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'''French Soldier:''' No! Wait! We are allies! This is World War I!
'''French Soldier:''' No! Wait! We are allies! This is World War I!
'''British Soldier:''' I'm terribly sorry! I thought it was the Hundred Years War! Does this mean I can kill Italians?
'''British Soldier:''' I'm terribly sorry! I thought it was the Hundred Years War! Does this mean I can kill Italians?
'''French Soldier:''' (consulting manual) No, I'm afraid not. Not until World War II.|'''[[Dave Barry]]''', "A Rash Proposal"}}
'''French Soldier:''' (consulting manual) No, I'm afraid not. Not until World War II.
|'''[[Dave Barry]]''', "A Rash Proposal"}}


The fun part? You get to pick your war. Either of the World Wars, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War I, Gulf War II, ... [[Military and Warfare Tropes|the list is pretty long]]. The [[Cold War]] and the Drug War are out of bounds, though.
The fun part? You get to pick your war. Either of the World Wars, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War I, Gulf War II, ... [[Military and Warfare Tropes|the list is pretty long]]. The [[Cold War]] and the Drug War are out of bounds, though.
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While we're on the subject, please note that you may rely on the audience already knowing that [[War Is Hell]]. Hopefully, you will have something additional to say.
While we're on the subject, please note that you may rely on the audience already knowing that [[War Is Hell]]. Hopefully, you will have something additional to say.


Of note in this topic is ''[[Gomer Pyle USMC]]'', notable for being made and presumably taking place during the Vietnam War. No mention of that conflict or country is ever made, and the Marines in Gomer's unit just ride out a dark chapter in US military history on the home front, seemingly unaware that anything war-like is happening, as they blunder through misadventure after misadventure. Of a longer scale to this is ''[[Beetle Bailey]]'', whose title character joined the Army during the Korean War, and has blundered through over 50 years of US conflict.
Of note in this topic is ''[[Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C.]]'', notable for being made and presumably taking place during the Vietnam War. No mention of that conflict or country is ever made, and the Marines in Gomer's unit just ride out a dark chapter in US military history on the home front, seemingly unaware that anything war-like is happening, as they blunder through misadventure after misadventure. Of a longer scale to this is ''[[Beetle Bailey]]'', whose title character joined the Army during the Korean War, and has blundered through over 50 years of US conflict.


The roles of the air forces and navies were rarely covered, owing to the fact that TV budgets don't cover Spitfire hire. However, during the 40's hundreds of Hollywood [[Movies]] were made about the then-ongoing Second World War. The ready availability of props and mock-ups, as well as real [[Stock Footage]], made shows about pilots and sailors possible then. In several series, like ''[[Black Sheep Squadron]]'' and ''[[McHales Navy|McHale's Navy]]'', most of the action focused on antics carried out on base, to cut down on the necessary combat footage.
The roles of the air forces and navies were rarely covered, owing to the fact that TV budgets don't cover Spitfire hire. However, during the 40's hundreds of Hollywood [[Movies]] were made about the then-ongoing Second World War. The ready availability of props and mock-ups, as well as real [[Stock Footage]], made shows about pilots and sailors possible then. In several series, like ''[[Black Sheep Squadron]]'' and ''[[McHales Navy|McHale's Navy]]'', most of the action focused on antics carried out on base, to cut down on the necessary combat footage.


Note: the [[Only Fools and Horses|correct pronunciation]] is "[[British Accents|JOO-rin-na WAW-ah]]".
Note: the [[Only Fools and Horses|correct pronunciation]] is "[[British Accents|JOO-rin-na WAW-ah]]".


