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{{quote|'''Dominic Greene:''' ''My friends call me Dominic.''<br />
{{quote|'''Dominic Greene:''' ''My friends call me Dominic.''
'''James Bond:''' ''I'm sure they do.''|''[[Quantum of Solace (Film)|Quantum of Solace]]''}}
'''James Bond:''' ''I'm sure they do.''|''[[Quantum of Solace]]''}}


When a character wants to make things a little less formal, perhaps to show how amicable and gracious he is, or just because he's laid back and being friendly, he might decide to [[Don't Call Me Sir|drop the formalities]] and invite others to use his first name, or even a nickname.
When a character wants to make things a little less formal, perhaps to show how amicable and gracious he is, or just because he's laid back and being friendly, he might decide to [[Don't Call Me "Sir"!|drop the formalities]] and invite others to use his first name, or even a nickname.


A common [[Subversion]] is for the other character to then pointedly abstain from using the more casual name, or for the first character to specify that while his ''friends'' call him that, the character they are ''talking to'' [[They Call Me Mr. Tibbs|shouldn't.]]
A common [[Subversion]] is for the other character to then pointedly abstain from using the more casual name, or for the first character to specify that while his ''friends'' call him that, the character they are ''talking to'' [[They Call Me Mister Tibbs|shouldn't.]]


A subtrope of [[Don't Call Me Sir]]. When subverted, often overlaps with [[They Call Me Mr. Tibbs]].
A subtrope of [[Don't Call Me "Sir"!]]. When subverted, often overlaps with [[They Call Me Mister Tibbs]].

{{examples|Examples}}


{{examples}}
== [[Comic Books]] ==
== [[Comic Books]] ==
* Gambit plays with this a little in [[X-Men (Comic Book)|Uncanny Xmen]]
* Gambit plays with this a little in ''[[X-Men (Comic Book)|Uncanny Xmen]]'':
{{quote| To my friends, [[Funetik Aksent|de name's]] Remy LeBeau. To my enemies, it's Gambit! You can go on ahead an' forget dat first name right about now.}}
{{quote|To my friends, [[Funetik Aksent|de name's]] Remy LeBeau. To my enemies, it's Gambit! You can go on ahead an' forget dat first name right about now.}}

== [[Fan Works]] ==
* Doug Sangnoir of ''[[Drunkard's Walk]]'' frequently extends these to the people he's reasonably close to, even if he's (temporarily) higher in a more formal hierarchy than they are. For instance, upon agreeing to train [[Sailor Moon|Usagi Tsukino]] in ''Drunkard's Walk S'':
{{quote|"So, what do I call you now? Sangnoir-sensei?"
I shrugged and had more sandwich. "I'm fine with you calling me 'Doug'. As for the honorific... 'Sensei', 'sempai', [[Japanese Sibling Terminology|'onii-san']], even 'jiji'<ref>"Gramps"</ref> are all okay by me -- your choice."}}


