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Despite the name, Limyaael’s rants are not just for fantasy writers. She also has covered topics that are not limited to fantasy, like dialogue and romance, as well as more general topics like plotting and characterization. One of the features of the journal format is that Limyaael’s commenters also have much to say, from additional facts to opposing viewpoints.
Despite the name, Limyaael’s rants are not just for fantasy writers. She also has covered topics that are not limited to fantasy, like dialogue and romance, as well as more general topics like plotting and characterization. One of the features of the journal format is that Limyaael’s commenters also have much to say, from additional facts to opposing viewpoints.


The Rants used to be posted on [[Live Journal]], but Limyaael has moved to InsaneJournal. The Rants originally posted on LJ can still be accessed there, though.
The Rants used to be posted on [[LiveJournal]], but Limyaael has moved to InsaneJournal. The Rants originally posted on LJ can still be accessed there, though.


Limyaael’s Fantasy Rants are updated [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/ here]. The archive of Rants can be accessed [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/tag/ here], and [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/480442.html here], or [http://coyotecult.com/communities/sfandf_critters/references/limyaael.php here].
Limyaael’s Fantasy Rants are updated [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/ here]. The archive of Rants can be accessed [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/559559.html here], or [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/tag/ by tag], and [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/480442.html here], or [https://web.archive.org/web/20131011100422/http://coyotecult.com/communities/sfandf_critters/references/limyaael.php here] [http://curiosityquills.com/limyaael/]. (warning: some of tag links in both journals are dead, but posts are there)


Limyaael's rants were [[Schedule Slip|scarcely updated]] for a while starting around April 2008. In [http://www.journalfen.net/users/limyaael/65402.html this post] she explained the reasons, and the Rants were not updated until she had more free time. They started back up for a little while, then stopped again in May 2010. They have yet to resume as of May 2012.
Limyaael's rants were [[Schedule Slip|scarcely updated]] for a while starting around April 2008. In [https://web.archive.org/web/20130304090827/http://www.journalfen.net/users/limyaael/65402.html this post] she explained the reasons, and the Rants were not updated until she had more free time. They started back up for a little while, then stopped again (the last was May 28th, 2010). They have yet to resume (as of February 2017).


