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* [[Depraved Bisexual]]: Iktomi. Oddly, his most depraved behavior is with women.
* [[Depraved Bisexual]]: Iktomi. Oddly, his most depraved behavior is with women.
* [[Did Godzilla Just Punch Out Cthulhu]]: Wakinyan versus Unktehi. Bonus points because the Unktehi and Uncegila have a water motif.
* [[Did Godzilla Just Punch Out Cthulhu]]: Wakinyan versus Unktehi. Bonus points because the Unktehi and Uncegila have a water motif.
* [[Did We Just Have Tea With Cthulhu]]: Winkte (with the double woman) and heyoka (with the Wakinyan) do this in their visions.
* [[Did We Just Have Tea With Cthulhu?]]: Winkte (with the double woman) and heyoka (with the Wakinyan) do this in their visions.
* [[Did You Just Flip Off Cthulhu]]: Since plains warriors have a habit of [[Calling Your Attacks|announcing their deeds]], they tend to do this when fighting monsters too.
* [[Did You Just Flip Off Cthulhu?]]: Since plains warriors have a habit of [[Calling Your Attacks|announcing their deeds]], they tend to do this when fighting monsters too.
* [[Did You Just Punch Out Cthulhu]]: While the [[Did Godzilla Just Punch Out Cthulhu|Wakinyan take out the Unktehi]], humans take out Uncegila.
* [[Did You Just Punch Out Cthulhu?]]: While the [[Did Godzilla Just Punch Out Cthulhu|Wakinyan take out the Unktehi]], humans take out Uncegila.
* [[Did You Just Romance Cthulhu]]: Some of the Lakota stories get into this range of mortals having relationships with gods. The made-for-TV movie ''Dreamkeeper'''s version of the story of Uncegila plays it straight: {{spoiler|Uncegila [[Humanoid Abomination|is implied to be the young woman who is also the old woman]]}}.
* [[Did You Just Romance Cthulhu?]]: Some of the Lakota stories get into this range of mortals having relationships with gods. The made-for-TV movie ''Dreamkeeper'''s version of the story of Uncegila plays it straight: {{spoiler|Uncegila [[Humanoid Abomination|is implied to be the young woman who is also the old woman]]}}.
* [[Do Not Taunt Cthulhu]]: Subverted: Iktomi actually manages to trick Iya, the eater of everything, into eating him, and then cuts him open and frees everyone. Probably a trope in its own right.
* [[Do Not Taunt Cthulhu]]: Subverted: Iktomi actually manages to trick Iya, the eater of everything, into eating him, and then cuts him open and frees everyone. Probably a trope in its own right.
* [[Overly Long Gag|Did We Just List All The Tropes About Cthulhu?]]
* [[Overly Long Gag|Did We Just List All The Tropes About Cthulhu?]]
* [[Dropped a Bridget On Him]]: In one Apache story, Coyote demands a girl, and gets a boy dressed like a girl instead.
* [[Dropped a Bridget On Him]]: In one Apache story, Coyote demands a girl, and gets a boy dressed like a girl instead.
* [[Eldritch Abomination]]: Uncegila. Also, the wakinyan, who have no eyes but their eyes shoot lightning; no legs but sharp talons; and no beak but their call is thunder. Seeing a wakinyan is enough to make one always do things backward.
* [[Eldritch Abomination]]: Uncegila. Also, the wakinyan, who have no eyes but their eyes shoot lightning; no legs but sharp talons; and no beak but their call is thunder. Seeing a wakinyan is enough to make one always do things backward.
* [[Elemental Rock Paper Scissors]]: Unktehi (water) vs. Wakinyan (lightning). Let's see which one wins.
* [[Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors]]: Unktehi (water) vs. Wakinyan (lightning). Let's see which one wins.
* [[Evil Is Deathly Cold]]: Uncegila. To a much lesser extent, Waziyata, the north wind.
* [[Evil Is Deathly Cold]]: Uncegila. To a much lesser extent, Waziyata, the north wind.
* [[Evil Twin]]: The Yuma creation myth features one.
