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"TVTropes is allegedly a site where people look at the common tropes found in the media. What TVTropes does not do is actually analyze anything and it has mostly become a toxic community of constant fanboy wanking. Come, tell your horror stories." —Fuck No TVTropes's description

Fuck No TVTropes was a Tumblr blog that mostly served as a community submission blog of things others found horrible about TV Tropes. As a fork of the site, All The Tropes also caught their attention and was criticized whenever applicable as well. The blog’s moderator, Mark, did occasionally make posts of his own.

The blog is long abandoned, with the most recent post from 2019 explaining that the author wished to waste no more time critiquing tropes sites, having moved on to more productive ventures (the post before that one was from March 2016). Most if not all of the posts survived the great "cleanup" of Tumblr in December 2018.

Fuck No TVTropes provides examples of the following tropes:

• Abusive Parents: Joked about when Mark answered a question about how he became a casual anime watcher.

"I was so much of a weeaboo back in high school that my parents sent me to a camp run by Marcus Bachmann to make me normal. Now I'm more casual."

• Accentuate the Negative: Per the blog's nature and title. While far from exclusively negative, the blog was criticized as blaming TV Tropes for behavior that didn't directly occur there (but might, say, have a basis in behavior that originated there), as well as hanging its hat on Fan Wank that was already widely-mocked while acknowledging the site attempts to correct that behavior. Despite this, and in spite of its vitriol, the blog does also offer the occasional note of praise; see Pet the Dog below in particular.
• Aesop Amnesia: When Inspector Spacetime made it to TV Tropes's High Octane Nightmare Fuel page, FNTVT noted that the tropers didn't learn their lesson from the Ugly Barnacle incident (where a joke work page was created for a two-sentence "story" from SpongeBob SquarePants and before long became Serious Business).
• Banned On TV Tropes: Averted - when a page was made on TV Tropes for the blog back in 2014, it was left up despite being overtly (and in some opinions overly) critical of the site. When it did get cut in 2017, it was done without locking as part of a general cleanup effort regarding websites that lacked narratives to be "properly" troped, rather than any attempts at censorship.
• Better Than New: When TV Tropes came under new ownership, they made some tweaks and design changes to improve the layout of the site. This resulted in Mark giving them some rare praise:

"Congrats, new mods. You're much more competent at website layout than the old mods."

• Brain Bleach / "No. Just... No" Reaction: A common reaction to the subjects of several posts, particularly the fact that TV Tropes' Incest Subtext and Incest Yay Shipping pages once had sections for flesh-and-blood Real Life people.
• Brutal Honesty: The blog author does not sugarcoat anything. If the troping world does something wrong/horrible, it will be called on it in no uncertain terms.
• Criticizes Everyone Equally: The author also does not play favorites - a troping website that does something horrible will be called out, this one included. Mark in particular notes that he made the blog for "people who do like TV Tropes and feel like there's something that needs to be fixed or for people who have been hurt by the community," and kept it submission-based for the purpose of acting as a 'pseudo-mediator' and watchdog.
  • Bile Fascination: Specifically averted, as Mark doesn't want to come off as "a weirdo who spends all day chronicling each and every single thing wrong with the site."
• Damned By Faint Praise: The blog author, after being asked if there's anything he likes about TV Tropes, had this to say.

I suppose a good aspect would be how they kept all the subpages on the top of the pages. That way you won’t have to go through the entire article looking for a link to their character page.

• Deadpan Snarker: Many of the conversations and responses by Mark, as well as several of the submissions.

"...If you stare into the abyss of DeviantART, it stares back."

• Did Not Do the Research: Mark notes that he should look up things more often before replying to asks; this came after a series of posts concerning Hyperdimension Neptunia. He didn't trust the art style, and the series had been inaccurately characterized as porn, prompting him to look into it and learn that it was just a Moe Anthropomorphism of game consoles having adventures that was incredibly Fanservicey at worst.
• Everyone Has Standards: When asked to make a cousin to "Fuck No TV Tropes" about DeviantArt's darkness, Mark refused, stating that "he'll die after three posts" and that many have tried. He also cited a lack of interest; in the blog's FAQ, he states that dA and other sites have a way to avoid the worse segments of their communities (with the implication that doing a similar blog would mean actively searching for them). Due to TVTropes and its nature as a wiki, the products of the site's worst are more likely to be shown at the forefront, and thus reflect poorly on everyone involved. That, and he'd also probably "be dead within a few weeks" if he tried a similar blog for dA.
• Everything's Better with Dinosaurs: Mark loves him some dinos.

"It means that my list of priorities goes like this: 1. Dinosaurs 2. Pokémon 3. RuPaul's Drag Race 4. Shitty Fan Fiction 5. My personal appearance 6. Everything else."

• Fan Wank: A major focus of the blog's criticisms.
• Feminism: The author considers himself a feminist.
• Future Imperfect: Mark jokingly hopes that a thousand years into the future, archaeologists won't view Twilight Sparkle and Rainbow Dash as some sort of Ancient Mesopotamian Gods because of the abundance of TV Tropes' articles on MLP's different fanfiction genres.
• Insane Troll Logic: The blog frequently lampoons the lengths some users go to in order to justify adding certain examples, as well as other examples of tropers being seriously out of touch with reality.
  • Highlights include a theory that claimed the "obvious" existence of Twincest Subtext between Violet and Klaus from A Series of Unfortunate Events.
  • "Actually, being groped is good because you were attractive enough to warrant being molested!" And this was supposed to get them to open up. Dear God, where to begin.
• Kill It with Fire:
  • The author's reaction to TV Tropes categorizing Edwin Epps raping his slave Patsey in Twelve Years a Slave as "Villainous Crush", instead of Rape Is a Special Kind of Evil.
  • Mark's answer when asked if he'd fire any particular mod:

"I'd probably go all Tabula Rasa on it and fire everyone. I have never heard one good story about any mod on TV Tropes, period."

• La Résistance: The author's reaction when the blog got its own TV Tropes page, and said page survived for some months; then-administrator Fast Eddie even cleaned the page up a bit while leaving the blog's criticism intact.

"Viva la revolución."

• Nostalgia Filter: Another common criticism of example placement, and cited in particular in response to someone asking who in their right mind would place Duke Nukem on the Fair for Its Day page.
• Orphaned Series: The blog has been inactive since the last ask answered in March 2016. In March of 2019, Mark posted a final update that clarified why he'd abandoned the blog: as much fun as he'd had taking the site down a peg, he eventually realized that, in his opinion, he was holding the site up to an unreasonable standard it could never truly meet, and had more productive things to invest his time in.
• Pet the Dog: In spite of criticizing it as well, the blog has recommended All The Tropes as an alternative to the site multiple times. The FAQ also states not to vandalize TVTropes pages, instead giving tips on how to actually improve the site and provide actual analysis.
  • The author acknowledges when TVT realizes that underage characters were ending up in the "Memetic Sex God" and that they have to do huge cleanups.

MOD Note: Shimaspawn's doing God's work right now.

• Mark also reminded those that have issues with TV Tropes to just leave criticism at Fighteer's YouTube videos, not death threats. Also, stay away from his son.

• Self-Insert Fic: An anonymous asker stating that "the misanthropic and moronic power fantasies of teenagers will always be with us" is met with a reply joking about the Library of Alexandria's destruction in this manner, likely as a play on the misconception that such "cringy" writing could only exist in modern times.

"Think of it this way: Now that the Library of Alexandria is gone, we don't have to read Sappho's self-insert Greek Mythology shipping fan fics.