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{{tropelist|Tropes relevant to {{BASEPAGENAME}} }}
== Tropes Limyaael has specifically ranted about ==
== Tropes Limyaael has specifically ranted about ==
* [[Alien Tropes]] ([[Starfish Aliens]] vs. [[Rubber Forehead Aliens]] etc): "On alien species and worlds and keeping them alien" [//limyaael.livejournal.com/512213.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/434130.html (IJ)]
* [[Anachronic Order]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/357919.html non-linear narrative rant]
* [[Anachronic Order]]: non-linear narrative rant [//limyaael.livejournal.com/357919.html (LJ)]
* [[Animorphism]] and [[Shapeshifting]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/288509.html shapeshifters], [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/290393.html shapeshifter societies] and [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/47942.html blurring the distinction between the "human" part and the "animal part"].
* [[Animorphism]] and [[Shapeshifting]]: On shapeshifters [//limyaael.livejournal.com/288509.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/262839.html (IJ)], shapeshifter societies [//limyaael.livejournal.com/290393.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/264697.html (IJ)] and "Weird little rant on shapeshifting" (blurring the distinction between the "human" part and the "animal part") [//limyaael.livejournal.com/47942.html (LJ)].
* [[An Adventurer Is You]]: aversion: Rant on D&D stereotypes [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/266114.html] [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/244070.html]
* [[Anti-Villain]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/551157.html Non-villain rant]
* [[An Adventurer Is You]]: aversion: Rant on D&D stereotypes [//limyaael.livejournal.com/266114.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/244070.html (IJ)]
* [[Arranged Marriage]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/437418.html On escaping the arranged marriage trap]
* [[Anti-Villain]]: Non-villain rant [//limyaael.livejournal.com/551157.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/471881.html (IJ)]
* [[Author Avatar]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/450374.html Putting non-obvious bits of yourself in the story/characters]
* [[Arranged Marriage]]: On escaping the arranged marriage trap [//limyaael.livejournal.com/437418.html (LJ)]
* [[Author Avatar]]: Putting non-obvious bits of yourself in the story/characters [//limyaael.livejournal.com/450374.html (LJ)]
* [[Avoid Writing a Mary Sue]]: Many of her rants are devoted to this.
* [[Avoid Writing a Mary Sue]]: Many of her rants are devoted to this.
* [[Bond Creatures]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/180365.html Telcom rant]
* [[Bond Creatures]]: Telcom rant [//limyaael.livejournal.com/180365.html (LJ)]
* [[Con Lang]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/tag/conlangs conlangs]
* [[Con Lang]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/tag/conlangs conlangs]
* [[Creator's Pet]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/tag/author%27s%20darlings Author's Darlings]
* [[Creator's Pet]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/tag/author%27s%20darlings Author's Darlings]
* [[Cryptic Background Reference]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/539688.html Casual worldbuilding]
* [[Cryptic Background Reference]]: Casual worldbuilding [//limyaael.livejournal.com/539688.html (LJ)]
* [[Death Tropes]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/179073.html Death rant]
* [[Death Tropes]]: Death rant [//limyaael.livejournal.com/179073.html (LJ)]
* [[Deus Angst Machina]]: "Rant on abuse of abused characters" [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/200469.html]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/187189.html#cutid1], "Ten ways of managing angst" [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/534773.html]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/456083.html]
* [[Deus Angst Machina]]: "Rant on abuse of abused characters" [//limyaael.livejournal.com/200469.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/187189.html (IJ)], "Ten ways of managing angst" [//limyaael.livejournal.com/534773.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/456083.html (IJ)]
* [[Diabolus Ex Machina]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/499234.html Raining shit on the story and not letting it stink]
* [[Diabolus Ex Machina]]: Raining shit on the story and not letting it stink [//limyaael.livejournal.com/499234.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/421459.html (IJ)]
* [[Dream Tropes]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/172176.html Dream rant]
* [[Dream Tropes]]: Dream rant [//limyaael.livejournal.com/172176.html (LJ)]
* [[Easy Amnesia]] [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/322254.html Rant on amnesia/amnesiac characters]
* [[Easy Amnesia]] Rant on amnesia/amnesiac characters [//limyaael.livejournal.com/322254.html (LJ)]
* [[Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/451084.html Rant on elemental magic]
* [[Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors]]: Rant on elemental magic [//limyaael.livejournal.com/451084.html (LJ)]
* [[Evil Overlord]]: aversion: Rant on creating non-Dark Lord villains [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/310509.html]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/279570.html]
* [[Ending Tropes]], [[Feghoot]]: Smooth endings rant [//limyaael.livejournal.com/390116.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/343427.html (IJ)]
* [[Evil Overlord]] (and [[Mordor]]): aversion thereof - Rant on creating non-Dark Lord villains [//limyaael.livejournal.com/310509.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/279570.html (IJ)]
** [[Mordor]]
* [[Fate and Prophecy Tropes]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/132132.html Destiny and prophecies rant]
* [[Fantastic Caste System]]: "Class/caste systems" [//limyaael.livejournal.com/569204.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/489514.html (IJ)]
