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{{quote|''We raise and raze our city like the strangest house of cards...''|S.J. Tucker, "We are Shangri-La"}}
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[[wikipedia:Mythpunk#Other proposed derivatives|Mythpunk]] refers to "a subgenre of mythic fiction" in which classical folklore and faerie tales get hyperpoetic postmodern makeovers. Coined by author [[Catherynne M Valente (Creator)|Catherynne M Valente]], the term describes ''[http://yuki-onna.livejournal.com/263738.html a brand of speculative fiction which starts in folklore and myth and adds elements of postmodern fantastic techniques: urban fantasy, confessional poetry, non-linear storytelling, linguistic calisthenics, worldbuilding, and academic fantasy.]''
[[wikipedia:Mythpunk#Other proposed derivatives|Mythpunk]] refers to "a subgenre of mythic fiction" in which classical folklore and faerie tales get hyperpoetic postmodern makeovers. Coined by author [[Catherynne M. Valente|Catherynne M Valente]], the term describes ''[http://yuki-onna.livejournal.com/263738.html a brand of speculative fiction which starts in folklore and myth and adds elements of postmodern fantastic techniques: urban fantasy, confessional poetry, non-linear storytelling, linguistic calisthenics, worldbuilding, and academic fantasy.]''


Characterized by [[Awesome Anachronistic Apparel|baroque multicultural fashion]], [[Everyone Is Bi|alternative/ queer sexuality]], [[Adaptation Expansion|bizarre retellings]] of [[Twice-Told Tale|familiar faerie tales]], [[I'm Having Soul Pains|pervasive anxiety]], [[Big No|fear of inevitable change]], [[Mind Screw|elaborate symbolism]] and [[Deconstruction|radical reinterpretation]], mythpunk is a cross-media movement. Although largely defined through literary works like Andrea Jones's ''Hook & Jill'', Francesca Lia Block's [[Weetzie Bat]] series and Catherynne Valente's ''[[The Orphans Tales (Literature)|The Orphans Tales]]'', the mythpunk aesthetic occasionally manifests in music (The Decemberists), film (''Pan's Labyrinth''), jewelry and other media forms.
Characterized by [[Awesome Anachronistic Apparel|baroque multicultural fashion]], [[Everyone Is Bi|alternative/ queer sexuality]], [[Adaptation Expansion|bizarre retellings]] of [[Twice-Told Tale|familiar faerie tales]], [[I'm Having Soul Pains|pervasive anxiety]], [[Big No|fear of inevitable change]], [[Mind Screw|elaborate symbolism]] and [[Deconstruction|radical reinterpretation]], mythpunk is a cross-media movement. Although largely defined through literary works like Andrea Jones's ''Hook & Jill'', Francesca Lia Block's [[Weetzie Bat]] series and Catherynne Valente's ''[[The Orphan's Tales|The Orphans Tales]]'', the mythpunk aesthetic occasionally manifests in music (The Decemberists), film (''Pan's Labyrinth''), jewelry and other media forms.


Although this (sub)genre shares many elements with [[Urban Fantasy]], mythpunk stories tend to avoid [[Three Act Structure|linear or obvious story structures]], [[Purple Prose|simple prose]] and [[Cliché Storm|easily-discernible character archetypes]]. You may find talking dance shoes or carnivorous zebra-satyrs in a mythpunk tale, but [[Wangst|lovesick vampires]] are right out!
Although this (sub)genre shares many elements with [[Urban Fantasy]], mythpunk stories tend to avoid [[Three Act Structure|linear or obvious story structures]], [[Purple Prose|simple prose]] and [[Cliché Storm|easily-discernible character archetypes]]. You may find talking dance shoes or carnivorous zebra-satyrs in a mythpunk tale, but [[Wangst|lovesick vampires]] are right out!
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* [[Steampunk]]: Often overlaps with mythpunk, especially in its Victorianna trappings.
* [[Steampunk]]: Often overlaps with mythpunk, especially in its Victorianna trappings.
* [[Talking Animal]]: As in traditional folklore, mythpunk animals are quite chatty.
* [[Talking Animal]]: As in traditional folklore, mythpunk animals are quite chatty.
* [[This Is Your Premise On Drugs]]: The "punk" element of mythpunk often comes from the rampant [[Rule of Symbolism|symbolism]] and [[The Walrus Was Paul|surreal atmosphere]].
* [[This Is Your Premise on Drugs]]: The "punk" element of mythpunk often comes from the rampant [[Rule of Symbolism|symbolism]] and [[The Walrus Was Paul|surreal atmosphere]].
* [[Twice-Told Tale|Twice Told Tales]]: Many mythpunk stories have origins in older tales.
* [[Twice-Told Tale|Twice Told Tales]]: Many mythpunk stories have origins in older tales.
* [[Urban Fantasy]]: Usually the starting-point of an adventure that gets stranger as it goes along.
* [[Urban Fantasy]]: Usually the starting-point of an adventure that gets stranger as it goes along.
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* [[World Building]]: Mythpunk stories often feature [[Culture Chop Suey|polycultural]] stews of elaborate degree.
* [[World Building]]: Mythpunk stories often feature [[Culture Chop Suey|polycultural]] stews of elaborate degree.


