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{{quote|"''Why do I need you, Jerec, when I can take all the power of the Valley myself?''"|'''Kyle Katarn''', ''[[Dark Forces Saga|Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight]]'' [[Multiple Endings|dark side ending]]}}
{{quote|"''Why do I need you, Jerec, when I can take all the power of the Valley myself?''"|'''Kyle Katarn''', ''[[Dark Forces Saga|Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight]]'' [[Multiple Endings|dark side ending]]}}


The villain tells the "[[Designated Hero|h]][[Anti Hero|e]][[Sociopathic Hero|r]][[Villain Protagonist|o]]" that [[We Can Rule Together]], and why would he refuse? He has built up lots of [[Karma Meter|bad karma]] and [[Kick the Dog|kicked lots of dogs]] by now. The former hero likes the idea... except for that little "sharing" detail. As he points out, there is absolutely no reason not to just kill the villain and take the [[Cosmic Keystone]] for himself, ruling solo.
The villain tells the "[[Designated Hero|h]][[Anti-Hero|e]][[Sociopathic Hero|r]][[Villain Protagonist|o]]" that [[We Can Rule Together]], and why would he refuse? He has built up lots of [[Karma Meter|bad karma]] and [[Kick the Dog|kicked lots of dogs]] by now. The former hero likes the idea... except for that little "sharing" detail. As he points out, there is absolutely no reason not to just kill the villain and take the [[Cosmic Keystone]] for himself, ruling solo.


Or if that is too long, Villain offers a [[We Can Rule Together|chance to rule together]], "hero" kills villain, takes [[MacGuffin]] and uses it to dominate the world himself. Word of advice to villains: if you're dealing with a person who was willing to betray their [[True Companions|true friends and comrades]] for a taste of power, don't be surprised that they'll be willing do the same to ''you''. This is typically a [[Start of Darkness]].
Or if that is too long, Villain offers a [[We Can Rule Together|chance to rule together]], "hero" kills villain, takes [[MacGuffin]] and uses it to dominate the world himself. Word of advice to villains: if you're dealing with a person who was willing to betray their [[True Companions|true friends and comrades]] for a taste of power, don't be surprised that they'll be willing do the same to ''you''. This is typically a [[Start of Darkness]].


Some [[Magnificent Bastard|especially cunning]] Villains give the [[We Can Rule Together]] speech, allow the hero to fall, and then reveal that...:gasp: they were [[I Lied|lying]] about sharing! [[Villains Never Lie|Who would have thought?]]
Some [[Magnificent Bastard|especially cunning]] Villains give the [[We Can Rule Together]] speech, allow the hero to fall, and then reveal that...:gasp: they were [[I Lied|lying]] about sharing! [[Villains Never Lie|Who would have thought?]]
{{examples|Examples}}


{{examples}}
== Film ==
== Film ==
* ''[[Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole]]''. Invoked by Metal Beak to {{spoiler|Allomere}}.

* Erik Lensherr (aka Magneto) from ''[[X-Men: First Class|X Men First Class]]'' agreed with everything [[Big Bad|Sebastian Shaw]] said. Unfortunately, Shaw [[You Killed My Father|has killed his mother]].
* ''[[Legend of the Guardians The Owls of ga Hoole]]''. Invoked by Metal Beak to {{spoiler|Allomere}}.
* Erik Lensherr (aka Magneto) from ''[[X Men First Class (Film)|X Men First Class]]'' agreed with everything [[Big Bad|Sebastian Shaw]] said. Unfortunately, Shaw [[You Killed My Father|has killed his mother]].


== Literature ==
== Literature ==
* Played with in ''[[Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor]]''. Luke is set up as Palpatine's heir apparent and ''pretends'' to be the Emperor to execute a mass [[Heel Face Turn]] from the Imperial soldiers. It doesn't work out. (Hint: {{spoiler|That black armor isn't paint!}})

* Played with in ''[[Luke Skywalker and The Shadows of Mindor]]''. Luke is set up as Palpatine's heir apparent and ''pretends'' to be the Emperor to execute a mass [[Heel Face Turn]] from the Imperial soldiers. It doesn't work out. (Hint: {{spoiler|That black armor isn't paint!}})
* Inversed in the Fate/Zero light novels (see quote), Rider was asking Gilgamesh to rule the world together with him.
* Inversed in the Fate/Zero light novels (see quote), Rider was asking Gilgamesh to rule the world together with him.