* [[Final Battle]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/149083.html The final battle]
* [[Fantasy Kitchen Sink]]: "Throwing out the kitchen sink" [//limyaael.livejournal.com/243441.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/226294.html (IJ)]
** aversion: There are other ways to end a fantasy book than battle [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/149698.html]
* [[Fate and Prophecy Tropes]]: Destiny and prophecies rant [//limyaael.livejournal.com/132132.html (LJ)]
* [[Foreshadowing]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/483388.html Subtle foreshadowing rant]
* [[Feral Child]]: Feral child rant [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/287234.html (IJ)]
* [[Half-Human Hybrid]]: Half-breed heroes [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/152437.html].
* [[Final Battle]]: The final battle [//limyaael.livejournal.com/149083.html (LJ)]
* [[Hooker with a Heart of Gold]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/570326.html Rant on whores]
** aversion: There are other ways to end a fantasy book than battle [//limyaael.livejournal.com/149698.html (LJ)]
* [[Idiot Ball]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/213893.html And are your characters sane today?]; also, "Stupid plots rant - Last Herald-Mage spoilers" [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/210353.html]
* [[Foreshadowing]]: Subtle foreshadowing rant [//limyaael.livejournal.com/483388.html (LJ)]
* [[Idiot Plot]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/441094.html Idiot plots, and how to avoid them]
* [[God Mode Sue]]: Means of prevention. "Ten ways of making all-powerful, unique protagonists tolerable" [//limyaael.livejournal.com/532302.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/453737.html (IJ)]
* [[IKEA Erotica]]: [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/427383.html If it’s just Tab A and Slot B, there’s a problem].
* [[Half-Human Hybrid]]: Half-breed heroes [//limyaael.livejournal.com/152437.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/141787.html (IJ)]
* [[Ineffectual Loner]]: aversion: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/421560.html Making convincing loner characters]
* [[Hooker with a Heart of Gold]]: Rant on whores [//limyaael.livejournal.com/570326.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/490547.html (IJ)]
* [[Info Dump]]: aversion: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/186438.html Avoiding infodumps]
* [[Idiot Ball]]: And are your characters sane today? [//limyaael.livejournal.com/213893.html (LJ)]
* [[Idiot Plot]]: Idiot plots, and how to avoid them [//limyaael.livejournal.com/441094.html (LJ)]; also, "Stupid plots rant - Last Herald-Mage spoilers" [//limyaael.livejournal.com/210353.html (LJ)]; some of "Rant on slippery-slope plotting" [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/283798.html (IJ)]
* [[La Résistance]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/182857.html secret groups rant], which is mostly limited to resistance groups.
* [[Loads and Loads of Characters]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/451697.html Rant on handling a large cast of view]
* [[IKEA Erotica]]: If it’s just Tab A and Slot B, there’s a problem [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/427383.html (IJ)].
* [[Love At First Sight]]: aversion: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/345153.html Non-bickering, non-love at first sight relationships]
* [[Ineffectual Loner]]: aversion: Making convincing loner characters [//limyaael.livejournal.com/421560.html (LJ)]
* [[Love Triangle]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/482880.html What it takes to make Limyaael love a love triangle]
* [[Info Dump]]: aversion: "Avoiding infodumps" [//limyaael.livejournal.com/186438.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/173969.html (IJ)]
* [[Magic A Is Magic A]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/413306.html Limitations on magic rant]
* [[La Résistance]]: secret groups rant [//limyaael.livejournal.com/182857.html (LJ)], which is mostly limited to resistance groups.
* [[Mentors]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/554442.html Mentor rant]
* [[Loads and Loads of Characters]]: Rant on handling a large cast of view [//limyaael.livejournal.com/451697.html (LJ)]
* [[Medieval European Fantasy]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/tag/world-building:+medieval Medieval Societies]
* [[Love At First Sight]]: aversion: Non-bickering, non-love at first sight relationships [//limyaael.livejournal.com/345153.html (LJ)]
** aversions: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/273684.html On stepping out of medieval fantasy parts one] [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/275089.html and two]
* [[Love Triangle]]: What it takes to make Limyaael love a love triangle [//limyaael.livejournal.com/482880.html (LJ)]
* [[Medieval Stasis]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/463451.html Keeping static worlds plausible]
* [[Magic A Is Magic A]]: Limitations on magic rant [//limyaael.livejournal.com/413306.html (LJ)]
* [[Magic and Powers]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/tag/world-building:+magic Magic Rants]
* [[Mentors]]: Mentor rant [//limyaael.livejournal.com/554442.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/475290.html (IJ)]
* [[Mindlink Mates]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/180565.html One of Limyaael's most hated tropes]
* [[Medieval European Fantasy]]: [https://web.archive.org/web/20080511032437/http://limyaael.livejournal.com/tag/world-building:+medieval Medieval Societies]
** aversions: "On stepping out of medieval fantasy" parts one [//limyaael.livejournal.com/273684.html (LJ)] and two [//limyaael.livejournal.com/275089.html (LJ)]; "On using non-Western influence in fantasy" [//limyaael.livejournal.com/564695.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/485011.html (IJ)]
* [[Medieval Stasis]]: Keeping static worlds plausible [//limyaael.livejournal.com/463451.html (LJ)]
