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After the series, Percy Jackson wakes up to find that it was All Just a Dream...

...only to find a dwarf on his doorstep. "Come with me, Percy Jackson," the dwarf says. "Odin would like to have a word with you."

The Oracle is Chaos

No, not that Chaos, nor that one, but the primordial Greek Deity that existed long before even Gaia and Uranus. The spirit of the oracle is all that is left of her, and she is playing a millenia-long Gambit Roulette to regain her power from the Gods.

  • I think you forgot two more Chaoses. Does it seem like Chaos gets used a lot for villainous characters, or am i just paranoid?
    • Did someone mention Chaos?
  • Doesn't the source mythology inherently Joss this?
    • Yes, I'm pretty sure that Apollo was supposed to be the source of the Oracle's powers.
      • It is sort of implied that the Oracle is Python, the dragon Apollo killed in order to create the Oracle. Still, the WMG is plausible as well.

There will be one grand crossover with all Cosmologies

With Riordan planning to write a series about Egyptian Mythology, there may be a final book that has the gods from many cosmologies getting together to fight...something big. Maybe Aliens.

The series is set After the End.

The United States is referred to as, not only the core of the civilized world, but also the entirety of the civilized world. Given that this is an Alternate Reality, it's possible that this is true In-Universe and not extreme Creator Provincialism.

At some point in the world's past, an apocalyptic event dropped the rest of the world into complete and utter chaos; the United States is the last holdout of civilization.

  • Possibly debunked by Apollo talking about going to japan to learn Haiku, which makes it sound that other areas besides the US are not part of the civilized world (Though, who knows what a god might consider recent.)
  • Also, Canada is said to be where Lastrigonian Giants are from - and the way it's said makes it seem like there's nothing else there.
  • Debunked by the fact that in the second series, with Egyptian gods, a half-blood is living in London.
  • Also debunked by the fact that at the end of the series the satyrs have been overwhelmed with leads on new half bloods from all over the world.
  • What? No, it's referred to as the heart of western civilization. At no point do they say there is no other civilization.
  • "An apocalyptic event dropped the rest of the world into complete and utter chaos". This series concerns Greek Mythology. So this universe is the distant future of God of War?

The new series will revolve around Percy and Annabeth's child.

Pretty self-explanatory.

  • Jossed; the first two chapters that were put up on the web indicate Percy and Annabeth are, iirc, about nineteen at the time of the new series.
    • This is wrong. It's stated in the book that the new series takes place a year after TLO, in October.

Percy and Annabeth will have a son and name him after Luke.

Again, self-explanatory.

  • Not if Rick Riordan wants to fend off all those accusations of being a Harry Potter knockoff...
  • The son will have his memory wiped and be sent back in time to host Kronos. They named their son after their son!
    • Now we've gone from stealing Harry Potter to stealing Doctor Who! Are you TRYING to piss off the major nerd fanbases?

The Half-Bloods' dyslexia only applies to the Latin and Cyrillic alphabets

To elaborate the stated reason for their dyslexia is because their brains are hard-wired to read Ancient Greek and both the Latin and Cyrillic alphabets are derived from the Ancient Greek one. The capital forms of Alpha, Beta, Epsilon, Zeta, Eta, Iota, Kappa, Mu, Nu, Omicron, Rho, Tau, Upsilon and Chi are the same as A, B, E, Z, H, I, K, N, M, O, P, T, Y and X respectively and the capital forms of Pi and Phi crop up in Cyrillic along with several of the ones that appear in Latin. Its this similarity that causes the dyslexia since their brains are mixing up what they see and what their brains expect. If they learnt a language that was written using a completely different writing system (hanzi/kanji/hanja, kana, hangul, Arabic, Thai, Ge'ez, Devengari and so forth) there wouldn't be any confusion caused by the hard wiring and they would be able to read it as well as any one else who learns it as a second language.

  • It seems more likely to This Troper that they would have even more difficulties with alternate writing systems, as if their brains are "hard-wired" to read Ancient Greek, they would be predisposed to think that a writing system should be an alphabet, as opposed to logographic, symbolic, syllabic, etc.
    • Originator of the original theory just trying to clarify a little. To use an analogy, its like an auto-spellchecker built in to the language centre of their brains. But when reading or writing almost any European language (apart from maybe Modern Greek) the auto-checker sees familiar characters used the wrong way and mixed with unfamiliar characters and so they get confused. Using a different writing system, be it another alphabet, logographic, phonographic or whatever means that the auto-correct function doesn't see anything familiar so it doesn't cause confusion by trying to 'correct' the mistakes and thus no dyslexia. It might even work for English (or French for any half-bloods from Quebec) by using an alternate font like Wingdings or a visual representation of braille that don't use standard letters.
  • On a similar note, Roman demigods don't have dyslexia because Latin is the base of most modern languages, including English.