== Video Games ==
== Video Games ==

* Quite common in ''[[Star Wars]]'':
* Quite common in ''[[Star Wars]]'':
** Kyle Katarn in the dark side ending for ''[[Dark Forces Saga|Jedi Knight]]'', as mentioned above.
** Kyle Katarn in the dark side ending for ''[[Dark Forces Saga|Jedi Knight]]'', as mentioned above.
** Likewise in ''Jedi Academy'''s dark side ending, Jaden Korr will kill Tavion and take the Scepter of [[Sealed Evil in A Can|Ragnos]] for him/herself.
** Likewise in ''Jedi Academy'''s dark side ending, Jaden Korr will kill Tavion and take the Scepter of [[Sealed Evil in a Can|Ragnos]] for him/herself.
** In fact, this is more or less the modus operandi for Sith in general in the series, given that betraying and killing their masters is built into their dogma. The Rule of Two allows for a lot of Dark Jedi, even Dark Jedi with a bit of Sith training, but only two true Sith, and of those two, if the apprentice doesn't kill the master, the master ''will'' try and kill the apprentice. This is assumed from the start of pretty much every apprenticeship - the student will hold off on killing the master until enough has been taught or the master looks too weak, and the master will refrain from killing the apprentice until the apprentice becomes worryingly powerful. Or until they've done all the errands the master wants. Or until a more promising apprentice has been found and taken well into hand.
** In fact, this is more or less the modus operandi for Sith in general in the series, given that betraying and killing their masters is built into their dogma. The Rule of Two allows for a lot of Dark Jedi, even Dark Jedi with a bit of Sith training, but only two true Sith, and of those two, if the apprentice doesn't kill the master, the master ''will'' try and kill the apprentice. This is assumed from the start of pretty much every apprenticeship - the student will hold off on killing the master until enough has been taught or the master looks too weak, and the master will refrain from killing the apprentice until the apprentice becomes worryingly powerful. Or until they've done all the errands the master wants. Or until a more promising apprentice has been found and taken well into hand.
*** [[The Force Unleashed]] novel has one of the surviving Jedi tell Starkiller, "The Sith always betray one another. I'm sure you'll learn that soon enough." And indeed, not long after that Vader turns on his secret apprentice. Vader's ''other'' secret apprentice, from a manga storyline, was killed when the Emperor found out about him. Compared to Starkiller, though, little [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tao Tao] comes off as something of a [[Morality Pet]] which Vader was not allowed to keep.
*** [[The Force Unleashed]] novel has one of the surviving Jedi tell Starkiller, "The Sith always betray one another. I'm sure you'll learn that soon enough." And indeed, not long after that Vader turns on his secret apprentice. Vader's ''other'' secret apprentice, from a manga storyline, was killed when the Emperor found out about him. Compared to Starkiller, though, little [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tao Tao] comes off as something of a [[Morality Pet]] which Vader was not allowed to keep.
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*** In the Darth Bane books, Bane gets worried because his apprentice hasn't tried to kill him. Essentially, to the Sith, a loyal apprentice is an embarrassment.
*** In the Darth Bane books, Bane gets worried because his apprentice hasn't tried to kill him. Essentially, to the Sith, a loyal apprentice is an embarrassment.
**** Actually, [[Complete Monster|Bane's]] problem was that his apprentice [[Bastard Understudy|Zannah]] seemed willing to wait for him to die of old age so she could claim his rank without fighting. [[Fridge Logic|If they did not fight to the death, how would they know who had truly been the strongest?]] Bane acknowledges that waiting for an enemy to grow weak is a valid and normally wise strategy, but this was a special case because it was essential for Zannah to be stronger than him once she became the Sith Lord, otherwise the Sith Order would stagnate.
**** Actually, [[Complete Monster|Bane's]] problem was that his apprentice [[Bastard Understudy|Zannah]] seemed willing to wait for him to die of old age so she could claim his rank without fighting. [[Fridge Logic|If they did not fight to the death, how would they know who had truly been the strongest?]] Bane acknowledges that waiting for an enemy to grow weak is a valid and normally wise strategy, but this was a special case because it was essential for Zannah to be stronger than him once she became the Sith Lord, otherwise the Sith Order would stagnate.
