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Since the cast of ''[[Axis Powers Hetalia (Manga)|Axis Powers Hetalia]]'' are nations and the series itself is mostly light comedy, this is to be expected. A few strips hint at much darker humor or hidden angst; fandom often takes the idea of history-as-canon and carries it to the logical conclusion. This makes for potentially VERY [[Dark Fic|dark]] characterizations for most countries, especially those with imperialist or colonialist eras.
Since the cast of ''[[Axis Powers Hetalia (Manga)|Axis Powers Hetalia]]'' are nations and the series itself is mostly light comedy, this is to be expected. A few strips hint at much darker humor or hidden angst; fandom often takes the idea of history-as-canon and carries it to the logical conclusion. This makes for potentially VERY [[Dark Fic|dark]] characterizations for most countries, especially those with imperialist or colonialist eras.


* This is especially true for England. While normally depicted as a [[Tsundere]] who's more bark than bite, he's shown in canon as having been quite a prick in his conquering days when he rode roughshod over Spain, and even now he has a tendency to play [[The Mean Brit]], usually to America and France; but it's still [[Sarcasm Mode|debatable]] if, based on canon, he'd ever be as much of a [[Darker and Edgier|domineering,]] [[Yandere|creepily possessive]] [[Manipulative Bastard|bastard]] as some people like to portray him. This unfortunately overlaps with his status as a victim of [[Die for Our Ship]], especially for [[Fan Preferred Couple|America/Russia shippers]]. There's also debate on whether England still thinks of America [[Big Brother Instinct|as a brother or someone he needs to look out for]] and [["Well Done, Son" Guy|just can't admit it]], or has grudgingly come to think of him [[Worthy Opponent|as an equal]] [[Vitriolic Best Buds|or even a friend]] and [[I Shall Taunt You|just can't admit it]], or has [[Promoted to Love Interest|fallen in love with]] [[She Is All Grown Up|him]] and [[He Is Not My Boyfriend|just can't admit it]] - though everyone agrees on at least [[Cannot Spit It Out|one trait]].
* This is especially true for England. While normally depicted as a [[Tsundere]] who's more bark than bite, he's shown in canon as having been quite a prick in his conquering days when he rode roughshod over Spain, and even now he has a tendency to play [[The Mean Brit]], usually to America and France; but it's still [[Sarcasm Mode|debatable]] if, based on canon, he'd ever be as much of a [[Darker and Edgier|domineering,]] [[Yandere|creepily possessive]] [[Manipulative Bastard|bastard]] as some people like to portray him. This unfortunately overlaps with his status as a victim of [[Die for Our Ship]], especially for [[Fan-Preferred Couple|America/Russia shippers]]. There's also debate on whether England still thinks of America [[Big Brother Instinct|as a brother or someone he needs to look out for]] and [["Well Done, Son" Guy|just can't admit it]], or has grudgingly come to think of him [[Worthy Opponent|as an equal]] [[Vitriolic Best Buds|or even a friend]] and [[I Shall Taunt You|just can't admit it]], or has [[Promoted to Love Interest|fallen in love with]] [[She Is All Grown Up|him]] and [[He Is Not My Boyfriend|just can't admit it]] - though everyone agrees on at least [[Cannot Spit It Out|one trait]].
* There's at least one fanfic in which N.Italy is portrayed as [[Stepford Smiler|a person who pretends to be always happy (and dumb) but who has inner angst for being considered dumb by the other countries and by the possibility that Germany doesn't love him]]. Who even tried to commit suicide. It's probably because Italy's [[The Ditz|canon personality]] doesn't mesh well with drama/angst which [[True Art Is Angsty|many people favor]].
* There's at least one fanfic in which N.Italy is portrayed as [[Stepford Smiler|a person who pretends to be always happy (and dumb) but who has inner angst for being considered dumb by the other countries and by the possibility that Germany doesn't love him]]. Who even tried to commit suicide. It's probably because Italy's [[The Ditz|canon personality]] doesn't mesh well with drama/angst which [[True Art Is Angsty|many people favor]].
* There are two general lines of interpretation for Canada in the fandom: "[[Moe]]" Canada that emphasizes his sweet, timid, and unassertive demeanor (sometimes to [[The Woobie|Woobie]] levels); and "manly" Canada, mostly by people who [[Misplaced Nationalism|don't like the way he's portrayed in canon]], that plays up his assumed passive-aggressive tendencies (sometimes to the point of making him an unabashed [[Deadpan Snarker]]) and gives him an overall [[Darker and Edgier]] characterization. This is sometimes [[Flanderization|flanderized]] up to the point where he's an [[Ax Crazy]] psycho who goes around [[Rape As Drama|raping everybody]].
* There are two general lines of interpretation for Canada in the fandom: "[[Moe]]" Canada that emphasizes his sweet, timid, and unassertive demeanor (sometimes to [[The Woobie|Woobie]] levels); and "manly" Canada, mostly by people who [[Misplaced Nationalism|don't like the way he's portrayed in canon]], that plays up his assumed passive-aggressive tendencies (sometimes to the point of making him an unabashed [[Deadpan Snarker]]) and gives him an overall [[Darker and Edgier]] characterization. This is sometimes [[Flanderization|flanderized]] up to the point where he's an [[Ax Crazy]] psycho who goes around [[Rape As Drama|raping everybody]].
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** There's also the characterization of him as a [[Stepford Smiler]] who puts on a [[Jerkass Facade]] to hide his loneliness and fears about disappearing/being forgotten in dramatic works.
** There's also the characterization of him as a [[Stepford Smiler]] who puts on a [[Jerkass Facade]] to hide his loneliness and fears about disappearing/being forgotten in dramatic works.
* Is Denmark a [[Boisterous Bruiser|boisterous but good-hearted guy]], a [[Lovable Sex Maniac]] who [[Skinship Grope|can't keep his hands off anybody]], a [[Jerkass]], or a [[An Axe to Grind|literally]] [[Ax Crazy]] [[Yandere]] who makes life hell for Sweden and/or Norway? The first interpretation seems to have become the most popular one (sometimes mixed up with the second), but the others are still kicking around.
* Is Denmark a [[Boisterous Bruiser|boisterous but good-hearted guy]], a [[Lovable Sex Maniac]] who [[Skinship Grope|can't keep his hands off anybody]], a [[Jerkass]], or a [[An Axe to Grind|literally]] [[Ax Crazy]] [[Yandere]] who makes life hell for Sweden and/or Norway? The first interpretation seems to have become the most popular one (sometimes mixed up with the second), but the others are still kicking around.
* Let's not forget Norway! Are his feelings for Iceland [[Big Brother Instinct|purely]] [[Knight Templar Big Brother|brotherly]] or [[Brother-Sister Incest|beyond that]]? Does he hate Denmark after the end of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway#Kalmar_Union.2C_union_with_Denmark the Kalmar Union], which [[Fanon]] seems to see as them being "married"? Is he a [[Tsundere]] towards Denmark (and just ''how'' much of a [[Tsundere]] is he?), or is he a potential [[Yandere]] who covers his obsession with his [[Deadpan Snarker]] tendencies? And what does he think of Sweden after ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway#Union_with_Sweden_.2819th_century.29 their]'' [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway#Union_with_Sweden_.2819th_century.29 union] in the 19th century?
* Let's not forget Norway! Are his feelings for Iceland [[Big Brother Instinct|purely]] [[Knight Templar Big Brother|brotherly]] or [[Brother-Sister Incest|beyond that]]? Does he hate Denmark after the end of [[wikipedia:Norway#Kalmar Union.2C union with Denmark|the Kalmar Union]], which [[Fanon]] seems to see as them being "married"? Is he a [[Tsundere]] towards Denmark (and just ''how'' much of a [[Tsundere]] is he?), or is he a potential [[Yandere]] who covers his obsession with his [[Deadpan Snarker]] tendencies? And what does he think of Sweden after ''[[wikipedia:Norway#Union with Sweden .2819th century.29|their]]'' [[wikipedia:Norway#Union with Sweden .2819th century.29|union]] in the 19th century?
* W-wait, we've gotten this far without even mentioning ''[[Nazi Germany|Germany]]''? Or is that just way too [[Captain Obvious|obvious]]?
* W-wait, we've gotten this far without even mentioning ''[[Nazi Germany|Germany]]''? Or is that just way too [[Captain Obvious|obvious]]?
** [[Punch Clock Villain]] [[Woobie]] who has to follow monstrous orders from [[Adolf Hitler|his WWII boss]] [[My Country Right or Wrong|no matter what he thinks]]? [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]] who [[Freak Out|either snapped or will snap]] at some point and follows said orders willingly [[Despair Event Horizon|because he's powerless]], to the point he'd even ''rape'' Italy if he's ordered to? And let's not forget all the speculations about him {{spoiler|''really'' being a grown-up yet amnesiac [[Holy Roman Empire]]}} or not...
** [[Punch Clock Villain]] [[Woobie]] who has to follow monstrous orders from [[Adolf Hitler|his WWII boss]] [[My Country, Right or Wrong|no matter what he thinks]]? [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]] who [[Freak-Out|either snapped or will snap]] at some point and follows said orders willingly [[Despair Event Horizon|because he's powerless]], to the point he'd even ''rape'' Italy if he's ordered to? And let's not forget all the speculations about him {{spoiler|''really'' being a grown-up yet amnesiac [[Holy Roman Empire]]}} or not...
* There's the recent trend of making Spain a [[Yandere]] or [[Cute and Psycho]], due to the ''extremely'' complex history that the country has gone through. Apparently, no one can be ''that'' much of a [[Nice Guy]] in [[Real Life]]...
* There's the recent trend of making Spain a [[Yandere]] or [[Cute and Psycho]], due to the ''extremely'' complex history that the country has gone through. Apparently, no one can be ''that'' much of a [[Nice Guy]] in [[Real Life]]...
** [[Word of God|Himaruya]] has supposedly confirmed that Spain's a [[Yandere]], but most fans disregard this since it's never been shown in canon.
** [[Word of God|Himaruya]] has supposedly confirmed that Spain's a [[Yandere]], but most fans disregard this since it's never been shown in canon.
*** No, Himaruya hasn't actually confirmed that Spain is a yandere. He did use to have some notes on his site about how Spain was two-faced and his treatment of his other colonies was the flip side of his treatment of Romano, but these notes are extremely old and were taken down a long time ago so they're probably not accurate right now, and while Spain ''did'' seem to have a "dark" moment during the 2011 April Fools event, it was mainly [[Played for Laughs]] and no further mention was made of it.
*** No, Himaruya hasn't actually confirmed that Spain is a yandere. He did use to have some notes on his site about how Spain was two-faced and his treatment of his other colonies was the flip side of his treatment of Romano, but these notes are extremely old and were taken down a long time ago so they're probably not accurate right now, and while Spain ''did'' seem to have a "dark" moment during the 2011 April Fools event, it was mainly [[Played for Laughs]] and no further mention was made of it.
* Belarus has two main alternate interpretations, both very different. The first is more of a [[Broken Bird]] type character, emotionally unstable from [[Love Hurts|constantly being rejected by Russia]], and not [[Tsundere|willing to risk becoming attached to anybody else]] - with some [[The Snark Knight|Snark Kight]] and [[Don't You Dare Pity Me]] thrown in. The latter is a [[Complete Monster]], who [[Murder the Hypotenuse|would kill -insert character the writer ships Russia with here- ]] [[Yandere|without a second thought so that she could have him all to herself]], because [[Love Makes You Crazy]]. Expect a [[Broken Smile]] and some [[Creepy Monotone]].
* Belarus has two main alternate interpretations, both very different. The first is more of a [[Broken Bird]] type character, emotionally unstable from [[Love Hurts|constantly being rejected by Russia]], and not [[Tsundere|willing to risk becoming attached to anybody else]] - with some [[The Snark Knight|Snark Kight]] and [[Don't You Dare Pity Me!]] thrown in. The latter is a [[Complete Monster]], who [[Murder the Hypotenuse|would kill -insert character the writer ships Russia with here- ]] [[Yandere|without a second thought so that she could have him all to herself]], because [[Love Makes You Crazy]]. Expect a [[Broken Smile]] and some [[Creepy Monotone]].
* Is Japan merely [[The Stoic]] with [[Flat Character|no other noteworthy traits]], or is he [[Hidden Depths|more complex]] [[Not So Stoic|than that]]? If the latter, then does his stoic exterior [[Sugar and Ice Personality|conceal]] a [[Yamato Nadeshiko|genuinely sweet]] but [[Shrinking Violet|socially awkward]] person or [[Stepford Smiler|mask]] a [[The Sociopath|much]] [[Cute and Psycho|darker]] [[Manipulative Bastard|personality]]? You can actually predict which interpretation fans support by looking at who they ship him with: if they ship him with Greece, he'll almost always be the former, whereas if they ship him with China, he'll almost always be the latter. Other pairings for him tend to be more evenly split into these same two categories, depending on whether the fic is history-heavy or not.
* Is Japan merely [[The Stoic]] with [[Flat Character|no other noteworthy traits]], or is he [[Hidden Depths|more complex]] [[Not So Stoic|than that]]? If the latter, then does his stoic exterior [[Sugar and Ice Personality|conceal]] a [[Yamato Nadeshiko|genuinely sweet]] but [[Shrinking Violet|socially awkward]] person or [[Stepford Smiler|mask]] a [[The Sociopath|much]] [[Cute and Psycho|darker]] [[Manipulative Bastard|personality]]? You can actually predict which interpretation fans support by looking at who they ship him with: if they ship him with Greece, he'll almost always be the former, whereas if they ship him with China, he'll almost always be the latter. Other pairings for him tend to be more evenly split into these same two categories, depending on whether the fic is history-heavy or not.
** Add in the fact that [[Imperial Japan|imperial!Japan]] is often portrayed in a different light from modern!Japan, and character interpretations can get pretty complex. Was imperial!Japan a [[Well-Intentioned Extremist]] who thought that [[My Country Right or Wrong|his empire was more important than his family]] and [[My God, What Have I Done?|ended up regretting it]] and [[Character Development|becoming a better person]]; a [[Complete Monster|monster]] who [[Lack of Empathy|only cared about furthering his empire]] [[Moral Event Horizon|by any means necessary]] and is ''still'' like that even today, just [[Bitch in Sheep's Clothing|more covertly]]; a [[Jerkass Woobie]] who became [[Broken Ace|emotionally messed up]] after he was led to believe that allowing himself to [[Emotions vs. Stoicism|show emotions]] or [[Love Is a Weakness|fall in love]] would make him "weak", and nowadays still has problems with [[Cannot Spit It Out|opening up to others]] or [[What Is This Thing You Call Love?|dealing with love]]; or even a [[Super-Powered Evil Side]] that [[Split Personality Takeover|overtook the "real", kinder Japan]] during that period?
** Add in the fact that [[Imperial Japan|imperial!Japan]] is often portrayed in a different light from modern!Japan, and character interpretations can get pretty complex. Was imperial!Japan a [[Well-Intentioned Extremist]] who thought that [[My Country, Right or Wrong|his empire was more important than his family]] and [[My God, What Have I Done?|ended up regretting it]] and [[Character Development|becoming a better person]]; a [[Complete Monster|monster]] who [[Lack of Empathy|only cared about furthering his empire]] [[Moral Event Horizon|by any means necessary]] and is ''still'' like that even today, just [[Bitch in Sheep's Clothing|more covertly]]; a [[Jerkass Woobie]] who became [[Broken Ace|emotionally messed up]] after he was led to believe that allowing himself to [[Emotions vs. Stoicism|show emotions]] or [[Love Is a Weakness|fall in love]] would make him "weak", and nowadays still has problems with [[Cannot Spit It Out|opening up to others]] or [[What Is This Thing You Call Love?|dealing with love]]; or even a [[Super-Powered Evil Side]] that [[Split Personality Takeover|overtook the "real", kinder Japan]] during that period?
* Even Greece is subject to this. Is he a [[Nice Guy|sweet and patient guy]] at heart who's [[Birds of a Feather|quietly in love with Japan]] and just happens to have a huge [[Berserk Button]] in the form of Turkey (possibly coupled with [[Love Triangle|shades of]] [[Green-Eyed Monster]])? Or is he actually a sassy, smart-mouthed [[Tsundere]] deep down who shows his true colors only when with Turkey and [[Belligerent Sexual Tension|refuses to admit that he's secretly attracted to his foe]]? It tends to fall along [[Shipping]] lines, obviously, but it's almost as if he's an entirely different character on both sides. The balance between his [[The Philosopher|Philosopher]] and [[Cloudcuckoolander]] traits also fluctuates from work to work, with the former tending to be emphasized more in serious works and the latter emphasized more in humorous works.
* Even Greece is subject to this. Is he a [[Nice Guy|sweet and patient guy]] at heart who's [[Birds of a Feather|quietly in love with Japan]] and just happens to have a huge [[Berserk Button]] in the form of Turkey (possibly coupled with [[Love Triangle|shades of]] [[Green-Eyed Monster]])? Or is he actually a sassy, smart-mouthed [[Tsundere]] deep down who shows his true colors only when with Turkey and [[Belligerent Sexual Tension|refuses to admit that he's secretly attracted to his foe]]? It tends to fall along [[Shipping]] lines, obviously, but it's almost as if he's an entirely different character on both sides. The balance between his [[The Philosopher|Philosopher]] and [[Cloudcuckoolander]] traits also fluctuates from work to work, with the former tending to be emphasized more in serious works and the latter emphasized more in humorous works.
** About his rival Turkey: [[Jerk With a Heart of Gold]] who has a soft spot for Japan and actually cares for Greece deep down? [[Loveable Sex Maniac]] who hits on anyone he thinks would make a good [[Harem Seeker|harem member]]? [[Jerkass]] who gets his kicks out of provoking any kind of reaction from his longtime rival/[[Belligerent Sexual Tension|BST]] partner? [[Manipulative Bastard]] who'd rape Greece just to put him in his place and make him kowtow to him? And did he rape Hungary or not right before/after the fight that was followed by her and Prussia more or less realizing her real gender?
** About his rival Turkey: [[Jerk With a Heart of Gold]] who has a soft spot for Japan and actually cares for Greece deep down? [[Loveable Sex Maniac]] who hits on anyone he thinks would make a good [[Harem Seeker|harem member]]? [[Jerkass]] who gets his kicks out of provoking any kind of reaction from his longtime rival/[[Belligerent Sexual Tension|BST]] partner? [[Manipulative Bastard]] who'd rape Greece just to put him in his place and make him kowtow to him? And did he rape Hungary or not right before/after the fight that was followed by her and Prussia more or less realizing her real gender?
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* Let's add Korea to the list of APH characters who get [[Darker and Edgier]] characterizations in [[Dark Fic]], shall we? It's especially noticeable with him as his normal characterization is as an [[Genki Guy|unfailingly cheerful]] if [[Know-Nothing Know-It-All|somewhat]] [[Annoying Younger Sibling|overbearing]] guy with a hilariously overzealous affection for China, and the typical "serious" characterization of him essentially filters these qualities through a dark looking glass, reinterpreting his intense devotion to China as a [[Mad Love|hint]] to how his cheerful and childlike demeanor [[Stepford Smiler|conceals]] an [[Break the Cutie|emotionally disturbed]] [[Psychopathic Manchild|or stunted]] individual. There's even a semi-popular fanon theory that Korea actually represents ''both'' Koreas and suffers from [[Split Personality|multiple personality disorder]] with "North Korea" arising from his [[Enemy Within|bottled-up negative emotions]], even though it's been confirmed that South Korea and North Korea are separate characters.
* Let's add Korea to the list of APH characters who get [[Darker and Edgier]] characterizations in [[Dark Fic]], shall we? It's especially noticeable with him as his normal characterization is as an [[Genki Guy|unfailingly cheerful]] if [[Know-Nothing Know-It-All|somewhat]] [[Annoying Younger Sibling|overbearing]] guy with a hilariously overzealous affection for China, and the typical "serious" characterization of him essentially filters these qualities through a dark looking glass, reinterpreting his intense devotion to China as a [[Mad Love|hint]] to how his cheerful and childlike demeanor [[Stepford Smiler|conceals]] an [[Break the Cutie|emotionally disturbed]] [[Psychopathic Manchild|or stunted]] individual. There's even a semi-popular fanon theory that Korea actually represents ''both'' Koreas and suffers from [[Split Personality|multiple personality disorder]] with "North Korea" arising from his [[Enemy Within|bottled-up negative emotions]], even though it's been confirmed that South Korea and North Korea are separate characters.
* Then there's Poland. [[Cloudcuckoolander|Ditzy airhead]] with an affinity for wearing skirts and playing with pink ponies? Or a [[Phoenix]]-like character who always stands his ground and refuses to give up no matter who tries to beat him down? [[Take a Third Option|Or both?]] There's no rule that says he can't be a [[Plucky Girl|Plucky]] [[Determinator]] who just happens to really like wearing skirts and playing with pink ponies, after all.
* Then there's Poland. [[Cloudcuckoolander|Ditzy airhead]] with an affinity for wearing skirts and playing with pink ponies? Or a [[Phoenix]]-like character who always stands his ground and refuses to give up no matter who tries to beat him down? [[Take a Third Option|Or both?]] There's no rule that says he can't be a [[Plucky Girl|Plucky]] [[Determinator]] who just happens to really like wearing skirts and playing with pink ponies, after all.
* France can be this too. Is he a [[Lovable Sex Maniac]] that goes for [[Anything That Moves]] with no motive whatsoever, or is he a [[Broken Ace|broken man]] that lost [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_of_Arc the only person he ever loved] and is [[Obfuscating Stupidity]] (or, rather, incompetence) and perversion to [[Stepford Smiler|hide the fact that he's hurting inside?]]
* France can be this too. Is he a [[Lovable Sex Maniac]] that goes for [[Anything That Moves]] with no motive whatsoever, or is he a [[Broken Ace|broken man]] that lost [[wikipedia:Joan of Arc|the only person he ever loved]] and is [[Obfuscating Stupidity]] (or, rather, incompetence) and perversion to [[Stepford Smiler|hide the fact that he's hurting inside?]]
** France has also been depicted as every shade on the "perversion" spectrum: from [[Depraved Bisexual]] to [[Ethical Slut]], [[Casanova Wannabe]] to [[Memetic Sex God]], or [[Anything That Moves]] to [[Ladykiller in Love]].
** France has also been depicted as every shade on the "perversion" spectrum: from [[Depraved Bisexual]] to [[Ethical Slut]], [[Casanova Wannabe]] to [[Memetic Sex God]], or [[Anything That Moves]] to [[Ladykiller in Love]].
** Lately, the canon strips seem to go for making France a mix of these things, thus making a [[Casanova Wannabe]] who ''does'' hit on everyone and snarks at some, but is quite capable of showing [[Hidden Depths]] ([[The Heart|and a surprisingly good understanding of human nature]]) when the chance calls for it. When he meets with {{spoiler|Lisa, the girl who might be Joan's reincarnation}} he only flirts with her a little, but acts much more like a [[Big Brother Mentor]]; similarly, he's rather kind to the French military man who {{spoiler|recognizes him as a supernatural entity.}}
** Lately, the canon strips seem to go for making France a mix of these things, thus making a [[Casanova Wannabe]] who ''does'' hit on everyone and snarks at some, but is quite capable of showing [[Hidden Depths]] ([[The Heart|and a surprisingly good understanding of human nature]]) when the chance calls for it. When he meets with {{spoiler|Lisa, the girl who might be Joan's reincarnation}} he only flirts with her a little, but acts much more like a [[Big Brother Mentor]]; similarly, he's rather kind to the French military man who {{spoiler|recognizes him as a supernatural entity.}}

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Since the cast of Axis Powers Hetalia are nations and the series itself is mostly light comedy, this is to be expected. A few strips hint at much darker humor or hidden angst; fandom often takes the idea of history-as-canon and carries it to the logical conclusion. This makes for potentially VERY dark characterizations for most countries, especially those with imperialist or colonialist eras.