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Whenever an army of evil creatures like Orcs and such is introduced, be sure that most of the time they will be armed with scimitars, falchions, sabers and other curved weapons. Alternatively, a particular evil character or warrior is armed with such a weapon to underline his bad guy status. Seen more often if the "good guys" or the "good army" wields straight swords.
Whenever an army of evil creatures like Orcs and such is introduced, be sure that most of the time they will be armed with scimitars, falchions, sabers and other curved weapons. Alternatively, a particular evil character or warrior is armed with such a weapon to underline his bad guy status. Seen more often if the "good guys" or the "good army" wields straight swords.


Probably born from the European view of the Crusades, where the [[Protagonist Centered Morality|righteous Christians]] were fighting the scimitar-wielding Arabs and Turks ([[Did Not Do the Research|even though Arabs preferred the spear and straight sword as weapons]]). Another possible influence could be cutlass-wielding pirates.
Probably born from the European view of the Crusades, where the [[Protagonist-Centered Morality|righteous Christians]] were fighting the scimitar-wielding Arabs and Turks ([[Did Not Do the Research|even though Arabs preferred the spear and straight sword as weapons]]). Another possible influence could be cutlass-wielding pirates.


In Chinese wuxia novels and movies, straight double edged swords ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jian jian], usually the taiji type which is thinner) are also preferred over large single edged swords ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dao_<!-- 28sword29 daidao]]), probably it looks way [[RuleOfCool cooler]] to beat someone with a bigger sword, and adding to the realism, they don't use designer weapons they make up, but RealLife weapons that are roughly the correct size. Some older novels prefer heroes use pole weapons though. -->
In Chinese wuxia novels and movies, straight double edged swords ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jian jian], usually the taiji type which is thinner) are also preferred over large single edged swords ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dao_<!-- 28sword29 daidao]]), probably it looks way [[RuleOfCool cooler]] to beat someone with a bigger sword, and adding to the realism, they don't use designer weapons they make up, but RealLife weapons that are roughly the correct size. Some older novels prefer heroes use pole weapons though. -->
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== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==
== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==
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* [[Knight of Cerebus|Tao Pai Pai]] and [[Demon Lords and Archdevils|Darbula]] from ''[[Dragonball]]''. Also [http://images.wikia.com/dragonball/images/e/e3/YamchaVsGoku.png Yamcha during his bandit career]. This was [http://images.wikia.com/dragonball/images/f/fc/Westwoodsword.jpg carried over in the] live action adaptation ''Dragon Ball: The Magic Begins''.
* [[Knight of Cerebus|Tao Pai Pai]] and [[Demon Lords and Archdevils|Darbula]] from ''[[Dragonball]]''. Also [http://images.wikia.com/dragonball/images/e/e3/YamchaVsGoku.png Yamcha during his bandit career]. This was [http://images.wikia.com/dragonball/images/f/fc/Westwoodsword.jpg carried over in the] live action adaptation ''Dragon Ball: The Magic Begins''.
** [[Filler Villain|Lord Yao]] in the [[Dragon Ball GT|DragonBall GT Movie]]
** [[Filler Villain|Lord Yao]] in the [[Dragon Ball GT|DragonBall GT Movie]]
* In ''[[Ranma One Half (Manga)|Ranma One Half]]'' during her first appearence [[Chinese Girl|Shampoo]] wielded a large Da Dao sword. [[Your Mileage May Vary]] about her status as an antagonist.
* In ''[[Ranma ½ (Manga)|Ranma One Half]]'' during her first appearence [[Chinese Girl|Shampoo]] wielded a large Da Dao sword. [[Your Mileage May Vary]] about her status as an antagonist.
* In ''[[Bleach (Manga)|Bleach]]'' we have Lilynette Gingerback, armed with an [[Awesome but Impractical|far too curved blade]]
* In ''[[Bleach (Manga)|Bleach]]'' we have Lilynette Gingerback, armed with an [[Awesome but Impractical|far too curved blade]]
* The pirate Porchemy in ''[[One Piece]]'' carries a huge scimitar around, and has a penchant for ''scalping his victims [[Family Unfriendly Violence|alive]]''.
* The pirate Porchemy in ''[[One Piece]]'' carries a huge scimitar around, and has a penchant for ''scalping his victims [[Family-Unfriendly Violence|alive]]''.
** Cutlasses are often found for [[Mooks]] on both Pirates and Marines, although higher-ranking marines usually tend to go for Katanas. With the exception of a [[General Ripper]] by the name of Onigumo who wields eight of them when using his powers.
** Cutlasses are often found for [[Mooks]] on both Pirates and Marines, although higher-ranking marines usually tend to go for Katanas. With the exception of a [[General Ripper]] by the name of Onigumo who wields eight of them when using his powers.
* [[Creepy Crossdresser|Jakotsu]] from ''[[Inuyasha]]''. His blade is also a [[Whip Sword]] to boot.
* [[Creepy Crossdresser|Jakotsu]] from ''[[Inuyasha]]''. His blade is also a [[Whip Sword]] to boot.
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* Orcs in ''[[Battle for Wesnoth]]'', and the Elves too ([[Your Mileage May Vary|depending on the occasion]]). Also the Naga.
* Orcs in ''[[Battle for Wesnoth]]'', and the Elves too ([[Your Mileage May Vary|depending on the occasion]]). Also the Naga.
* Marcellus in ''[[Onimusha]]''. Also Nobunaga's [[One Winged Angel]] form from the third game.
* Marcellus in ''[[Onimusha]]''. Also Nobunaga's [[One-Winged Angel]] form from the third game.
* [[Final Fantasy II (Video Game)|Count Borghen]].
* [[Final Fantasy II (Video Game)|Count Borghen]].
* In ''[[Legend of Dragoon]]'' when {{spoiler|Zieg takes back the Dragoon Spirit from Dart}} his sword becomes a sort of [[Flaming Sword|flaming scimitar]].
* In ''[[Legend of Dragoon]]'' when {{spoiler|Zieg takes back the Dragoon Spirit from Dart}} his sword becomes a sort of [[Flaming Sword|flaming scimitar]].
* The Darkspawn in ''[[Dragon Age II]]'' after their redesign (though the Darkspawn Longsword in the original game did look a lot like a Ram Dao).
* The Darkspawn in ''[[Dragon Age II]]'' after their redesign (though the Darkspawn Longsword in the original game did look a lot like a Ram Dao).
* The Dark Amazons in ''[[Drakensang|Drakensang II: The River of Time]]'' are armed with Amazonian Scimitars and later you have to fight several pirates armed with cutlasses and two-handed falchions. Note however that this is also averted by the playable character (if uses sabers) {{spoiler|And a secret summonable Jinn hidden in the Water Dragon Cavern}}.
* The Dark Amazons in ''[[Drakensang|Drakensang II: The River of Time]]'' are armed with Amazonian Scimitars and later you have to fight several pirates armed with cutlasses and two-handed falchions. Note however that this is also averted by the playable character (if uses sabers) {{spoiler|And a secret summonable Jinn hidden in the Water Dragon Cavern}}.
* Played straight with [[God of War (Video Game)|Kratos]] who's still an [[Anti Hero]]/[[Villain Protagonist]] and uses the curved (and multi-jagged) Blade of Chaos/Athena/Exile and, in the first game, Artemis' [[Big Fancy Sword|Sword]]. It's even shown in the comics that he used one when before meeting Ares. Also the [[Large and In Charge|Persian King]] and tons of scimitar-swinging mooks.
* Played straight with [[God of War (Video Game)|Kratos]] who's still an [[Anti-Hero]]/[[Villain Protagonist]] and uses the curved (and multi-jagged) Blade of Chaos/Athena/Exile and, in the first game, Artemis' [[Big Fancy Sword|Sword]]. It's even shown in the comics that he used one when before meeting Ares. Also the [[Large and In Charge|Persian King]] and tons of scimitar-swinging mooks.
* Skeleton Mooks in ''[[War Craft]] III'' are automatically armed with scimitars, no matter what. Also the [[Anti Hero]] Illidan Stormrage [[Dual Wielding|dual wields]] a contorted case of [[Double Weapon|double scimitar]].
* Skeleton Mooks in ''[[War Craft]] III'' are automatically armed with scimitars, no matter what. Also the [[Anti-Hero]] Illidan Stormrage [[Dual-Wielding|dual wields]] a contorted case of [[Double Weapon|double scimitar]].
* In ''[[Dynasty Warriors]]'' there are several scimitar users, both heroic and villainous. In the latter case, there would be Xiahou Dun (debatable) and the much less debatable [[Fat Bastard|Dong Zhuo]] who combines this with [[Serrated Blade of Pain]].
* In ''[[Dynasty Warriors]]'' there are several scimitar users, both heroic and villainous. In the latter case, there would be Xiahou Dun (debatable) and the much less debatable [[Fat Bastard|Dong Zhuo]] who combines this with [[Serrated Blade of Pain]].
* In ''[[Metal Slug]]'' 2 and 4 there are [[Qurac|arab-looking enemies]], berserkers and pirates all armed with scimitars. [[Throwing Your Sword Always Works|They can even toss it at you]].
* In ''[[Metal Slug]]'' 2 and 4 there are [[Qurac|arab-looking enemies]], berserkers and pirates all armed with scimitars. [[Throwing Your Sword Always Works|They can even toss it at you]].
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* ''[[Clive Barkers Undying]]'' has the Trsanti militants attacking you with very large scimitars.
* ''[[Clive Barkers Undying]]'' has the Trsanti militants attacking you with very large scimitars.
* [[The Dragon|Kemsyt]] from ''[[Age of Mythology (Video Game)|Age of Mythology]]''.
* [[The Dragon|Kemsyt]] from ''[[Age of Mythology (Video Game)|Age of Mythology]]''.
* In ''[[The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim]]'', the Alik'r all wield scimitars, though they aren't evil, just somewhat suspicious in the eyes of the more close-minded Nords of Skyrim. Nazir, who's a member of the [[Murder Inc|Dark Brotherhood]] fits this to a tee however.
* In ''[[The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim]]'', the Alik'r all wield scimitars, though they aren't evil, just somewhat suspicious in the eyes of the more close-minded Nords of Skyrim. Nazir, who's a member of the [[Murder, Inc.|Dark Brotherhood]] fits this to a tee however.




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== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==
== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==


* ''[[Bleach (Manga)|Bleach]]'' has [[Crouching Moron Hidden Badass|Shunsui Kyoraku]]'s Shikai, which takes the form of two large scimitars.
* ''[[Bleach (Manga)|Bleach]]'' has [[Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass|Shunsui Kyoraku]]'s Shikai, which takes the form of two large scimitars.
** Also in the filler episode 287, which has a [[Arabian Nights Days]] setting features scimitar-looking Zanpakuto for everyone.
** Also in the filler episode 287, which has a [[Arabian Nights Days]] setting features scimitar-looking Zanpakuto for everyone.
* [http://xhunterxhunterx.altervista.org/Immagini/armi/scimitarra.png Agon] from ''[[Hunter X Hunter]]''. Though he's more neutral than fully evil/good.
* [http://xhunterxhunterx.altervista.org/Immagini/armi/scimitarra.png Agon] from ''[[Hunter X Hunter]]''. Though he's more neutral than fully evil/good.
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* ''[[Conan the Barbarian]]'' has also used several curved swords himself, including scimitars, sabers and tulwars ([[Knife Nut|which are wrongly described as long knives]]). He however often stated that he was at his best with a western longsword.
* ''[[Conan the Barbarian]]'' has also used several curved swords himself, including scimitars, sabers and tulwars ([[Knife Nut|which are wrongly described as long knives]]). He however often stated that he was at his best with a western longsword.
* Averted and played straight in ''[[The Dark Elf Trilogy]]'' and the rest of ''[[The Legend of Drizzt]]''. Drizzt Do'Urden (a dark elf but one of the most morally upright characters in whole series) wields [[Dual Wielding|twin scimitars]], but so do some of the [[Always Chaotic Evil|other drow.]] Note however that in contrast to the typical drow, [[Defector From Decadence|Zaknafein]] used straight blades.
* Averted and played straight in ''[[The Dark Elf Trilogy]]'' and the rest of ''[[The Legend of Drizzt]]''. Drizzt Do'Urden (a dark elf but one of the most morally upright characters in whole series) wields [[Dual-Wielding|twin scimitars]], but so do some of the [[Always Chaotic Evil|other drow.]] Note however that in contrast to the typical drow, [[Defector From Decadence|Zaknafein]] used straight blades.
* In the ''[[Discworld]]'' novel ''[[Discworld (Literature)/Moving Pictures|Moving Pictures]]'', Victor uses a scimitar in the click ''Sons of the Dessert''. He's not impressed.
* In the ''[[Discworld]]'' novel ''[[Discworld (Literature)/Moving Pictures|Moving Pictures]]'', Victor uses a scimitar in the click ''Sons of the Dessert''. He's not impressed.
{{quote| '''Victor''': I thought swords had to be straight.<br />
{{quote| '''Victor''': I thought swords had to be straight.<br />
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* The Prince in the ''[[Prince of Persia]]'' games tends to favor curved blades.
* The Prince in the ''[[Prince of Persia]]'' games tends to favor curved blades.
* In ''[[Runescape]]'', scimitars are a popular weapon type, especially on free-to-play servers.
* In ''[[Runescape]]'', scimitars are a popular weapon type, especially on free-to-play servers.
* ''[[Arcanum]]'' has several kinds of scimitars and falchions as free-to-buy weapons (including those which ''shoot fireballs''). Moreover, one of them is a full-blown [[Infinity Plus One Sword]] and a ''[[The Dev Team Thinks of Everything|backup]]'' [[Sword of Plot Advancement]].
* ''[[Arcanum]]'' has several kinds of scimitars and falchions as free-to-buy weapons (including those which ''shoot fireballs''). Moreover, one of them is a full-blown [[Infinity+1 Sword]] and a ''[[The Dev Team Thinks of Everything|backup]]'' [[Sword of Plot Advancement]].


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Yup, That can't be good...
"Have you seen those warriors from Hammerfell? They have curved swords. Curved. Swords."
Random Guards, The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim

Whenever an army of evil creatures like Orcs and such is introduced, be sure that most of the time they will be armed with scimitars, falchions, sabers and other curved weapons. Alternatively, a particular evil character or warrior is armed with such a weapon to underline his bad guy status. Seen more often if the "good guys" or the "good army" wields straight swords.

Probably born from the European view of the Crusades, where the righteous Christians were fighting the scimitar-wielding Arabs and Turks (even though Arabs preferred the spear and straight sword as weapons). Another possible influence could be cutlass-wielding pirates.

In Chinese wuxia novels and movies, straight double edged swords (jian, usually the taiji type which is thinner) are also preferred over large single edged swords ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dao_

Of course, this trope has one primary exception, if the hero comes from a place where scimitars and sabers are used as a "default", though in these case it's more like because everyone use them. See also Weapon of Choice and Good Weapon Evil Weapon. Expect to see it often in Qurac-like settings. Compare and Contrast Katanas Are Just Better, which is the Eastern equivalent to this trope.


Examples of Sinister Scimitar include:


Anime and Manga


Literature


Film


Tabletop Games


Video Games


Web Comics

  • In Order of the Stick we have Zz'dtri who, being a clone of Drizzt, wields two scimitars and the Death Knight assaulting Azure City wields one and also the Beetle-men bandits. Crystal's sword/dagger may count too.
  • In Looking for Group the enemy soldiers attacking Kethenecia in the past are armed with scimitars.


Western Animation

  • In Aladdin the guards chasing the titular hero wield scimitars.
  • Hassan, the huge arab guard who appears in some shorts and wields a massive scimitar.

 "Hassan CHOP!!!"

  • The wicked Jack-In-the-Box in Fantasia2000 wields a scimitar against the Tin Soldier. Ironically, because of the curved blade itself he ends up slipping and falling into a hot stove head-first.


Aversions

Anime and Manga

  • Bleach has Shunsui Kyoraku's Shikai, which takes the form of two large scimitars.
    • Also in the filler episode 287, which has a Arabian Nights Days setting features scimitar-looking Zanpakuto for everyone.
  • Agon from Hunter X Hunter. Though he's more neutral than fully evil/good.
  • In Naruto, Izumo and Kotetsu both used curved blades.
  • One of the other forms of Ten Commandments is MillionSun which is definetively positive.
  • in Inuyasha the Tessaiga blade is fang-shaped, hence looking a bit like a massive scimitar.
  • In Sailor Moon, Sailor Uranus uses the Space Sword, which is a curved sword that looks a lot like a jeweled scimitar. In this case, the fact that she has it is proof of her pure heart, since it's one of the three talismans and came out of her pure heart crystal.


Literature

 Victor: I thought swords had to be straight.

Mrs Cosmopolite: Perhaps they start out straight and get bendy with use. A lot of things do.


Film

  • Thong in Cave Dwellers.
  • Gai Xing from Red Cliff is seen using a dadao in battle, and is one of the good guys. Most of the other characters (both good and bad) use straight swords and pole weapons instead.


Tabletop Games

  • Mielikki, the good-aligned goddess of the woods in the Dungeons&Dragons' Forgotten Realms setting, uses a pair of scimitars. It's also the favoured weapon of her followers.


Video Games

  • Kaleh, Kalenz and Li'Sarr from Battle for Wesnoth, along with the good-aligned elves and orcs.
  • Both Altaïr and Ezio from Assassin's Creed have used curved blades. Also justified in the first game, which is taking place in the Holy Land after all.
  • Sengoku Basara: Some of Keiji Maeda's weapons are scimitaresque, but he's the nicest guy around.
  • One of the first characters you play as in Eternal Darkness is an almost stereotypical Persian warrior, and naturally enough, wields a scimitar, and later a huge Ram Dao.
  • The Prince in the Prince of Persia games tends to favor curved blades.
  • In Runescape, scimitars are a popular weapon type, especially on free-to-play servers.
  • Arcanum has several kinds of scimitars and falchions as free-to-buy weapons (including those which shoot fireballs). Moreover, one of them is a full-blown Infinity+1 Sword and a backup Sword of Plot Advancement.
  1. Note that even if some scimitars had a double edge they were usually used as sabers for slashing.