== [[Film]] ==
== [[Film]] ==
* Played with in ''[[Blazing Saddles]]''.
* Played with in ''[[Blazing Saddles]]''.
{{quote| '''Sheriff Bart:''' What's your name?<br />
{{quote|'''Sheriff Bart:''' What's your name?
'''The Waco Kid:''' Well, my name is Jim, but most people call me... Jim. }}
'''The Waco Kid:''' Well, my name is Jim, but most people call me... Jim. }}
* [[Ferris Buellers Day Off (Film)|Ferris Buellers Day Off]]:
* ''[[Ferris Bueller's Day Off]]'':
{{quote| '''Criminal Kid''': You didn't tell me your name.<br />
{{quote|'''Criminal Kid''': You didn't tell me your name.
'''Jeannie''': It's Jean, but a lot of guys call me Shauna.<br />
'''Jeannie''': It's Jean, but a lot of guys call me Shauna.
'''Criminal Kid''': Okay, Jean. }}
'''Criminal Kid''': Okay, Jean. }}
* From Disney's ''[[Hercules (Disney)|Hercules]]'':
* From Disney's ''[[Hercules (1997 film)|Hercules]]'':
{{quote| '''Megara:''' Megara. My friends call me Meg. At least they would if I had any friends.}}
{{quote|'''Megara:''' Megara. My friends call me Meg. At least they would if I had any friends.}}
* Invoked and promptly averted in ''[[Raising Arizona]]''.
* Invoked and promptly averted in ''[[Raising Arizona]]''.
{{quote| Leonard Smalls. My friends call me Lenny... but I ain't got no friends.}}
{{quote|Leonard Smalls. My friends call me Lenny... but I ain't got no friends.}}
* ''[[Robo Cop]] 3'' has another variation His ''friends'' call him Murphy, but the OCP executive can call him [[Robo Cop]].
* ''[[RoboCop]] 3'' has another variation His ''friends'' call him Murphy, but the OCP executive can call him [[RoboCop]].
* ''[[Quantum of Solace (Film)|Quantum of Solace]]'' included the quote above. Greene trying to act gracious, while Bond is being pretty blunt with the fact that he doesn't like him.
* ''[[Quantum of Solace]]'' included the quote above. Greene trying to act gracious, while Bond is being pretty blunt with the fact that he doesn't like him.
* From ''[[Zardoz]]'', when [[Sean Connery|Zed]] sees that Arthur Frayn aka Zardoz is [[Not Quite Dead]]:
* From ''[[Zardoz]]'', when [[Sean Connery|Zed]] sees that Arthur Frayn aka Zardoz is [[Not Quite Dead]]:
{{quote| '''Frayn:''' My Brutal friends call me Zardoz.<br />
{{quote|'''Frayn:''' My Brutal friends call me Zardoz.
(''Frayn stabs Zed with a collapsible knife'') }}
(''Frayn stabs Zed with a collapsible knife'') }}
* From ''[[Die Hard (Film)|Die Hard]]:''
* From ''[[Die Hard]]:''
{{quote| '''Hans Gruber:''' Touching, Cowboy, touching. Or should I call you, Mr. McClane? Mr. Officer John McClane of the New York Police Department? <br />
{{quote|'''Hans Gruber:''' Touching, Cowboy, touching. Or should I call you, Mr. McClane? Mr. Officer John McClane of the New York Police Department?
'''John McClane:''' Sister Teresa called me Mr. McClane in the third grade. My friends call me John, and you're neither, shithead. }}
'''John McClane:''' Sister Teresa called me Mr. McClane in the third grade. My friends call me John, and you're neither, shithead. }}
* Inverted in ''[[Real Genius (Film)|Real Genius]]''.
* Inverted in ''[[Real Genius]]''.
{{quote| '''Kent:''' Hello, Jerry!<br />
{{quote|'''Kent:''' Hello, Jerry!
'''Dr. Hathaway:''' I told you before, Kent: you don't get to use my first name. }}
'''Dr. Hathaway:''' I told you before, Kent: you don't get to use my first name. }}


== [[Literature]] ==
== [[Literature]] ==
* Commander Vimes from [[Discworld]] allows those he really, really likes to just call him "Mister Vimes".
* Commander Vimes from ''[[Discworld]]'' allows those he really, really likes to just call him "Mister Vimes".
** Also:
** Also:
{{quote| '''Vimes''': This is [[Obstructive Bureaucrat|Mr. A.E. Pessimal]], plain A.E. if he ever makes friends.}}
{{quote|'''Vimes''': This is [[Obstructive Bureaucrat|Mr. A.E. Pessimal]], plain A.E. if he ever makes friends.}}
** Discworld in general has a lot of fun with this.
:* Discworld in general has a lot of fun with this.
* From the ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]'' [[Virgin New Adventures|New Adventures]] novels, the Doctor's latest companion meets the Master for the first time: "Summerfield. Bernice Summerfield. My friends call me Benny, but you can call me Professor Summerfield."
* From the ''[[Doctor Who]]'' ''[[Virgin New Adventures|New Adventures]]'' novels, the Doctor's latest companion meets the Master for the first time: "Summerfield. Bernice Summerfield. My friends call me Benny, but you can call me Professor Summerfield."
* From ''[[The Dresden Files|Dead Beat]]'':
* From ''[[The Dresden Files]]'' novel ''Dead Beat'':
{{quote| '''Ramirez:''' Everyone else who lets me ride on their dinosaur calls me Carlos.}}
{{quote|'''Ramirez:''' Everyone else who lets me ride on their dinosaur calls me Carlos.}}
** The trope is very commonly subverted in ''The Dresden Files'' - Harry constantly corrects people (most often, Nicodemus Archleone and John Marcone) trying to call him that, insisting that they would never be his friends. He also [[Invoked Trope|does it himself]] all the time to grind people's gears, continuing to use first names after being explicitly told not to.
** The trope is very commonly subverted in ''The Dresden Files'' - Harry constantly corrects people (most often, Nicodemus Archleone and John Marcone) trying to call him that, insisting that they would never be his friends. He also [[Invoked Trope|does it himself]] all the time to grind people's gears, continuing to use first names after being explicitly told not to.


== [[Live Action TV]] ==
== [[Live-Action TV]] ==
* From the ''[[Criminal Minds (TV)|Criminal Minds]]'' episode, "Riding the Lightning."
* From the ''[[Criminal Minds]]'' episode, "Riding the Lightning."
{{quote| ''(JJ enters the room where Hotch is speaking with convicted serial killer Jacob)''<br />
{{quote|''(JJ enters the room where Hotch is speaking with convicted serial killer Jacob)''
'''Jacob:''' Oooh! Who are you?<br />
'''Jacob:''' Oooh! Who are you?
'''JJ:''' My friends call me JJ...<br />
'''JJ:''' My friends call me JJ...
'''Jacob:''' Well... hello, JJ!<br />
'''Jacob:''' Well... hello, JJ!
'''JJ:''' You're not my friend. You can call me Jennifer. }}
'''JJ:''' You're not my friend. You can call me Jennifer. }}
* ''[[The Dukes of Hazzard]]'': Boss Hogg uses his Speed Trap to stop any famous singers passing through. The fine is six months in jail or one song at the Boar's Nest. Tammy Wynette gets stopped, and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z-EU5Sx8-k sings for her freedom.] After the song the Dukes go up to her and congratulate her, each calling her Miss Wynette, to which she replies "you can call me Tammy." Then Boss Hogg steps up.
* ''[[The Dukes of Hazzard]]'': Boss Hogg uses his Speed Trap to stop any famous singers passing through. The fine is six months in jail or one song at the Boar's Nest. Tammy Wynette gets stopped, and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z-EU5Sx8-k sings for her freedom.] After the song the Dukes go up to her and congratulate her, each calling her Miss Wynette, to which she replies "you can call me Tammy." Then Boss Hogg steps up.
{{quote| '''Boss Hogg''': That fine performance of yours squares the fine on this speeding ticket, ''Tammy''.<br />
{{quote|'''Boss Hogg''': That fine performance of yours squares the fine on this speeding ticket, ''Tammy''.
'''Tammy''': [[They Call Me Mr. Tibbs|You can call me Miss Wynette.]] }}
'''Tammy''': [[They Call Me Mister Tibbs|You can call me Miss Wynette.]] }}
* In ''[[Saturday Night Live]]'''s "Hogwart's Academy" sketch in [[Lindsay Lohan]]'s episode, when Snape briefly gets [[Distracted By the Sexy|distracted by]] [[She's All Grown Up|Hermione's breasts]], he tells her to call him Severus. Then he snaps out of it and says to call him Professor Snape.
* In ''[[Saturday Night Live]]'''s "Hogwart's Academy" sketch in [[Lindsay Lohan]]'s episode, when Snape briefly gets [[Distracted by the Sexy|distracted by]] [[She's All Grown Up|Hermione's breasts]], he tells her to call him Severus. Then he snaps out of it and says to call him Professor Snape.
* ''[[I Claudius (TV)|I Claudius]]'': Castor, the nickname by which Drusus Julius Caesar is commonly known, invokes this with Sejanus.
* ''[[I, Claudius]]'': Castor, the nickname by which Drusus Julius Caesar is commonly known, invokes this with Sejanus.
{{quote|'''Sejanus''' ''"Ah, Castor, how nice to see you."''<br />
{{quote|'''Sejanus''' ''"Ah, Castor, how nice to see you."''
'''Castor''' ''"I'm Castor to my friends, Sejanus."''|''[[I Claudius (TV)|I Claudius]]'' "Some Justice"}}
'''Castor''' ''"I'm Castor to my friends, Sejanus."''|''[[I, Claudius]]'' "Some Justice"}}


== [[Music]] ==
== [[Music]] ==
* Singer [[Eric Bogle (Music)|Eric Bogle]] traditionally introduces himself in song at the start of a concert. One of the introduction songs goes:
* Singer [[Eric Bogle]] traditionally introduces himself in song at the start of a concert. One of the introduction songs goes:
{{quote| My name is Eric, some folk call me Eck,<br />
{{quote|''My name is Eric, some folk call me Eck,
Call me Ricky and I'll break your neck,<br />
''Call me Ricky and I'll break your neck,
If you're feeling formal, Mr Bogle will do,<br />
''If you're feeling formal, Mr Bogle will do,
But to my friends it's Eric, and I hope that means you. }}
''But to my friends it's Eric, and I hope that means you. }}

== [[Recorded and Stand Up Comedy]] ==
* In the 1970s, this became the trademark of comedian [[Bill Saluga]]'s "Raymond J. Johnson" persona:
{{quote|My name is Raymond J. Johnson, Junior. Now you can call me Ray, or you can call me Jay, or you can call me Johnny, or you can call me Sonny, or you can call me Junior; you can call me Ray J, you can call me RJ, you can call me RJJ. But you doesn't has to call me Johnson!}}


== [[Video Games]] ==
== [[Video Games]] ==
* From ''[[Deadly Premonition]]'':
* From ''[[Deadly Premonition]]'':
{{quote| '''York:''' FBI Special Agent Francis York Morgan. Please, just call me York. That's what everyone calls me.}}
{{quote|'''York:''' FBI Special Agent Francis York Morgan. Please, just call me York. That's what everyone calls me.}}
* Averted in the introductory level of ''[[Hitman|Hitman: Blood Money]]'', when the guard at the amusement park gate asks for 47's name.
* Averted in the introductory level of ''[[Hitman|Hitman: Blood Money]]'', when the guard at the amusement park gate asks for 47's name.
{{quote| '''47''': Names are for friends, so I don't need one.}}
{{quote|'''47''': Names are for friends, so I don't need one.}}
* From ''[[Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep|Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep]]'' Ventus is constantly saying
* From ''[[Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep]]'' Ventus is constantly saying
{{quote| '''Ventus:''' Call me Ven!}}
{{quote|'''Ventus:''' Call me Ven!}}


== [[Western Animation]] ==
== [[Western Animation]] ==
* From ''[[Phineas and Ferb]] [[The Movie|Across the Second Dimension]]'':
* From ''[[Phineas and Ferb]] [[The Movie|Across the Second Dimension]]'':
{{quote| '''[[Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain|Dr. Doofenshmirtz]]:''' And I'm Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz, but my friends call me... ''(trails off, sighs)'' [[Made Myself Sad|Man, I just got in such a funk]].}}
{{quote|'''[[Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain|Dr. Doofenshmirtz]]:''' And I'm Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz, but my friends call me... ''(trails off, sighs)'' [[Made Myself Sad|Man, I just got in such a funk]].}}
* ''[[Rankin Bass Productions|Rudolph's Shiny New Year]]'':
* The [[Rankin/Bass Productions|Rankin/Bass]] [[Holiday Special]] ''[[Rudolph's Shiny New Year]]'':
{{quote| I'm 1776, but my friends call me Sev. Will you be my friend?}}
{{quote|I'm 1776, but my friends call me Sev. Will you be my friend?}}
* ''[[The Simpsons]]'', when Homer and Flanders first meet:
* ''[[The Simpsons (animation)|The Simpsons]]'', when Homer and Flanders first meet:
{{quote| '''Ned Flanders:''' The handle says Flanders, but my friends call me Ned!<br />
{{quote|'''Ned Flanders:''' The handle says Flanders, but my friends call me Ned!
'''Homer Simpson:''' (''bored'') Hi, Flanders. }}
'''Homer Simpson:''' (''bored'') Hi, Flanders. }}
* ''[[South Park]]'', in the episode Damien.
* ''[[South Park]]'', in the episode "Damien".
{{quote| '''Pip''': My name is Philip, but the kids call me Pip because they hate me.<br />
{{quote|'''Pip''': My name is Philip, but the kids call me Pip because they hate me.
'''Damien''': Then I shall call you Pip.<br />
'''Damien''': Then I shall call you Pip.
'''Pip''': Right-o. }}
'''Pip''': Right-o. }}


