Devil May Cry/YMMV: Difference between revisions

Alas, Poor Villain, Excuse Plot, Fake Ultimate Mook, Flanderization and In Name Only are NOT YMMV tropes; moved Nightmare Fuel trope to its respectable page.
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(Alas, Poor Villain, Excuse Plot, Fake Ultimate Mook, Flanderization and In Name Only are NOT YMMV tropes; moved Nightmare Fuel trope to its respectable page.)
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* [[Alas, Poor Villain]]: Vergil. ''Twice''.
* [[Alternative Character Interpretation]]: Vergil is the ''most'' heavily debated character in the series. Is he a [[Well-Intentioned Extremist]] [[Freudian Excuse|trying to atone]] [[My Greatest Failure|for his failure to protect his mother]], or is he just a [[Complete Monster|nefarious bastard with no care in the world for the repercussions of]] [[Visionary Villain|his goal to attain the power of his father]]? Is the fact that he {{spoiler|had a son}} a glimmer of light in his life, or just another way for Vergil [[Generation Xerox|to be as similar to dear 'ol daddy as possible]]?
** Kamiya's original vision was that Vergil had been [[The Woobie|kidnapped as a child]] (when Dante lost a mother and brother to evil twenty years ago), and was never anything but a [[More Than Mind Control|good guy]] who managed to break loose to help his brother. The author of the first novel decided to ignore that, and wrote Vergil as an [[Magnificent Bastard|evil]] [[Badass]] who was around during Dante's teens. One of these Vergils was obviously much cooler than the other, and ''DMC3'' made the novel's version of the character canon.
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** The music that plays inside the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8oj_JIiq1M cathedral] of the first game is also certainly deserving of this.
** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMuu3imd3ws "Out of Darkness"] that plays in the opening scenes of ''4''.
* [[Non Sequitur Scene]]: Comes right out of nowhere? Check. Has nearly nothing to do with the plot? Check. Ridiculously way over the top? Check. Never mentioned again? Check. If [[Funny Moments (Sugar Wiki)|Dante and Agnus going Shakespeare on one another]] isn't a complete BLAM, what is?
** Phantom's reappearance towards the end of ''2''. He just randomly pops out of nowhere, despite (in his last appearance) ''melting after being impaled on a spiked pillar''. The fact that he's inexplicably [[The Voiceless|mute]] doesn't help, although the description for that particular mission hints that [[Time Travel]] may be involved.
* [[Breather Boss]]: Baal in ''4'' isn't a very hard fight, probably because he comes after a long slog through the castle collecting all the Gyro Blades. He telegraphs his attacks from a mile away, they're all easy enough to dodge, and he gives you tons of opportunities to damage him.
** He can become a pain in hard mode though. Echnida however, is this on any difficulty.
** [[Complete Monster]]: Mundus and Arkham. Arkham ''especially''. {{spoiler|While it's implied that Arkham was actually a kind man before [[Start of Darkness|his obsession with the supernatural]], the guy killed his wife ''with no remorse whatsoever'' and was probably going to do the same thing to Lady, ''his only daughter''.}} Additionally, {{spoiler|his [[Blob Monster]] of a [[One-Winged Angel]] is said to not be caused by [[Power Incontinence|his inability to control Sparda's power]], but the result of the vast evil within his heart. Wow.}}
* [[Complete Monster]]: Mundus and Arkham.
** Arkham ''especially''. {{spoiler|While it's implied that Arkham was actually a kind man before [[Start of Darkness|his obsession with the supernatural]], the guy killed his wife ''with no remorse whatsoever'' and was probably going to do the same thing to Lady, ''his only daughter''.}} Additionally, {{spoiler|his [[Blob Monster]] of a [[One-Winged Angel]] is said to not be caused by [[Power Incontinence|his inability to control Sparda's power]], but the result of the vast evil within his heart. Wow.}}
* [[Crazy Awesome]]: For Sparda's sake, Dante uses [[Car Fu|Bike Fu]] in ''3''!
* [[Demonic Spiders]]: Blitz from ''DMC4''. They're more like Demonic Beetles, really, but most players can agree they'd rather fight an actual boss than one of these. Far from the only one though.
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** Vergil and Dante are badass on different scales. Dante's the carefree badass, and Vergil's the refined badass. Either way, both suffer from [[Stupid Sexy Flanders|Stupid Sexy Sparda]].
* [[Evil Is Sexy]]: Vergil, and Trish until her [[Heel Face Turn]]. Then it becomes full-on [[Inverted Trope|Good Is Sexy]].
* [[Excuse Plot]]: Actually averted, despite the great possibility to go in this direction (as the protagonist is a fearless badass and the whole point of the game is to be as stylish as possible, both of which would move product without any need for further exposition). There's a pretty well-woven tapestry of backstory and even some supplementary material for this series.
** Plot is still not exactly a strong point of the series. The first game had few cutscenes and not much interesting dialogue and nobody can remember the story of ''2'' (or whether it even had one). ''3'' and ''4'' are just a little more decent, especially in the dialogues and character development, but don't explain a whole lot in the end (the threads [[Left Hanging]] for Nero are a sad example).
* [[Fake Ultimate Mook]]: The Mega Scarecrows in ''4'' are huge and have a crapload of health, but that's about it. They are even slower than regular Scarecrows, flinch at the slightest hit and rarely replicate - you just have to watch out for their roll attack, and their back blade which falls back two seconds after they die.
* [[Fanon]]: Nero being Vergil's son is never said explicitly in ''4''; the novel stating it and the guy from Capcom's localization having heard this somewhere are of dubious legitimacy. The game just says that he has "Sparda's blood"; which doesn't leave many possibilities, but at least two (Vergil and Sparda himself).
* [[Fan-Preferred Couple]]: There's quite a bit of art out there depicting Dante with [[Distaff Counterpart|his female counterpart]] [[Bayonetta]]. Talk about a [[Battle Couple]]...
** Dante is also paired with Morrigan from ''[[Darkstalkers]]''.
* [[Faux Symbolism]]: See "[[Rule of Symbolism]]" on the main page, for starters.
* [[Flanderization]]: Dante started out in ''1'' as a [[Disney]] [[Anti-Hero]] (a [[Knight in Sour Armor]]). He posed as a mercenary and was picky about which jobs he took, but he would only refuse if the job lacked demons of any sort, taking the mission ''regardless'' of how much he got paid as long as demons were involved. Despite the wisecracking personality he had, he knew when to serious the hell up if it meant saving the world. Dante in ''1'' was kind enough to offer mercy to Griffon and Trish despite both of them wanting him dead (and it pays off on Trish's end; she joins him). Despite the animated series happening a short time after ''1'', they basically inverted his character as he is much more money-minded than demon-minded and prone to [[Out of Character]] and hypocritical moments, such as calling Modeus "pathetic" for wanting to avenge his dead brother. His [[Perpetual Poverty|debt]] to various people we've barely heard of are played up to uncomfortable laughs, and he's suddenly grown some [[Destructive Savior]] tendencies along with it. The later games just make him a [[Jerkass]].
** A bonus picture of ''3'' has Lady holding up the handlebar of her destroyed bike, with Dante shrugging in the distance. While it's understandable that she would want to be paid back for it, like the "debt" point, it's overplayed. Her later appearances end up having to do with either money Dante owes her for her bike, or money Dante owes in general.
** Trish's [[Heel Face Turn]] in the first game was remarked on by Mundus as being "sudden" ("Failure is one thing, but taking on an odd behavior like that..."). Later games have her as extremely impulsive and moody for no reason.
** [[Characterization Marches On]]: These personality traits first surfaced in ''The Animated Series'' and subsequently stuck for ''4''.
*** Until ''4'', however, this could have been justified as Dante mellowing out over time. He makes the expected leap from [[Jerkass]] to [[Jerk with a Heart of Gold]] over the course of ''3'', which would naturally bring him up to the more [[Knight in Sour Armor]] portrayal of ''1''. As stated before, however, ''4'' more or less [[Jossed]] this.
* [[Freud Was Right]]: The ''entire theme'' of Trish (specifically, the implication was that Mundus was using her as a [[Honey Trap]] for Dante in the first game), but subverted. As said in [[Oedipus Complex]] under Dante's entry in the characters sheet, it doesn't work on Dante—he's visibly disturbed by her appearance.
* [[Game Breaker]]: ''Devil May Cry 3'''s style Quicksilver puts Dante into bullet time for rather long periods of time, though it eats up is devil gauge. However, with enough devil gauge restoring items it becomes a little broken.
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** Well to be fair to the fanbase, the games personified them first. Hi, remember Nevan?
*** [[Viewtiful Joe|Alastor]] gives his regards too.
* [[In Name Only]]: ''Many'' are saying this of Ninja Theory's reboot.
** Many believe that [http://www.siliconera.com/2011/10/31/dmc-devil-may-cry-takes-place-in-a-parallel-world-with-a-different-dante/ the recent announcement that] ''DmC'' [[Flip-Flop of God|is now suddenly]] [[Alternate Continuity]] instead of a [[Continuity Reboot]] or [[Prequel]] was done in response to these claims as damage control.
* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: Vergil in the first novel. The third game, which otherwise copied the first novel's version of the character {{spoiler|ended up with him as the [[Unwitting Pawn]] instead.}}
** Arkham {{spoiler|uses a brilliant [[Xanatos Gambit]] and acting convincing of a joker to turn [[Melee a Trois|Dante, Vergil, and Lady against one another]], effectively allowing him to open the door to Demon World and receive Sparda's power.}}
* [[Memetic Badass]]: Dante, although it's not ''entirely'' memetic.
* [[Memetic Mutation]]: [http://img205.imageshack.us/i/119767809896vn5.png/ UR A FAGET.]
** [http://img205.imageshack.us/i/119767809896vn5.png/ UR A FAGET.]
** It didn't take long for a ''DmC: Devil May Cry'' [http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/9/2010/09/f2cdd856207ea71c0ee50ac77b60ddf4/original.jpg variant]{{Dead link}} to pop up. [http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx18/CosmicHumor/notdante.jpg The fans are having] [http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/9/2010/09/d6dec222f882a2d66f97735b36d7995b/original.jpg a field day with this one.]{{Dead link}}
** Is sanity the price to pay... '''[[Ham-to-Ham Combat|FOR POWER?!]]'''
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* [[Memetic Sex God]]: ''Everyone'' wants to get into Dante's pants. EVERYONE.
* [[Most Annoying Sound]]: KULUE!!! KULUEEEEEEE!!!! Made even worse when Nero starts to have a reverse puberty similar to Dante's below when he cries after fighting Agnus.
* [[Narm Charm]]:
* [[Narm Charm]]:* The writers are ''bad'' at dramatic moments... ''DMC1'' being especially bad, and ''DMC3'' being somewhat more competent.
{{quote|'''Dante''': "I should have been the one to fill your dark soul with ''liiiiiiiiiiiight''!"}}
** For bonus points, Dante's voice cracks very unmanfully right at the end of that line, like he was suddenly struck with reverse puberty.
* [[Non Sequitur Scene]]: Comes right out of nowhere? Check. Has nearly nothing to do with the plot? Check. Ridiculously way over the top? Check. Never mentioned again? Check. If [[Funny Moments (Sugar Wiki)|Dante and Agnus going Shakespeare on one another]] isn't a complete BLAM, what is?
* [[Nightmare Fuel]]: Depending on your personal threshold, Nobodies and The Underworld in ''1''. But especially Nobodies.
** Phantom's reappearance towards the end of ''2''. He just randomly pops out of nowhere, despite (in his last appearance) ''melting after being impaled on a spiked pillar''. The fact that he's inexplicably [[The Voiceless|mute]] doesn't help, although the description for that particular mission hints that [[Time Travel]] may be involved.
** Fittingly enough, [[That One Boss|Nightmare]]. Yes, it is a large mass of gelatinous darkness with human bones stuck inside and it's slithering towards you. Have fun.
** Mundus's crumbling appearance during the final fight with him can only be described as this.
** The sequence inside the Leviathan in ''3''. Especially running away from the hungry, giant Gigapede in the intestines.
** Most of the guardians of Temen-ni-Gru, especially Beowulf.
** Phantom, for those who hate spiders.
** Griffon. His head is composed of several upper jaws around a hole.
** Trismagia and anything relating to Argosax (excluding [[One-Winged Angel|The Despair Embodied]]) in ''2''
** Bael/Dagon in ''4''.
* [[Polished Port]]: The PC version of ''Devil May Cry 4'', which not only runs very smoothly on a wide array of systems, but puts higher-end systems to the test with ''[[Idiosyncratic Difficulty Levels|Legendary Dark Knight Mode]]'', which [[Zerg Rush|fills the screen with enemies]]. Quite the breath of fresh air for PC gamers.
* [[Porting Disaster]]: The port of ''3'' from console to PC, thanks to Capcom outsourcing the porting job to another developer. Thankfully, Capcom learned their lesson after ''DMC3'' and ''[[Resident Evil 4]]'', resulting in the above.
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** The style system in ''3''. Why the hell should the player choose between the ability to [[Flash Step]] and that to guard? Between multi-aiming with guns and additional melee attacks? This is a great source of [[Fake Difficulty]] against bosses or enemies you face for the first time, and gets especially annoying in the penultimate boss, where the fact of having Vergil fighting with you ''prevents you from using any of your styles''. Thankfully, ''4'' allows you to change styles whenever you want, including mid-combo, making the system much more interesting to exploit, [[Difficult but Awesome|if tricky to master]].
* [[Seinfeld Is Unfunny]]: When it came out, reviews lauded the first game for its fast action and deep gameplay; today many players who try it find it kind of slow, clunky and limited (not to mention the infamous [[Damn You, Muscle Memory!|triangle jump]]). It has the right to be, since it basically set all the foundations of the modern Beat 'em All genre, three years before ''[[God of War (series)|God of War]]'' and Itagaki's ''[[Ninja Gaiden]]''.
* [[Self-Imposed Challenge]]
* [[Ship-to-Ship Combat]]: Oh man, is there ''ever''. Expect Dante/Trish fans to bash Lady from being too [[Tsundere|tsuntsun]] with Dante (at least in ''3''), Dante/Lady fans to be [[Squick]]ed out by the [[Freud Was Right|former]], and ''both'' to utterly derail Dante/Lucia fans mainly because Lucia was in a less popular game. There's also a vocal minority for the [[Cargo Ship]] of Dante/[[Horny Devils|Nevan]]. With the release of ''4'', Dante/Nero has seen its fair share of popularity (although it doesn't seem to cause tension with the relatively untouched [[Official Couple|Nero/Kyrie]]). And there's [[Twincest|Dante/Vergil]], perhaps the ''most'' popular pairing in [[Fanfic|Fan Fics]]... ''ever''. Then, there's the faction that believes that Dante, being an [[Action Hero]], [[Launcher of a Thousand Ships|has no canon partner]]. That's not even getting into the even palpable art of [[Crossover Ship]]ping, such as the immensely-popular [[Fan-Preferred Couple|Fan Preferred Couples]] of Dante and his [[Distaff Counterpart]] [[Bayonetta]] or Dante and [[Darkstalkers|Morrigan]]...
* [[So Cool Its Awesome]]: As a credit to the gameplay, let it be known that ''Devil May Cry'', a series of ''single player'' action games, '''''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_DWmuXQ7Qk is tournament worthy.]'''''