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== Literature ==
== Literature ==


* Most of the elements involved in this genre can be found in the writings of [[Angela Carter (Creator)|Angela Carter]], most obviously ''[[The Bloody Chamber (Literature)|The Bloody Chamber]],'' ''[[Nights At the Circus (Literature)|Nights At the Circus]]'', and ''The Infernal Desire Machines of Doctor Hoffman''.
* Most of the elements involved in this genre can be found in the writings of [[Angela Carter]], most obviously ''[[The Bloody Chamber]],'' ''[[Nights at the Circus]]'', and ''The Infernal Desire Machines of Doctor Hoffman''.
* Andrea Jones's novel ''Hook & Jill'' features a poetically perverse [[Coming of Age Story|Coming of Age]] tale. In it, Wendy Darling starts growing up and wanting someone a bit more... ''serious''... than an increasingly callous Peter Pan...
* Andrea Jones's novel ''Hook & Jill'' features a poetically perverse [[Coming of Age Story|Coming of Age]] tale. In it, Wendy Darling starts growing up and wanting someone a bit more... ''serious''... than an increasingly callous Peter Pan...
** [[wikipedia:Gerald Brom|Gerald Brom's]] novel ''The Child Thief'' is a nightmarish take on [[wikipedia:Peter Pan|Peter Pan]]. It begins with a kid running from drug dealers and just gets progressively weirder from there. And for extra spice, it adds [[Everything's Deader With Zombies|zombies]], too!
** [[wikipedia:Gerald Brom|Gerald Brom's]] novel ''The Child Thief'' is a nightmarish take on [[wikipedia:Peter Pan|Peter Pan]]. It begins with a kid running from drug dealers and just gets progressively weirder from there. And for extra spice, it adds [[Everything's Deader with Zombies|zombies]], too!
* Valente's ''[[The Orphans Tales (Literature)|The Orphans Tales]]'' features most of the tropes above, wrapped in a [[Recursive Reality|Recursive Narrative]] drawn heavily from [[Arabian Nights (Literature)|Arabian]], [[Hans Christian Andersen|Danish]] and [http://russian-crafts.com/russian-folk-tales.html Russian] fairy tales. Plus [[Pirate|pirates]]!
* Valente's ''[[The Orphan's Tales|The Orphans Tales]]'' features most of the tropes above, wrapped in a [[Recursive Reality|Recursive Narrative]] drawn heavily from [[Arabian Nights|Arabian]], [[Hans Christian Andersen|Danish]] and [http://russian-crafts.com/russian-folk-tales.html Russian] fairy tales. Plus [[Pirate|pirates]]!
** Sei's saga in ''Palimpsest'' features some [[Cool Train|amazing visions of locomotive mythology]].
** Sei's saga in ''Palimpsest'' features some [[Cool Train|amazing visions of locomotive mythology]].
*** November's saga = ''Brrrrrrr..." or perhaps that should be [[Everything's Worse With Bees|''Buzzzzzzz...]]''
*** November's saga = ''Brrrrrrr..." or perhaps that should be [[Everything's Worse with Bees|''Buzzzzzzz...]]''
* [[wikipedia:Francesca Lia Block|Francesca Lia Block's]] novels and short stories practically vibrate with this style, most especially those in her Primavera series and the collection ''The Rose and the Beast''.
* [[wikipedia:Francesca Lia Block|Francesca Lia Block's]] novels and short stories practically vibrate with this style, most especially those in her Primavera series and the collection ''The Rose and the Beast''.
* The ''Jabberwocky'' series of anthologies published by Prime Books
* The ''Jabberwocky'' series of anthologies published by Prime Books
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* An apparent progenitor of this subgenre can be found in Neil Gaiman's ''[[The Sandman|Sandman]]'' series, especially the "Season of Mists" story arc and the tales "Ramadan" and "Dream of 1000 Cats."
* An apparent progenitor of this subgenre can be found in Neil Gaiman's ''[[The Sandman|Sandman]]'' series, especially the "Season of Mists" story arc and the tales "Ramadan" and "Dream of 1000 Cats."
* Alan Moore's series ''[[Promethea]]'' is mythpunk from end to end.
* Alan Moore's series ''[[Promethea]]'' is mythpunk from end to end.
* [[Hellboy (Comic Book)|Hellboy]] has shades of this, combining fictional [[Eldritch Abomination|cosmic horrors]] with real-world mythological figures like [[Baba Yaga]] and Hecate.
* [[Hellboy (comics)|Hellboy]] has shades of this, combining fictional [[Eldritch Abomination|cosmic horrors]] with real-world mythological figures like [[Baba Yaga]] and Hecate.