* [[Magic and Powers]]: World-building: magic rants [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/tag/world-building:+magic]{{Dead link}}
* [[Mindlink Mates]]: One of Limyaael's most hated tropes [//limyaael.livejournal.com/180565.html (LJ)]
* [[Monologuing]]: Rant on avoiding a villain monologue [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/545749.html (IJ)].
* [[Our Monsters Are Different]]
* [[Our Monsters Are Different]]
** [[Our Demons Are Different]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/304066.html Demon Rant]
** [[Our Demons Are Different]]: Demon Rant [//limyaael.livejournal.com/304066.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/274833.html (IJ)]
** [[Our Dragons Are Different]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/134532.html Rant on dragons]
** [[Our Dragons Are Different]]: Rant on dragons [//limyaael.livejournal.com/134532.html (LJ)]
** [[Our Dwarves Are All the Same]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/137511.html The Dwarves' Turn]
** [[Our Dwarves Are All the Same]]: The Dwarves' Turn [//limyaael.livejournal.com/137511.html (LJ)]
** [[Our Elves Are Better]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/136885.html Why Are Elves Always This Way?] (also covers [[Can't Argue with Elves]] and [[Mary Suetopia]])
** [[Our Elves Are Better]]: Why Are Elves Always This Way? [//limyaael.livejournal.com/136885.html (LJ)] (also covers [[Can't Argue with Elves]] and [[Mary Suetopia]])
** [[Our Ghosts Are Different]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/298366.html Ghost rant]
** [[Our Ghosts Are Different]]: Ghost rant [//limyaael.livejournal.com/298366.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/271014.html (IJ)]
** [[Our Vampires Are Different]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/293983.html Vampire rant]
** [[Our Vampires Are Different]]: Vampire rant [//limyaael.livejournal.com/293983.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/267716.html (IJ)]
** [[Our Werewolves Are Different]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/452888.html Rant on non-angsty werewolves]
** [[Our Werewolves Are Different]]: Rant on non-angsty werewolves [//limyaael.livejournal.com/452888.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/378983.html (IJ)]
* [[Parody Tropes]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/155678.html Parody fantasy]
* [[Parody Tropes]]: Parody fantasy [//limyaael.livejournal.com/155678.html (LJ)]
* [[Physical God]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/443419.html Beings of extreme power rant]
* [[Physical God]]: Beings of extreme power rant [//limyaael.livejournal.com/443419.html (LJ)]
* [[Planet of Hats]]: "Avoiding gimmick-worlds" rant [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/524485.html] [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/446010.html]
* [[Planet of Hats]]: "Avoiding gimmick-worlds" rant [//limyaael.livejournal.com/524485.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/446010.html (IJ)]
* [[Psychic Power]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/361455.html Psychic powers rant]
* [[Professional Killer]]: On assassin characters [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/242313.html (IJ)]
* [[Psychic Power]]: Psychic powers rant [//limyaael.livejournal.com/361455.html (LJ)]
* [[Point of View]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/tag/viewpoint%20rants Viewpoint rants]
* [[Point of View]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/tag/viewpoint%20rants Viewpoint rants]
** [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/183735.html Problems and Promises of First-Person Fantasy]
** Problems and Promises of First-Person Fantasy [//limyaael.livejournal.com/183735.html (LJ)]
* [[Queer As Tropes]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/214314.html Rant on gay and lesbian characters in fantasy]
* [[Queer As Tropes]]: Rant on gay and lesbian characters in fantasy [//limyaael.livejournal.com/214314.html (LJ)]
* [[Refusal of the Call]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/466351.html Making good reluctant heroes]
* [[Refusal of the Call]]: Making good reluctant heroes [//limyaael.livejournal.com/466351.html (LJ)]
* [[The Resistance]]: Rebel rant - parts first [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/227107.html] and second [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/229270.html].
* [[The Resistance]]: Rebel rant - parts first [//limyaael.livejournal.com/244534.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/227107.html (IJ)] and second [//limyaael.livejournal.com/246992.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/229270.html (IJ)].
* [[Roma]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/339854.html Rant on gypsies and nomadic peoples]
* [[Roma]]: Rant on gypsies and nomadic peoples [//limyaael.livejournal.com/339854.html (LJ)]
* [[Rouge Angles of Satin]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/173744.html Several] [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/174456.html rants] [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/175234.html on] [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/176379.html grammar] [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/159641.html and words]
* [[Rouge Angles of Satin]]: Several rants on grammar and words [//limyaael.livejournal.com/173744.html (LJ)] [//limyaael.livejournal.com/174456.html (LJ)] [//limyaael.livejournal.com/175234.html (LJ)] [//limyaael.livejournal.com/176379.html (LJ)] [//limyaael.livejournal.com/159641.html (LJ)]
* [[Save Both Worlds]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/456043.html Rant on juxtaposed worlds]
* [[Save Both Worlds]]: Rant on juxtaposed worlds [//limyaael.livejournal.com/456043.html (LJ)]
* [[Science Fantasy]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/577404.html Science fiction and fantasy hybrids]
* [[Science Fantasy]]: [https://web.archive.org/web/20120307073850/http://limyaael.livejournal.com/577404.html Science fiction and fantasy hybrids]
