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Even in [[Real Life]] while humans are still one species, there were are very distinct groups with unique characteristics among them.
 
* To make the guess more wild, it's likely that earth suffered a Dark age at some point when humanity degraded to a much lower level of civilization due to some apocalypse (or a World war between bloodthirsty ancient human ancestors). Some humans escaped and traveled to planet Vegeta, [[Lost Technology|lost touch with their home civilization]] and themselves degraded to the Stone age in their attempt to adapt to the harsh conditions on the new planet. The native Tuffles too could have inflicted heavy losses against these humans, destroyed whatever tech they had and forced them into the wild where they struggled to survive for a long long time (Reminds me of what happened in Larry Niven's [[Ring WorldRingworld]]). Over time humans on earth again became technologically advanced and evolved to lose their tails and their fighting genes (Super Saiyan genes became recessive to the point where they went vestigial). For Saiyans it was just the opposite. They adapted to the wild, over time probably forgot their own history and turned into savages and evolved into fighting machines under the 10x gravity and gained the ability to transform into apes and their Super Saiyan genes became dominant, but dormant. Thus humans split into two groups, but other than certain genes evolving to becoming dominant and others becoming vestigial, they are in fact the same species.
* Also their genetics are extremely compatible to the extent that their offspring are much more capable then either pure Saiyan or pure human. Perhaps the recessive vestigial Super Mode genes in humans combine with the dominant and active Super mode genes in Saiyans and get activated as a result, giving offspring like Gohan, Goten, Trunks or Pan much stronger genes (or the Super Saiyan genes occupy more of their genetic makeup), giving them more potential. On the other hand the tail genes are weakened over time and they die out. As well as the genes responsible for personality, which explains why only pure Saiyans [[Blood Knight|possess the fighting lust]].
* DBZ genetics seem to suggest that [[Lamarck Was Right]]. Perhaps after a few generations of very powerful human fighters having their own offspring, those humans' own Super genes will be activated enough to become dominant and we could see the first Super Human transformation, which would be the icing on the cake.
 
== Ironically, the Saiyans' Zenkai ability is a defense mechanism, not an offensive feature. ==
That's how it's so inconsistent. When Vegeta first demonstrated his Zenkai ability, he went from 18k to 24k; higher than Goku's kaioken 3x boost , when he got beaten to near-death one more time by Zarbon, he went from having the tar beaten out of him to kicking his ass. After he instructed [[The Woobie|Krillin]] to nearly kill him, he was indeed stronger than form 3 Frieza but was no match for his final form.
 
While training in 100x gravity, he kept putting himself in near-death, but on namek he was only as strong as [[The Dragon|Ginyu]], who was more than 4 times weaker than first form Frieza. Goku was so worried about fighting Frieza before he healed, and then conveniently became as strong as initial final form Frieza.
 
During their fight, Perfect Cell was no match for a Super Saiyan 2 Gohan; after blowing himself up in a desperate attempt to defeat him, his power increased so drastically that he can stalemate with a Super Saiyan 2-powered Kamehameha.
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** I think this is going to be my personal canon.
 
== Zenkai is a form of inbuilt Unlock Potential in Saiyans whose real purpose is [[Required Secondary Powers|to unleash enough potential for a Super Saiyan transformation to become possible]]. And Goku got there first thanks to his Kai-o-Ken ==
Ok, this is a big one, and it needed a lot of thought, so stay with me on this. Has anyone found it odd that the Saiyan's healing abilities go to bizarre extents once the Saiyan's power level and intensity of training go beyond a certain level and then vanish? Take a look at Namek Saga. Vegeta and Gohan's powers were improving dramatically after the fight with the Ginyu force. Vegeta's power went up by about 40%-50% after the Saiyan saga and the Zarbon fight, but then it went up 10x after he recovered from the fight with the Ginyu force to over 500,000 and then at least another 4x as he was at least as strong as Frieza's third form (though it wasn't enough to fight the 4th). Gohan (apart from Guru unlocking his powers) nearly surpassed Frieza in his third form albeit briefly.
 
Now a Saiyan's power level needs to be beyond a certain threshold to properly access the Super Saiyan form (a few million or so). Take a look at Goku. After repeated healing and training his power level went to around 90,000 (w/o Kai-O-Ken). But then it went from around 90,000 to 3,000,000 (as per official Daizhenshuu Guides) after the fight against Ginyu. That a '''33 fold increase!'''. You wonder if even Guru could have achieved that. That's followed by Goku finding more and more reserve of power up to a 20x Kaioken and then he lost it and became a Super Saiyan.
 
After that it's never works like that again except once in the Cell saga where Cell seems to have used it to come close to Super Saiyan 2 (well almost, as Gohan did beat him with one hand down and his power cut in half). It didn't seem to work like that the first time when he swallowed a Senzu Bean, (though it must have done something as his 100% power was strong enough to awe Goku). It's plausible that since Cell didn't need Zenkai for reaching Super Saiyan levels it just worked on boosting his power closer to Super Saiyan 2. Now after Cell was destroyed, it seems to have stopped working on him too as in the Otherworld he was floored by Pikkon. And by this point if healing even works at all on Goku and co., its effect is negligible.
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== Cell would have accepted defeat if Goku became a Super Saiyan 2 ==
Cell expected Goku to be the strongest of the Z fighters, he even offered him the opportunity to get a senzu bean so the fight could continue. Had Goku accepted Cell's offer he eventually would have received power boost to reach Super Saiyan 2 (granted he didn't die first). Because Cell predicted Goku was the biggest threat he probably wouldn't have gotten as angry as he did with Gohan (who was a [[Large Ham|"CHILD!!!!"]]) if he surpassed him.
 
== The Hyperbolic Time Chamber/[[Ro Sa T]] is supposed to represent a black hole ==
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== Goku's massive advantage over Vegeta is because he trains much more efficiently ==
In the Buu Saga, Vegeta blames Goku for being more born talented for why he [[Can't Catch Up]], but when you think about it, Vegeta's training is rather crude and just about as brute force as it can get. In fact most of his improvement probably comes from Zenkai healing and we aren't even sure if he got to [[SSJ 2]]SSJ2 only because of Babidi or whether it simply boosted his [[SSJ 2]]SSJ2 power. In fact Vegeta only seems to indulge in brash over training for the most part, and if you know what that means, you'd wonder if he'd have improved at all if it weren't for healing genes.
* In fact that remark of Vegeta's is particularly striking because till the Cell Saga believed ''he'' was the born talented one. If anything, that probably means Vegeta did take a level in humility after all.
** An of course, as [[Dragon Ball GT|Super 17]] says, "It will only make [him] stronger!"
* This is all but proven when Vegeta clearly notices in the Cell Saga that Goku and Gohan are comfortable in their Super forms and then returns to training and doesn't attempt the same thing, though as the Buu saga proves Goku might have been wrong about how much energy transforming wastes.
** In Goku's defense, he did say he didn't have much time to practice [[SS 3]].
* This really has as much if not more to do with Goku's own trainers than Goku himself. When left to his own devices on the trip to Namek, Goku's training is virtually identical if less intense than Vegeta's; turn up the gravity, blast self, heal with beans. The difference is that Goku's doing it in a controlled environment with a more efficient healing method compared to Vegeta who was increasing his power at the time by getting his ass kicked and thrown into a pod. Beyond that, Goku has always had the benefit of older, wiser trainers who teach him useful techniques like the kao ken. Vegeta was probably left to train himself. It's also likely that Vegeta did get to [[SSJ 2]]SSJ2 on his own; he seems confident in that he could take Dabra, who was nearly as strong as perfect cell(and thus out of reach of anything short of a ssj2). While Vegeta's confidence in his abilities and the reality are often not the same thing (see his fight with Frieza, Android 18, and perfect Cell), this was said against an enemy who he was observing fighting at full strength, giving him a better estimation of their abilities.
** I'd say you need to give credit where credit is due here. Goku was still weaker than Vegeta after being trained by King Kai, Mr. Popo/Kami, Korin, Roshi, and Grandpa Gohan. It wasn't until he started training on his own that he surpassed Vegeta. Granted the Anime and Movies imply he learned [[SS 2]]SS2, dragon fist, and [[SS 3]] from Grand Kai but we really can't say that's true for certain.
* And Goku ''takes sufficient rest''. That is just as important as training hard, because the real improvement happens during the recovery phase.
 