* [[Evil Twin]]: The Yuma creation myth features one.
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* [[Fetch Quest]]: In an [[Always Male]] example: Kill a bunch of animals. Your female relatives use their skins to make clothing to give away as a bride price or at a party.
* [[Fetch Quest]]: In an [[Always Male]] example: Kill a bunch of animals. Your female relatives use their skins to make clothing to give away as a bride price or at a party.
** [[Twenty Bear Asses]] is apparently [[Older Than They Think]].
** [[Twenty Bear Asses]] is apparently [[Older Than They Think]].
* [[Fire Ice Lightning]]: Lakota ideas about the four directions associate the west with lightning, north with ice, east with [[Non Elemental|nothing]], and south with fire.
* [[Fire, Ice, Lightning]]: Lakota ideas about the four directions associate the west with lightning, north with ice, east with [[Non-Elemental|nothing]], and south with fire.
* [[Four Is Death]]: Taken literally by the Sioux, who divide life into childhood, adulthood, senescence, and the afterlife.
* [[Four Is Death]]: Taken literally by the Sioux, who divide life into childhood, adulthood, senescence, and the afterlife.
* [[Full Frontal Assault]]: Atanarjuat, running from Oki.
* [[Full Frontal Assault]]: Atanarjuat, running from Oki.
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* [[The Great Flood]]
* [[The Great Flood]]
* [[Trickster Archetype]]: Coyote, Raven, Iktomi, Rabbit
* [[Trickster Archetype]]: Coyote, Raven, Iktomi, Rabbit
** Kokopelli's [[Popcultural Osmosis|family-friendly]] picture is the trope image. His [[Memetic Mutation|wanted poster]] reads: Charges: despoiling maidens, seducing wives, [[Arson Murder and Jaywalking|and gambling]]. Sometimes travels with horny woman, who calls herself Kokopelli-mana. May have been involved in the bankruptcy of Pueblo Bonito in the 13th century. He has a very big... flute which is always prominently depicted in traditional artwork.
** Kokopelli's [[Popcultural Osmosis|family-friendly]] picture is the trope image. His [[Memetic Mutation|wanted poster]] reads: Charges: despoiling maidens, seducing wives, [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|and gambling]]. Sometimes travels with horny woman, who calls herself Kokopelli-mana. May have been involved in the bankruptcy of Pueblo Bonito in the 13th century. He has a very big... flute which is always prominently depicted in traditional artwork.
* [[Turtle Island]]: The Iroquois are the [[Trope Namer]].
* [[Turtle Island]]: The Iroquois are the [[Trope Namer]].
* [[Twincest]]: In one Eskimo story, the moon rapes his sister, the sun. Also [[Rape As Drama]].
* [[Twincest]]: In one Eskimo story, the moon rapes his sister, the sun. Also [[Rape As Drama]].
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* [[Biggus Dickus]]
* [[Biggus Dickus]]
* [[Canon Dis Continuity]]: The "matriarchal" Sioux when complete matriarchy doesn't exist.
* [[Canon Dis Continuity]]: The "matriarchal" Sioux when complete matriarchy doesn't exist.
* [[Everythings Worse With Bears]]: The [[Origin Story]] of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devils_Tower_National_Monument Devil's Tower] in Wyoming involves one or more gigantic bears trying to kill frightened children and the Creator raising the tower up under the kids to save them.
* [[Everything's Worse With Bears]]: The [[Origin Story]] of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devils_Tower_National_Monument Devil's Tower] in Wyoming involves one or more gigantic bears trying to kill frightened children and the Creator raising the tower up under the kids to save them.
* [[Fan Service]]: A lot of it, from [[Walking Shirtless Scene]] to [[Zettai Ryouiki]]--all [[Always Male|male]].
* [[Fan Service]]: A lot of it, from [[Walking Shirtless Scene]] to [[Zettai Ryouiki]]--all [[Always Male|male]].
* [[Gag Penis]]: Coyote attempts to molest a woman by extending his phallus all the way through a gopher warren and up her skirt.
* [[Gag Penis]]: Coyote attempts to molest a woman by extending his phallus all the way through a gopher warren and up her skirt.