Contrast [[War Was Beginning]].
Contrast [[War Was Beginning]].
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* French Revolution
* French Revolution
** ''[[Doctor Who]]''
** ''[[Doctor Who]]''
* [[World War One|World War I]]
* [[World War I]]
** ''[[ANZA Cs]]''
** ''[[ANZACs]]''
** ''[[A Very Long Engagement]]'' - Features a wide panorama of warfare of the age (though all taking place on the Somme) and the post-war period.
** ''[[A Very Long Engagement]]'' - Features a wide panorama of warfare of the age (though all taking place on the Somme) and the post-war period.
** ''[[Blackadder]] Goes Forth'' - Pushed the 'war is hell' angle for laughs and succeeded, until the last episode where they pushed the 'war is hell'' angle for tragedy. [[Tear Jerker|And succeeded]]
** ''[[Blackadder]] Goes Forth'' - Pushed the 'war is hell' angle for laughs and succeeded, until the last episode where they pushed the 'war is hell'' angle for tragedy. [[Tear Jerker|And succeeded]]
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** ''[[Jackboots on Whitehall]]''
** ''[[Jackboots on Whitehall]]''
** ''Jeux interdits'' (English title: ''Forbidden Games'')
** ''Jeux interdits'' (English title: ''Forbidden Games'')
** ''[[Kelly's Heroes]]'' - ''The Italian Job'' {{smallcaps|[[During the War]]!}}
** ''[[Kelly's Heroes]]'' - ''The Italian Job'' {{smallcaps|During the War!}}
** ''[[Letters From Iwo Jima]]''
** ''[[Letters From Iwo Jima]]''
** ''[[The Longest Day]]'' - D-Day
** ''[[The Longest Day]]'' - D-Day
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** ''[[Tora! Tora! Tora!]]'' - Named for the code words used by the Japanese to signal that the Pearl Harbor attack had been successful.
** ''[[Tora! Tora! Tora!]]'' - Named for the code words used by the Japanese to signal that the Pearl Harbor attack had been successful.
** ''[[Torchwood]]''
** ''[[Torchwood]]''
** ''[[Valkyria Chronicles]]'', though some elements also let it fit as [[World War One]].
** ''[[Valkyria Chronicles]]'', though some elements also let it fit as [[World War I]].
** ''[[Valkyrie]]''
** ''[[Valkyrie (film)|Valkyrie]]''
** Various [[Wartime Cartoon|Wartime Cartoons]]
** Various [[Wartime Cartoon]]s
** ''[[Wolfenstein 3D]]''
** ''[[Wolfenstein 3D]]''
* First Indochina War
* First Indochina War
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* [[Korean War]]
* [[Korean War]]
** ''The Manchurian Candidate'' (original version).
** ''The Manchurian Candidate'' (original version).
** ''[[MASH]]'' (which, oddly enough, lasted much longer than the active hostilities during the Korean War did!)
** ''[[M*A*S*H (television)|M*A*S*H]]'' (which, oddly enough, lasted much longer than the active hostilities during the Korean War did!)
** ''Pork Chop Hill''
** ''Pork Chop Hill''
* Algerian War of Independence
* Algerian War of Independence
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** ''Forrest Gump''
** ''Forrest Gump''
** ''Full Metal Jacket''
** ''Full Metal Jacket''
** ''[[Gomer Pyle USMC]]''
** ''[[Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C.]]''
** ''[[The Green Berets]]''
** ''[[The Green Berets]]''
** ''Missing in Action''
** ''Missing in Action''
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** ''Courage Under Fire''
** ''Courage Under Fire''
** ''[[Jarhead]]''
** ''[[Jarhead]]''
** ''[[The Manchurian Candidate]]'' (remake)
** ''[[The Manchurian Candidate (novel)|The Manchurian Candidate]]'' (remake)
** ''[[Three Kings]]''
** ''[[Three Kings]]''
* [[The War on Terror|War in Afghanistan (2001)]]
* [[The War on Terror|War in Afghanistan (2001)]]
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** ''Outer Limits'' (new version, several episodes)
** ''Outer Limits'' (new version, several episodes)
** ''[[Space: Above and Beyond]]''
** ''[[Space: Above and Beyond]]''
** ''[[Starcraft]]''
** ''[[StarCraft]]''
** ''[[Starship Troopers (novel)|Starship Troopers]]''
** ''[[Starship Troopers (novel)|Starship Troopers]]''
** ''[[Warhammer 40000]]'' (Tyranids)
** ''[[Warhammer 40,000]]'' (Tyranids)
** ''[[Wing Commander (video game)|Wing Commander]] Prophecy''
** ''[[Wing Commander (video game)|Wing Commander]] Prophecy''
* [[Demonic Invaders]]
* [[Demonic Invaders]]
** ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]''
** ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]''
** ''[[Supernatural (TV series)|Supernatural]]''
** ''[[Supernatural (TV series)|Supernatural]]''
** ''[[Warhammer 40000]]'' (Chaos)
** ''[[Warhammer 40,000]]'' (Chaos)
* Interstellar Civil War
* Interstellar Civil War
** ''[[Firefly]]''
** ''[[Firefly (TV series)|Firefly]]''
** ''[[Star Wars]]''
** ''[[Star Wars]]''
** ''[[Transformers]]''
** ''[[Transformers]]''
** ''[[Warhammer 40000]]'' (Chaos again)
** ''[[Warhammer 40,000]]'' (Chaos again)
** [[Wing Commander (video game)|Wing Commander]] (Kilrathi, post-war)
** [[Wing Commander (video game)|Wing Commander]] (Kilrathi, post-war)
* [[The Magic Versus Technology War]]
* [[The Magic Versus Technology War]]
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** ''[[Princess Mononoke]]''
** ''[[Princess Mononoke]]''
** ''[[Thundercats 2011|ThunderCats (2011)]]''
** ''[[Thundercats 2011|ThunderCats (2011)]]''
** ''[[Warhammer 40000]]'' (Anyone else vs. Necrons or Tau)
** ''[[Warhammer 40,000]]'' (Anyone else vs. Necrons or Tau)
** ''[[Wizards]]''
** ''[[Wizards]]''
** ''[[Wolf's Rain]]''
** ''[[Wolf's Rain]]''
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** ''[[Terminator]]''
** ''[[Terminator]]''
** ''[[Transformers]]'' (Not a war with robots, but a war ''between'' robots, although humans sometimes get involved)
** ''[[Transformers]]'' (Not a war with robots, but a war ''between'' robots, although humans sometimes get involved)
** ''[[Warhammer 40000]]'' (Iron Men and the Necrons)
** ''[[Warhammer 40,000]]'' (Iron Men and the Necrons)
* [[World War III]]
* [[World War III]]
** ''[[Alas, Babylon]]''
** ''[[Alas, Babylon]]''
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** ''[[Damnation Alley]]''
** ''[[Damnation Alley]]''
** ''[[The Day After]]''
** ''[[The Day After]]''
** ''[[End War]]''
** ''[[EndWar]]''
** ''[[Modern Warfare]] 2''
** ''[[Modern Warfare]] 2''
** ''Red Dawn''
** ''Red Dawn''
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*** The Telepath War
*** The Telepath War
** ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam]]''
** ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam]]''
*** '''The''' war is typically The One Year War, during which a [[Mobile Suit Gundam 0080 War in The Pocket|huge number]] [[Mobile Suit Gundam The 08th MS Team|of side]] [[Gundam IGLOO|stories are set]].
*** '''The''' war is typically The One Year War, during which a [[Mobile Suit Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket|huge number]] [[Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team|of side]] [[Gundam IGLOO|stories are set]].
*** [[Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam|The Gryps Conflict]]
*** [[Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam|The Gryps Conflict]]
*** [[Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ|The First Neo-Zeon War]]
*** [[Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ|The First Neo-Zeon War]]
*** [[Chars Counterattack|The Second Neo-Zeon War]]
*** [[Chars Counterattack|The Second Neo-Zeon War]]
*** [[Mobile Suit Victory Gundam|The Zanscare Insurrection]]
*** [[Mobile Suit Victory Gundam|The Zanscare Insurrection]]
** [[Fullmetal Alchemist]]
** [[Fullmetal Alchemist (manga)|Fullmetal Alchemist]]
*** In Ishval...
*** In Ishval...



