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{{quote|'''British Soldier:''' Taste my sword, French person!<br />
'''French Soldier:''' No! Wait! We are allies! This is World War I!<br />
'''British Soldier:''' I'm terribly sorry! I thought it was the Hundred Years War! Does this mean I can kill Italians?<br />
'''French Soldier:''' (consulting manual) No, I'm afraid not. Not until World War II.|'''[[Dave Barry]]''', "A Rash Proposal"}}
|'''[[Dave Barry]]''', "A Rash Proposal"}}
 
The fun part? You get to pick your war. Either of the World Wars, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War I, Gulf War II, ... [[Military and Warfare Tropes|the list is pretty long]]. The [[Cold War]] and the Drug War are out of bounds, though.
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While we're on the subject, please note that you may rely on the audience already knowing that [[War Is Hell]]. Hopefully, you will have something additional to say.
 
Of note in this topic is ''[[Gomer Pyle, USMCU.S.M.C.]]'', notable for being made and presumably taking place during the Vietnam War. No mention of that conflict or country is ever made, and the Marines in Gomer's unit just ride out a dark chapter in US military history on the home front, seemingly unaware that anything war-like is happening, as they blunder through misadventure after misadventure. Of a longer scale to this is ''[[Beetle Bailey]]'', whose title character joined the Army during the Korean War, and has blundered through over 50 years of US conflict.
 
The roles of the air forces and navies were rarely covered, owing to the fact that TV budgets don't cover Spitfire hire. However, during the 40's hundreds of Hollywood [[Movies]] were made about the then-ongoing Second World War. The ready availability of props and mock-ups, as well as real [[Stock Footage]], made shows about pilots and sailors possible then. In several series, like ''[[Black Sheep Squadron]]'' and ''[[McHales Navy|McHale's Navy]]'', most of the action focused on antics carried out on base, to cut down on the necessary combat footage.
 
Note: the [[Only Fools and Horses|correct pronunciation]] is "[[British Accents|JOO-rin-na WAW-ah]]".
 
Contrast [[War Was Beginning]].
{{examples|Examples}}
 
== [[Real Life]] Wars ==
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** ''[[Rome]]''
* Norman Conquest
** ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]''
* The Crusades
** ''[[Assassin's Creed]]''
** ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]''
** ''[[Kingdom of Heaven]]''
** ''[[Robin Hood]]''
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** ''[[Pillars Of The Earth]]''
* Wars of the Roses
** ''[[Black AdderBlackadder|The Black Adder]]''
* Sengoku Jidai
** Too many [[Jidai Geki]] to count
* The Ottoman-Safavid Wars
** Referenced several times in ''[[My Name Is Red (Literature)|My Name Is Red]]''.
* [[English Civil War]]
** ''[[Black AdderBlackadder]]: the Cavalier Years''
* Glorious Revolution
** ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]''
* Frontier "Indian Wars" (so-called)
** ''[[F Troop]]''
* French Revolution
** ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]''
* [[World War One|World War I]]
** ''[[ANZA CsANZACs]]''
** ''[[A Very Long Engagement]]'' - Features a wide panorama of warfare of the age (though all taking place on the Somme) and the post-war period.
** ''[[Black AdderBlackadder]] Goes Forth'' - Pushed the 'war is hell' angle for laughs and succeeded, until the last episode where they pushed the 'war is hell'' angle for tragedy. [[Tear Jerker|And succeeded]]
** ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]''
** ''Galipolli''
** ''[[Grand Illusion]]''- French 1938 film about French officers in a German prison camp
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** ''[[Paths of Glory]]''
** ''Sergeant York''
** ''[[Torchwood (TV)|Torchwood]]''
* Irish War of Independence
** ''[[Michael Collins]]''
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* [[World War II]]
** ''[[A Bridge Too Far]]'' - Operation Market-Garden, and its ultimate failure, the Allied attempt to break through German lines and seize several bridges in the occupied Netherlands.
** ''[['Allo 'Allo (TV)!|Allo Allo]]'' (portrayed all sides, German, British, French, Italian, as incompetent fools, and lasted for ten years)
** ''[[Band of Brothers]]'' - Follows Easy Company (of 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division) from training through the end of the war, including D-Day, Market Garden, and Bastogne.
** ''The Battle of Britain'' - where the movie budget did cover Spitfire hire, and Hurricane hire, and Me109 hire and He111 hire from the Spanish Airforce.
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** ''[[Das Boot]]''
** ''[[Call of Duty]]'' - Discounting the ''[[Modern Warfare]]'' spinoff series and ''Black Ops''.
** ''[[Captain America: theThe First Avenger]]''
** ''Combat''
** ''[[Company of Heroes]]''
** ''[[DadsDad's Army (TV)|Dads Army]]''
** ''[[The DambustersDam Busters]]''
** ''[[Danger UXB (TV)|Danger UXB]]''
** ''[[The Dirty Dozen]]''
** ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]''
** ''The Eagle Has Landed''
** ''[[The English Patient]]''
** ''[[Flags of Ourour Fathers]]''
** ''[[The Great Escape]]'' - Realistic Prison Camp
** ''The Great Raid''
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*** ''[[Force 10 From Navarone]]''
** ''[[Hogan's Heroes]]'' - Comic Prison Camp
** ''[[It AintAin't Half Hot Mum]]''
** ''[[Jackboots Onon Whitehall]]''
** ''Jeux interdits'' (English title: ''Forbidden Games'')
** ''[[KellysKelly's Heroes]]'' - ''The Italian Job'' {{smallcaps|[[During the War]]!}}
** ''[[Letters From Iwo Jima]]''
** ''[[The Longest Day]]'' - D-Day
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** ''Operation Peticoat''
** ''Pearl Harbor''
** ''[[The Rat Patrol (TV)|The Rat Patrol]]''
** ''[[Saving Private Ryan]]''
** ''[[Secret Army]]''
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** ''[[The Thin Red Line]]''
** ''To Hell and Back''
** ''[[Tora! Tora! Tora!]]'' - Named for the code words used by the Japanese to signal that the Pearl Harbor attack had been successful.
** ''[[Torchwood (TV)|Torchwood]]''
** ''[[Valkyria Chronicles]]'', though some elements also let it fit as [[World War OneI]].
** ''[[Valkyrie (Filmfilm)|Valkyrie]]''
** Various [[Wartime Cartoon|Wartime Cartoons]]s
** ''[[Wolfenstein 3D (Video Game)|Wolfenstein 3D]]''
* First Indochina War
** ''[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104105/ Diên Biên Phú]''
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* [[Korean War]]
** ''The Manchurian Candidate'' (original version).
** ''[[MASHM*A*S*H (television)|M*A*S*H]]'' (which, oddly enough, lasted much longer than the active hostilities during the Korean War did!)
** ''Pork Chop Hill''
* Algerian War of Independence
** ''[[The Battle of Algiers]]''
* [[Vietnam War]]
** ''[[American Dreams (TV)|American Dreams]]''
** ''[[Apocalypse Now]]''
** [[The A-Team (TV)|The A-Team]]
** ''Bat 21''
** ''[[Battlefield Vietnam]]''
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** ''The Deer Hunter''
** ''First Blood''
** ''[[Flight of the Intruder (Filmfilm)|Flight of the Intruder]]'' (both versions)
** ''Forrest Gump''
** ''Full Metal Jacket''
** ''[[Gomer Pyle, USMCU.S.M.C.]]''
** ''[[The Green Berets]]''
** ''Missing in Action''
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** ''Courage Under Fire''
** ''[[Jarhead]]''
** ''[[The Manchurian Candidate (novel)|The Manchurian Candidate]]'' (remake)
** ''[[Three Kings]]''
* [[The War Onon Terror|War in Afghanistan (2001)]]
** ''[[Iron Man (Filmfilm)|Iron Man]]'' (the movie)
* [[The War Onon Terror|Iraq War]]
** ''[[Generation Kill]]''
** ''[[Green Zone]]''
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* [[Alien Invasion]]
** ''[[Battlefield Earth]]''
** ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]''
** ''[[Footfall (Literature)|Footfall]]''
** ''[[Halo]]''
** ''[[Independence Day]]''
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* [[Bug War]]
** ''[[Blue Gender]]''
** ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]''
** ''Ender's Game'' (First book and ''Ender's Shadow'')
** ''[[Macross Frontier]]''
** ''Outer Limits'' (new version, several episodes)
** ''[[Space: Above and Beyond]]''
** ''[[StarcraftStarCraft]]''
** ''[[Starship Troopers (Literaturenovel)|Starship Troopers]]''
** ''[[Warhammer 40000 (Tabletop Game)|Warhammer 4000040,000]]'' (Tyranids)
** ''[[Wing Commander (Videovideo Gamegame)|Wing Commander]] Prophecy''
* [[Demonic Invaders]]
** ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]''
** ''[[Supernatural (TV series)|Supernatural]]''
** ''[[Warhammer 40000 (Tabletop Game)|Warhammer 4000040,000]]'' (Chaos)
* Interstellar Civil War
** ''[[Firefly (TV series)|Firefly]]''
** ''[[Star Wars]]''
** ''[[Transformers]]''
** ''[[Warhammer 40000 (Tabletop Game)|Warhammer 4000040,000]]'' (Chaos again)
** [[Wing Commander (Videovideo Gamegame)|Wing Commander]] (Kilrathi, post-war)
* [[The Magic Versus Technology War]]
** ''[[American Gods (Literature)|American Gods]]''
** ''[[The Longest Journey]]''
** ''[[Princess Mononoke]]''
** ''[[Thundercats 2011 (Western Animation)|ThunderCats (2011)]]''
** ''[[Warhammer 4000040,000]]'' (Anyone else vs. Necrons or Tau)
** ''[[Wizards]]''
** ''[[WolfsWolf's Rain]]''
* [[Robot War]]
** ''[[Battlestar Galactica (Franchise)|Battlestar Galactica]]'' (Both versions)
** ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]''
** ''[[Mass Effect]]''
** ''[[The Matrix]]''
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** ''[[Terminator]]''
** ''[[Transformers]]'' (Not a war with robots, but a war ''between'' robots, although humans sometimes get involved)
** ''[[Warhammer 4000040,000]]'' (Iron Men and the Necrons)
* [[World War III]]
** ''[[Alas, Babylon (Literature)|Alas, Babylon]]''
** ''Amerika''
** ''[[Damnation Alley]]''
** ''[[The Day After]]''
** ''[[End WarEndWar]]''
** ''[[Modern Warfare]] 2''
** ''Red Dawn''
** ''[[Red Storm Rising]]''
** ''[[Star Trek (Franchise)|Star Trek]]'' (backstory)
** ''[[Team Yankee]]''
** ''[[The Third World War (Literature)|The Third World War]]: August 1985''
** ''[[Threads]]''
** ''[[World in Conflict]]''
* Various others
** ''[[Babylon Five|Babylon 5]]'' gives us the Earth-Minbari War, which finished ten years before the series started, is what people usually refer to when they say "during the war...". There's also the Dilgar War, referred to in one episode but very important to the series' backstory (as it proved the Earth Alliance's status as a major galactic power). The series itself, however, is set during no less than ''six'' concurrent, interrelated wars:
*** The Shadow War
*** The Earth Alliance Civil War
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*** The Drakh War
*** The Telepath War
** ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam (Anime)|Mobile Suit Gundam]]''
*** '''The''' war is typically The One Year War, during which a [[Mobile Suit Gundam 0080: War in Thethe Pocket (Anime)|huge number]] [[Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team|of side]] [[Gundam IGLOO|stories are set]].
*** [[Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam (Anime)|The Gryps Conflict]]
*** [[Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ (Anime)|The First Neo-Zeon War]]
*** [[Chars Counterattack|The Second Neo-Zeon War]]
*** [[Mobile Suit Victory Gundam (Anime)|The Zanscare Insurrection]]
** [[Fullmetal Alchemist (manga)|Fullmetal Alchemist]]
*** In Ishval...
 
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Latest revision as of 12:09, 8 November 2023

British Soldier: Taste my sword, French person!
French Soldier: No! Wait! We are allies! This is World War I!
British Soldier: I'm terribly sorry! I thought it was the Hundred Years War! Does this mean I can kill Italians?
French Soldier: (consulting manual) No, I'm afraid not. Not until World War II.

—Dave Barry, "A Rash Proposal"

The fun part? You get to pick your war. Either of the World Wars, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War I, Gulf War II, ... the list is pretty long. The Cold War and the Drug War are out of bounds, though.

The further back in time you go, say from the American Civil War on back to The Trojan War, the more expensive your uniform wardrobe will get. This also applies to going forward in time to the Bug War, Robot War, Forever War, or Clone War. Military surplus is not available from these wars.

While we're on the subject, please note that you may rely on the audience already knowing that War Is Hell. Hopefully, you will have something additional to say.

Of note in this topic is Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C., notable for being made and presumably taking place during the Vietnam War. No mention of that conflict or country is ever made, and the Marines in Gomer's unit just ride out a dark chapter in US military history on the home front, seemingly unaware that anything war-like is happening, as they blunder through misadventure after misadventure. Of a longer scale to this is Beetle Bailey, whose title character joined the Army during the Korean War, and has blundered through over 50 years of US conflict.

The roles of the air forces and navies were rarely covered, owing to the fact that TV budgets don't cover Spitfire hire. However, during the 40's hundreds of Hollywood Movies were made about the then-ongoing Second World War. The ready availability of props and mock-ups, as well as real Stock Footage, made shows about pilots and sailors possible then. In several series, like Black Sheep Squadron and McHale's Navy, most of the action focused on antics carried out on base, to cut down on the necessary combat footage.

Note: the correct pronunciation is "JOO-rin-na WAW-ah".

Contrast War Was Beginning.

Examples of During the War include:


Real Life Wars

Fictional Types of War

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