== Music ==
== Music ==
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== Live Action TV ==
== Live Action TV ==
* ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]'' has some examples. Most of them predate the term ''mythpunk''.
* ''[[Doctor Who]]'' has some examples. Most of them predate the term ''mythpunk''.
** ''The Curse of Peladon'' and ''The Monster of Peladon'' both take place on a Federation planet with Roman and Medieval elements, and a castle with a king or queen. One of the characters in the second story is a satyr for no particular reason.
** ''The Curse of Peladon'' and ''The Monster of Peladon'' both take place on a Federation planet with Roman and Medieval elements, and a castle with a king or queen. One of the characters in the second story is a satyr for no particular reason.
** ''The Androids of Tara'' is a futuristic retelling of ''The Prisoner of Zenda'' with electric flashing swords! Also includes castles, kings and robots!
** ''The Androids of Tara'' is a futuristic retelling of ''The Prisoner of Zenda'' with electric flashing swords! Also includes castles, kings and robots!
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** ''Battlefield'' is a sequel to the King Arthur legend.
** ''Battlefield'' is a sequel to the King Arthur legend.
** ''The Fires of Pompeii''
** ''The Fires of Pompeii''
** ''The Pandorica Opens'' and ''The Big Bang'' <ref> Autons disguised as Romans, a Cyberman in the [[Temple of Doom]], [[Sealed Evil in A Can|Pandora's Box]], Stonehenge, and a Fez!</ref>
** ''The Pandorica Opens'' and ''The Big Bang'' <ref> Autons disguised as Romans, a Cyberman in the [[Temple of Doom]], [[Sealed Evil in a Can|Pandora's Box]], Stonehenge, and a Fez!</ref>


== Webcomics ==
== Webcomics ==
* The writer of the webcomic ''[[Digger (Webcomic)|Digger]]'', Ursula Vernon, obviously knows a LOT about comparative mythology, much of it apparently gained from doing research for a degree in anthropology, as shown by the story's mix of a variety of mostly Asian sources, but including influences from around the world,including in one memorable case a modification of a myth told by the children of Cuban refugees in Miami, as well as some Vernon made up on her own.
* The writer of the webcomic ''[[Digger]]'', Ursula Vernon, obviously knows a LOT about comparative mythology, much of it apparently gained from doing research for a degree in anthropology, as shown by the story's mix of a variety of mostly Asian sources, but including influences from around the world,including in one memorable case a modification of a myth told by the children of Cuban refugees in Miami, as well as some Vernon made up on her own.