Athena's day job is as Stella from CSI: NY

  • Stella has no known family except a mother who looks exactly like her, She has mixed Italian/Greek heritage but values the Greek more like a Greek goddess who was Roman for a while. They both live in New York. She seems to solve crimes for the mystery and logic rather than because it is her job such as when she didn't go on strike. And finally, they are both played by Melina Kankarades.
    • Stella has had sex, Athena is a maiden. Jossed. Hard.
      • It was a look-alike succubus!
      • If Athena is a maiden, what's up with Annabeth and all her half-siblings? double Jossed.
        • They are gifts from the mind. Don't recall in which book
        • It's from the fourth book. Athena mentions that she and all other children of Athena are quite literally brainchilds (brainchildren?) formed from her divine thoughts and "ingenuity of the mortal father".

In the movie all of the mythological creatures are mutates


The true forms of the Gods are Eldritch Abominations

  • The sheer impossibility of the shape they take is so mind-numbing, your body burns itself to ashes as a defense mechanism.
    • That's a pretty crappy "Defense" mechanism.
    • This is actually canon in the original Greek myths; it was how Hera killed Dionysus' mother, a mortal princess - she goaded said princess into asking to see Zeus' true, divine form, and got burnt to a crisp.
  • The sequel series reveals that their true form is pure energy. That'd explain it.

There will be a Crossover Crossover with The Kane Chronicles eventually.

The first book of The Kane Chronicles has Shout outs to the Percy Jackson series and the end of The Last Olympian said that Rick was writing a new half-blood series, and The Kane Chronicles is it.

One or more characters is a Time Lord

  • Kronos
    • Pshaw!

Rachel Elizabeth Dare is Cassandra of Troy reborn.

Artists frequently portray Cassandra with the wild red hair, and Rachel is something of a modern 'princess', and there's the whole 'prophecy' thing ... okay really I have no conclusive evidence in particular.

Jason from the Sequel Series is one of Luke's reincarnations.

Riordan prolly wanted to give Luke a chance. And random amnesia in the middle of the world?

  • Possibly Jossed due to Jason slowly regaining his memories.
  • Definitely Jossed due to Jason being Thalia's brother and having led the attack on the Titans stronghold while they marched on Olympus.

The series is set in the same universe as Hunter: The Reckoning.

The first line of the prophecy at the end of the book 7 half bloods shall answer the call the call stands for the call of the Messengers to hunt but because half bloods can already see through the mist or masquerade they consider the message a random hallucination and the second thing that happens has no effect on the half blood because they can already see through the mist or the masquerade

The new series will focus on legendary mortals like Odysseus.

Jason's not a demigod; he's a legendary mortal who came about his abilities naturally (without divine blood). He may be the reincarnation of Jason as a legendary hero but not a demigod. The new series will see the rebirth of Hector, Ajax, Orion, Atalanta and other mortals who rose above rank and file. Gods on all sides will try to influence and intimidate them (I could see Artemis especially curious about Orion) but in the end, they'll be free agents with relative autonomy.

  • Half true. There are reborn mortals, but only villains.
    • Who said only villains?
      • Well, it is stated that the dead are at least so far only coming back with the aid of a "patron",who turns out to be the Big Bad.she's not likely to help any good guys get out.(though that doesn't rule out her messing with the laws of death allowing out good guys too.)
      • I could be wrong, but wasn't Orion Poseidon's son?
  • The second book does feature at least one heroic character who was reborn (Hazel) and at least one other character who un-died almost immediately (Gwen) due to Thanatos being chained. And if the gods get desperate enough, Hades might be willing to allow some loopholes...

Prometheus will be the villain in the new series.

Do you really think that a couple of kids could Out Gambit the Titan who's embodies forethought least of all Percy "Leeroy Jenkins" Jackson? Prometheus always has a plan, from giving fire to man, to being chained to a rock, to telling Percy to give up knowing that that would urge him onwards to eliminate Kronos and pave the way for his own designs which are much, much more insidious and intricate than "Take over a kid's body, Attack Zeus head on, ????, Profit!". Nice Job Breaking It, Perce. Jason's going to be spending the next series fixing your mistakes.