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* [[Popcultural Osmosis]]: Kokopelli figurines; Eagle feathers; you name it.
* [[Popcultural Osmosis]]: Kokopelli figurines; Eagle feathers; you name it.
* [[Proud Warrior Race]]: Plains mythology has a ''lot'' of war.
* [[Proud Warrior Race]]: Plains mythology has a ''lot'' of war.
* [[Rule Thirty Four]]: There actually is a book called ''Sex Lives of American Indians''. Everything in it's bullshit, though. For the homosexuals and [[Yaoi Fangirl|Yaoi Fangirls]], there's ''Spirit and the Flesh'', where all you need to know is that there are sacred native transvestites who can't have sex with other transvestites but otherwise [[Everyone Is Bi]]. Everything else in it seems to invoke [[Rule Thirty Four]], though. Finally, for the heterosexual females, you can just go to a powwow and watch the ladies grab a dancer's braids or lift up his loincloth.
* [[Rule 34]]: There actually is a book called ''Sex Lives of American Indians''. Everything in it's bullshit, though. For the homosexuals and [[Yaoi Fangirl|Yaoi Fangirls]], there's ''Spirit and the Flesh'', where all you need to know is that there are sacred native transvestites who can't have sex with other transvestites but otherwise [[Everyone Is Bi]]. Everything else in it seems to invoke [[Rule 34]], though. Finally, for the heterosexual females, you can just go to a powwow and watch the ladies grab a dancer's braids or lift up his loincloth.
* [[Shirtless Scene]]: Depending on culture area, this can range from wearing a shirt all the time except under the blanket to [[Shirtless Scene]] to [[Walking Shirtless Scene]] to total nudity.
* [[Shirtless Scene]]: Depending on culture area, this can range from wearing a shirt all the time except under the blanket to [[Shirtless Scene]] to [[Walking Shirtless Scene]] to total nudity.
* [[Shotacon]]: A Pawnee marriage custom: At puberty, a boy marries his mother's brother's wife. His co-husband teaches him how to be a man, while his wife teaches him about sex.
* [[Shotacon]]: A Pawnee marriage custom: At puberty, a boy marries his mother's brother's wife. His co-husband teaches him how to be a man, while his wife teaches him about sex.
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* [[Unfortunate Implications]]: Many tribes call themselves the People and refer to others as pests.
* [[Unfortunate Implications]]: Many tribes call themselves the People and refer to others as pests.
* [[Walking Shirtless Scene]]: [[Real Life]] example: Crazy Horse.
* [[Walking Shirtless Scene]]: [[Real Life]] example: Crazy Horse.
* [[Who Wants to Live Forever]]: The initial view many tribes had of Christianity.
* [[Who Wants to Live Forever?]]: The initial view many tribes had of Christianity.
* [[Zettai Ryouiki]]: As with all ''accurate'' native clothing, fanservice is almost exclusively male: A loincloth and leggings leave a little area on the legs.
* [[Zettai Ryouiki]]: As with all ''accurate'' native clothing, fanservice is almost exclusively male: A loincloth and leggings leave a little area on the legs.


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General Information on various Native American mythologies and Oral Tradition. Obviously, this page covers an enormous variety of different cultures, but they're grouped together here for convenience.

See also these sub-pages for specific cultures:

See Useful Notes on Pre-Columbian Civilizations.

For the Hollywood History version, see Magical Native American and Mayincatec.

Tropes commonly associated with Native mythologies include:

  • Animorphism: Iktomi is the most obvious, appearing in the form of a spider.
  • Badass Native: At least one per mythology.
  • Big Badass Bird of Prey: Thunder is anthropomorphized into a bird.
  • Big Badass Wolf: Subverted; the wolf is usually portrayed more positively than in Western mythology. See for example Coyote.
  • Body Horror: What happened to Stone Boy's uncles. Also the Sun Dance seemed like this to many non-Indians. Ptesanwin also has an ah, "interesting" punishment for rapists.