== Chi-Chi was severely traumatized from Goku's fight with Piccolo Jr. ==
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== Piccolo is Batman ==
A bad-ass gruff character who is surprisingly good with kids.
* Plus he traveled the Earth as a kid.
** Dear lord. You're right...
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** But they never straight up fought in super saiyan form, at least not the same level. Goku always was a step up from Vegeta's Current form when he killed someone. He was SSJ When he fought Frieza, And [[SSJ 3]] when he fought Buu, and didn't even kill Buu with his own power.
* Who ever came up with that whacked up theory must be a huge Vegeta fan.
* Goku relies on his Super Saiya-jin forms a lot more because ''he's usually pitted against the [[Big Bad]]''. Threatening his own safety fighting in his base form when he could power up early on would be the DBZ equivalent of [[Never Bring a Knife Toto Aa Gun Fight]]. The only times we see him consciously avoid leveling up is when he has a specific intent - i.e. not defeating Buu so the surviving fighters on Earth could learn to shoulder the burden of Earth's protection. Besides, this theory would only really stand if Goku never trained in his base form, which is a bit of a [[Logic Bomb]] since earlier arcs showed us that attainment of higher power levels could only be done through the strengthening of the previous form, allowing the fighter to reach the breach of its potential before ascending. Hence, [[SSJ 2]]SSJ2 comes after a body becomes properly trained to [[SSJ 1]], which in turn would imply that the base form must be consistently strengthened, as well. Given the power he exemplifies in the Buu arc, it's obvious he doesn't take very well to the idea of "resting in peace."
== Cell was holding back ==
Four words. Goku And Piccolo's Cells.
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*** Simply having the cells would be irrelevant unless he was also stated to have some form of genetic memory which would allow Goku and Piccolo's feelings of affection for Gohn to matter. And if he had that then he probably wouldn't have been such a monster.
*** While normally genes don't affect memory, in Dragonball Z they obviously do, especially in Cell. Thus why Cell knows all of the techniques of those whose genetic material he is composed of. Maybe Cell is not an actual individual, but a mental mash-up of those from whom his cells were taken.
*** It's fairly obvious Cell gets personality traits from the people who's genes he has. It would explain his Blood Knight tendencies. That being said, he also got cells from Frieza and Vegeta, the first of whom hated Gohan and the second rather enjoyed punching him.
== Half saiyans EAT their tail during birth ==
Stay with me here, there is a story behind this. Gohan is only half saiyan, and unlike most other half saiyans, he has a tail. One other thing I noticed is that Gohan seems to be less of an eater than other half saiyans. So, in the womb, most half saiyans run out of nutrition and instinctively... Consume their tails. Gohan had enough to last, as he did not require as much nutrition as the others, and so he kept his tail when he was born. The reason full saiyans do not do this is because the female saiyans' body is already built to support a saiyan fetus, human females... aren't.
* Chichi would be strong enough to support Gohan in her prime, but not as much when she was pregnant with Goten (not to mention she'd be emotionally unstable with Goku's death and everything). Makes sense. But could also be that Chichi and Bulma wanted to prevent any future troubles (as they've notices how powerful saiyans could become) and just decided to cut their tails.
** Cool story, bro, But I doubt it. Remember Gokus Tail? It was torn, ripped, and cut off thrice, and only when Kami himself got it off did it stay that way. Chichi and Bulma almost definatly could not pull that off. (Hehe)
*** Gohan's never grew back once his was gone. Why would other half-Saiyan's tails?
**** It did. Remember, Piccolo yanked it off after destroying the moon when Gohan transformed during that one year of training for the Saiyans. It grew back spontaneously when Vegeta unleashed his fake moon to transform which leads to Gohan's transformation to Great Ape which helps win the battle.
** Perhaps Goten and Trunks did have a tail once, but it was removed shortly after their birth, as suggested above, and it never grew back because perhaps Bulma found out a way to prevent the tail from growing back and shared it with Chi Chi. Maybe Bulma visited Kami himself and had him do to Trunks what he did to Goku to keep his tail from growing back, and later the same was done to Goten, this time by Piccolo, who had by then fused with Kami. The reason why Gohan's tail did not get the same treatment might have to do with the fact that it was not until Goku fought Vegeta that he discovered that the Saiyans become giant monkeys during the full moon. By the time Goten and Trunks were born, Goku already knew the dangers a Saiyan with a tail could present, so nobody was worried about Goku being upset or intrigued by the suggestion of his son having his tail removed.
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== Super Saiyan Transformation is all about the tail ==
I wonder why I'm the only one who thinks this and ignores most of the psychobabble. Evidence: The tail is a huge energy battery. The tail is needed for the massively disruptive Oozaru transformation. It's very important and no traditional Saiyajin voluntarily loses it. EVERY SINGLE CANONICAL SSJ HAS BEEN MISSING A TAIL.
Think about it - Saiyan bodies store much more Ki than ordinary bodies, with the tail SPECIFICALLY being a ki sink. Missing the tail, the high amount of power in the main cast needs to go to their bodies - instead of the tail - starting the process of SSJ transformation. The legendary super saiyajin probably had SO much energy it overloaded even the tail's capacity naturally.
Makes much more sense than some mumbo jumbo about pure hearts. also matches the half-human hybrids powerups- Gohan had a tail during the important formative years, while Trunks's and Goten's were removed at birth.
* Most likely not. The original design for a super saiyan three had a tail, and it was a sign of power.
* I don't think so. When Goku was turned back into a kid in GT, He got his tail back, and he was still able to go SSJ, [[SSJ 3]], AND [[SSJ 4]]. Also the [[SSJ 4]] transformations have tails.
** First, GT's place in canon is, at best, debatable. Second, Goku had already become a Super Saiyan by that point, and had been using the form for decades. It's established that once a Saiyan makes the transformation, they can do it any nearly any time he or she wishes. And on that note, yes, female Saiyans ''could'', theoretically, make the transformation. Toriyama said that Pan would have had the ability if she had sufficient motivation, like her grandfather and father before her.
** Or, the reason they grow a tail in [[SS 4]] is because it's a battery. They generate so much energy, that they would be to powerful if they didn't have a tail in that form.
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== Saiyan Power is derived purely from HAIR ==
While I've noticed a lot of hair based comments on this page, I felt this couldn't go explicitly unsaid - that a Saiyan is powered by hair length, style, and/or color, especially the higher levels of Super Saiyan. Think about it... At the start you have Goku with his huge, spiked afro, and he's the most powerful we've seen. Then you have Vegeta who has that wild mountain of spines, and the [[Villainous WidowsWidow's Peak|widow's peak]] so large that Everest goes flaccid in it's green tinged inadequacy. After that, the next Saiyan we've seen was Nappa, whose only hair was on his tail, and Goku defeated him handily. Raditz doesn't count, he was just an [[Anticlimax Boss]] and I'll explain why below. This theory only applies to full blooded Saiyans and not half or quarter Saiyans like Gohan, Trunks, or Pan.
* Now, let us observe the various Saiyan transformations, starting with their full moon monster form. Self explanatory, an enormous ape, covered in hair that is BROWN. The Super Saiyan one even had the extra hair to form the Super Saiyan spiked hair of doom. After, we discuss the Super Saiyan transformation itself. In the first stage, the hair spikes all the way up and become gold (an important Saiyan color), Vegeta has this hair style naturally which can explain why he gives Goku, who had MORE hair in their first fight, so many problems. In the Super Saiyan 2 stage, hair gets longer and bigger. In Super Sayian 3, well...[[Department of Redundancy Department|they of course get much, much more hair]], and lose their eyebrows. Now, According to the theory so far, this mean Raditz, who was basically just a Super Saiyan 3 with black hair and eyebrows should have destroyed Goku. But that's just it, his hair was not blonde/gold, and he had EYEBROWS. Perhaps this acted as a sort of power inhibitor, which would also explain why Super Saiyan 3 gives the utterly stupid fashion statement of lacking eyebrows. All Raditz had to do was shave off his eyebrows! So close...
* Now, and lastly, I'll talk about Super Saiyan 4, the most powerful form we've seen yet. Or that I've seen yet anyway... The hair is definitely longer, but not quite as long as in the previous incarnation of the legendary Super Saiyan, however! They compensate by growing red FUR on everywhere but the major muscles, but [[Testosterone Poisoning|hair can't grow on steel so that's okay]]. Not only this, they also grow back their tail, which only exists in this form, even if the Saiyan in question has had his tail pulled out instead of cut, removing it, supposedly, forever. I guess forever means [[New Powers Asas the Plot Demands|"unless they need space for the extra hair."]]
 
== Garlic And Garlic Jr. Are Namekians ==
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== The Ox-King was going to whore out his daughter. ==
Consider: When they first meet Chi-Chi, she's being sent by the Ox-King to get a favor from Master Roshi. And Chi-Chi's wearing... Well, it's quite a silly outfit. And the Ox-King ''knew'' what Roshi was like. So, the logical conclusion is that the Ox-King was willing to let Roshi [[Squick|have his daughter]] in exchange for the turtle master's services.
* [[What Do You Mean ItsIt's Not for Kids?|This is a children's cartoon, you freak!]]
** Aaaaalternatively, Ox King naively hopes that Roshi has standards, Chichi is TWELVE in that arc. Or he has faith in her ability to throw that head blade. Which she did. And it was awesome.
** But the Ox-King didn't know what Roshi was like. Roshi made it a point that he didn't want the Ox-King to know about the deal with Bulma, meaning he didn't want Ox King to know. Plus Turtle was surprised at Roshi's pervertedness when he first heard of it. Wouldn't that mean Ox King doesn't know?
*** Backed up by the fact that Roshi used to be able to ride the Nimbus, which only pure-hearted people can ride. Considering Grandpa Gohan's and the Ox-King's ages, it's possible that Roshi was different when he was training those two.
 
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* Perhaps another way of filling it in is that Vegeta considers himself unworthy of the title of King as he isn't the strongest, but has enough respect for his bloodline to call himself Prince.
** Or he could still be Prince Vegeta because he hasn't had a coronation, so he can't claim the title of King.
** Another alternative is that the Saiyans were a Principality, like Wales- Prince was the title of the ruler, not the heir to the throne. Freiza would have allowed them to keep the title as long as they submitted to him.
** Nope, his father was King. King of the Saiya-jin under Freeza's overlordship of the entire universe, mind you, but King nonetheless. I think that the above theory about lack of a coronation sounds right, not to mention there's no longer a Planet Vegeta to be King of. By the way, I've never quite figured this out: are we supposed to assume that King Vegeta was weaker than Bardock? The movie implies that, but never comes out and says it.
** Alternately, King Vegeta was the Prince of All Saiyans at the time of his death, and his ''name'' was King Vegita (Bejita-O), like how [[Fullmetal Alchemist|Fuhrer Bradley's]] first name was "King".
** Vegeta is the Prince of a race that consists of four people. Eight if you include the movies. He could declare himself King at any time because, hey, not like anyone can stop him. But as vain as Vegeta is, he probably realizes what a petty, pointless act that would be. In fact his vanity is probably what stops him from doing it; he knows he'd look like an immature child calling himself king of the sandbox at the playground.
 
== Turles is a clone of Goku. ==
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This is mostly my own impressions from the anime/manga, so feel free to dispute them thoroughly, but a) look at how easily he dispatches his enemies, and b) look at the fact that the whole deal with him is the huge power boosts he takes from his dual heritage.
 
* Firstly, Goku and Vegeta had a total of ''seven years'' non-stop training to surpass him, while Gohan didn't. It's not too much of stretch to consider that they surpassed him in strength in that time. Also, Gohan's opponents were Cell and his "children", who in comparison to Gohan were punching bags, well the former was. The Cell Juniors were more like exploding pinata, which was all simply to imply that Gohan achieved an unrivaled state of strength. The same thing was done when Goku first turned Super Saiyan, so your argument pretty much lays out like that. ''And finally'', it ignores the statements from ''both'' Goku and Vegeta upon turning [[SSJ 2]]SSJ2 that "You're stronger than Gohan when he first fought Cell." Nuff said.
 
== Goku was in Super Saiyan form during Goten's conception. ==
Most Saiyans have extreme difficulty breaking the Super Saiyan barrier, but Goten and Trunks can do it easily. What do they (and, significantly, not Gohan) have in common? Their fathers could go Super Saiyan already. Now, maybe [[Lamarck Was Right]], but Occam's razor suggests a kinkier explanation. When Goku goes SSJ, his hair color changes, so his DNA must change as well, potentially passing on different characteristics. And if you were Chi-Chi or Bulma, [[Fetish Fuel|wouldn't you want to try it]]?
* Most probably not. Trunks can go SSJ easily too, and Vegeta most likely wasn't in SSJ form at the time of his conception. He may have been ''capable'' of going SSJ, same as Goku, but he wasn't doing the deed in SSJ state, so to speak.
** Vegeta probably wasn't Super Saiyan when Future Trunks was conceived, but due to the extra training he was doing due to knowing about the androids coming, he was Super Saiyan when Present Trunks was conceived, which is why he finds it so much easier to turn SSJ then his alternate time line self.
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* Also Chichi hates SSJ form, I doubt she'd let Goku do it like that. Unless he forced her. Which is a whole new issue.
** Full tank of [[Fetish Fuel]], to go please.
* Bra also doesn't seem to be able to turn into SSJ easily -- oreasily—or at least has far too little interest in fighting to even try. Which might lend credibility to this theory.
* Also, it is stated that Goten was conceived before the Cell Games, and Goku was in SSJ pretty much permanently at the time...
* To me, it just looks like half-breed Saiyans have an easier time turning Super Saiyan, but the results are less spectacular. And in Super Saiyan form, Goku probably couldn't hold a turkey without roasting it, so just forget about makin' love.
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** I agree, it seems like it may be due to Heterosis - when creautres breed with similar genes breed, the offspring is similar to the parents. When varying creatures breed, the offspring can turn out better due to a wider selection of beneficial genes. Although it's extremely weird how humans can breed with saiyans considering how horses can't even breed properly with zebras. My guess is that humans are descended from Saiyans who used the technology of other races and evolved into being more peaceful due to the Earth being an easier place to live on.
*** Or, alternately, Saiyans are descended from humans taken from prehistoric earth by aliens and genetically enhanced into biological weapons of mass destruction....
** According to some theorists, notably among the [[DragonballDragon Ball]] [[Wiki Rule|wiki]], the half-saiyans transform with greater ease due to inheriting the saiyans' fighting potential as well as the human capacity to release their emotions (saiyans tend to suppress anything other than anger and bloodlust). And since the SSJ transformations depend on extreme rage...
** Also note that it is only in the anime movie that Future Trunks' SSJ transformation was triggered by his grief and rage over Future Gohan's death. In the manga he was ''already'' able to transform, and the events that triggered his transformation is in fact not ever mentioned. And really, Gohan wasn't subjected to all that much emotional stress during his transformation sequence either, not when compared to what Goku and Vegeta went through. Then consider all their ages: Future Trunks (anime movie) - 14, Future Trunks(manga) - younger than 13, Gohan - 11 (physically 11.5-12 counting subjective time), Future Gohan - unknown, but implied to be soon after Goku's and the other Z-fighter's deaths, which would be mid teens at the latest. In short ''all'' the half-Saiyans in ''all'' the time lines ''all'' made SSJ at ridiculously young ages.
* This theory (that SSJ transformation ability is inherited in a partly Lamarkian fashion) also potentially explains why Pan did ''not'' ever transform into SSJ, despite several instances of extreme emotional stress/rage that might have caused such a transformation. At the time ''she'' was conceived, her father had undergone the Elder Kai's manipulation and did not need to transform to access his full power. Couple that with the fact that Pan appears to be at least as strong as a low-level [[SSJ 1]], on par with Goku when he fought Freeza (note how easily she disables and captures Dr. Gero/Android 20 in one scene), and how her ki aura turns SSJ gold when she powers up, and it raises the possibility that Pan inherited some part of the "mystic" transformation from Gohan, enabling her to access SSJ level power without physically transforming.
* This ties in with the WMG of the tail-SSJ connection above. We know Goku hadn't gone SSJ prior to Gohan's conception, but had by the time of Goten's. Vegeta had the capability to go SSJ when Trunks was conceived. We also know we never see a SSJ with a tail. Perhaps the removal of a saiyans tail begins a BIOLOGICAL process that results in the ability to go SSJ. This change could be passed on to offspring. Goku had lost his tail a good while ago when Gohan had been born, but had yet to complete the process. Thus, Gohan has an easier time going SSJ than Goku or Vegeta because he started somewhere in the middle of the process and the tail prevented it from progressing. By the time Goten was conceived, Goku had completed the SSJ process and passed his new genetic sequence more fully onto Goten. The reason Vegeta was able to go SSJ so comparitively soon (compared to Goku) after losing his tail was because he was in more near-death experiences. Its canon that Saiyans get a chunk stronger after almost dying, possibly pushing them along the SSJ process, but further, he was HEALED alot more. Indicating a higher rate of cell division. Goku regaining his tail in ''GT'' (a slow time consuming process) started a new biological process that allowed for a SSJ 4 state. Baby replicated this process within Vegeta after seeing it in Goku.
** Nice explanation but mostly likely NOT. The whole SSJ transformation was already a legend among Saiyan culture. Vegeta briefly pictures a gold SSJ Oozaru rampaging per the legends he was told and no Saiyans prior to Goku (who was not on his native planet) ever let their tails be removed. So there is reasons to believe that SSJ could be achieved by Saiyans with tails intact but it was so rare that it became something of myth and legend.
 
== The dinosaurs, talking animals & other weirdness are the result of the Dragon Balls. ==
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== Dr. Briefs collected all the Dragon Balls sometime in the past. ==
Think about it: in order to create the Dragon Radar, he must have had contact with them before, right? Plus his inventions do things that blatently defy the laws of physics. This could be the result of a wish granted by the Dragon.
* Bulma found a dragon ball in her basement to make the radar -- presumablyradar—presumably someone just randomly picked it up or bought it as a fancy jewel. No wishes had previously been granted in 100 years, I think the manga says this.
 
== Dr. Briefs is some 753 years old. ==
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* That's pretty much a given, Namek orbits crazily around three Suns... That's why they are so strong.
* Actually, [[Word of God]] in the recent (Japanese only) guidebook "Super Exciting Guide: Character Volume" says that Namekians have enzymes in their bodies that turn water into nutrients.
** Which is exactly what plants do. And of course, this is coming from the same guy who said [[Artistic License: Biology|tails are a recessive trait]] [[They Just Didn't Care|even though Gohan had one, and the fact that he has a daughter demonstrates he doesn't have a monosomy disorder.]]
 
== Piccolo really didn't understand that human-like beings like Gohan actually ''needed'' food. ==
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** Plus Fasha was on a different planet the day after Goku was born. That's some impressive recovery if she really is the mother.
* Alternatively, she wasn't a Saiyan's offspring, but some sort of superhuman experiment, and her mom was a [[Hot Scientist]]. How such hottie could get with <s>Hercule</s> Mr. Satan and have a cute daughter is yet to be explained.
** What's love got to do with it? She chose him because of his claims to be the strongest man, as part of her plan to breed a [[Super Soldier]]. After selecting the proper chromosome matches for her brains and his brawn, plus possibly some Saiyan DNA she found lying on some battlefield, Videl was the result.
*** She could even be Dr. Gero's daughter, and planned to take over the world with a super soldier, but probably didn't expect to be a labrat for Gero's heart virus (look theories below, and you know he'd be capable). After she finally got used to her family life, she suffered the same symptoms, dying when Videl was a kid. [[Tear Jerker]] indeed.
** Nitpick, but Kuririn isn't the only ordinary human capable of flight. Yamucha is, too. Of course, that doesn't detract from your point.
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**** Yamcha flew all the time in Z, check out the android saga.
**** Tien is stated clearly to be a human who gained his third eye through "attaining enlightenment". He and Chiaotzu apparently learned it as a technique from the crane school (Roshi's rival). By the end of ''Dragon Ball'' and the beginning of Z, most of the Z fighters at that time possessed the ability.
* Another possibilty may be that Videl is actually Fasha reborn as a human with no memories of her past life... After all, you do have Kid Buu reincarnate as Uub at the end of Dragon Ball Z, who's to say that it hasn't happened before (it also seems to be the natural process for those who were not totally evil)? The main difference between the two cases is that Goku made the request for Uub to retain some of his past life's fighting skill and potential (at least I think that's the case), while Fasha's memories were wiped completely before she was reborn as Videl. But, on some sort of subconcious level, she remembered certain details... That's why Videl was able to learn how to use her Ki to fly so fast!
** If such is the case, Fasha's memory wouldn't need wiping. When a person is reincarnated as another after death, all memories and knowledge of their previous life disappear permanently. That's why no one can remember ever having any past lives. If Fasha was reborn as Videl, she wouldn't remember her past life anyway.
 
== Nappa was once the most powerful Saiyan. ==
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** She doesn't just call him brother, she repeatedly teases him for being a man - liking cars, never wanting to ask directions, etc.
*** That would be pretty ruthlessly funny if he had been made into one against his will, no?
* Remember, it was only in the anime that #17 has a male voice. Maybe in the manga Toriyama intended for them to sound the same--aftersame—after all, they look exactly the same except for the hair. And #17's bandanna could be covering up some cleavage...
* [[Unfortunate Implications|Oh my god, you mean there's a strong guy in ]]''[[Dragon Ball (Manga)|Dragon Ball]]''[[Unfortunate Implications| who doesn't have 24-inch pythons unless he gets fused with his clone from hell in an ]][[Dragon Ball GT|alternate continuation]][[Unfortunate Implications|? EGADS!]]
 
== The "heart virus" Goku dies of in the alternate future is a biological weapon made by the aliens who taught him the teleportation move. ==
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== The "heart virus" Goku dies of in the alternate future is caused by the attack Devilman used on him when he was a child. ==
When Devilman used the devilmite beam on goku, he was a child, & his heart was pure. But, who's to say that the effects of the beam didn't wear off immediately afterwards? The devilmite beam might have been permanent, & Goku's purity didn't last forever. During his battle with Frieza, Goku became enraged (which caused him to become a super saiyan) after he found out that Frieza killed his best friend & his entire species. The devilmite then took effect, but the beams grew slowly, because Devilman wasn't manipulating them. Eventually (about a year after he went SSJ) the beams grew large enough for Goku to start feeling them. The beams then shredded Goku's heart, & he died before they could destroy anything else.
* How come medicine worked on it, then?
** Simple Goku's heart was weakened, he was strong enough to fight the Devilmite beam. But it weakened his heart enough to allow the heart virus to work, why else was Goku the only one affected?
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== Frieza's death caused problems only slightly more preferable to the ones it solved. ==
We're talking about an empire that may span dozens, if not hundreds, of planets. We're talking about a creature that was so powerful that nothing could challenge him. So now that he's gone, the universe is suddenly facing a massive power vacuum. Numerous people will be competing to fill that vacuum - many of them probably a little whacked, others completely insane, and still others just dumb and selfish with no clue what it takes to rule properly. And each of these people will have their supporters, some looking for a free ticket to power and status, and others showing cultlike devotion to their new master and his grand destiny. Bloodshed for years. Huge-scale anarchy. Err, maybe Vegeta taking over wouldn't have been so bad?
* It wouldn't happen because almost everyone that wanted to take over when Freeza eventual death would happen was working for him ''and'' died. The only one that wanted such thing is alive after his death is Vegeta (who pretty much redeemed himself); or, if you take in consideration [[Sealed Evil in Aa Can]], Buu.
** Two problems. The first is that power levels for better or worse seem to make a lot more difference in who wins a fight than inteligence or talent. So once the Ginyu force and Freiza were wiped out Zarbon likely could have taken command with little trouble. Possibly less trouble than the Captain Ginyu since all the flashbacks suggest that Zarbon and Dodoria are the next in command regardless of their power levels. The second being that Frieza couldn't be everywhere at once and since it's implied that the Saiyans are well above the rank and file (and lets be honest Raditz wasn't all that powerful by any scale used in DBZ) the elimination of Frieza, King Cold, the Ginyu Force, Zarbon and Dodoria and Cui all at once is an enormous vacuum.
** Why assume that the only megalomaniac villains out there are the ones we see? Surely, some reasonably powerful people are going to come crawling out of the woodwork when they get their chance?
** If you count GT, then Dr. Myuu and his Machine Mutant Empire would count as one such villain.
* Freeza's empire is stated in the Anime dub to have slightly over 40 planets, sometime in the early Namek Saga. That's a lot of worlds, but considering that the average world has no Saiyin-level Chi-users, and the number of powerful individuals who died around the same time as Frieza (anyone left after that struggle would have to be too weak for the Ginyu Force, and probably weaker than Zarbon or Dodoria), no war would have resulted which a lone Z fighter couldn't wrap up on a dull weekend. Most likely Vegeta, during his stint of away-from-Earth training which ultimately got him a Super Saiyin form. Though, of course, he would have just killed any warlords, and said he was coming back later to rule their worlds. Maybe people are still out there, trembling in fear at the though of his return...
* The show is pretty coy in describing what Frieza and his henchmen are exactly, but they were far from civilized. They knew nothing of technology and power levels, yet somehow they had really impressive technology and power levels; sometimes they called themselves "mutants." I'd figured they were bio-engineered soldiers, and the real bosses were on some other planet.
* The 2008 special explains that Abo and Cado took over, so no real problems. Plus, by the end of the special, they're friendly with the Z fighters, which is probably good news for their empire. Obviously not canon, but it is an explanation.
* Vegeta was shown at one point beating up on [[The Remnant]] of Frieza's forces on the occasional world, so it looks like the individual planets were simply allowed to go free (if Abo and Cado didn't take them back).
** Must be filler. After the Frieza arc the DBZ team had no further access to spaceships, and the only ones who ever space-travelled after that were Goku and Dende.
*** Dr. Briefs almost certainly still has the blueprints for the insanely upgraded version of Goku's spacepod that he built for Goku, and IIRC, Bulma herself modified Piccolo's ship for human use, so those plans should still be rolling around as well.
** Have we neglected Cooler? Or King Cold? Frieza's older brother and father, respectively? They most likely have control of his empire now.
*** Not... terribly likely, given that King Cold was killed by Future Trunks about two minutes after Freiza, and Cooler was killed in the movies. He may have gotten sorta better, but wasn't in any condition to do any ruling. And was killed once and for all anyway.
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== Saiyans are to the Time Lords as Romulans are to the Vulcans. ==
Romulans are a violent warrior race and look similiar to the Vulcans. Vulcans are a logical observational race. Saiyans are a violent warrior race and look similiar to Time Lords, yet there's the difference of the tail. Time Lords are a logical observational race. Saiyans just go through regenerations differently (super saiyan state) or sometimes not at all.
* If they are related, the divergence must have been much, much farther in the past than the Vulcan-Romulan split, judging by physiological differences. I read somewhere that the Vulcans and Romulans diverged around the time of Christ, and all their differences are cultural, wheres Time Lord-Saiyan differences are in many respects genetic, indicating time for divergent evolution.
** Perhaps the Time Lords banished their more violent members eons ago, before inventing TARDISes, and sent them all to a random planet in space pods, the random planet just happening to be inhabited by Tuffles? This would, of course, imply that Time Lords originally had tails, and it is the Saiyans who are the physically closer to the ancestor species...
*** This would imply that Time Lords can go Oozaru at some stage. Maybe Gallifrey has something to do with Blutz waves?
== Vegeta is American. ==
Think about it! His attacks have English names in Japan, his Big Bang Attack causes Nuclear Explosions, he's the most arrogant person in the series. There's no doubt he's more [[Yu-Gi-Oh!: theThe Abridged Series (Web Video)|American]] than [[Yu-Gi-Oh!|Bandit Keith]].
* Alternately, everyone in Planet Vegeta were Americans. Most of them happen to have vegetable names in English, only slightly modified.
** Lol, possible. But [[Word of God]] has it that Vegeta was given English moves so as to seem more alien to the Japanese audience.
*** Like Americans.
 
== Most Saiyans are (or were, briefly) alive ==
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* The Hell you see on the show doesn't look like the one from "Fusion Reborn." Sure they may be connected to each other (since the bad guys escaped from this Hell), but Gaz and Moz's section of Hell is really known as the Home For Infinite Losers.
** The Hell in "Fusion Reborn" was altered by Janemba. In the movie Goku is shown falling into what looked like floating red gelatin, only for the camera to pan to a sign reading "Blood Fountain" showing that it was previously that established landmark. At the end of the movie it all went back to normal. As for the name HFIL, this troper's theory is that the censors just took the word HELL and lopped off the bottom portion of the letters, leaving H F I and lowercase L.
*** That's correct. Go watch the uncencored version of the [[FU NimationFUNimation]] dub (Remastered). Their shirts read HELL.
 
== Piccolo's [[Heel Face Turn]] Only Became Possible With Goku's Death ==
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The similarities? Both require a tremendous level of power in base form, they both require the user to go through a personality change of sorts, both have a golden aura, and both grant the user ridiculous levels of power. The only difference between the two is that Sacred Energy doesn't change the eye color of the user. But maybe the hair and eye color change is just a Saiyan trait.
 
== Dende is an avatar of [[Haruhi Suzumiya (Light Novel)|Haruhi Suzumiya]]. ==
He is made the new Kami-sama of Earth for a reason.
 
== Goku was able to continually surpass Vegeta because he drank the Divine Water ==
Goku drank the Divine Water in Korin's Tower in order to defeat King Piccolo. It changed him from being a lowly C-Rank warrior to probably an A-Rank Warrior. Guru's raising of Gohan's and Krilin's potential probably had a similar effect.
* Interesting, and entirely possible! That would explain why Krillin pulled far ahead of the other humans after the Namek saga.
** Now that I think of it, if [[Lamarck Was Right]] biology applies to the [[DragonballDragon Ball]] universe, than young Trunks and Goten should've easy surpass their fathers, and maybe Vegito for that matter, if they put any serious effort into training.
* You mean the divine water he drank before his fight with King Piccolo? Because the 'divine water' in Korin's tower was just ordinary water.
** Right, that 'Divine Water', the one that's potentially fatal. Not the ordinary water that Korin normally guards.
* All the kami water did is give him a power boost. The reason why Kakarot was able to easily surpass Vegeta is because he had more battle smarts. Even though Vegeta trained more and violently then Kakarot, Goku trained smarter and more efficiently than him. A good example of this is when Vegeta was on Namek getting his face pounded in and Goku was training in 100x gravity, who do you think suffered more Goku or Vegeta, I believe that one's so easy it doesn't need to be answered because we all know the answer, but answer this to your self who came out stronger. Goku's training was no walk in the park either but he did it at a steady pace or at least steady for him since we all know how energetic Goku is. Oh yeah do you remember when Kakarot came out of the hyperbolic time chamber stronger than Vegeta (because he mastered the fpssj instead of the assj form) because he recieved better training than him and it was because he trained (worked on his strength and speed) instead of torturing himself.
 
== King Chappa and Mr. Satan are one and the same person ==
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== Frieza is an alternate-universe version of [[Batman]]. ==
Assuming that his actual parents are dead, and King Cold is his subordinate (very nearly canon) and parental figure ("king" being a given name like King Vegeta is guessed to have on the [[Dragon Ball (Manga)/Headscratchers/Headscratchers/DragonballGeneral|JustBugsMe]] page). [[Batman Can Breathe in Space|He can breathe in space]], he goes from a less bulky physique than most (but not all) beings of similar power, getting [[Batman: theThe Animated Series|more]] and [[Superman: theThe Animated Series|more]] bulky before [[Bishounen Line|dropping into]] a [[The Dark Knight|physique]] not extremely dissimilar from his original form but with a [[Sculpted Physique]] (literal to the trope for Frieza, literal to the title for Batman). His [[Superman|rival]] is a humanlike space alien who got sent to earth before its home planet was destroyed, became more powerful than any of his own species, met many others despite being [[Last of His Kind]], and [[Dragon Ball (Manga)/Headscratchers/Headscratchers/DragonballGeneral|notably]] indulged in [[Super Dickery]]. His (back to Frieza/Batman) fighting style includes [[Batman Gambit|manipulating his opponents and allies based on how he thinks they think]], and while for most of Frieza's run he doesn't rely on tools, he does use his [[Up to Eleven|spaceships]] and [[Utility Belt|chair]] in his first form and eventually a mechanical contrivance to fight despite being incapacitated and very nearly killed by a much stronger opponent. The two most significant differences between Frieza and Batman are that Frieza merely ended up weak [[The Worf Effect|compared to the other fighters]], and Batman usually puts his skills on the side of justice instead of the side of making himself more money.
* So…if Batman ever got selfish…[[The DCU]] would become something akin to a [[Hell Onon Earth]]? Honestly…I believe you.
 
== Future Bulma didn't actually build a time machine - she built a machine made to travel through to ''alternate realities''! ==
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* I'm with you, this guy is a genius!
* You're not insane, just wrong. Trunks did travel through time the first time, but in affecting the past, he automatically created a new dimension. There is ''no'' way for Trunks to travel back to his ''own'' past timeline, because in that past time line Trunks ''did not'' travel into the past. Because if he had, then that future wouldn't exist. Make sense?
** Actually, its canon that any time-travel they commit also is interdimensional travel as well, since Trunks notes that there are several things in the main Z timeline that are different from his own (like their Androids being ridiculously stronger than his own or Goku falling from his disease at a different time).
*** Precisely. There is no way to travel into your own timeline, so in that sense only interdimensional travel is possible.
 
== ''Dragon Ball Z'' was suppose to be ''Dragon Ball The Next Generation'' ==
Nowadays many viewers wondered why did [[Akira Toriyama]] became such a Master in [[Demoted to Extra]] when it came to just about any DBZ character whom was from DB. (Well except for Goku, even though Akira seemed to have tried to do that. Namely on how later on in the series Goku has been accused of trying a little too hard to get the younger fighters to take over his role.) Its no secret that Gohan was suppose to have taken over the role of "Earth's Hero" and Main Character from his Father. (In which plenty of fans have wished that the show ended on the Cell Saga so Akira might have actually got his wish.) While DBZ did have its fair share of new characters, Goku never did lose his role as Earth's main protector. And despite on how they have been hit with the "[[Demoted to Extra]]" trope (some a lot more than others) it was still pretty much the adventures of Goku and his friends.
 
But in Akira Toriyama's defense its an interesting idea to try to come up with a "Next Generation" a bit more gradually. Cause often enough when a franchise tries to use that idea we get a bunch of new characters that come out of nowhere, in which we might not even be certain if we are in the same continuity anymore. (But its generally due to the story having a time skip when that happens though how much of a time skip can often vary.) The story would often like to claim that these characters would have any connection to any previously established character, even though the story never actually mentioned their existence until now. Akira tried to avert this by getting Gohan to one day take over his father's role gradually. But sadly DBZ is probably quite the example on how that kind of idea can go wrong. So in other words Akira might have succeeded in truly getting Gohan to truly take over his father's position as Earth's Main Defender if he did it right from the start.
* [[Word of God]] says, mostly, yeah. [[Executive Meddling]] and negative fan reaction (the Japanese really REALLY like Goku) forced him to keep bringing Goku back time and time again.
* In support of this is the fact that while Goku in DB was a legitimate [[Kid Hero]] who saved the world many times over, adult Goku in DBZ was actually not much of a big hero (and even in some ways a subversion of the hero concept). Consider: he didn't save the world from Raditz alone (enter Piccolo), he didn't save the world from Vegeta and Nappa alone (enter Vegeta's own [[Bad Boss|Bad Bossness]]ness, Gohan, Krillin, and Yajirobe), he didn't save Namek from Freeza (no one did), he actually endangered Earth by provoking Freeza, and he didn't protect Earth from Freeza afterwards (Mirai Trunks did), he didn't save the world from the Androids (turned out it didn't need to be done, or maybe ''Krillin'' did by showing enough compassion to No.18 to prevent them from going evil), he didn't save the world from Cell (unless guiding Gohan to it counts), he had a chance to save the world from Fat Buu and didn't do it (Mr. Satan did by befriending Buu), his plan to save the world from Super Buu by teaching fusion to Goten and Trunks failed miserably (failed to take into account that the kids weren't emotionally mature enough to pull it off), and his contribution to stopping Kid Buu was as part of a team effort (along with Mr. Satan, Vegeta, and ''the entire population of the earth'').
** Fascinating, I'd never thought of it that way before. So the only time he truly saved the world all by himself was when he beat Piccolo Daimaou all those years ago. All part of the Shonen Jump mantra of "friendship and effort" or whatever, I guess.
 
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Reacoom is really the announcer. He talks slowly when recapping previous episodes because he has trouble reading his cues. He couldn't announce for the beginning of episodes 30 because he was busy getting ready for his fight with Vegeta, nor episode 31 because he was in the middle of it. (he was able to announce the end of episode 30 because the fight was put on hold for the next week, of course)
 
== [[Humans Are Bastardsthe Real Monsters|Humans are (on average) the worst, most violent species in existance, not Saiyans.]] ==
There's only been one saiyan recorded in the last 3000 years that wasn't in close contact with humans for years before his transformation, and that's Broly, who had a [[Slave Crown]] and a parent who made the normal Saiyan [[Training Fromfrom Hell]] look like [[Bowdlerization|Training From HFIL]]. Goku was raised by humans, and even needed his best friend being killed in cold blood before his eyes to snap and go Super Saiyan rage in his mid-twenties. The [[Authority Equals Asskicking|incredibly powerful Prince]] Vegeta was raised by the punk kid who enslaved and later destroyed his entire planet (and I ''mean'' "his", being Prince of All Saiyans), then got surpassed by some punk serf-class guy who lived most of his life on a backwards planet with almost nobody above [[Power Levels|level 5]], and spent a few years using mystical and technological training weights to push his rage at, probably, Goku being more powerful. This was when he was at ''least'' over thirty (unless I drastically overestimated his age), but he had exposure to humans for a much shorter time than Goku. Gohan, a half-human and raised (mostly) by humans, has emotion-based power boost, turned Super Saiyan when he was eleven and [[Unstoppable Rage|Super Saiyan 2]] when he was 12. Trunks and Goten were SS-capable by the age of ten, and while Goten had (almost definitely, I don't remember the timeline) been conceived after Goku was SS-capable, Trunks required [[Training Fromfrom Hell]] anyway- Goten just needed a human family. That included [[Tsundere|Chichi]] (as did Gohan, until he was five).<br />What have the Saiyans not had that the DBZ Saiyans and Half-Saiyans had in droves? Human associates. Huan associates that taught them (and other alien characters) to repress emotion until it bursts out of their ears like steam, have violent outbursts at any expression of their species' traditional pastimes (and then switch completely to ''encourage'' this in a younger sibling), let illogical sequences of thought and action slide as long as they sound okay, [[Moral Event Horizon|shoot dogs for fun and]] [[Berserk Button|lack of profit]], and (though this is usually the tipping point after years of buildup of the [[Humans Are Bastardsthe Real Monsters|Human Bastardry]]) [[World of Cardboard Speech|watch their weak human friends die like flies]]. Saiyans just kill things for food, release of aggression, money and at least sometimes honor, which humans do all the time ''plus'' those other things. The only beings in the series that are worse than the average human mercenary (on a wider scale) are the [[Card -Carrying Villain|Card Carrying Villains]] that originate from Earth or [[Always ChaoticExclusively Evil|other dimensions]] anyway.<br />Therefore, [[Humans Are Bastardsthe Real Monsters|DBZ humans are the most evil,]] [[Straw Vulcan|loony]] [[Humans Are Bastardsthe Real Monsters|species in existence]] (at least on average, since some humans are only evil ''or'' loony), and ''bring out the worst'' in even ''Saiyans''.
* Except most of the humans in the series weren't that bad.
*** And who's saying that?
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* This is actually widely believed by fans, and is pretty much fanon / almost canon. However, if you follow the GT canon, Ginyu gets sent to Hell and is reunited with his recognizable purple body. This could just be for the viewers' sake, or in GT he really was the purple guy. However, if you don't follow GT, the above theory looks very acceptable.
** Alternatively, the purple guy who came from Hell in GT was ''actually the frog in Ginyu's old body?''
*** In Budokai Tenkaichi 3, it says that Ginyu was originally the same race as Jeice and Sauzer.
 
== Bulla is far stronger than she looks. ==
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== Tarble looks so young because the planet he was sent to is so very far away ==
Tarble spent most of his life in cold sleep. He heard of Frieza's defeat shortly after it happened, but it took him another several years of travel to get to earth.
* So, a male [[Tenchi Muyo!|Ayeka]], huh? Wow, that explains everything.
 
== Saiyans have a collective source of energy from which they draw their transformative powers. ==
After Frieza killed off all the saiyans but four (or maybe nine or ten, if you count the movies), it became incredibly easy to go to higher levels of power, passing Super Saiyan and going to Legendary Super Saiyan (when you reach SS the hard way first) or [[SS 2]]SS2+.
 
== Saiyans are an offshoot of the human race, or the two races share a common ancestor. ==
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* Jossed by genetics. If this theory were valid, she'd be a boy.
** Not necessarily. There ARE female Saiyans, so their genetics have to be close enough that you can derive either a male or a female.
*** Gohan has his X chromossome from Chichi and his Y chromossome from Goku (there's no ohter way around). He passes his X (Chichi's) chromossome to Pan and so does Videl, hence Pan is a girl. Since Gohan's X's chromossome is entirely human, we could either assume that a female born from Gohan is less Saiyan than a male son.
**** Except you're confusing sex-linked traits, carried on the sex chromosomes (the X and Y chromosomes), with with traits carried on the autosomes (all the other chromosomes). Species is not a sex-linked trait, it's the result of a specific combination of genes on a specific arrangement of chromosomes that an organism has. There might be Saiyan-specific genes that are carried on the Y chromosome that Pan wouldn't have inherited (that female full Saiyans also wouldn't have), but that doesn't mean she has any less Saiyan DNA than a hypothetical son of Gohan's. An offspring's always going to get half of each parents' DNA (Except in the case of nondisjunction, in which case the offspring would either not end up being viable and getting miscarried or, if they were born, would probably have many serious medical issues.). The only way for Pan to have been half Saiyan would be if Gohan and Videl decided to make a designer baby and add another quarter set of Saiyan DNA from another Saiyan.
 
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* But he heals completely! It probably takes way longer than that to learn a sixth sense, even if you sorta need it. And even if he did learn, wouldn't he just forget it after his eye heals?
** Well, yes, but Vegeta's very gifted. He could've noticed that it could be done, and when he lost sight in one figured out how to do it. From what we see on Namek, Vegeta did learn it, this just seems the best reason.
* According to a WMG below saiyans have sharigan and this could be what helped him to learn to since energy, or perhaps it was [[Word of God|the creators']] way of [[Applied Phlebotinum|moving the story along]].
 
== Dabura was a nice guy and benevolent king with a few dickish habits and desires before Babidi majin'd him ==
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== Raditz was, is, and always will be the most powerful fighter ==
Raditz had hair with a length that rivaled goku in SS3, so my theory is that Raditz was able to transform into an SS at a very younge age, due to being constantly beaten to near death due to his weakness. after his 105th or so loss, he became sdo enraged that he became a super sayan. He kept this hidden so that he could train more and allow himself to be beaten in order to become even more powerful, but eventually he reached the point where a normal sayin couldnt do any damage to him. He knew that Vegeta or Nappa could damage him, as well as Frieza, but they would have killed him, and he would have not been able to come back since he didnt know about the dragon balls. So he went to earth to have Goku, whom he knew would be strong enough but not kill him, to beat him senseless, but he didnt expecct Gohan and Piccolo.
Now, it could be said that Goku was, at birth, one of Frieza's minions, and he never really formally quit. That means that when all people destroyed by Frieza's minions were brought back to life, so was he, twice as powerful as before, with a powerlevel now exceding 1,000,000. He then used a time machine to go to Trunks universe and get killed by Cell. Then he was brought back to life again in Fusion Reborn. After he was killed once again his powerlevel was well over a billion and he could become [[SSJ 4]]. he then killed king yenma and went off to train in the world, waiting for the day goku would be strong enough to stand a chance against him
** Raditz was killed by Piccolo, not Goku, who had nothing to do at all with Frieza, and it had been more than 1 year after his death so he wouldn't have been revived anyway. [[Epic Fail|Natch.]]
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== 18 is, somehow, related to [[Leave It to Beaver|Mrs. Cleaver]] ==
Seriously, how many people would actually engage in hand-to-hand combat while wearing pearls?
 
== Kaio-sama/King Kai [[Narrator All Along|is the narrator]]. (In the Japanese version.) ==
Both are played by [[Jouji Yanami]], besides King Kai ''is'' a God of sorts. Why wouldn't he be able to narrate the story? (This kinda falls apart in the dub where [[Sean Schemmel]] is King Kai, Brice Armstrong narrates [[DragonballDragon Ball]], [[Kyle Hebert]] narrates [[Dragonball Z]], Andy Chandler narrates [[Dragon Ball GT]] and Doc Morgan narrates [[Dragonball Z Kai]].)
 
== Saiyans & Nameks are polar opposites ==
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* It can safely be assumed that all Saiyan tech comes from Frieza's army, but the Nameks can create spacecrafts that can travel an entire galaxy in a month (although it is possible that they wished for these materials from Porunga [kami/piccolo was from the dragon clan, after all])
 
* Saiyans [[Involuntary Shapeshifting|transform]] into giant monkeys, while Nameks have the [[Sizeshifter|ability to grow]] [[Attack of the 50 -Foot Whatever|giant]].
 
* Saiyans are [[Big Eater|Big Eaters]]s while Namekians don't need to eat
 
== The Black-Star Dragon Balls can grant literally any wish, & more than once ==
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== Future Trunks is Ranfan's husband. ==
It's not that far-fetched. After going back to his time and defeating the Androids, Trunks decided to go back further in the past, to a time when Goku is still a kid and the rest of the Saiyans haven't arrived on Earth yet. He ended up being romantically involved with Ranfan in the past and eventually married her. That's why Ranfan's husband is also named Trunks.
* Where does it show Ranfan married to someone named Trunks?
** In the ''Dragon Ball Bouken Special'' manga guide published by Shueisha in 1987. [http://daizex.com/general/feature/ See here for more info].
* Damn you! I just thought of that same theory and pulled up this page so I could post it, only to find it at the very bottom of the page...
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== Kid Buu is at least the second most powerful form of Majin Buu ==
Okay, I know people can't seem to agree on which is the most powerful form of Buu, so I just though I'd stick this up and see what people think. When Super Buu is changing back into Kid Buu we get an explanation from the Supreme Kai about what's happening, and about midway through Old Kai specifically says that absorbing the other Supreme Kai's made Buu weaker. So every form he took after absorbing them (Fat Buu, Old Buu and Super Buu) was weaker than Kid Buu. This doesn't include the other absorbtions though, so I think the order goes like this:
 
Super Buu (With Gohan, Goten, Trunks and Piccolo),
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4) Misc. Evidence: During the initial stages of the Great Ape transformation and beyond, a Saiyans eyes change colour into... Sharingan red. If it wasn't for the lack of Sharingan tomoe encircling the iris Goku, Vegeta and Gohan would have been dead ringers for Uchiha.
 