  • Firstly, Elpis is Hope, Secondly, Kronos' plan was quite intricate, but Forethought is not "Seeing the future", it's "planning ahead". Thirdly, Jossed.
    • But Elpis isn't hope. Elpis is the expectation of something to happen. It can be something good, or something absolutely horrible, as anyone can tell if they read Ancient Greek manuscripts.
  • As above, Jossed, though he may be a villian, now working with Gaia.

There will be another series by Riordan about Norse Mythology.

Completing the big three Western mythologies.

  • Son of Thor? Yes Please.
  • Ziggy [1] Thompson and The Asgardians?
    • His companions will be a snarky daughter of Odin and a dwarf. At the end of the first book, they will be betrayed by a son of Loki who is in league with Surtr and wants to bring about the Ragnarok. Ziggy will bathe in Fafnir's blood and become invincible like Percy. And when the two meet, it will be an extended game of grabass to see who can stab the others weak spot first.
    • The storyline will involve, at some point, werewolves, following one part of the Sigmund myth. Also, it will be mentioned that like the Greek demigods, Norse ones tend to have ADHD. However, it's far more likely in their family to manifest as bouts of Unstoppable Rage. Rather than suffering from Latin-Cyrillic dyslexia, they have to deal with a measure of Gigantism(all being, at the very least, exceptionally big and strong, if not so much as to get a special medical label) and a huge appetite.
  • Confirmed!
    • YAY!!!

Tying in with the above WMG there will be another one about Eastern mythology.

...for the hell of it.

  • And how do any Westerners know so much about Eastern Mythology?
  • What "Eastern Mythology"? Japanese Mythology? Hindu Mythology? Arabian Mythology?
    • All of them.
    • The gods (all of them, including the metaphysical one ) MUST grant him immortality so he can complete this massive endeavor!

And the natural progression of all of this will be...

Percy, Carter, Jason and the son of Thor will team up with the daughter of the Jade Emperor, the son of Susano-o, a child of Quetzalcoatl, the son of Lugh, trained by Cu Chulainn, the child of Baron Samedi and the child of Ganesha.

They will travel the world and epic crossovers will be had by all. Percy will do battle with Orochi, Carter will engage Meretseger who has allied with Surtr and strives to bring about the Ragnarok. The Chinese and Japanese demigods will enjoy a vitriolic relationship culminating with them squaring off against Ame-No-Mikaboshi while getting married on a sinking ship. Meanwhile, Jason will be sucked into a Love Triangle with the daughter of Baron Samedi and the daughter of Quetzalcoatl while they try and stop Loki and Tezcatlipoca from upending the world and bringing about chaos. The son of Lugh will die in the throws of the ristrad while bringing down Gaia and the child of Ganesha will put an end to Danu while transcending the cycle of suffering...

And where exactly would Apophis be?

That, or they'll all just play Scion...

      • Or Mythomagic.
  • So, since this HAD to be asked eventually... Does Susano-o's kid get Masamune to forge him a sword?
  • Chinese, Japanese, Aztec, and Hindu are unlikely, since magic moves with the heart of the west, which pretty much removes the possibility of American myth pre-1500s, and certainly removes the possibility of Asian myth.

There will be a series by Riordan about Arthurian Mythology.

Let's face it... After the series invoking Norse Mythology, Riordan will have used all three most well-known western mythologies. The fourth most well-known would actually be the legends of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table.

All of the contributors to the Haiku pages of this very wiki are really Apollo in disguise

Artemis was pissed at him, so she sent him to TV Tropes to get his life ruined. He started the haiku section, and well...

Hera was responsible for Thalia's mother's death.

Car Crash...suuuuuuurrre... Given Hera's talent for inflicting mental conditions (see Heracles' temporary insanity) , she could have made Thalia's mother into an alcoholic and let nature do the rest.

    • Considering Hera's view on her husbands infidelities, this is almost certain.

Other famous demigods

Demeter and Aphrodite would have had the most adult Demigods because it's mentioned early on in the series that monsters would be less drawn to them.

Famous children of Aphrodite would probably be but aren't limited to:

  • Jane Austen
  • Rudolph Valentino
  • Annette Funicello
  • Megan Fox (or she could be Aphrodite in disguise. That explains why her appearance is always changing).
  • Marilyn Monroe
  • Julie Harris
  • George Gobel
  • Jennifer Jones
  • Many real life Alpha Bitches.
  • Justin Bieber - His massive Hatedom and Hate Dumb is an organized attempt by the children of Apollo for revenge.
    • Until Anonymous/the internet caught on. Now it's just Hatedom.
  • Taylor Swift - Same as Bieber, and damn if she didn't inherit her mother's characteristics!
  • Dr. Will.