* [[Sci Fi Ghetto]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/30956.html Why I get impatient with clichéd fantasy]. <-- Limyaael's original rant.
* [[Sci Fi Ghetto]]: Why I get impatient with clichéd fantasy [//limyaael.livejournal.com/30956.html (LJ)]. <-- Limyaael's original rant.
* [[Sex Tropes]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/178737.html Sex in fantasy novels]
* (Stock and not-so-stock) [[Settings]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/tag/setting%20rants setting rants]
* [[Shallow Love Interest]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/377262.html Designated Love Interest rant]
** [[Grim Up North]]: Life in a northern town [//limyaael.livejournal.com/164689.html (LJ)].
* [[Slap Slap Kiss]]: aversion: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/345153.html Non-bickering, non-love at first sight relationships]
** [[Thirsty Desert]]: Out of the frying pan and into the desert. [//limyaael.livejournal.com/166686.html (LJ)]
* [[Sociopathic Hero]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/465392.html Rant on creating likeable bastard characters]; [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/420559.html Rant on sociopathic characters]
** [[Hungry Jungle]]: Sounds of the jungle. [//limyaael.livejournal.com/167123.html (LJ)]
** [[Ocean Punk]]/[[Wooden Ships and Iron Men]]: "Yo ho ho and a bottle of...something. [//limyaael.livejournal.com/167876.html (LJ)]" and "Rant on island life" [//limyaael.livejournal.com/328250.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/291932.html (IJ)].
* [[Standard Fantasy Setting]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/181634.html On escaping Tolkien clichés]
* [[Take That]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/302111.html Fantasy of excess: Rant on Jordan and Goodkind]
* [[Sex Tropes]]: Sex in fantasy novels [//limyaael.livejournal.com/178737.html (LJ)]
* [[The Amazon]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/167123.html Sounds of the jungle]
* [[Shallow Love Interest]]: Designated Love Interest rant [//limyaael.livejournal.com/377262.html (LJ)]
* [[Slap Slap Kiss]]: aversion: Non-bickering, non-love at first sight relationships [//limyaael.livejournal.com/345153.html (LJ)]
* [[The Empire]]: writing empires part one [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/387736.html] [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/341501.html] and two [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/388795.html] [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/342456.html]
* [[The Runaway]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/158741.html Fantasy teenage runaways]
* [[Sociopathic Hero]]: Rant on creating likeable bastard characters [//limyaael.livejournal.com/465392.html (LJ)]; Rant on sociopathic characters [//limyaael.livejournal.com/420559.html (LJ)]
* [[Through the Eyes of Madness]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/486481.html Writing a psychotic viewpoint character]
* [[Standard Fantasy Setting]]: On escaping Tolkien clichés [//limyaael.livejournal.com/181634.html (LJ)]
* [[True Companions]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/406860.html Rant on friendships]
* [[Story Within a Story]]: "To put, or not to put" [//limyaael.livejournal.com/224612.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/208820.html (IJ)]
* [[True Neutral]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/457449.html Neutral character rant]
* [[Take That]]: Fantasy of excess: Rant on Jordan and Goodkind [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/302111.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/273527.html (IJ)]
* [[TV Genius]] [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/405720.html Rant on genius characters]
* [[The Amazon]]: Sounds of the jungle [//limyaael.livejournal.com/167123.html (LJ)]
* [[Twin Tropes]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/467940.html Twins rant]
* [[The Empire]]: writing empires part one [//limyaael.livejournal.com/387736.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/341501.html (IJ)] and two [//limyaael.livejournal.com/388795.html (LJ)] [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/342456.html (IJ)]
* [[Unreliable Narrator]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/442378.html Showing your viewpoint character as not 100% correct]
* [[The Runaway]]: Fantasy teenage runaways [//limyaael.livejournal.com/158741.html (LJ)]
* [[Urban Fantasy]]: [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/177827.html On urban fantasy]
* [[Through the Eyes of Madness]]: Writing a psychotic viewpoint character [//limyaael.livejournal.com/486481.html (LJ)]
* [[True Companions]]: Rant on friendships [//limyaael.livejournal.com/406860.html (LJ)]
* [[True Neutral]]: Neutral character rant [//limyaael.livejournal.com/457449.html (LJ)]
* [[TV Genius]] Rant on genius characters [//limyaael.livejournal.com/405720.html (LJ)]
* [[Twin Tropes]]: Twins rant [//limyaael.livejournal.com/467940.html (LJ)]
* [[Unreliable Narrator]]: Showing your viewpoint character as not 100% correct [//limyaael.livejournal.com/442378.html (LJ)]
* [[Urban Fantasy]]: "On urban fantasy." [//limyaael.livejournal.com/177827.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/165351.html (IJ)]
* [[Wangst]]: Unsurprisingly, it's one of recurring issues, so there's a special tag for it: "Rants on angst" [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/tag/rants%20on%20angst] [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/tag/rants+on+angst]
* [[Wangst]]: Unsurprisingly, it's one of recurring issues, so there's a special tag for it: "Rants on angst" [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/tag/rants%20on%20angst] [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/tag/rants+on+angst]
* [[Winged Humanoid]]: [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/509267.html Rant on winged humanoids]
* [[Winged Humanoid]]: Rant on winged humanoids [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/509267.html (IJ)]



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== Tropes that have been mentioned or discussed on the side while ranting about any of the above topics ==
== Tropes that have been mentioned or discussed on the side while ranting about any of the above topics ==
* [[Automaton Horses]]: "Amazing Mechanical Horses" are regularly mentioned, including Animal rant [//limyaael.livejournal.com/133540.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/123428.html (IJ)] and "Rant on fantasy travel" [//limyaael.livejournal.com/327352.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/291352.html (IJ)] starts with "Animals are not machine".
* [[Changed My Mind, Kid]]: In the Rant on slippery-slope plotting. ("We’ve changed our minds! Because it was time for a plot turn!") [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/283798.html (IJ)]
* [[Chekhov's Gun]]: Though she didn't use the term, her rant on subtle foreshadowing favors elements that aren't supposed to be noticed the first time around.
* [[Chekhov's Gun]]: Though she didn't use the term, her rant on subtle foreshadowing favors elements that aren't supposed to be noticed the first time around.
* [[Come with Me If You Want to Live]]: In the Rant on slippery-slope plotting. [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/283798.html (IJ)]
* [[Convection, Schmonvection]]: Limyaael's rant on dragons notes that if your dragon can breathe fire hot enough to ''melt solid rock'', it's probably going to do more than just "make a hero's jacket smolder" in the process.
* [[Convection, Schmonvection]]: Limyaael's rant on dragons notes that if your dragon can breathe fire hot enough to ''melt solid rock'', it's probably going to do more than just "make a hero's jacket smolder" in the process.
* [[Counterproductive Propaganda]]: In the "Propaganda rant" [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/372799.html]
* [[Counterproductive Propaganda]]: In the "Propaganda rant" [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/372799.html (IJ)]
* [[Cult of Personality]]: By [[Mary Sue|necessity]], the issue pops up now and then, such as in "Rant on creating good rulers" [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/293840.html] and "Rebel rant" (parts first [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/227107.html] and second [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/229270.html]).
* [[Cult of Personality]]: By [[Mary Sue|necessity]], the issue pops up now and then, such as in "Rant on creating good rulers" [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/293840.html (IJ)] and "Rebel rant" (parts first [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/227107.html (IJ)] and second [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/229270.html (IJ)]).
* [[Easy Evangelism]]: In "Rant on loyalty" [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/547070.html] and "Avoiding gimmick-worlds" [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/524485.html]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/446010.html]
* [[Easy Evangelism]]: In "Rant on loyalty" [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/547070.html (IJ)] and "Avoiding gimmick-worlds" [//limyaael.livejournal.com/524485.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/446010.html (IJ)]
** Also with [[Evil Minions]]/[[Gullible Lemmings]]: in "Propaganda rant" [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/372799.html]
** Also with [[Evil Minions]]/[[Gullible Lemmings]]: in "Propaganda rant" [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/372799.html (IJ)]
* [[Everything's Even Worse with Sharks]]: "(Poor sharks. The authors have them show up, but how often do they feed them? Not often)." [//limyaael.livejournal.com/167876.html (LJ)]
* [[Gameplay and Story Segregation]]: Limyaael's rant on D&D gameplay mechanics notes that while many of those rules made perfect sense ''in a gaming environment'', they don't translate well into a narrative environment, if at all. (Seriously, why do those wizards ''need'' to keep memorizing the same spells over and over?)
* [[Gameplay and Story Segregation]]: Limyaael's rant on D&D gameplay mechanics notes that while many of those rules made perfect sense ''in a gaming environment'', they don't translate well into a narrative environment, if at all. (Seriously, why do those wizards ''need'' to keep memorizing the same spells over and over?)
* [[Humans Are the Real Monsters]]: Almost any rant about elves, demi-humans, non-humans, etc. will invoke a comparison of the non-human species being in complete and utter harmony with their environment while the humans are hellbent on destroying it.
* [[Humans Are the Real Monsters]]: Almost any rant about elves, demi-humans, non-humans, etc. will invoke a comparison of the non-human species being in complete and utter harmony with their environment while the humans are hellbent on destroying it.
* [[Improbable Species Compatibility]] / [[Shapeshifting Squick]]: During her rant about half-human heroes, she says that as much as an author wants to just say "[[Bellisario's Maxim|don't think about it]]" when asked how the "mechanics" of it work, the author is the one person who '''should''' be putting more thought into it than anyone else.
* [[Improbable Species Compatibility]] / [[Shapeshifting Squick]]: During her rant about half-human heroes, she says that as much as an author wants to just say "[[Bellisario's Maxim|don't think about it]]" when asked how the "mechanics" of it work, the author is the one person who '''should''' be putting more thought into it than anyone else.
* [[Misapplied Phlebotinum]]: Here and there, including Propaganda rant [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/372799.html]
* [[Instant Messenger Pigeon]]: In "Rant on technology in fantasy" [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/288370.html (IJ)]
* [[Masquerade]]: In urban fantasy rant: [//limyaael.livejournal.com/177827.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/165351.html (IJ)]
* [[Misapplied Phlebotinum]]: Here and there, including Propaganda rant [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/372799.html (IJ)]
* [[No Periods, Period]]: When discussing full-moon-bound werewolves, Limyaael notes that even a woman's monthly period gets better care than full moon werewolf angst. Assuming the author even bothered to think about that, of course.
* [[No Periods, Period]]: When discussing full-moon-bound werewolves, Limyaael notes that even a woman's monthly period gets better care than full moon werewolf angst. Assuming the author even bothered to think about that, of course.
* [[Realism]]: Pick a rant, any rant, and odds are it's about adding more realism.
* [[Realism]]: Pick a rant, any rant, and odds are it's about adding more realism.
* [[Rightful King Returns]]: In "Stupid plots rant - Last Herald-Mage spoilers" [http://limyaael.livejournal.com/210353.html]
* [[The Revolution Will Not Be Civilized]]: Rebel rant, part second [//limyaael.livejournal.com/246992.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/229270.html (IJ)].
* [[Show, Don't Tell]]/[[Informed Attribute]]: All the time, e.g. the "[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/293840.html Rant on creating good rulers]" starts with this.
* [[Rightful King Returns]]: Some of "Rant on slippery-slope plotting" [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/283798.html (IJ)] and "Stupid plots rant - Last Herald-Mage spoilers" [//limyaael.livejournal.com/210353.html (LJ)]
* [[Show, Don't Tell]]/[[Informed Attribute]]: All the time, e.g. the "Rant on creating good rulers [http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/293840.html (IJ)]" starts with this.
* [[Tail Slap]]: When discussing dragons, Limyaael notes that the whip of a crocodile's tail packs enough brute force to kill an average human being. So what would a dragon's tail do? "Probably ''not'' cause light wounds."
* [[Tail Slap]]: When discussing dragons, Limyaael notes that the whip of a crocodile's tail packs enough brute force to kill an average human being. So what would a dragon's tail do? "Probably ''not'' cause light wounds."
* [[Terminally Dependent Society]]: "Avoiding gimmick-worlds" rant [//limyaael.livejournal.com/524485.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/446010.html (IJ)]
* [[Unnecessarily Large Interior]]: Both rants on sea: "Yo ho ho and a bottle of...something" [//limyaael.livejournal.com/167876.html (LJ)] and "Rant on island life" [//limyaael.livejournal.com/328250.html (LJ)]/[http://limyaael.insanejournal.com/291932.html (IJ)].
{{quote|Take the amount of knowledge most fantasy authors have about horses, as discussed in the last rant. Now take half that knowledge. Now halve the half. This seems to be about the amount the average fantasy author knows about ocean-going, pre-twentieth century ships without doing research.
I mean, at least most fantasists know the approximate size of a horse. They know that writing a horse as squeezing into a gopher hole is insane. Yet they write about roomy ships that apparently have dozens of cabins for rich passengers, and all the room for horses that those passengers’ hearts could desire, while the crew turns invisible when not needed and violates the law of conservation of mass when present.}}
* [[Unusually Uninteresting Sight]]: During her rant about "telcoms", Limyaael wonders how a character can just waltz into a town with a telepathic wolf/dragon/whatever by their side and ''nobody'' even bats an eye at it, much less try to chase it out of town or kill it. ''Especially'' when the creature being a telepathic companion is kept secret, and "the hunters have no reason ''not'' to shoot a dangerous beast who shows little fear of humans and is lurking around the village."
* [[Unusually Uninteresting Sight]]: During her rant about "telcoms", Limyaael wonders how a character can just waltz into a town with a telepathic wolf/dragon/whatever by their side and ''nobody'' even bats an eye at it, much less try to chase it out of town or kill it. ''Especially'' when the creature being a telepathic companion is kept secret, and "the hunters have no reason ''not'' to shoot a dangerous beast who shows little fear of humans and is lurking around the village."