Latest revision as of 12:09, 8 November 2023

British Soldier: Taste my sword, French person!
French Soldier: No! Wait! We are allies! This is World War I!
British Soldier: I'm terribly sorry! I thought it was the Hundred Years War! Does this mean I can kill Italians?
French Soldier: (consulting manual) No, I'm afraid not. Not until World War II.

Dave Barry, "A Rash Proposal"

The fun part? You get to pick your war. Either of the World Wars, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War I, Gulf War II, ... the list is pretty long. The Cold War and the Drug War are out of bounds, though.

The further back in time you go, say from the American Civil War on back to The Trojan War, the more expensive your uniform wardrobe will get. This also applies to going forward in time to the Bug War, Robot War, Forever War, or Clone War. Military surplus is not available from these wars.

While we're on the subject, please note that you may rely on the audience already knowing that War Is Hell. Hopefully, you will have something additional to say.

Of note in this topic is Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C., notable for being made and presumably taking place during the Vietnam War. No mention of that conflict or country is ever made, and the Marines in Gomer's unit just ride out a dark chapter in US military history on the home front, seemingly unaware that anything war-like is happening, as they blunder through misadventure after misadventure. Of a longer scale to this is Beetle Bailey, whose title character joined the Army during the Korean War, and has blundered through over 50 years of US conflict.

The roles of the air forces and navies were rarely covered, owing to the fact that TV budgets don't cover Spitfire hire. However, during the 40's hundreds of Hollywood Movies were made about the then-ongoing Second World War. The ready availability of props and mock-ups, as well as real Stock Footage, made shows about pilots and sailors possible then. In several series, like Black Sheep Squadron and McHale's Navy, most of the action focused on antics carried out on base, to cut down on the necessary combat footage.

Note: the correct pronunciation is "JOO-rin-na WAW-ah".

Contrast War Was Beginning.

Examples of During the War include:


Real Life Wars

Fictional Types of War