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* [[Cosmic Horror Story]]: Radio Gaga.
* [[Cosmic Horror Story]]: Radio Gaga.
* [[Crowning Moment of Funny]]: "''The British were fielding velociraptors. A full legion of them, clad in red coats and powdered wigs, advanced on the colonial army, reptilian eyes aglint with the cold malice of primeval hunger.''"
* [[Crowning Moment of Funny]]: "''The British were fielding velociraptors. A full legion of them, clad in red coats and powdered wigs, advanced on the colonial army, reptilian eyes aglint with the cold malice of primeval hunger.''"
* [[Deal With the Devil]]: George Washington made a pact with the gods of firearms to become impervious to bullets.
* [[Deal with the Devil]]: George Washington made a pact with the gods of firearms to become impervious to bullets.
* [[Doomsday Device]]: Benjamin Franklin built one of these.
* [[Doomsday Device]]: Benjamin Franklin built one of these.
* [[Eldritch Abomination]]: [[Lady Gaga]].
* [[Eldritch Abomination]]: [[Lady Gaga]].
* [[The Empire]]: The British, naturally.
* [[The Empire]]: The British, naturally.
* [[Everything's Better With Dinosaurs]]: ''Washington Invictus''.
* [[Everything's Better with Dinosaurs]]: ''Washington Invictus''.
* [[Eye Beams]]: Jane Austen's demon governess has these.
* [[Eye Beams]]: Jane Austen's demon governess has these.
* [[Fantasy Kitchen Sink]]: Gods, zombies, vampires, Buddhas, Lovecraftian horrors, mad scientists, dinosaurs, and presidents.
* [[Fantasy Kitchen Sink]]: Gods, zombies, vampires, Buddhas, Lovecraftian horrors, mad scientists, dinosaurs, and presidents.

Revision as of 17:11, 8 April 2014

Curiouser and curiouser...


Sei had never been comfortable in the presence of books. Their natural state was to be shut, closed, to grin pagily from shelves, laughing at her, promising so much and delivering such meanness, such thinness. They displayed only men and women with dead eyes and rituals of living she could not understand. When closed, books gave impressions of perfection. They did not need her.
—Cathrynne M. Valente, Palimpsest
We raise and raze our city like the strangest house of cards...
—S.J. Tucker, "We are Shangri-La"

Mythpunk refers to "a subgenre of mythic fiction" in which classical folklore and faerie tales get hyperpoetic postmodern makeovers. Coined by author Catherynne M Valente, the term describes a brand of speculative fiction which starts in folklore and myth and adds elements of postmodern fantastic techniques: urban fantasy, confessional poetry, non-linear storytelling, linguistic calisthenics, worldbuilding, and academic fantasy.

Characterized by baroque multicultural fashion, alternative/ queer sexuality, bizarre retellings of familiar faerie tales, pervasive anxiety, fear of inevitable change, elaborate symbolism and radical reinterpretation, mythpunk is a cross-media movement. Although largely defined through literary works like Andrea Jones's Hook & Jill, Francesca Lia Block's Weetzie Bat series and Catherynne Valente's The Orphans Tales, the mythpunk aesthetic occasionally manifests in music (The Decemberists), film (Pan's Labyrinth), jewelry and other media forms.

Although this (sub)genre shares many elements with Urban Fantasy, mythpunk stories tend to avoid linear or obvious story structures, simple prose and easily-discernible character archetypes. You may find talking dance shoes or carnivorous zebra-satyrs in a mythpunk tale, but lovesick vampires are right out!

(The name "mythpunk" also refers to a fiction blog; see below for details.)


Tropes:

Tropes used in Mythpunk include:


Literature

  • Most of the elements involved in this genre can be found in the writings of Angela Carter, most obviously The Bloody Chamber, Nights at the Circus, and The Infernal Desire Machines of Doctor Hoffman.
  • Andrea Jones's novel Hook & Jill features a poetically perverse Coming of Age tale. In it, Wendy Darling starts growing up and wanting someone a bit more... serious... than an increasingly callous Peter Pan...
    • Gerald Brom's novel The Child Thief is a nightmarish take on Peter Pan. It begins with a kid running from drug dealers and just gets progressively weirder from there. And for extra spice, it adds zombies, too!
  • Valente's The Orphans Tales features most of the tropes above, wrapped in a Recursive Narrative drawn heavily from Arabian, Danish and Russian fairy tales. Plus pirates!
  • Francesca Lia Block's novels and short stories practically vibrate with this style, most especially those in her Primavera series and the collection The Rose and the Beast.
  • The Jabberwocky series of anthologies published by Prime Books

Western Comics

  • An apparent progenitor of this subgenre can be found in Neil Gaiman's Sandman series, especially the "Season of Mists" story arc and the tales "Ramadan" and "Dream of 1000 Cats."
  • Alan Moore's series Promethea is mythpunk from end to end.
  • Hellboy has shades of this, combining fictional cosmic horrors with real-world mythological figures like Baba Yaga and Hecate.

