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* [[The Muppet Show (TV)/YMMV|The Muppet Show]]
* [[The Muppet Show/YMMV|The Muppet Show]]
* [[Muppet Babies (Animation)/YMMV|Muppet Babies]]
* [[Muppet Babies/YMMV|Muppet Babies]]
* [[A Muppet Family Christmas/YMMV|A Muppet Family Christmas]]
* [[A Muppet Family Christmas/YMMV|A Muppet Family Christmas]]
* [[Muppet Vision 3D/YMMV|Muppet Vision 3D]]
* [[Muppet*Vision 3D/YMMV|Muppet Vision 3D]]
* [[The Muppet Christmas Carol/YMMV|The Muppet Christmas Carol]]
* [[The Muppet Christmas Carol/YMMV|The Muppet Christmas Carol]]
* [[Muppet Treasure Island/YMMV|Muppet Treasure Island]]
* [[Muppet Treasure Island/YMMV|Muppet Treasure Island]]
* [[Muppets From Space/YMMV|Muppets From Space]]
* [[Muppets from Space/YMMV|Muppets From Space]]
* [[It's a Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie/YMMV|Its a Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie]]
* [[It's a Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie/YMMV|Its a Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie]]
* [[The Muppets Wizard of Oz/YMMV|The Muppets Wizard of Oz]]
* [[The Muppets Wizard of Oz/YMMV|The Muppets Wizard of Oz]]
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* [[The Muppet Show Comic Book/YMMV|The Muppet Show Comic Book]]
* [[The Muppet Show Comic Book/YMMV|The Muppet Show Comic Book]]
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=== YMMVs for the film ''[[The Muppets (Film)|The Muppets]]'': ===
== YMMVs for the film ''[[The Muppets (film)|The Muppets]]'' ==
* [[Acceptable Targets]]: During the [[Putting the Band Back Together]] montage, Sam the Eagle is an anchor for his own news segment "Everything Stinks", and on the bottom scrolling bar is a list of everything in the world that stinks, such as the French, and the ''[[Mind Screw|non-French]]''.
* [[Acceptable Targets]]: During the [[Putting the Band Back Together]] montage, Sam the Eagle is an anchor for his own news segment "Everything Stinks", and on the bottom scrolling bar is a list of everything in the world that stinks, such as the French, and the ''[[Mind Screw|non-French]]''.
** Sam's straitlaced behavior and appeal to patriotism was always a mild satire of conservatives -- he even had to be reminded in ''[[The Muppet Christmas Carol]]'' that he was British, not American. If conservatives have any issue with him, it's probably down to him being humorless.
** Sam's straitlaced behavior and appeal to patriotism was always a mild satire of conservatives—he even had to be reminded in ''[[The Muppet Christmas Carol]]'' that he was British, not American. If conservatives have any issue with him, it's probably down to him being humorless.
** The Muppets also figure it's okay to kidnap Jack Black to host the show, because "a celebrity is not a people". Although, [[Cloudcuckoolander|Lew Zealand]] says this, so the thought may not have been shared by all. Kermit was openly against it.
** The Muppets also figure it's okay to kidnap Jack Black to host the show, because "a celebrity is not a people". Although, [[Cloudcuckoolander|Lew Zealand]] says this, so the thought may not have been shared by all. Kermit was openly against it.
* [[Accidental Innuendo]]: The song "Me Party" could be taken to be about [[A Date With Rosie Palms]].
* [[Accidental Innuendo]]: The song "Me Party" could be taken to be about [[A Date with Rosie Palms]].
{{quote| No one’s gonna stop this girl from having fun<br />
{{quote|No one’s gonna stop this girl from having fun
I throw my hands up high and have a party for one<br />
I throw my hands up high and have a party for one
--<br />
--
I'm not gonna sit around by myself and wait for you<br />
I'm not gonna sit around by myself and wait for you
Haven't you heard one is the new two?<br />
Haven't you heard one is the new two?
--<br />
--
And what happens at the "me party"<br />
And what happens at the "me party"
Stays at the "me party" }}
Stays at the "me party" }}
* [[Actor Allusion]]: Jason Segal has been dating a [[Heroes Want Redheads|redheaded]] [[Hot for Teacher|elementary school teacher]] for a decade. [[How I Met Your Mother|Sound familiar?]]
* [[Actor Allusion]]: Jason Segal has been dating a [[Heroes Want Redheads|redheaded]] [[Hot for Teacher|elementary school teacher]] for a decade. [[How I Met Your Mother|Sound familiar?]]
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** Rowlf is more prominent in the trailers than he's been in any other Muppet production since [[Jim Henson]]'s death. He even gets his own ''[[Twilight]]''-parody poster.
** Rowlf is more prominent in the trailers than he's been in any other Muppet production since [[Jim Henson]]'s death. He even gets his own ''[[Twilight]]''-parody poster.
** Scooter, Rowlf, Sweetums, and especially Uncle Deadly get more screen time in the film proper than they ever had in years now that the studio found suitable replacements for Richard Hunt and Jerry Nelson.
** Scooter, Rowlf, Sweetums, and especially Uncle Deadly get more screen time in the film proper than they ever had in years now that the studio found suitable replacements for Richard Hunt and Jerry Nelson.
** Gonzo ''will not'' be [[Muppets From Space|from space]], or at least, the story will never focus on that.
** Gonzo ''will not'' be [[Muppets from Space|from space]], or at least, the story will never focus on that.
** Several old Muppets making a return, including a few obscure ones.
** Several old Muppets making a return, including a few obscure ones.
** [[Human-Focused Adaptation|The humans will]] [[Subverted Trope|not be the central characters,]] and it will mostly focus on the Muppets themselves (though the trailers may show otherwise).
** [[Human-Focused Adaptation|The humans will]] [[Subverted Trope|not be the central characters,]] and it will mostly focus on the Muppets themselves (though the trailers may show otherwise).
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** Also the fart shoes.
** Also the fart shoes.
** "Me Party" doesn't advance the plot, and Mary might have taken too much of it for herself, but it's dang catchy.
** "Me Party" doesn't advance the plot, and Mary might have taken too much of it for herself, but it's dang catchy.
* [[Big Lipped Alligator Moment]]: Oscar-winner Chris Cooper...rapping?
* [[Non Sequitur Scene]]: Oscar-winner Chris Cooper...rapping?
** Amy Adams singing and dancing alone in a diner, surrounded by a border of LEDs? The part where she made bread can-can looked pretty crazy as well.
** Amy Adams singing and dancing alone in a diner, surrounded by a border of LEDs? The part where she made bread can-can looked pretty crazy as well.
*** So Amy Adams does her ''[[Fridge Brilliance|own puppetting!]]''
*** So Amy Adams does her ''[[Fridge Brilliance|own puppetting!]]''
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* [[Critical Dissonance]]: One of the most frustrating examples. ''The Muppets'' was one of the best-reviewed movies of 2011 and most who saw it did in fact praise the film. Unfortunately, most general audiences seemed to think ''[[Breaking Dawn]]'' and ''[[Alvin and The Chipmunks|Alvin and the Chipmunks: Chipwrecked]]'' looked like the superior movies and saved their money for those, leading to a solid but not certainly great box office total.
* [[Critical Dissonance]]: One of the most frustrating examples. ''The Muppets'' was one of the best-reviewed movies of 2011 and most who saw it did in fact praise the film. Unfortunately, most general audiences seemed to think ''[[Breaking Dawn]]'' and ''[[Alvin and The Chipmunks|Alvin and the Chipmunks: Chipwrecked]]'' looked like the superior movies and saved their money for those, leading to a solid but not certainly great box office total.
* [[Crowning Music of Awesome]]: [[Flight of the Conchords|Bret McKenzie]] wrote the new musical numbers for the film. They're a ton of fun and even include some very ''Conchords''-esque lyrics.
* [[Crowning Music of Awesome]]: [[Flight of the Conchords|Bret McKenzie]] wrote the new musical numbers for the film. They're a ton of fun and even include some very ''Conchords''-esque lyrics.
{{quote| ''Am I a man''<br />
{{quote|''Am I a man''
''Or am I a muppet?''<br />
''Or am I a muppet?''
''If I'm a muppet''<br />
''If I'm a muppet''
''Then I'm a very manly muppet.'' }}
''Then I'm a very manly muppet.'' }}
** {{spoiler|[[Nirvana|"Smells Like Teen Spirit"]] as a '''barbershop quartet.'''}}
** {{spoiler|[[Nirvana|"Smells Like Teen Spirit"]] as a '''barbershop quartet.'''}}
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** "Man or Muppet". ''It won an Oscar''.
** "Man or Muppet". ''It won an Oscar''.
** Both versions of "Life's A Happy Song", especially the {{spoiler|[[Triumphant Reprise]] led by the Muppets themselves}}. {{spoiler|The [[Crowd Song|entire crowd joins in too]], which is [[Fridge Brilliance|definitely what would happen in real life if the Muppets suddenly broke into song after being cheered on by their fans]]!}}
** Both versions of "Life's A Happy Song", especially the {{spoiler|[[Triumphant Reprise]] led by the Muppets themselves}}. {{spoiler|The [[Crowd Song|entire crowd joins in too]], which is [[Fridge Brilliance|definitely what would happen in real life if the Muppets suddenly broke into song after being cheered on by their fans]]!}}
** "Let's Talk About Me". The [[Corrupt Corporate Executive]] [[Big Bad]] breaks into rap [[Big Lipped Alligator Moment|for no good reason]], to [[Piss-Take Rap|predictable]] ([[Stylistic Suck|and hilarious]]) [[So Bad It's Good|ends]].
** "Let's Talk About Me". The [[Corrupt Corporate Executive]] [[Big Bad]] breaks into rap [[Non Sequitur Scene|for no good reason]], to [[Piss-Take Rap|predictable]] ([[Stylistic Suck|and hilarious]]) [[So Bad It's Good|ends]].
* [[Ear Worm]]: ''Life's a happy song, when there's someone by your side to sing along''.
* [[Ear Worm]]: ''Life's a happy song, when there's someone by your side to sing along''.
** The {{spoiler|ending reprise}} especially!
** The {{spoiler|ending reprise}} especially!
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* [[Like You Would Really Do It]]: {{spoiler|[[Double Subverted]]. The Hail Mary telethon fails, the magic fix at the end falls through, and Kermit's ready to start the group again from the ground up, with whatever fans they have left, no studio and no Muppet name. If it wasn't for the fact that the fandom came in droves, and Gonzo's bowling ball makes a rather persuasive argument towards Tex Richman giving up his claim on The Muppet Show studio, this would have easily been a very subverted trope.}}
* [[Like You Would Really Do It]]: {{spoiler|[[Double Subverted]]. The Hail Mary telethon fails, the magic fix at the end falls through, and Kermit's ready to start the group again from the ground up, with whatever fans they have left, no studio and no Muppet name. If it wasn't for the fact that the fandom came in droves, and Gonzo's bowling ball makes a rather persuasive argument towards Tex Richman giving up his claim on The Muppet Show studio, this would have easily been a very subverted trope.}}
* [[Narm Charm]]: The Swedish Chef's gibberish during the movie's more sentimental moments, like "Pictures In My Head" and {{spoiler|after the telethon ends and the Muppets failed to raise the $10,000,000.}}
* [[Narm Charm]]: The Swedish Chef's gibberish during the movie's more sentimental moments, like "Pictures In My Head" and {{spoiler|after the telethon ends and the Muppets failed to raise the $10,000,000.}}
{{quote| '''Swedish Chef:''' ''(sadly, while cuddling the chickens)'' ...Chickee.}}
{{quote|'''Swedish Chef:''' ''(sadly, while cuddling the chickens)'' ...Chickee.}}
** "Gary, I like you, but you have to decide: Are you a man, or a Muppet?"
** "Gary, I like you, but you have to decide: Are you a man, or a Muppet?"
* [[Nightmare Fuel]]: Bunsen and Beaker were working on the [[wikipedia:Large Hadron Collider|Large Hadron Collider]].
* [[Nightmare Fuel]]: Bunsen and Beaker were working on the [[wikipedia:Large Hadron Collider|Large Hadron Collider]].
* [[Spoiled By the Format]]: Lampshaded about half an hour in.
* [[Spoiled by the Format]]: Lampshaded about half an hour in.
{{quote| '''Mary:''' This is going to be a really short movie.}}
{{quote|'''Mary:''' This is going to be a really short movie.}}
* [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad]]: Walter gets more focus than any other character, even Kermit (it's debatable whether Gary and Mary get more focus than the main Muppets as well). Thankfully, the guy turned out to be [[Ensemble Darkhorse|an immensely popular and likeable character]], preventing him from becoming the [[Creator's Pet]] he could have easily become.
* [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad]]: Walter gets more focus than any other character, even Kermit (it's debatable whether Gary and Mary get more focus than the main Muppets as well). Thankfully, the guy turned out to be [[Ensemble Darkhorse|an immensely popular and likeable character]], preventing him from becoming the [[Creator's Pet]] he could have easily become.
* [[Tear Jerker]]: [[The Muppets (Franchise)/Tear Jerker|There are a few moments]].
* [[Tear Jerker]]: [[The Muppets/Tear Jerker|There are a few moments]].
* [[What Do You Mean It's Not Political?]]: Many people on [[Fox News|more conservative news shows]] were upset that the villain was a CEO who wanted to drill for oil, saying that the Muppets were promoting class warfare for children. They [[Did Not Do the Research]], since it later becomes clear that Tex Richman is evil not because he is a CEO, rich, or wants oil, but ''because he is unable to laugh'' and laughter, aka the third greatest gift ever, is necessary for happiness. ...though, anything concerning his back story was cut, which does not help any!
* [[What Do You Mean It's Not Political?]]: Many people on [[Fox News|more conservative news shows]] were upset that the villain was a CEO who wanted to drill for oil, saying that the Muppets were promoting class warfare for children. They [[Did Not Do the Research]], since it later becomes clear that Tex Richman is evil not because he is a CEO, rich, or wants oil, but ''because he is unable to laugh'' and laughter, aka the third greatest gift ever, is necessary for happiness. ...though, anything concerning his back story was cut, which does not help any!
** As well as the fact that any five-year-old would know he's a caricature just by the name and [[Large Ham]] tendencies.
** As well as the fact that any five-year-old would know he's a caricature just by the name and [[Large Ham]] tendencies.
** To say nothing of the fact that Kermit is himself a CEO of The Muppets as an incorporated entity -- and while not stinking rich, was still well off enough to be living in a swanky house and keeping it in good repair. So it was one corp guy against another corp ... er, frog.
** To say nothing of the fact that Kermit is himself a CEO of The Muppets as an incorporated entity—and while not stinking rich, was still well off enough to be living in a swanky house and keeping it in good repair. So it was one corp guy against another corp ... er, frog.
*** In fact, paying more attention reveals that Gonzo was rich in the movie, but his disruptive behavior prevented him from buying out the theater -- he had the money, and blew it up in his enthusiasm to return. Far from class warfare, the movie paints Gonzo as caring about the Muppets nearly as much as he cared about Camilla's feelings. Similarly, Piggy's portrayed as well-off, but never flaunts this beyond the vanity that's been part of the character since the original show.
*** In fact, paying more attention reveals that Gonzo was rich in the movie, but his disruptive behavior prevented him from buying out the theater—he had the money, and blew it up in his enthusiasm to return. Far from class warfare, the movie paints Gonzo as caring about the Muppets nearly as much as he cared about Camilla's feelings. Similarly, Piggy's portrayed as well-off, but never flaunts this beyond the vanity that's been part of the character since the original show.
* [[Win Back the Crowd]]: Both in-universe ''and'' in real life. It helps that the [[Muppets From Space|last film before this one]] came out over a decade before this one.
* [[Win Back the Crowd]]: Both in-universe ''and'' in real life. It helps that the [[Muppets from Space|last film before this one]] came out over a decade before this one.
* [[The Woobie]]: Walter and Kermit, big time.
* [[The Woobie]]: Walter and Kermit, big time.
* [[You Bastard]]: It's pretty hard not to feel guilty while watching this movie if your interest in the Muppets has waned since your childhood.
* [[You Bastard]]: It's pretty hard not to feel guilty while watching this movie if your interest in the Muppets has waned since your childhood.


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YMMVs for the film The Muppets

  • Acceptable Targets: During the Putting the Band Back Together montage, Sam the Eagle is an anchor for his own news segment "Everything Stinks", and on the bottom scrolling bar is a list of everything in the world that stinks, such as the French, and the non-French.
    • Sam's straitlaced behavior and appeal to patriotism was always a mild satire of conservatives—he even had to be reminded in The Muppet Christmas Carol that he was British, not American. If conservatives have any issue with him, it's probably down to him being humorless.
    • The Muppets also figure it's okay to kidnap Jack Black to host the show, because "a celebrity is not a people". Although, Lew Zealand says this, so the thought may not have been shared by all. Kermit was openly against it.
  • Accidental Innuendo: The song "Me Party" could be taken to be about A Date with Rosie Palms.

No one’s gonna stop this girl from having fun
I throw my hands up high and have a party for one
--
I'm not gonna sit around by myself and wait for you
Haven't you heard one is the new two?
--
And what happens at the "me party"
Stays at the "me party"

  • Actor Allusion: Jason Segal has been dating a redheaded elementary school teacher for a decade. Sound familiar?
  • Alternative Character Interpretation: This speaks for itself.
    • But honestly, what can you expect from FOX News?
      • They did get a mild Take That, though, in the above-referenced Sam the Eagle bit. It's possible that someone took offense.
  • And the Fandom Rejoiced: MOTHER OF ZOD.
    • For starters, the film returns to the format set by the first five films.
    • The writers are huge Muppet fans, and promised (and delivered) an old-school Muppet film.
    • Rowlf is more prominent in the trailers than he's been in any other Muppet production since Jim Henson's death. He even gets his own Twilight-parody poster.
    • Scooter, Rowlf, Sweetums, and especially Uncle Deadly get more screen time in the film proper than they ever had in years now that the studio found suitable replacements for Richard Hunt and Jerry Nelson.
    • Gonzo will not be from space, or at least, the story will never focus on that.
    • Several old Muppets making a return, including a few obscure ones.
    • The humans will not be the central characters, and it will mostly focus on the Muppets themselves (though the trailers may show otherwise).
      • This turned out to be subverted for the movie itself. The hierachy of character focus goes something like this: Walter[1] -> Kermit, Piggy and Fozzie -> Gary and Mary -> all the other Muppets and human characters.
    • Hell, the film's entire existence is enough for the fans to go crazy.
    • And then the trailer was released. Even naysayers thrown off by the poster were looking forward to the film.
    • Also, Pixar helped doctor the script.
    • Well, it has 97% on Rotten Tomatoes. The wait was worth it!
  • Base Breaker: Pepe's prior status as one divided fans into two camps: the "thank God Pepe didn't have more screentime in this movie" camp, and the "Pepe should have had more screentime" camp.
    • Also the fart shoes.
    • "Me Party" doesn't advance the plot, and Mary might have taken too much of it for herself, but it's dang catchy.
  • Non Sequitur Scene: Oscar-winner Chris Cooper...rapping?
    • Amy Adams singing and dancing alone in a diner, surrounded by a border of LEDs? The part where she made bread can-can looked pretty crazy as well.
  • Crazy Awesome: Gonzo. Okay, it's really no surprise coming from him, but he takes it to new heights when it's revealed that he's not only been expecting a reunion and thus had been wearing his stage outfit under his suit for years, but he also had an automatic Self-Destruct Mechanism for the big business he's been in charge of.
  • Critical Dissonance: One of the most frustrating examples. The Muppets was one of the best-reviewed movies of 2011 and most who saw it did in fact praise the film. Unfortunately, most general audiences seemed to think Breaking Dawn and Alvin and the Chipmunks: Chipwrecked looked like the superior movies and saved their money for those, leading to a solid but not certainly great box office total.
  • Crowning Music of Awesome: Bret McKenzie wrote the new musical numbers for the film. They're a ton of fun and even include some very Conchords-esque lyrics.

Am I a man
Or am I a muppet?
If I'm a muppet
Then I'm a very manly muppet.

Swedish Chef: (sadly, while cuddling the chickens) ...Chickee.

Mary: This is going to be a really short movie.

  • Spotlight-Stealing Squad: Walter gets more focus than any other character, even Kermit (it's debatable whether Gary and Mary get more focus than the main Muppets as well). Thankfully, the guy turned out to be an immensely popular and likeable character, preventing him from becoming the Creator's Pet he could have easily become.
  • Tear Jerker: There are a few moments.
  • What Do You Mean It's Not Political?: Many people on more conservative news shows were upset that the villain was a CEO who wanted to drill for oil, saying that the Muppets were promoting class warfare for children. They Did Not Do the Research, since it later becomes clear that Tex Richman is evil not because he is a CEO, rich, or wants oil, but because he is unable to laugh and laughter, aka the third greatest gift ever, is necessary for happiness. ...though, anything concerning his back story was cut, which does not help any!
    • As well as the fact that any five-year-old would know he's a caricature just by the name and Large Ham tendencies.
    • To say nothing of the fact that Kermit is himself a CEO of The Muppets as an incorporated entity—and while not stinking rich, was still well off enough to be living in a swanky house and keeping it in good repair. So it was one corp guy against another corp ... er, frog.
      • In fact, paying more attention reveals that Gonzo was rich in the movie, but his disruptive behavior prevented him from buying out the theater—he had the money, and blew it up in his enthusiasm to return. Far from class warfare, the movie paints Gonzo as caring about the Muppets nearly as much as he cared about Camilla's feelings. Similarly, Piggy's portrayed as well-off, but never flaunts this beyond the vanity that's been part of the character since the original show.
  • Win Back the Crowd: Both in-universe and in real life. It helps that the last film before this one came out over a decade before this one.
  • The Woobie: Walter and Kermit, big time.
  • You Bastard: It's pretty hard not to feel guilty while watching this movie if your interest in the Muppets has waned since your childhood.

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  1. technically qualifies as both a human and a non-human; he's a "muppet" with a lowercase "m"