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== Tropes that manifest in the rants themselves ==
== Tropes that manifest in the rants themselves ==
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Latest revision as of 05:29, 24 September 2019

Limyaael is an English graduate student studying for her Ph.D. In 2003, she decided to express her views on fantasy literature in a rant entitled Why I get impatient with clichéd fantasy. Since then, she has written more rants on her online journal.

Despite the name, Limyaael’s rants are not just for fantasy writers. She also has covered topics that are not limited to fantasy, like dialogue and romance, as well as more general topics like plotting and characterization. One of the features of the journal format is that Limyaael’s commenters also have much to say, from additional facts to opposing viewpoints.

The Rants used to be posted on LiveJournal, but Limyaael has moved to InsaneJournal. The Rants originally posted on LJ can still be accessed there, though.

Limyaael’s Fantasy Rants are updated here. The archive of Rants can be accessed here, or by tag, and here, or here [1]. (warning: some of tag links in both journals are dead, but posts are there)

Limyaael's rants were scarcely updated for a while starting around April 2008. In this post she explained the reasons, and the Rants were not updated until she had more free time. They started back up for a little while, then stopped again (the last was May 28th, 2010). They have yet to resume (as of February 2017).


Tropes relevant to Limyaael's Fantasy Rants

Tropes Limyaael has specifically ranted about


Tropes that have been mentioned or discussed on the side while ranting about any of the above topics

Take the amount of knowledge most fantasy authors have about horses, as discussed in the last rant. Now take half that knowledge. Now halve the half. This seems to be about the amount the average fantasy author knows about ocean-going, pre-twentieth century ships without doing research.
I mean, at least most fantasists know the approximate size of a horse. They know that writing a horse as squeezing into a gopher hole is insane. Yet they write about roomy ships that apparently have dozens of cabins for rich passengers, and all the room for horses that those passengers’ hearts could desire, while the crew turns invisible when not needed and violates the law of conservation of mass when present.

  • Unusually Uninteresting Sight: During her rant about "telcoms", Limyaael wonders how a character can just waltz into a town with a telepathic wolf/dragon/whatever by their side and nobody even bats an eye at it, much less try to chase it out of town or kill it. Especially when the creature being a telepathic companion is kept secret, and "the hunters have no reason not to shoot a dangerous beast who shows little fear of humans and is lurking around the village."


Tropes that manifest in the rants themselves