  • Cain and Abel: Waziyata and Okaga in Lakota myth. At least when Wohpe is involved. This happens once a year. You call it "winter".
  • Continuity Snarl: No tribe's mythology has an established canon.
  • Creation Myth: Done to hilarious extremes in that many cultures have multiple creation myths.
  • Deal With the Devil: Uncegila, Uncegila, Uncegila. For those not familiar, Uncegila is a sea monster whose look can kill. Initially, the victim is blinded. A day later, he goes mad. Two days later, he's foaming at the mouth. A day after that, he dies, and his whole family dies. Two orphan brothers, one of whom was blind, killed Uncegila using special arrows that never missed. After that, they were instructed to not listen to it for its first three requests and then do whatever it said from then on. In doing so, they would get whatever they asked. Every day, it came up with more complicated ceremonies, though, and life became boring, getting whatever they wanted, so they stopped listening to it, and it exploded.
  • Depraved Bisexual: Iktomi. Oddly, his most depraved behavior is with women.
  • Did Godzilla Just Punch Out Cthulhu: Wakinyan versus Unktehi. Bonus points because the Unktehi and Uncegila have a water motif.
  • Did We Just Have Tea With Cthulhu?: Winkte (with the double woman) and heyoka (with the Wakinyan) do this in their visions.
  • Did You Just Flip Off Cthulhu?: Since plains warriors have a habit of announcing their deeds, they tend to do this when fighting monsters too.
  • Did You Just Punch Out Cthulhu?: While the Wakinyan take out the Unktehi, humans take out Uncegila.
  • Did You Just Romance Cthulhu?: Some of the Lakota stories get into this range of mortals having relationships with gods. The made-for-TV movie Dreamkeeper's version of the story of Uncegila plays it straight: Uncegila is implied to be the young woman who is also the old woman.
  • Do Not Taunt Cthulhu: Subverted: Iktomi actually manages to trick Iya, the eater of everything, into eating him, and then cuts him open and frees everyone. Probably a trope in its own right.
  • Did We Just List All The Tropes About Cthulhu?
  • Dropped a Bridget On Him: In one Apache story, Coyote demands a girl, and gets a boy dressed like a girl instead.
  • Eldritch Abomination: Uncegila. Also, the wakinyan, who have no eyes but their eyes shoot lightning; no legs but sharp talons; and no beak but their call is thunder. Seeing a wakinyan is enough to make one always do things backward.
  • Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors: Unktehi (water) vs. Wakinyan (lightning). Let's see which one wins.
  • Evil Is Deathly Cold: Uncegila. To a much lesser extent, Waziyata, the north wind.
  • Evil Twin: The Yuma creation myth features one.
  • Eye Scream: Uncegila. Is there any trope she doesn't qualify under?
  • Fetch Quest: In an Always Male example: Kill a bunch of animals. Your female relatives use their skins to make clothing to give away as a bride price or at a party.
  • Fire, Ice, Lightning: Lakota ideas about the four directions associate the west with lightning, north with ice, east with nothing, and south with fire.
  • Four Is Death: Taken literally by the Sioux, who divide life into childhood, adulthood, senescence, and the afterlife.
  • Full Frontal Assault: Atanarjuat, running from Oki.
  • Gag Penis: Coyote detaches his.
    • In some versions, he borrows someone else's.
  • Genius Loci: Constantly. Many areas are sacred or taboo because of such.
  • Go Mad From the Revelation: In more modern stories, people with the power to see the future tend to see white contact and do this.
  • Hijacked By Jesus: To use a Lakota example, Wakinyan (thunder) became angels, Wohpe became the Virgin Mary, and the Pipe became Christ. Many Indians follow a mixture of tradition, Christianity, the peyote ceremony (largely Christian-based), and the Ghost Dance (which has Mormon influences).
  • Ho Yay: Look up 'winkte'. Also other examples.
    • Also, the plains custom of sharing wives. And of friends sleeping under the same blanket. And on and on.
  • Human Mom Nonhuman Dad: Played straight and inverted/subverted/averted.
  • I Have Many Names: Just using Lakota examples, Wohpe or Ptsanwin? Skan or Taku Skanskan?