** In ''[[Fateofthe Jedi|Fate of the Jedi]]'', and it's ''Lost Tribe of the Sith'' [[Expansion Pack Past|tie-in]], the aforementioned tribe seems to avert this. In the series proper, when their High Lord {{spoiler|Taalon gets [[In the Back|cut open from behind]] by Vestara, she}} has to get out of dodge, to avoid being killed in revenge... Also, earlier, a Sith ship's captain and entire crew' just ''let themselves get executed'' as a scapegoat, 'for the good of the tribe'.
** In ''[[Fate of the Jedi]]'', and it's ''Lost Tribe of the Sith'' [[Expansion Pack Past|tie-in]], the aforementioned tribe seems to avert this. In the series proper, when their High Lord {{spoiler|Taalon gets [[In the Back|cut open from behind]] by Vestara, she}} has to get out of dodge, to avoid being killed in revenge... Also, earlier, a Sith ship's captain and entire crew' just ''let themselves get executed'' as a scapegoat, 'for the good of the tribe'.
* A cutscene in ''[[Samurai Warriors]] 2'' (and ''Empires'') shows Akechi thinking exactly this as he initializes the Incident at Honnoj, turning on his former master, Oda Nobunaga. His expanded reasoning is that he initially agreed to follow Nobunaga because he believed him able to put an end to these war-torn times... but then, watching the damage caused by Nobunaga's armies, he changed his mind. "Fuck that," he said "I'll just knock him off and become a lord ''myself''. Then ''I'll'' bring peace to these troubled times." And so he did. 'cept for the 'bring peace to these troubled times' bit, maybe.
* A cutscene in ''[[Samurai Warriors]] 2'' (and ''Empires'') shows Akechi thinking exactly this as he initializes the Incident at Honnoj, turning on his former master, Oda Nobunaga. His expanded reasoning is that he initially agreed to follow Nobunaga because he believed him able to put an end to these war-torn times... but then, watching the damage caused by Nobunaga's armies, he changed his mind. "Fuck that," he said "I'll just knock him off and become a lord ''myself''. Then ''I'll'' bring peace to these troubled times." And so he did. 'cept for the 'bring peace to these troubled times' bit, maybe.
* In the [[Mega Corp|WorldCorp]] endgame for ''[[The Nameless Mod]]'', Trestkon can elect to ban Scara before he completes the final objective.
* In the [[Mega Corp|WorldCorp]] endgame for ''[[The Nameless Mod]]'', Trestkon can elect to ban Scara before he completes the final objective.
* {{spoiler|Amelyssan}} does this in ''[[Baldurs Gate]]'' ''Throne of Bhaal''. "Remain dust, my dead god."
* {{spoiler|Amelyssan}} does this in ''[[Baldur's Gate]]'' ''Throne of Bhaal''. "Remain dust, my dead god."
* In the bad ending of ''Darkwatch,'' after defeating Cassidy and helping Tala secure ultimate power, Jericho Cross [[Vampire Bites Suck|rips Tala's jugular open]] and goes on to presumably take over the Wild West.
* In the bad ending of ''Darkwatch,'' after defeating Cassidy and helping Tala secure ultimate power, Jericho Cross [[Vampire Bites Suck|rips Tala's jugular open]] and goes on to presumably take over the Wild West.
* In ''[[The Suffering]] : Ties That Bind'', Blackmore encourages Torque to kill Jordan, despite the fact that she's his most powerful ally and the two have a [[We Can Rule Together]] moment in the game's evil ending if you ignore him and spare her. Then again, this may simply be because Blackmore has zero impulse control.
* In ''[[The Suffering]] : Ties That Bind'', Blackmore encourages Torque to kill Jordan, despite the fact that she's his most powerful ally and the two have a [[We Can Rule Together]] moment in the game's evil ending if you ignore him and spare her. Then again, this may simply be because Blackmore has zero impulse control.
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* In ''[[Ultima Underworld]] II'', Mors Gotha presents the [[We Can Rule Together]] offer to the Avatar. However, it's merely a ruse to get you to hand over a weapon; if you accept, she tells you that power was never meant to be shared, and proceeds to attack you.
* In ''[[Ultima Underworld]] II'', Mors Gotha presents the [[We Can Rule Together]] offer to the Avatar. However, it's merely a ruse to get you to hand over a weapon; if you accept, she tells you that power was never meant to be shared, and proceeds to attack you.
* Inverted and subverted in [[Dawn of War]] where Sindri is almost backstabbed by {{spoiler|Brother-Librarian Isador}} for this reason but is quite ready for the attempt and betrays {{spoiler|Isador}} first.
* Inverted and subverted in [[Dawn of War]] where Sindri is almost backstabbed by {{spoiler|Brother-Librarian Isador}} for this reason but is quite ready for the attempt and betrays {{spoiler|Isador}} first.
* If you accept [[Dragon Quest I (Video Game)|the Dragonlord's]] [[We Can Rule Together|offer]], he tells you "take a long, long rest." Cue the [[Nonstandard Game Over|red text]]....
* If you accept [[Dragon Quest I|the Dragonlord's]] [[We Can Rule Together|offer]], he tells you "take a long, long rest." Cue the [[Nonstandard Game Over|red text]]....
* One of the possible ending choices in ''[[Alpha Protocol]]'', depending on choices you make in the game. Depending on the contacts you made throughout you have varying levels of success with the aftermath - up to and including changing the entire course of global politics.
* One of the possible ending choices in ''[[Alpha Protocol]]'', depending on choices you make in the game. Depending on the contacts you made throughout you have varying levels of success with the aftermath - up to and including changing the entire course of global politics.
* The first ''[[Streets of Rage]]'' has Mr. X posit the usual "join me and we can rule this town" spiel. Accepting it only serves to toss you back two stages. Two-player, however, works differently; both players can answer the question. If both answers are the same, it's akin to the single-player answers; if both players answer differently, however, a battle between the two players initiates. If the player who agreed to join Mr. X wins, the question is posited again; this time, you can say "no" and invoke this trope. The final boss with Mr. X begins as usual, but winning gives an exclusive "bad ending" showing you in charge of the X Syndicate.
* The first ''[[Streets of Rage]]'' has Mr. X posit the usual "join me and we can rule this town" spiel. Accepting it only serves to toss you back two stages. Two-player, however, works differently; both players can answer the question. If both answers are the same, it's akin to the single-player answers; if both players answer differently, however, a battle between the two players initiates. If the player who agreed to join Mr. X wins, the question is posited again; this time, you can say "no" and invoke this trope. The final boss with Mr. X begins as usual, but winning gives an exclusive "bad ending" showing you in charge of the X Syndicate.
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** One wonders why anyone would go along with Demichev's option, since he's basically asking you to ''hand the TMD over to him''; he doesn't even have anything to offer you.
** One wonders why anyone would go along with Demichev's option, since he's basically asking you to ''hand the TMD over to him''; he doesn't even have anything to offer you.
* In ''[[Vampire Bloodlines]]'', you can certainly TRY this {{spoiler|1=by killing LaCroix and opening the Ankharan Sarcophagus yourself. Only it doesn't work at all like you had hoped. There's a ''reason'' you're repeatedly cautioned in-game not to open it.}}
* In ''[[Vampire Bloodlines]]'', you can certainly TRY this {{spoiler|1=by killing LaCroix and opening the Ankharan Sarcophagus yourself. Only it doesn't work at all like you had hoped. There's a ''reason'' you're repeatedly cautioned in-game not to open it.}}
* This is the fourth possible ending in ''[[Fallout New Vegas]]'' and can be either good or bad depending upon your actions throughout the game. The more people you helped the smoother the transition of power becomes in the ending montage and the people are more likely to accept you as their new ruler.
* This is the fourth possible ending in ''[[Fallout: New Vegas]]'' and can be either good or bad depending upon your actions throughout the game. The more people you helped the smoother the transition of power becomes in the ending montage and the people are more likely to accept you as their new ruler.
* In ''[[Dark Messiah of Might and Magic]]'', this is one of Sareth's options. Xana will actually advise you to do this instead of freeing the Demon Sovereign, since by that point she'd rather follow your lead than his.
* In ''[[Dark Messiah of Might and Magic]]'', this is one of Sareth's options. Xana will actually advise you to do this instead of freeing the Demon Sovereign, since by that point she'd rather follow your lead than his.

== Web Comics ==
* ''[[Dominic Deegan]]'': [[The Dragon|Neilen]] pulls this on [[Magnificent Bastard|Jacob]] [https://web.archive.org/web/20140911211200/http://www.dominic-deegan.com/view.php?date=2009-09-02 here].
{{quote|'''Jacob:''' Neilen. Excellent. Now we can '''URGK!'''
'''Neilen:''' "We"? What do you mean "we"? }}


== Western Animation ==
== Western Animation ==
* Used in an episode of ''[[The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy]]'': After Eris slips up during her [[We Can Rule Together]] speech to Mandy, and says, "You'll be the ''second'' most powerful person on Earth," Mandy declines, saying only ''she'' can be the most powerful.

* In ''[[Spider-Man: The Animated Series]]'', [[Red Skull]] turns his son into a creature of immense power, Electro, and then proceeds to expand on how he is now going to conquer the world with Electro by his side. Electro asks why he should stand by anybody's side when he is the one with all the power, zaps his surprisingly [[Genre Blind|unsavvy]] daddy and takes off to claim the world for himself.
* Used in an episode of ''[[The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy]]'': After Eris slips up during her [[We Can Rule Together]] speech to Mandy, and says, "You'll be the ''second'' most powerful person on Earth," Mandy declines, saying only ''she'' can be the most powerful.
* In ''[[Spider Man the Animated Series]]'', [[Red Skull]] turns his son into a creature of immense power, Electro, and then proceeds to expand on how he is now going to conquer the world with Electro by his side. Electro asks why he should stand by anybody's side when he is the one with all the power, zaps his surprisingly [[Genre Blind|unsavvy]] daddy and takes off to claim the world for himself.
** His son also brings up the point that the Red Skull risked his life in the experiment. The Red Skull dismisses his son's complaints, saying that the risk was "minimal". This didn't exactly endear him to Electro.
** His son also brings up the point that the Red Skull risked his life in the experiment. The Red Skull dismisses his son's complaints, saying that the risk was "minimal". This didn't exactly endear him to Electro.
* Used in an episode of Disney's [[Gummi Bears]], when Duke Igthorne makes the mistake of putting Toadwart, his subserviant dwarf ogre sidekick, into a suit of magic armor...
* Used in an episode of Disney's [[Gummi Bears]], when Duke Igthorne makes the mistake of putting Toadwart, his subserviant dwarf ogre sidekick, into a suit of magic armor...
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** [[Big Bad]] Makuta [[Names to Run Away From Really Fast|Teridax]] used his Brotherhood to complete his grand plan to seize power, committing [[Grand Theft Me]] on the resident [[Physical God]] and basically ''becoming one'' with the entire known world (revealed to be a [[Sapient Ship|truly gigantic robot]]), allowing him to control everything inside of it and then use it to conquer other planets. The moment this hijacking works out (and even a bit before that) he begins killing off his own species, as he believed the Makuta were the only ones with the knowledge and power required to execute "The Plan". While the original plan was for the rest of the Brotherhood to rule alongside their leader, only a few of them even thought of the possibility that they could be betrayed. Since their entire motivation for overthrowing the Great Spirit in the first place was pride and jealousy at being eternally below him on the ladder of power, of course Teridax didn't trust any one of them to not try and do it against ''him''.
** [[Big Bad]] Makuta [[Names to Run Away From Really Fast|Teridax]] used his Brotherhood to complete his grand plan to seize power, committing [[Grand Theft Me]] on the resident [[Physical God]] and basically ''becoming one'' with the entire known world (revealed to be a [[Sapient Ship|truly gigantic robot]]), allowing him to control everything inside of it and then use it to conquer other planets. The moment this hijacking works out (and even a bit before that) he begins killing off his own species, as he believed the Makuta were the only ones with the knowledge and power required to execute "The Plan". While the original plan was for the rest of the Brotherhood to rule alongside their leader, only a few of them even thought of the possibility that they could be betrayed. Since their entire motivation for overthrowing the Great Spirit in the first place was pride and jealousy at being eternally below him on the ladder of power, of course Teridax didn't trust any one of them to not try and do it against ''him''.
* A variation in the ''[[Jonny Quest]]'' original series story "The Riddle of the Gold": the Maharaja tells Dr. Zinn's agent that soon they'll be the richest, most powerful men in the world. The agent poisons the Maharaja and declares, "There is room for only one richest, most powerful man in the world ... and he is Dr. Zinn." The agent is ''NOT'' Zinn in disguise. That's loyalty.
* A variation in the ''[[Jonny Quest]]'' original series story "The Riddle of the Gold": the Maharaja tells Dr. Zinn's agent that soon they'll be the richest, most powerful men in the world. The agent poisons the Maharaja and declares, "There is room for only one richest, most powerful man in the world ... and he is Dr. Zinn." The agent is ''NOT'' Zinn in disguise. That's loyalty.