Famous children of Demeter would probably be:

  • Gregor Mendel
  • Williams; who is thought of being someone who noticed the Bartlett Pear.
  • Will Keith Kellogg; potentially her roman aspect.
  • Eli Whitney, although he might have been a child of Athena.
  • A lot of professors, deans, and ministers of Agriculture, horticulture, and related fields in the world.
  • The inventors of the greenhouse in Rome; though children of her roman aspect because, well, they were invented for Rome!
  • John or Mary Elitch (Since Elitch Gardens originally was a flower garden)
  • C.W. Post
  • René Dumont
  • Louis Pasteur; although he might have been a child of Athena.
  • Jethro Tull (Not THAT one!)
  • Robert Bakewell
  • Justus Von Liebig
  • George Washington Carver

Famous children of Apollo would be:

  • Hanson
  • The Spice Girls
  • Rush
  • Nirvana
    • I HIGHLY approve of this theory.
  • Spinal Tap - except for the drummers.
  • Elvis Presley. The Kane Chronicles (which takes place in the same universe) says he was an Egyptian magician. But it could be possible that he was a son of Apollo who fell in with the Egyptians because he didn't know his Greco-Roman heritage.
  • Johan Sebastian Bach; son of his Roman aspect though.
  • A lot of early composers, though probably a mix of his roman and greek aspect since they only made music to what was popular at the time.
  • Haydn
  • Brubeck
  • Tchaikovsky
  • Yo Yo Ma
  • Darren Criss (Since the song had to do with Greek Mythology)
  • Jimi Hendrix
  • Jimmy Page
  • Jim Morrison
  • Keith Richards
  • Edward Jenner (was doctor and less famously a poet and musician, how could he NOT be a son of Apollo?)
  • Steve Harris
  • Hansi Kursch
  • Charlton Heston

Famous children of Hades would be:

Famous children of Hermes would be:

  • Alexander Graham Bell
  • Bill Gates
  • Steve Jobs

Percy is the reincarnation of another demigod, trying for the Isles of the Blest.

  • Maybe the original Perseus, or Heracles.
    • If you take into account The Heroes of Olympus, the idea that either Percy or Jason are a reincarnated hero could work. After all, the hero that defeated the giants last time was Heracles, why not again? Perhaps Percy is Heracles, and Jason is Hercules? (And yes, I know they are different names for the same person. But Heracles' spirit was split after death in Greek Mythology - he went to Olympus as a god, but was later seen as a spirit in the Underworld by Odysseus.)
    • For a good line of irony, Percy could be Perseus and Jason could be Jason. As "easy" as that sounds.

The final enemy...

  • This ties in with WMGs above regarding series set in other mythologies. Riordan's final series is going to be a massive crossover between all these mythologies as they face off with their ultimate final enemy...God...yeah, that God...with the big G. After all, all of these religions were ultimately displaced by a series of monotheistic religions venerating a single God who declared total genocide on anyone who worshiped anything else. And yet, despite the best efforts of his followers, the other pantheons continue to influence modern society. The very last novel/series is going to be about God and his followers trying to wipe out the last vestiges of the pagan religions that they replaced.
    • Where does Jesus figure in this?
      • Jesus will be the one to gather the heroes since having three different religions worshiping him has probably thrown the Abrahamic God a bit off-kilter. Jesus, being either a false messiah, the Son of God, or a great prophet and his general attitudes, makes him more likely to attempt to keep peace between the two factions. Satan is also involved in spreading confusion and wants to bring about Armageddon. It's up to our heroes to determine if the Jesus they meet is, in fact, the real deal or is merely a fake.

The villain in the third series will be Chaos.

First, Kronos. Second, the deity who came before Kronos- Gaia. Third, the deity who came before Gaia... Chaos.

The scene in Son of Neptune when Percy finally meets Nico again will be freaking hilarious.

Search your heart. You know it to be true.

  • As long as it involves Nico saving the day, this Troper will be satisfied.
  • Both are jossed
    • On the contrary, the scene was in fact hilarious, seeing as Percy has amnesia and Nico is trying to pretend he's never seen him before.

The series takes place in the sea of trolls universe

Gaia is the dark half of the Life Force, and the demigods have to find the good half to beat her. Also the gods are a subspecies of elves, or half-fallen angels.

Chaos is only good god and Chomsky is her son.

so chaos is anarchism, Spain is were she sleeps, Chaos is God. Yes i am an anarchist.

The Norse Heroes Will Be Chosen By The Wyrd.

Or urdr, the equivalent force; It's essentially fate or destiny's force. They wouldn't be blood related, so much as the chosen battle champions of the Norse gods.

Dionysus is Carl from Aqua Teen Hunger Force

Lets look at the facts shall we:

  • Both Carl and Dionysus are described as middle aged men with a bad temper, a drinking problem, and looking in not the best of health.
  • There are theories that Carl is the reason the ATHF universe is so insane. Everything around him is pure insanity and yet he is regarded as the Only Sane Man. Keep in mind that Dionysus is also the God of Insanity as well as drinking and partying.
  • Both hate half-bloods, just of different variants. Carl hates food/human hybrids, Dionysus is not found of Demigods.
  • Carl has been shown to like Pac-man much like Dionysus.

Kurt Cobain isn't Apollo's son...

Apollo IS Kurt. He fits the description to Apollo's mortal form to a T, and he's a genius at poetic lyrics as well as fantastic guitar skills. Kurt Cobain was a social experiment done by Apollo for shits and giggles.

    • So Apollo just got bored of his Cobain disguise around '94 and decided to fuck with our minds, bring SHITLOADS of tears, and kill a genre just as it started, and pretend to have shot himself? Not cool

The series is set in the same universe as The Spiderwick Chronicles

Think about it: European mythical creatures in America that are Invisible to Normals unless said normals are the seventh son of a seventh son, the seventh daughter of a seventh daughter or (Wait for it) have red hair. Three words: Rachel Elizabeth Dare! But, now we are left with a question: Is Sally Jackson the seventh daughter of a seventh daughter?

The members of Muse are sons of the actual Muses.

With anti-olympian sympathys. Hence Uprising.

Charlie Sheen is a half-blood.

Taking into account his strange behaviour, his substance abuse, and womanizing ways (With a preference for "Godesses"), I'm guessing he's the son of Dionysus. What do you guys think?

  • He has Adonis DNA!
  • "I am on a drug, it's called Charlie Sheen! It's not available because if you try it once, you will die. Your face will melt off and your children will weep over your exploded body." A confused reference to Ambrosia or Nectar?

The Killers are also half-bloods.

And I'm on my knees, looking for the answer Are we human, or are we dancer?

Got a feeling their gonna break down the door Got a feeling their gonna come back for more

Riordan will do a series based on Norse Mythology

  • As a matter of fact, he is.

4chan was created by Dionysus

God of insanity and drinking. Makes perfect sense.

Annabeth and Percy will have a son...

Who will be Luke's reincarnation. Percy and Annabeth will sense this somehow, but not bring it up because it's too painful.

The rare humans who can see through the Mist are candidates for the Oracle.

Two of the three people we see who can see through the Mist attempt to become the Oracle (Rachel is successful). In addition, all three of the ones we see are female, and the Oracle spirit tends to prefer young females. The difference is that Sally Jackson chose not to take up the opportunity.

  • I thought this was already known fact in the series.

Whoever made Mythomagic is a demigod. Or god (Hermes/Apollo?)

It's stated the Hades figurine that's the cause of Bianca's death has a resemblance to the actual Hades. Now how would someone know...

Percy Jackson is in the same universe as Harry Potter

Let's break down the similarities between the two worlds, shall we? Both:

  • Are home to a host of mythical creatures, some even crossing over from Greek Mythology like griffons, unicorns, dragons, and of course, the prominence of owls
  • Have a shield that makes it so normal people can't see magical or mythical things
  • Have names that mean more that meets the eye (Minerva and Hermione especially)
  • Quests characters must fulfill
  • Go by the fact that you can't fight fate

Also, where does all of this magic in Harry Potter stem from? It's never explained in Harry Potter how the magic came to be, it's only implied that it has always been around. That, coupled with the fact that the Roman Camp implies that even distant ancestors of the gods still hold abilities and powers of their blood line, it could be that after centuries of the gods having children, and those children having children and so forth, that a whole new breed of people were born with the ability to manipulate the world around them, because their ancestral backgrounds became so watered down that they no longer have the specific powers full on Demigods do. Instead, they have the potential to hone and shape their left over raw power how they please. They need wands to hone that power, because on its own it isn't nearly as powerful as a demigod's. The Harry Potter world may just be the result of hundreds of years of god blood breeding in and out of society.

  1. ↑ (Short for Sigurd, of course)
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