== [[Real Life]] ==
== [[Real Life]] ==
* Comes up [[Don't Call Me Sir|from time to time]] in organizations with fairly rigid hierarchies, such as the armed forces. Depending on the organization, this is often officially prohibited in order to maintain discipline between the ranks.
* Comes up [[Don't Call Me "Sir"!|from time to time]] in organizations with fairly rigid hierarchies, such as the armed forces. Depending on the organization, this is often officially prohibited in order to maintain discipline between the ranks.
** This also becomes a subject of some [[Interservice Rivalry]] related ribbing, as different branches of the same service (such as the United States Army and the Air Force) may have different cultural attitudes towards this sort of thing.<ref> The US Air Force, for a variety of reasons, is seen as far more relaxed in this area than the Army, for instance.</ref>
** This also becomes a subject of some [[Interservice Rivalry]] related ribbing, as different branches of the same service (such as the United States Army and the Air Force) may have different cultural attitudes towards this sort of thing.<ref>The US Air Force, for a variety of reasons, is seen as far more relaxed in this area than the Army, for instance.</ref>


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Latest revision as of 13:53, 25 October 2022

Dominic Greene: My friends call me Dominic.

James Bond: I'm sure they do.

When a character wants to make things a little less formal, perhaps to show how amicable and gracious he is, or just because he's laid back and being friendly, he might decide to drop the formalities and invite others to use his first name, or even a nickname.

A common Subversion is for the other character to then pointedly abstain from using the more casual name, or for the first character to specify that while his friends call him that, the character they are talking to shouldn't.

A subtrope of Don't Call Me "Sir"!. When subverted, often overlaps with They Call Me Mister Tibbs.

Examples of Friendly Address Privileges include:

Comic Books

To my friends, de name's Remy LeBeau. To my enemies, it's Gambit! You can go on ahead an' forget dat first name right about now.

Fan Works

  • Doug Sangnoir of Drunkard's Walk frequently extends these to the people he's reasonably close to, even if he's (temporarily) higher in a more formal hierarchy than they are. For instance, upon agreeing to train Usagi Tsukino in Drunkard's Walk S:

"So, what do I call you now? Sangnoir-sensei?"
I shrugged and had more sandwich. "I'm fine with you calling me 'Doug'. As for the honorific... 'Sensei', 'sempai', 'onii-san', even 'jiji'[1] are all okay by me -- your choice."

Film

Sheriff Bart: What's your name?
The Waco Kid: Well, my name is Jim, but most people call me... Jim.

Criminal Kid: You didn't tell me your name.
Jeannie: It's Jean, but a lot of guys call me Shauna.
Criminal Kid: Okay, Jean.

Megara: Megara. My friends call me Meg. At least they would if I had any friends.

Leonard Smalls. My friends call me Lenny... but I ain't got no friends.

  • RoboCop 3 has another variation His friends call him Murphy, but the OCP executive can call him RoboCop.
  • Quantum of Solace included the quote above. Greene trying to act gracious, while Bond is being pretty blunt with the fact that he doesn't like him.
  • From Zardoz, when Zed sees that Arthur Frayn aka Zardoz is Not Quite Dead:

Frayn: My Brutal friends call me Zardoz.
(Frayn stabs Zed with a collapsible knife)

Hans Gruber: Touching, Cowboy, touching. Or should I call you, Mr. McClane? Mr. Officer John McClane of the New York Police Department?
John McClane: Sister Teresa called me Mr. McClane in the third grade. My friends call me John, and you're neither, shithead.

Kent: Hello, Jerry!
Dr. Hathaway: I told you before, Kent: you don't get to use my first name.

Literature

  • Commander Vimes from Discworld allows those he really, really likes to just call him "Mister Vimes".
    • Also:

Vimes: This is Mr. A.E. Pessimal, plain A.E. if he ever makes friends.

  • Discworld in general has a lot of fun with this.
  • From the Doctor Who New Adventures novels, the Doctor's latest companion meets the Master for the first time: "Summerfield. Bernice Summerfield. My friends call me Benny, but you can call me Professor Summerfield."
  • From The Dresden Files novel Dead Beat:

Ramirez: Everyone else who lets me ride on their dinosaur calls me Carlos.

    • The trope is very commonly subverted in The Dresden Files - Harry constantly corrects people (most often, Nicodemus Archleone and John Marcone) trying to call him that, insisting that they would never be his friends. He also does it himself all the time to grind people's gears, continuing to use first names after being explicitly told not to.

Live-Action TV

(JJ enters the room where Hotch is speaking with convicted serial killer Jacob)
Jacob: Oooh! Who are you?
JJ: My friends call me JJ...
Jacob: Well... hello, JJ!
JJ: You're not my friend. You can call me Jennifer.

  • The Dukes of Hazzard: Boss Hogg uses his Speed Trap to stop any famous singers passing through. The fine is six months in jail or one song at the Boar's Nest. Tammy Wynette gets stopped, and sings for her freedom. After the song the Dukes go up to her and congratulate her, each calling her Miss Wynette, to which she replies "you can call me Tammy." Then Boss Hogg steps up.

Boss Hogg: That fine performance of yours squares the fine on this speeding ticket, Tammy.
Tammy: You can call me Miss Wynette.

Sejanus "Ah, Castor, how nice to see you."

Castor "I'm Castor to my friends, Sejanus."
I, Claudius "Some Justice"

Music

  • Singer Eric Bogle traditionally introduces himself in song at the start of a concert. One of the introduction songs goes:

My name is Eric, some folk call me Eck,
Call me Ricky and I'll break your neck,
If you're feeling formal, Mr Bogle will do,
But to my friends it's Eric, and I hope that means you.

Recorded and Stand Up Comedy

  • In the 1970s, this became the trademark of comedian Bill Saluga's "Raymond J. Johnson" persona:

My name is Raymond J. Johnson, Junior. Now you can call me Ray, or you can call me Jay, or you can call me Johnny, or you can call me Sonny, or you can call me Junior; you can call me Ray J, you can call me RJ, you can call me RJJ. But you doesn't has to call me Johnson!

Video Games

York: FBI Special Agent Francis York Morgan. Please, just call me York. That's what everyone calls me.

  • Averted in the introductory level of Hitman: Blood Money, when the guard at the amusement park gate asks for 47's name.

47: Names are for friends, so I don't need one.

Ventus: Call me Ven!

Western Animation

Dr. Doofenshmirtz: And I'm Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz, but my friends call me... (trails off, sighs) Man, I just got in such a funk.

I'm 1776, but my friends call me Sev. Will you be my friend?

Ned Flanders: The handle says Flanders, but my friends call me Ned!
Homer Simpson: (bored) Hi, Flanders.

Pip: My name is Philip, but the kids call me Pip because they hate me.
Damien: Then I shall call you Pip.
Pip: Right-o.

Real Life

  • Comes up from time to time in organizations with fairly rigid hierarchies, such as the armed forces. Depending on the organization, this is often officially prohibited in order to maintain discipline between the ranks.
    • This also becomes a subject of some Interservice Rivalry related ribbing, as different branches of the same service (such as the United States Army and the Air Force) may have different cultural attitudes towards this sort of thing.[2]
  1. "Gramps"
  2. The US Air Force, for a variety of reasons, is seen as far more relaxed in this area than the Army, for instance.