sports Team]] can be anywhere from the very top to the very bottom, though it's rare for them to go below [[Smug Snake]] status in less comedic stories.
* The [[Opposing Sports Team]] can be anywhere from the very top to the very bottom, though it's rare for them to go below [[Smug Snake]] status in less comedic stories.
* Beware of using [[The War On Straw|strawmen]] for blackening your villains; if the audience finds out, they'll often get pushed upwards further than you like, especially if they make an [[Straw Man Has a Point|especially good point]] or their belief system [[What Do You Mean It's Not Heinous?|isn't even that bad]].
* Beware of using [[The War On Straw|strawmen]] for blackening your villains; if the audience finds out, they'll often get pushed upwards further than you like, especially if they make an [[Straw Man Has a Point|especially good point]] or their belief system [[What Do You Mean It's Not Heinous?|isn't even that bad]].
* [[Villain Decay]], if especially humiliating or prolonged, will slowly cause a villain to float up to [[Harmless Villain]] if left unchecked; particularly powerful applications of this trope have even [[Badass Decay|wimpified]] otherwise [[Complete Monster|Complete Monsters]] such as [[8-Bit Theater (Webcomic)|Black Mage]] and [[Silence of the Lambs|Hannibal Lecter]].
* [[Villain Decay]], if especially humiliating or prolonged, will slowly cause a villain to float up to [[Harmless Villain]] if left unchecked; particularly powerful applications of this trope have even [[Badass Decay|wimpified]] otherwise [[Complete Monster|Complete Monsters]] such as [[8-Bit Theater|Black Mage]] and [[Silence of the Lambs|Hannibal Lecter]].
* If an antagonist is also holding the title of [[The Scrappy]], they can be pushed either upwards or downwards depending on what they're being hated for. Unfortunately even in the 'redeeming' case of this it won't reduce the audience's overall hatred towards them, just the perceived vileness component of that hatred.
* If an antagonist is also holding the title of [[The Scrappy]], they can be pushed either upwards or downwards depending on what they're being hated for. Unfortunately even in the 'redeeming' case of this it won't reduce the audience's overall hatred towards them, just the perceived vileness component of that hatred.
* A [[Knight of Cerebus]] almost never strays above [[Noble Demon]] in order to provide the sufficient seriousness needed for their [[Mood Whiplash]]--curiously, the only exception to this are [[Sadist Show|Sadist Shows]] that embrace their [[Black and Grey Morality]] which will often have a [[Hero Antagonist]] available as one to highlight [[Crapsack World|just how twisted things are]].
* A [[Knight of Cerebus]] almost never strays above [[Noble Demon]] in order to provide the sufficient seriousness needed for their [[Mood Whiplash]]--curiously, the only exception to this are [[Sadist Show|Sadist Shows]] that embrace their [[Black and Grey Morality]] which will often have a [[Hero Antagonist]] available as one to highlight [[Crapsack World|just how twisted things are]].

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An antagonist can be classed on three orthogonal parameters:

This is a method of quantifying that third one.

Note that the below list is a very rough scale; any given character may fall higher or lower on this list depending on context, regardless of what tropes describe him. Many character types are very broad, so the positions below should represent an approximate average; some individual characters are subversions who turn out to be something significantly different from the stereotype of their type of villain.

An interesting feature of this is that the more evil a villain is the less vile he may appear to be, compared to other villains in the story, the logic being that a truly Despicable villain is someone we hate and revile, while a truly Evil villain is dangerous and to be feared- we care less about what happens to him and are satisfied that something does, if only to end his reign of terror.

See also Sliding Scale of Anti-Heroes, for the bottom end of the Protagonist version of this list. See Likable Villain for a classification of reasons why not all villains are vile ones.


The sliding scale is roughly as follows:

Most Sympathetic

Least Sympathetic


Tropes that are orthogonal to this Scale, have too variable a position to be located specifically, or are position changing without having a particular position to call its own: