What the Hell, Hero?/Comic Books: Difference between revisions

* ''[[Watchmen]]'': The Comedian and Rorschach both live across the line, and the other heroes feel appropriately uneasy about them. And no one's exactly thrilled with what {{spoiler|Ozymandias}} does either.

** Interestingly (and to some degree, ironically) enough, the Comedian actually '''gives''' one to Dr. Manhattan after he protests his murdering a Vietnamese woman; he notes that Manhattan could have stopped him, but chose not to.

* Recently in his self-titled comic book, ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog (comics)|Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' has defeated {{spoiler|Dr. Robotnik. Suddenly, Robotnik flipped out, tearing off most of his mustache-Sonic winced in pain seeing that-and collapsed, babbling incoherently.}} When Sally showed up and asked what happened, Sonic didn't know, saying he beat him like normal. Snively then walks up to them and says that Sonic didn't just beat {{spoiler|Robotnik, he broke him. Snivley gives a [[Hannibal Lecture|speech]] where he acknowledges, "eccentrics aside", Robotnik is a genius and master planner, having conquered the planet in a few years. He says that Robotnik was losing his mind as a result of Sonic being the one thing he couldn't figure during his decade long reign, and Sonic winning again just now finally pushed Robotnik over the edge. Snively then asked to be left alone to take care of his uncle. As a result, ''[[Crowning Moment of Awesome|Snively denied Sonic the thrill of victory, and instead made him feel bad about what he did.]]'' }}

** More recently, Mina Mongoose called out the Freedom Fighters for keeping NICOLE around, even after she was [[Brainwashed and Crazy|brainwashed]] by the Iron Dominion, during which time it was shown just how [[AI Is a Crapshoot|big a threat]] she could potentially be.

** Also sometimes happens to Batman's protégés Nightwing and Robin when ''their'' teammates judge they're starting [[Not So Different|to behave too much like their mentor]].

** Oracle also got a rather epic calling out after Huntress realized her "missions" were really a covert therapy session. Offended that Barbara was trying to "fix" her, she left the team, but not without giving one last parting shot:

'''Huntress:''' ''[[Punctuated for Emphasis|Just. Like. Him.]]'' }}

** During the Red Robin/Batgirl Collision crossover, Stephanie Brown delivers a rant to Tim Drake, after hearing he led the League of Assassins, about his hypocrisy and moral ambiguity. Then he admits that she is entirely correct, and he'll try to be better in the future. This is this trope when it actually works - Superboy did several subtle hints around this theme an issue (of Red Robin, not the preceding Batgirl) earlier.

* Happens several times in the ''[[Squadron Supreme]]'' limited series, as the Squadron continue their efforts to take over the world. Most of the callouts are given by Blackhawk, but Amphibian gets in a few licks too.

* Done rather humourously in an arc of ''[[Ultimate Spider-Man]]'' which sees Peter mind-swapped with Logan by Jean Grey she gets sick of Logan hitting on her. For Peter, the result was as thus: he had [[Humiliation Conga|woken up in Wolverine's body, freaked out, tried to call the X-Men for help (and got laughed at for his trouble,) accidentally cut off his own fingers, got a car flipped over on him, gotten tased, arrested and shot in the face by anti-mutite police, and then had to take crap from Wolverine (who nearly got him kicked out of school, lipped off to Aunt May, tried to get some from Mary Jane and nearly blew Peter's secret identity) about his life.]] Although swapping his brain with Peter was an unintended side-effect, not surprisingly, Peter -- who didn't ask for any of this, has had an utterly shitty experience because of it, and doesn't appreciate Jean's rather glib attitude to the situation -- is quick to give her a rather [[Cluster F-Bomb|expletive-strewn]] piece of his mind once it's all sorted out. Once he's stormed off, Jean is left rather shaken and promising to send him a basket of something in apology. That would piss anyone off.

** He also chews out Colossus, much to Colossus' confusion.

* In ''[[Courtney Crumrin and the Night Things|Courtney Crumrin and the Monster Holiday]]'', Uncle Aloysius receives one from an innkeeper for his failing to notice the emotional weaknesses of Courtney, which resulted in her trusting and being fed on by a vampire. The innkeeper points out that Courtney is just a child and has been forced to grow up quickly to take care of herself, while her uncle treated her "like a piece of inconvenient baggage" on the trip.

** Courtney gives a few herself. Namely:

*** Considering her comments kicked off the massive [[Dork Age]] that is "Superman: Grounded", this is less [[Lampshade Hanging]] and more [[Straw Man Has a Point]].

* The [[Transformers]] comic has this:

** In one of the the IDW ''[[All Hail Megatron]]'' universe, the Autobot Sideswipe calls out the other Autobots {{spoiler|after Sunstreaker "sacrifices" himself to stop the insecticon swarm}}, for abandoning Earth to the Decepticons. However, it mainly falls flat when {{spoiler|Optimus Prime has been rescued from death yet again, and retakes command.}}

* This has happened with Wonder Woman a lot after {{spoiler|she killed Max Lord}}. It seems like every character is attacking her for this even though it was the reasonable option at the time. This reached amazing levels of [[Informed Wrongness]] - with almost no one willing to give Diana (who was universally beloved hours before her actions) the benefit of the doubt... especially Superman and Batman, who saw the whole thing and knew what little choice Diana had.

* In the last year of ''[[Batman and the Outsiders|Outsiders]]'', Geo-Force (who is both a king and a superhero) has been treating the team as his subjects, and specifically using them as a Markovian special forces team. Black Lightning finally gets fed up of repeating [[What the Hell, Hero?]], and takes half the team back to America.

* Cyclops has given one to Magik in [[New Mutants]], on the account of the fact that in her personal vendetta against [[Eldritch Abomination|Elder Gods]] she manipulated her friends and teammates, almost got them killed and risked the destruction of reality itself without second thought and probably would do that again if she had to, which is the reason why they cannot trust her anymore and she must be restrained, until she'll prove herself not to be danger to the team and all mutants on island. Later, through it happens off-panel, Colossus clearly has told Scott what he thinks about not only the whole idea of restraining his sister but also the fact that he has took most dangerous members of the team to take her down in case she wouldn't accept his terms and send everybody who are emotionally attached to her, one way or another, on a mission, so they wouldn't interfere.

** In X-Men's main series this is followed by Kitty tearing Peter a new one for trying to justify Illyana's behavior and not accepting that she is not as innocent as she used to be. Then Peter gives Scott another one again, for {{spoiler|planning to make Illyana new avatar of Cyttorak, a.k.a. [[The Juggernaut]]}} but Scott lists several arguments at his defense. And then Kitty gives one to Peter again, for {{spoiler|becoming new Juggernaut}}. Also, Cyclops gives one to majoyr Sadie for {{spoiler|planning to destroy Utopia in the case X-Men won't stop Juggernaut}}.

* [[The Mighty Thor|Thor's]] ''hammer'', Mjolnir, manages to give Thor one during the storyline The Reigning: [[Only the Pure of Heart]] can lift the hammer, and Thor lost this ability after going into a [[Knight Templar]] spiral.

* Superman is horrified at Wonder Woman's behavior in ''[[Justice League New Frontier]]'' when he learns that Wonder Woman didn't stop a group of Indochinese women from killing the the men that murdered their families, held them captive, and repeatedly raped them... Only to have Wonder Woman throw it right back at him.

'''Wonder Woman:''' What, hand them a smile and a box of flags? Their families, their mates... their ''children'' were murdered before their eyes. This is ''civil war''. I've given them freedom and a chance for justice. The ''American Way.'' Take a good look around. There are no rules here. Just suffering and madness. I want you to go tell your undersecretary that. ''There's the door, spaceman.'' }}

* Parodied in X-Men, when mutants has to team up with [[Fantastic Four|Future Foundation]] and this exchange occures:

'''The Thing:'''' Oh yeah? Was that [[Magneto]] I saw sitting at the conference table?<br />

'''Wolverine:''' [[Hypocritical Humor|Okay, well, if you want to get technical...]]