  • Immortality Immorality: Pick a human who becomes immortal. Any.
  • Important Haircut: In many cultures, hair is where memory is stored.
  • Loin Cloth: Traditional male attire in climates that allow it.
  • Magic Loincloth: According to the Ghost Dance, when the world ends, all the Indians will grow really tall, preparing for the flood. After the Apocalypse, the survivors will shrink down to normal size, and, free of shame, remove their clothes.
  • Magical Queer: Winkte. Subverted because they can't have sex with each other, just with heterosexuals, who, oddly enough, can have sex with the same gender.
  • Mons: In one Lakota story, Ksa (the Lakota god of wisdom) uses a porcupine as one while Gnas (a trickster) uses a skunk. The skunk's smell is super effective! against the porcupine. Ksa loses and becomes Iktomi.
  • No Swastikas: The Hopi and Navajo don't use the swastika anymore.
  • Numerological Motif: The number four shows up a lot.
  • Odd Job Gods: And many of them, especially in Pueblo cultures
  • Our Monsters Are Weird: Iktomi is sometimes a man, sometimes a spider. Uncegila is a giant water creature who, by revealing its seventh spot, guarantees the death of not only the viewer, but his whole family.
  • Parental Incest: In Lakota mythology, Unk (contention) and Iya (the all consuming-one). They make many monsters together.
  • Public Domain Artifact: Many, but primarily the sacred buffalo calf pipe, seven arrows, ghost shirts, dream catchers, and medicine wheels. Expect a lot of New Age appropriation of these. Real natives are not pleased.
  • Ravens and Crows
    • Ravens are a Trickster Archetype. These trickster types tend to be Depraved Bisexuals. Ergo, Crow Yay.
    • Raven-as-individual is sometimes associated as a sort of region-specific equivalent to Coyote in the Pacific Northwest. Make up your own mind what this actually says about said region.
  • Reptiles Are Abhorrent: Inverted by the Hopi.
  • Sasquatch: Known as Ts'emekwes, Sásq’ets and various other names.
  • Sea Monster: Unktehi, who is described as a snake with legs that can puff himself up to cause the rivers to overflow.
  • Single Gender Race: The Piegan provide one for each gender.
  • Sixth Ranger Traitor: A common trope on the plains, due to the emphasis on male solidarity. An aside, in a Five Token Band, you can expect that if there is an Indian, he'll be the Sixth Ranger or this.
  • Sixth Ranger: Up, down, and the center are often considered ancillary directions in addition to the usual four. In Lakota tradition, for instance, the four directions are the sons of the wind god. His wife cheated on him with the sun and bore him a son. This son, the whirlwind and god of love, was raised by the wind god's youngest son, the south wind, and as punishment, the boy's parents cannot see him.
  • The End of the World As We Know It: Ghost Dance
  • The Force: Wakan as life energy which one can manipulate. Power to manipulate it is In the Blood.
  • The Great Flood
  • Trickster Archetype: Coyote, Raven, Iktomi, Rabbit
    • Kokopelli's family-friendly picture is the trope image. His wanted poster reads: Charges: despoiling maidens, seducing wives, and gambling. Sometimes travels with horny woman, who calls herself Kokopelli-mana. May have been involved in the bankruptcy of Pueblo Bonito in the 13th century. He has a very big... flute which is always prominently depicted in traditional artwork.
  • Turtle Island: The Iroquois are the Trope Namer.
  • Twincest: In one Eskimo story, the moon rapes his sister, the sun. Also Rape As Drama.
  • Vagina Dentata: Done literally in one Ponca myth.
  • Values Dissonance: Smoking as sacred? Today you'd get the American Cancer Society on your ass for even suggesting that.
  • Villainous Incest: And how!
  • Vision Quest: Two Words Obvious Trope, but not done in the Hollywood way.
  • Wendigo: The Wendigo. May be an Eldritch Abomination.
  • Word of Dante: Between New Agers and anthropologists, there are a lot of Dantes out there.



Other Tropes which may be found in various stories include: