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TV Tropes is allegedly a site where people look at the common tropes found in the media. What TV Tropes does not do is actually analyze anything and it has mostly become a toxic community of constant fanboy wanking.

Fuck No TVTropes is a Tumblr blog that, as the name explained, is opposed to TV Tropes, mainly all the horrible that has been spawned from it. While the blog author, Bogleech and Mark (who was the blog's moderator, does make some submissions of their own, it was mostly a community submission blog of things others find horrible about TV Tropes.

All The Tropes had also caught their attention and has been criticized whenever applicable as well.

As of 2019, though, Fuck No TVTropes is long-abandoned; the most recent post is from March 2016. Surprisingly, it survived the kindergartenization of Tumblr in December 2018.

Fuck No TVTropes provides examples of the following tropes:

• Abusive Parents: What people thought of his/her parents whenever FNTVT jokingly answers them of how he became a casual anime watcher.

"I was so much of a weeaboo back in high school that my parents sent me to a camp run by Marcus Bachmann to make me normal. Now I'm more casual."

• Accentuate the Negative: There are a few more good qualities to TV Tropes than the blog author lets on, but as the blog is not about the things the site does right, those rare gems of good are nearly always ignored.
• Aesop Amnesia: In TV Tropes, Inspector Spacetime made it to their High Octane Nightmare Fuel page. FNTVT replied that the tropers didn't learn their lesson from the Ugly Barnacle incident.
• All Your Base Are Belong to Us: FNTVT reported that TV Tropes removed a clause in their rules which was basically this trope.
• Amateur Sleuth: The guy who made this tumblr blog, he exposes a bit of TV Tropes' dark underbelly for all to see.
• Badass Decay: When FNTVT explained that YMMV has been replaced with "Love It or Hate It", despite still having the YMMV pages.
• Better Than New: When TV Tropes came under new owners, they did some tweaks and design changes to make the layout be better. This gotten Bogleech to give them his rare praises.

"Congrats, new mods. You're much more competent at website layout than the old mods."

• Brain Bleach: ventingmyrage gone to fetish fuel wiki side of Tv Tropes, he plead for death.

RIP.

• • The Rugrats page of Tv Tropes has a ridiculous yet detailed entry about Phil and Lil's "Incest Subtext."

"I am...disgusted."

• • Bogleech also ventured to TV Tropes's My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Fetish Fuel pages.

"Five seconds, I've been on the page for five seconds. And do you know what I see? Without even having to scroll down?THE ABYSS. THE ABYSS IS STARING AT ME."

• • TV Tropes' Incest Subtext and Incest Yay Shipping pages have Real Life sections.
    • According to TV Tropes, "Obviously" Violet and Klaus working together to survive their evil uncle's traps counts as "incest subtext".
    • An actual Tv Tropes pedo telling another younger Troper, that its "perfectly valid reason to be upset about (Being groped by some stranger)."
• Brought Down to Normal: Bogleech, the blog's author, mentioned that he'll be retiring, so he can write his novel.
• Brutal Honesty: The blog author does not sugarcoat anything. If the troping world does something wrong/horrible, it will be called on it in no uncertain terms.
• Cliché: An Anonymous submitter asked the author why Bogleech why he hates RWBY, he replied,

"I find it cliché and i really dislike every character in the show except Pyrrha."

• Criticizes Everyone Equally: They do not play favorites. Whenever a troping website does something horrible, it will be called out. This one included.
• Damned By Faint Praise: The blog author, after being asked if there's anything he likes about TV Tropes, has this to say.

I suppose a good aspect would be how they kept all the subpages on the top of the pages. That way you won’t have to go through the entire article looking for a link to their character page.

• Darker and Edgier: The Author quips, "Now, that's what I call Edgy", when he found out that about a Tv Troper's opinion about Christian LGBTS in the "A Single Unified LGBT Conversation" thread.
• Deadpan Snarker: Many of the conversations and responses that were made by the author (bogleech), Mark, and the submitters are very deadpan snarky, as evidence by these links here.
  • The most prime example in the blog was his answer of how he became a "casual anime fan."
• Death by Volcano: Averted by the author's Jurassic World comment, "Zara had the most undigified death I have ever seen in a non-volcano-related movie..."
• Deviantart Gazes Back: Clusterkind kindly asked bogleech to make a cousin to "Fuck No TV Tropes" about DeviantArt's darkness. Bogleech, the author, refused, even stating that he'll die after three posts and that many have tried.

"...If you stare into the abyss of DeviantART, it stares back."

• Did Not Do the Research: Concerning Hyperdimension Neptunia, when the author found out that the game series was just a moe anthropomorphism of game consoles having adventures. Also, due to him never trusting any game with that art style and plus, the need to look things up before replying.
  • During Crackedgate - A "scandal" were Tropers felt betrayed by Cracked for just joking about them. - TV Tropers accused the Cracked writers of not doing research, before making their article.
  • An Anonymous submitter found out that TV Tropes mostly gets their ideas of Japanese gender norms and politics straight out of manga and anime, not from dramas, films, or worst, not even checking very informative sources.
• Double Standard: TV Trope's Minority Report tear jerker page, talked about the opening sequence were the married guy concludes that his wife was having an affair, reads "...The audience gets a good idea why the husband is this close to killing someone..." And the wife's horrified look, not just about almost getting killed but also realizing that her husband is gone forever.

MOD Note: I felt really sorry for Leatherface when he chainsawed off those college students heads, too. such pain. Such angst.

• • • On the TV Trope Puella Magi Madoka Magica's YMMV page, listed both Mami and Homura as memetic sex goddesses when actuality the girls are just young to mid age teenagers, FNTVT stated that these characters are designed for audiences to feel sorry for them. Instead...

"But all tropers care about are dem tits and dat hair."

• • TV Tropes just compared Assigned Male, a seemingly harmless webcomic, to Billy the Heretic, is questionable, considering that the lead is about a transgender girl.
    • Averted, since most of the sexist paragraphs had been already edited out.
  • TV Tropes is really adamant that its' not important and to discuss the unknown yet talented men in the animation industry who never got a chance to make their own shows, despite that it will get rid of the gender related problems.
  • Cinderella's only values dissonance was the "Leave the sewing to the women." song line. FNTVT stated that they could've dug around and added more better examples.

"You could use a Fisher-Price shovel to find something inherently bad about the Cinderella narrative."

• • An anonymous poster found TV Tropes' "A single unified LGBTQ conversation" were a troper claimed that "LGBT people who are Christians are like black people joining the Ku Klux Klan tbh."
  • The anime's Values Dissonance page was written by TV Tropers that know nil about Japanese culture (outside of anime/manga) and are writing from a Western standpoint.

"Cake Farts" exists. That doesn't mean farting and shitting on cakes isn't still taboo!"

• • Mainly by Fighteer, who is quick to ban the Tropers say they have suicidal and/or self-harm problems, instead of using the hammer on actual pedophiles that are lurking in TV Tropes itself.
• Et Tu, Brute?: When thehorribleghost asked what was "Crackedgate? The author explained that Cracked made an article which made fun of the TV Tropers, the latter felt that the site betrayed them.
• Even TV Tropes Has Standards: When the Other Tropes wiki took down their pages on Stormfront, Metapedia, Fundies Say The Darndest Things etc., bogleech hopes that their reasons for dotng this isn't for "Oh, these pages are too negative and we need to embrace all types of people, including Neo Nazis and Westbroro Baptist Church."
• Everything's Better with Dinosaurs: An Anonymous submitter questions the what's does "pro-dinosaur" mean?

"It means that my list of priorities goes like this: 1. Dinosaurs 2. Pokémon 3. RuPaul's Drag Race 4. Shitty Fan Fiction 5. My personal appearance 6. Everything else."

• Fan Dumb: The author stated that when a fanbase becomes a fandom it automatically makes it as this trope.
  • He corrected an Anonymous who was noticing the ton of MLP hate found in FNTVT.

"It's not MLP hate, it's Brony hate. The culture of Brony-ism isn't exactly healthy."

• Feminists: Both Bogleech, the creator/author, and the blog's only mod, Mark, stated that they consider themselves as such.
• Fetish Fuel: Too many examples involving the wonderful residents of TV Tropes' fetishes:
  • Their Jurassic World YMMV page stated that the fate of Zara, the babysitter, will be fetish fuel/vore fetish for some.
  • Having Trixie as one of the examples for the "Fetish Fuel Station Attendant", despite the character in question being ten years old.
  • Getting turned on by Mami's boobs and Horuma's long hair above example.
  • Thomas the Tank Engine's character pages, which called the trains as Karma Houdinis, even somehow adding that they're "Too Kinky to Torture."
  • A troper that had gone to see Tangled because of said troper's foot fetish and ends up loving the movie for "other reasons." This was on TV Trope's actual review.
  • Both the author and the Mod wonders what was it with TV Tropes' fixation on underage characters?

"Someone could make the argument, "Oh, they're all anime fifteen, which is like real life twenty."

• • Bogleech, the author, and an Anon talking about TV Tropes' unhealthy attention on pedophilia, what's downright creepy was they're living out their urges via fictional characters.
• Fun T-Shirt: The TV Tropes t-shirt, according to both the author and the anonymous submitter, it goes well with a fedora, a trenchcoat, and thirty billion buttons of anime and MLP characters, straight from the Euphiora Collection.

"Order now and we'll throw in a free Guy Fawkes mask and a complementary finger-less gloves."

• Future Imperfect: Bogleech hopes that in a thousand years into the future, archaeologists won't view Twilight Sparkle and Rainbow Dash as some sort of Ancient Mesopotamian Gods, because of the abundance of TV Tropes' articles on MLP's different fanfiction genres.
• Incest: A submitter hated TV Tropes' male incest fascination reached Hatoful Boyfriend, so he quit. Bogleech, the author, even stated that they don't even deserved to play the best dating sim on earth.
  • Averted. When the TV Tropers criticize one of their own for standing by the Luke x Leia ship and the speculation that the Skywalker twins are Rey's parents.
  • The Fire Emblem 8 page has a "incest subtext" involving Eirika and Ephraim, which is strange since there's Fire Emblem: Awakening that does have incest options.
  • The above Phil and Lil example.
  • TV Trope's obsession with Wizards of Waverly Place, mainly Justin and Alex's supposedly incestuous moment.
  • normadypilots noticing TV Tropes' mild interest with incest with their Finding Nemo's main page and YMMV.
• Irony: The Cracked "upsetting" tropers, was dubbed "Crackedgate" by FNTVT.
• Kill It with Fire: the author's reaction to TV Tropes categorizing Edwin Epps raping his slave, Patsey, in 12 Years a Slave as "Villainous Crush," instead of Rape Is a Special Kind of Evil.
  • When asked if in charge would he, Bogleech, fire Fighteer, he'd answered

"I'd probably go all Tabula Rasa on it and fire everyone. I have never heard one good story about any mod on TV Tropes, period."

• La Résistance: The author's reaction when the blog got its own TV Tropes' page, surviving more than some months and Fast Eddie cleaned post up a bit, leaving the blog's criticism intact.

"Viva la revolución."

• Lolicon: A submitter made a mistake, assuming that TV Tropes gotten rid of the lolicon pages, until he saw one of the examples for the "Lovable Sex Maniac" was a pedophile character. Bogleech answered that's its just the loli pages' removal was only the surface area, though to actually purge all things loli from TV Tropes, one needs to purge the pedophile tropers.

"You can take the Lolicon pages out but you won't be able to take out the Lolicon lovers."

• Magical Girls: Th author responded to expendable-fan quipped that everything that TV Tropers say about "Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha" was disgusting.

"Well, when an anime company creates a cutesy magical girl anime and targets it toward adult men, bad things are bound to happen."

• Nothing Is Scarier: The reason why there's no "FuckNoDeviantart", it's because to this blog's author that the endevour isn't worth it...Because that site's abyss stares right back.
• Nostalgia Filter: When asked who would be insane to put Duke Nukem in the Fair for Its Day examples, Bogleech answered its tropers who are blinded by the nostalgia filter.
• Obstructive Mods: TV Tropes has many examples of Fighteer and other mods abusing their mod powers, like bullying and threatening to ban a guy with legitimate questions and banning another for just making a creator page for his favorite actress.
  • Averted, with Katrika a former forum mod of TV Tropes.
  • Also averted with Vigilantly Taxonomish, , who was a mod and the last things he did was doing his job.
  • MOD (aka Mod Mark) of Fuck No TV Tropes, also averts the obstructive mod trope.
• One True Pairing: An Anonymous user took a glance at the Dethroning Moment of Suck pages, it consists mostly about crying about their "One True Pairings" not happening, the DMoS is suppose to list the worst moments, the author stated that these tropers should seriously rent a crying rooms in a Japanese hotel.
• Orphaned Series: The blog hasn't updated since 2015 or 2016.
• Otaku/Occidental Otaku: According to bogleech, the author, it doesn't take long for one to find Otaku/Occidental Otaku in the Other Tropes wiki.
• Peace Conference: The FNTVT blog reported on how both All The Tropes and TV Tropes negotiates to resolve the many issues that they have with each other, like:
  • The legal issues regarding copyright.
  • The peace conference was a success.
• Pet the Dog: Whenever "Fuck No TvTropes" finds something positive about the troping sites and some non-troping related examples.
  • An Anonymous submitter asked, if there's any alternatives to TV Tropes, The author of the FNTVT blog recommended All The Tropes.
  • The author acknowledges when TVT realizes that underage characters ending up in the "Memetic Sex God" and that they have to do huge cleanups.

MOD Note: Shimaspawn's doing God's work right now.

• • The "Damned By Faint Praise" examples.
  • The real reason why "Fuck No TV Tropes" blog exists, it's for "People who do like TV Tropes and feel like there's something that needs to be fixed or for people who have been hurt by the community..."
  • Bogleech reminds those that have issues with TV Tropes to just leave criticism at Fighteer's YouTube videos, not Death threats. Also, Stay away from his son.
• Reasonable Authority Figures: The new owners of TV Tropes, Drew and Chris, and on All The Tropes' side, Gethn7.
• Rivals Mine: A follower of the blog thank FNTVT for all the work they're doing, though the fact remains that those with different viewpoints united under the banner that "TV Tropes is crapp-ily run and they all hated Fast Eddie."
• Screw the Rules, I Make Them: One of the reasons why Fast Eddie won't have a quote button.

"Quote buttons suck, I don't like them..."

• Sealed Evil in a Can: A follower stated his/her reasons for not speaking in the TV Trope forums, even wondering if most of the bad stuff is only contained to the forums.

FNTVT answered, "Most of the bad comes from the forums, but it leeks onto the trope pages themselves."

• Self-Insert Fic: Bogleech's answer when an Anonymous stated that the misanthropic and moronic power fantasies of teenagers will always be with us, with the added fact that the Library of Alexandria is gone and the Canterbury Tales won't be completed.

"Think of it this way: Now that the Library of Alexandria is gone, we don't have to read Sappho's self-insert Greek Mythology shipping fan fics.

• Shipping Goggles: TV Tropes' YMMV on Jessie declared that Jessie x Angela was a real canon ship.
• Start My Own: The author explained to a confused xelestial what's the difference between "All The Tropes" and Tv Tropes. He explained what the Tropes fork was.

"...The makers of ATT left TVTropes on their Internet Mayflower and started a new colony of tropes."

• "Stop Having Fun!" Guys: Some tropers left TV Tropes for this very reason. Some examples:
  • Katrika's reasons for leaving was this trope and being placed in to managed one of the most toxic subforums in the site.
  • An Anonymous Troper's just had one encounter with Fighteer was just enough to convinced him to pack his bags and leave.
• That Wiki Is Dead: Bogleech's response to an Anonymous submitter who asked, when will he be able to no longer criticize the Other Tropes wiki.

"When TV Tropes is literally dead."

• Torches and Pitchforks: The same submitter that show FNTVT that awful Assassin's Creed: Syndicate edit earlier asked what was Kramer vs. KramerGate? Bogleech answered it's his go-to way to talk about the Gamer thing without mentioning it, because it's like Bloody Mary.
• Trolling: The author was musing that TV Tropers might be trolling whenever they keep track of anime and games that are like Hyperdimension Neptunia or are using it as a joke just to say good things about it.
• Rape Is a Special Kind of Evil: A Troper reported that a page of the Tropes Pantheon was inappropriate because the gods are dicking a Mary Sue. FNTVT was shocked that this page went as long as it did.
• Race Lift: lesbianmichelmishina and FNTVT noticed that some of the examples, like Sailor Pluto and Matt, classified as Scary Black Man, when those characters don't fit the trope in question.
• Unfortunate Implications: Some TV Tropes examples are:
  • The Straight Gay's examples, makes the page very sexist and appears that the only proper way to be gay is to be lumbersexual.
  • Another was when a Troper placed George the Moose, a character that has dyslexia, as one of the examples for the "Moose Are Idiots."

MOD Note: I'm very bothered about how they're labeling him as an idiot because of a disability. I'm also bothered about how they have a whole trope dedicated to how people view moose..."

• • The Sugar Wiki has a page for the American Civil War's funny moments.

MOD Note: No it [The Civil War] does not [Need a funny moments page]...But the war itself was, as you might be able to guess, a war.

• • This entry for the Troper Tale's "Stalker with a Crush."
• Unperson: Very much so. TVTropes has permanently banned all mention of the "Fuck No TvTropes" blog after it was determined that they were being mean nasty doodoo heads and "we can't take the slightest little negativity and FAST EDDIE IS GOD", etc. Smfh.
  • Even banning those that ever so much utters anything about this blog.
• What Do You Mean It's Not Heinous?: TV Tropers' crying about ships that are not happening example above.
  • The TV Trope page for Toontown Online's YMMV page has a tear jerker section were the cancellation was compared to the Hiroshima Bomb dropping.
  • One of the forum Tropes of the Other Tropes wiki was exclaiming that, "Bronies have it so fucking hard!"...
• What Do You Mean It's Not for Kids?: What FNTVT blog revealed was that there's too many TV Tropes examples that are not safe for kids in general:
  • He's wondering just how many of Thomas the Tank Engine fanfiction recs boarder on NSFW.
  • Pawl Patrol's ship tease moment involving Chase and Skye

"Why do these people always have to look so deeply into my little niece's favorite Nick Jr. shows?"

• • Another example was the Bubble Guppies' YMMV page, which talks about romance in a young kids' show, that has no romance at all.
  • The Pinocchio's Does This Remind You of Anything? page, and the TV Troper thinking too deeply that a kid's movie was referencing erections.
  • When FNTVT, mod, and the submitters' reactions to the "incest subtexts", especially to some of the above examples.
  • The Secret Life of a Mermaid has the tropers describing what seductive poses the 12-ish year old gamers should have.
• Wimpification: The "Fuck No Tv Tropes" author, mod, and its submitters views most of the TV Tropes' residents, including the mods, as those that cannot take criticism, questioning the site's directions or the mods' choices, or as in the case with Cracked, cannot jokes, which kinda explains why many Tv Tropes pages (like this tumblr blog), Encyclopedia Dramatica, 4chan, and many pages were eventually purge.
  • It's not just pages, even Tropers were banned for these very reasons, like some of the examples from above.