Music

  • The Decemberists 2009 release The Hazards of Love - a concept album based around the tale of a woman, her shape-changer lover, and his Forest Queen mother - is the epitome of this genre in action.
  • Indie musician S.J. Tucker S.J. Tucker has released, as of 2010, three albums based on Valente's work, toured with her to support Palimpsest, and sometimes performs in costume as characters from Valente's work. The first two albums in this series - For the Girl in the Garden and Solace and Sorrow are based upon the first two Orphan's Tales novels; the third, Quartered, is based on Palimpsest.
  • With the 2009 album :ankoko butoh:, the band Faith and the Muse moved from its original Gothic Rock sound to a more mythpunk aesthetic, including elaborate visuals, dancers, Asian cultural elements, and baroque theatrics.

Film

  • Tim Burton's 2010 version of Alice in Wonderland treads this territory with gusto.
    • Of course, it can be argued that the original Alice in Wonderland was mythpunk in creepy training pants...
    • It can also be argued that neither one of them are, since they don't use "elements of postmodern fantastic techniques". Although you could consider the 1800's-parts of the story from the perspective of the main character, it still follows traditional fantasy.
  • Although the film predates the term, the 1980 film Company of Wolves displays this genre in all its best and most excessive elements.
  • Mirror Mask. Totally... although it displays a bit more levity than many stories in this style.
  • Americans thought that ~Pan's Labyrinth~ (El Labertino del Fauno) was a nice little fairy tale. The "R" rating should have clued them in...


Live Action TV

  • Doctor Who has some examples. Most of them predate the term mythpunk.
    • The Curse of Peladon and The Monster of Peladon both take place on a Federation planet with Roman and Medieval elements, and a castle with a king or queen. One of the characters in the second story is a satyr for no particular reason.
    • The Androids of Tara is a futuristic retelling of The Prisoner of Zenda with electric flashing swords! Also includes castles, kings and robots!
    • The Myth Makers takes place in Troy.
    • The Underwater Menace has The Doctor and his companions taken prisoner by the survivors of Atlantis.
    • The Mind Robber takes place in The Land of Fiction.
    • The Deadly Assassin, The Invasion of Time, and particularly The Five Doctors portray the Time Lords in a slightly Romanesque culture.
    • Battlefield is a sequel to the King Arthur legend.
    • The Fires of Pompeii
    • The Pandorica Opens and The Big Bang [1]

Webcomics

  • The writer of the webcomic Digger, Ursula Vernon, obviously knows a LOT about comparative mythology, much of it apparently gained from doing research for a degree in anthropology, as shown by the story's mix of a variety of mostly Asian sources, but including influences from around the world,including in one memorable case a modification of a myth told by the children of Cuban refugees in Miami, as well as some Vernon made up on her own.


Real Life

  • As a promotional tour for her novel Palimpsest, Catherynne M. Valente toured several cities by train (mirroring the locomotive and city themes throughout the book). During that tour, Valente, her fans and various collaborators staged readings, shows and musical performances, often in costume.
    • Fans and performers were often painted with "tattoos" that recalled the mystical map-tattoos that appear on people who have been to Palimpsest. Several of them have gone on to make those tattoos permanent.
      • The Ajanabah setting from the Orphan's Tales series has been spun off into artwork, jewelry, fire-spinning shows, costumes, and several albums.

Mythpunk Fiction Blog

The name Mythpunk also refers to a fiction blog containing action-comedy stories combining alternate history and epics. Set in a world where historical figures regularly clash with dinosaurs, zombies, and alien gods with kung fu, the stories run off of Rule of Cool and sly historical and pop culture in-jokes.


Tropes:

  1. Autons disguised as Romans, a Cyberman in the Temple of Doom, Pandora's Box, Stonehenge, and a Fez!