== Web Comics ==

* ''[[Dominic Deegan]]'': [[The Dragon|Neilen]] pulls this on [[Magnificent Bastard|Jacob]] [http://dominic-deegan.com/view.php?date=2009-09-02 here].
{{quote| '''Jacob:''' Neilen. Excellent. Now we can '''URGK!'''<br />
'''Neilen:''' "We"? What do you mean "we"? }}


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Latest revision as of 23:33, 28 January 2022

"Why do I need you, Jerec, when I can take all the power of the Valley myself?"

The villain tells the "hero" that We Can Rule Together, and why would he refuse? He has built up lots of bad karma and kicked lots of dogs by now. The former hero likes the idea... except for that little "sharing" detail. As he points out, there is absolutely no reason not to just kill the villain and take the Cosmic Keystone for himself, ruling solo.

Or if that is too long, Villain offers a chance to rule together, "hero" kills villain, takes MacGuffin and uses it to dominate the world himself. Word of advice to villains: if you're dealing with a person who was willing to betray their true friends and comrades for a taste of power, don't be surprised that they'll be willing do the same to you. This is typically a Start of Darkness.

Some especially cunning Villains give the We Can Rule Together speech, allow the hero to fall, and then reveal that...:gasp: they were lying about sharing! Who would have thought?

Examples of I Can Rule Alone include:

Film

Literature

  • Played with in Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor. Luke is set up as Palpatine's heir apparent and pretends to be the Emperor to execute a mass Heel Face Turn from the Imperial soldiers. It doesn't work out. (Hint: That black armor isn't paint!)
  • Inversed in the Fate/Zero light novels (see quote), Rider was asking Gilgamesh to rule the world together with him.

Video Games

  • Quite common in Star Wars:
    • Kyle Katarn in the dark side ending for Jedi Knight, as mentioned above.
    • Likewise in Jedi Academy's dark side ending, Jaden Korr will kill Tavion and take the Scepter of Ragnos for him/herself.
    • In fact, this is more or less the modus operandi for Sith in general in the series, given that betraying and killing their masters is built into their dogma. The Rule of Two allows for a lot of Dark Jedi, even Dark Jedi with a bit of Sith training, but only two true Sith, and of those two, if the apprentice doesn't kill the master, the master will try and kill the apprentice. This is assumed from the start of pretty much every apprenticeship - the student will hold off on killing the master until enough has been taught or the master looks too weak, and the master will refrain from killing the apprentice until the apprentice becomes worryingly powerful. Or until they've done all the errands the master wants. Or until a more promising apprentice has been found and taken well into hand.
      • The Force Unleashed novel has one of the surviving Jedi tell Starkiller, "The Sith always betray one another. I'm sure you'll learn that soon enough." And indeed, not long after that Vader turns on his secret apprentice. Vader's other secret apprentice, from a manga storyline, was killed when the Emperor found out about him. Compared to Starkiller, though, little Tao comes off as something of a Morality Pet which Vader was not allowed to keep.
      • Star Wars Legacy has the Sith abandon the Rule of Two for the Rule of One - that 'one' being the Sith as a whole, meaning that there are a lot of them and they actually can work together, if uneasily.
      • In the Darth Bane books, Bane gets worried because his apprentice hasn't tried to kill him. Essentially, to the Sith, a loyal apprentice is an embarrassment.
    • In Fate of the Jedi, and it's Lost Tribe of the Sith tie-in, the aforementioned tribe seems to avert this. In the series proper, when their High Lord Taalon gets cut open from behind by Vestara, she has to get out of dodge, to avoid being killed in revenge... Also, earlier, a Sith ship's captain and entire crew' just let themselves get executed as a scapegoat, 'for the good of the tribe'.
  • A cutscene in Samurai Warriors 2 (and Empires) shows Akechi thinking exactly this as he initializes the Incident at Honnoj, turning on his former master, Oda Nobunaga. His expanded reasoning is that he initially agreed to follow Nobunaga because he believed him able to put an end to these war-torn times... but then, watching the damage caused by Nobunaga's armies, he changed his mind. "Fuck that," he said "I'll just knock him off and become a lord myself. Then I'll bring peace to these troubled times." And so he did. 'cept for the 'bring peace to these troubled times' bit, maybe.
  • In the WorldCorp endgame for The Nameless Mod, Trestkon can elect to ban Scara before he completes the final objective.
  • Amelyssan does this in Baldur's Gate Throne of Bhaal. "Remain dust, my dead god."
  • In the bad ending of Darkwatch, after defeating Cassidy and helping Tala secure ultimate power, Jericho Cross rips Tala's jugular open and goes on to presumably take over the Wild West.
  • In The Suffering : Ties That Bind, Blackmore encourages Torque to kill Jordan, despite the fact that she's his most powerful ally and the two have a We Can Rule Together moment in the game's evil ending if you ignore him and spare her. Then again, this may simply be because Blackmore has zero impulse control.
  • The Neverhood game allows to choose this trope as one of its endings. Either you kick out the villain and take the crown for yourself, or rescue the legitimate king.
  • In Ultima Underworld II, Mors Gotha presents the We Can Rule Together offer to the Avatar. However, it's merely a ruse to get you to hand over a weapon; if you accept, she tells you that power was never meant to be shared, and proceeds to attack you.
  • Inverted and subverted in Dawn of War where Sindri is almost backstabbed by Brother-Librarian Isador for this reason but is quite ready for the attempt and betrays Isador first.
  • If you accept the Dragonlord's offer, he tells you "take a long, long rest." Cue the red text....
  • One of the possible ending choices in Alpha Protocol, depending on choices you make in the game. Depending on the contacts you made throughout you have varying levels of success with the aftermath - up to and including changing the entire course of global politics.
  • The first Streets of Rage has Mr. X posit the usual "join me and we can rule this town" spiel. Accepting it only serves to toss you back two stages. Two-player, however, works differently; both players can answer the question. If both answers are the same, it's akin to the single-player answers; if both players answer differently, however, a battle between the two players initiates. If the player who agreed to join Mr. X wins, the question is posited again; this time, you can say "no" and invoke this trope. The final boss with Mr. X begins as usual, but winning gives an exclusive "bad ending" showing you in charge of the X Syndicate.
  • In the original Ogre Battle, if you win with a low reputation, you take the throne of Zenobia by force. This is generally a Downer Ending, though one such ending is potentially less of a downer from your perspective. If you have a low alignment but a good Charisma, you build a Black Empire using dark magic.
  • You can pull this at the end of Singularity, where you can just vent both Barisov and Demichev rather than go with either of their options. This leads to the USSR collapsing, Katorga-12 blowing up, E99 mutants invading East Russia and you becoming supreme dictator of the United States of America.
    • One wonders why anyone would go along with Demichev's option, since he's basically asking you to hand the TMD over to him; he doesn't even have anything to offer you.
  • In Vampire Bloodlines, you can certainly TRY this by killing LaCroix and opening the Ankharan Sarcophagus yourself. Only it doesn't work at all like you had hoped. There's a reason you're repeatedly cautioned in-game not to open it.
  • This is the fourth possible ending in Fallout: New Vegas and can be either good or bad depending upon your actions throughout the game. The more people you helped the smoother the transition of power becomes in the ending montage and the people are more likely to accept you as their new ruler.
  • In Dark Messiah of Might and Magic, this is one of Sareth's options. Xana will actually advise you to do this instead of freeing the Demon Sovereign, since by that point she'd rather follow your lead than his.

Web Comics

Jacob: Neilen. Excellent. Now we can URGK!
Neilen: "We"? What do you mean "we"?

Western Animation

  • Used in an episode of The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy: After Eris slips up during her We Can Rule Together speech to Mandy, and says, "You'll be the second most powerful person on Earth," Mandy declines, saying only she can be the most powerful.
  • In Spider-Man: The Animated Series, Red Skull turns his son into a creature of immense power, Electro, and then proceeds to expand on how he is now going to conquer the world with Electro by his side. Electro asks why he should stand by anybody's side when he is the one with all the power, zaps his surprisingly unsavvy daddy and takes off to claim the world for himself.
    • His son also brings up the point that the Red Skull risked his life in the experiment. The Red Skull dismisses his son's complaints, saying that the risk was "minimal". This didn't exactly endear him to Electro.
  • Used in an episode of Disney's Gummi Bears, when Duke Igthorne makes the mistake of putting Toadwart, his subserviant dwarf ogre sidekick, into a suit of magic armor...
  • Bionicle: Web of Shadows: The Visorak King Sidorak has long offered to share his throne with his second-in-command Roodaka in the form of Unholy Matrimony. She bided her time to take him up on it, however, until she manipulated things in her favor; soon after which she said this and left him to die fighting a very strong, very angry enemy beast. (Unfortunately for her, the puppet general she'd set up flipped the script and gave Sidorak's armies an out, permitting them to reject her rule and abandon her for her treachery.)
    • Big Bad Makuta Teridax used his Brotherhood to complete his grand plan to seize power, committing Grand Theft Me on the resident Physical God and basically becoming one with the entire known world (revealed to be a truly gigantic robot), allowing him to control everything inside of it and then use it to conquer other planets. The moment this hijacking works out (and even a bit before that) he begins killing off his own species, as he believed the Makuta were the only ones with the knowledge and power required to execute "The Plan". While the original plan was for the rest of the Brotherhood to rule alongside their leader, only a few of them even thought of the possibility that they could be betrayed. Since their entire motivation for overthrowing the Great Spirit in the first place was pride and jealousy at being eternally below him on the ladder of power, of course Teridax didn't trust any one of them to not try and do it against him.
  • A variation in the Jonny Quest original series story "The Riddle of the Gold": the Maharaja tells Dr. Zinn's agent that soon they'll be the richest, most powerful men in the world. The agent poisons the Maharaja and declares, "There is room for only one richest, most powerful man in the world ... and he is Dr. Zinn." The agent is NOT Zinn in disguise. That's loyalty.