All in all, proof for the Saiyan Sharingan is irrefutable.
* A Saiyan's iris isn't really emphasized, I believe that you are just another ''[[Naruto (Manga)|Naruto]]'' fanatic and are just making up nonsense to make everyone in the ''Naruto'' universe seem like they are part Saiyan. Because we all know that ''Dragon Ball Z'' will kill ''Naruto''.
 
== Dragon Ball takes place in Shadowrun's Sixth World ==
Futuristic technology, widely present magic and a rather large metahuman population first just make it look like a regular {{fantasy[[Fantasy kitchenKitchen sink}}Sink]] world but a lot real historical figures, events and cultures are referenced in the series. To the citizens of Dragon Ball Earth, they might be ancient history.
 
On this earth, the Awakening in 2011 also must have reshaped the world a lot more radically than in {{''[[Shadowrun}}]]'', resulting in a very different looking world map.
 
== Chi-Chi is jealous, envious and afraid of her family ==
She has to know that any of them can wipe the floor with her. Yes, go Big Head Yell, throw objects, fume and rage--coolrage—cool. They obey her because they love her; They fear her temper because of that love, it makes them upset to see her upset. She has them by the heartstrings, but in no other way. Her way of handling or mishandling them goes back to the final tournament of the original DB. She shows up, wants to surprise the boy she loves, figures to give him a good fight at worst, which is fair. Goku was always strong, but he wasn't making super-geometric leaps when they were kids. But she shows up, and not only does he not recognize her, he brushes aside her combat challenge, one she has prepared for likely for years, under the tutelage of a great fighter, her own father. From the start she realizes even the hint of physical control of any sort is out for her men, and must therefore keep herself tsundere to handle it all.
* Very likely; from a female perspective I have to say thats often how it works in real life. I can honestly say every single one of my boyfriends has been stronger and larger than me; but a loud voice and a little love goes a long way.
* Alternatively, her family did their best to keep her happy to keep the food coming. She is known for her fantastic cooking abilities and saiyans (and half-saiyans) being what they are, consume A LOT of food. If Chi Chi is not kept happy, the food may stop coming which would be a fate worse than death.
** Most times, it wouldn't be so inherently unequal. With application and leverage, many times a size and strength advantage can be alleviated. In Chi-Chi's case, this is impossible, which is sad. Release her, Yamcha or Mister Satan in our world, and they would kick most ass without powering up. Her firstborn flew through a tree unharmed within weeks of his birth. Her younger son achieved a genetic milestone while not yet 10. Most grandmothers don't have their little ones making worldwide flights before kindergarten. While she can be obnoxiously tsundere (The ''Kai'' cut of her after the Saiyan arc doubles this), it is her way of keeping from going Super Nutso Level 5.
 
== Namekians have a stunted sex-drive ==
It always bothered me why the Namekian civilization is so small despite the fact two hundred years had passed since the near-extinction of their species. Given the amount of healthy adults and given that we've already seen King Piccolo could lay at least half a dozen eggs in a matter of days, their population should at least be double what we see. Then I realized that Piccolo Jr, Kami and Dende have all shown no interest in starting a family either (in fact it could be argued that neither did Guru or King Piccolo. Guru had no choice and King Piccolo was only interested in using his mutated children for war). During Frieza's invasion, we saw no more than ten kids maximum. All things considered, Namekians appear to have the sex-drive of a Panda. Only reproducing when they have no other option. It could be theorized that without the biological impulse to have sex like humans do, Namekians have no inclination to reproduce and may in fact find the whole subject a taboo.
** Or they may be going for quality, and not quantity. There are fewer children because they want each child to have the most love and attention while growing up.
** They don't have a sex drive. They reproduce asexually.
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It's supposed to be extremely rare to the point that Goku is the first Super Saiyan in thousands of years, yet once Goku transforms, every other surviving Saiyan (except Tarble and Paragus) is able to transform. My theory is that Super Saiyans have a passive ability to accelerate other Saiyans' transformation (and thus require less of a "push" to make the first transformation) just by being near them. Thus, once Goku first transformed, other Saiyans required less of a push to make the change, to the point where Goten who had spent his entire life around a Super Saiyan (Gohan of course) was able to transform without even trying.
* Or maybe it only affects babies.
* Or the transformation to super saiyan occured through years of saiyan babies getting stronger.<br />Vegeta said saiyans, after being wounded, come back as strong as whatever wounded them, well maybe the strength is passed down and dormant in every child, making the first saiyan relativly weak compared to the last saiyan.
* If goku got a lobotomy, then by some manner of [[Applied Phlebotinum|Saiyan Strength]], was revived to the point of not being a vegetable anymore, would he have physcic powers, considering a lobotomy is a surgical interruption of one or more nerve tracts in the frontal lobe of the brain: used in the treatment of intractable mental disorders.<br />This is mentioned because to come back stronger from a brain ailment would have to be '''¿physcic?''' powers, right?
** Goku was able to read Krillin's brain by touching it on Namek. So it's pretty much canon that he already ''does'' have psychic powers.
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**** True, Bulma gets upset with Yamcha about his flirting with other city girls in ''Dragon Ball'' which leads to her ditching Yamcha and going to search for the dragon balls after the first World Tournament and the beginning of the Red Ribbon Army arc.
**** Now, now, I believe things are a bit more complicated than that. I don't think there has been a single instance of Yamcha openly flirting with another girl. And, as Bulma's Mom explained during the Red Ribbon Army arc, Tsundere Bulma got jealous of Yamcha's status as a [[Chick Magnet]]. Of all the times they fought and "broke up" we only get to hear Bulma's side of the argument which boils down to insult Yamcha/throw a temper tantrum; without mentioning she's not above laying her eyes on other men (Goku, General Blue, Zarbon). Finally, the only evidence of Yamcha's "infidelity" comes from Future Trunks' testimony. Info which clearly he got from [[Unreliable Narrator|Bulma]], who might as well have said that in order to save face.
**** The only time I can ever remember someone accusing Yamcha of cheating was a pre-22nd Budoukai-vaguely-Red-Ribbon-Army-ish episode where a thief or soldier flirts with him, he looks incredibly uncomfortable with it. Bulma ''misinterprets the entire scene,'' and refuses to wait for an explanation before going off to adventure with Goku. Yamcha is cocky, yes. He's proud, a bit devious in his early appearances, but while I'm not sure I'd say he was deeply in love with Bulma, it's clear the two of them cared about each other, and the whole "Yamcha cheats on Bulma and she runs crying to Vegeta because he's ''so understanding''" scenario has never really rung true. It is a gross disservice to all three characters. It would have been much more believable if it had been written as "Bulma got fed up with Yamcha going off to train all the time and got with Vegeta because, hey, he stays close to home and he's not all bad." And furthermore, it's also just... not very ''like'' Toriyama. It actually sounds really out of place in a series like ''Dragon Ball''.
 
== Dr. Briefs and his wife are actually [[Panty and& Stocking Withwith Garterbelt (Anime)|Brief and Panty]]. ==
It'd be hilarious if it was true, after all, Bulma's mother DOES look a bit like a curly-haired Panty, not to mention Dr. Briefs' name. Bulma's hair color (taking in consideration the manga, where it's purple)? Comes from her mother's side. After all, her possible aunt Stocking has a weird hair color which can only be defined as upper-purple/lower-pink... She was conceived when Panty still was powerless, explaining why she doesn't have any outstanding angel powers... But still explaining why she's resistant (and convincing) enough to go to bed with Vegeta. There, I think I created the craziest theory WMG could ever have.
 
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== Namekians are related to [[Martian Manhunter|the Martians]] of [[The DCU|the DC Universe]]. ==
Okay, so this is probably spawned from my intense appreciation of these two characters and lack of sleep, but whatever. As a lot of people on the internet (and pretty much anyone ever) have seemed to
 
== Ginyu actually survived the Namek saga. ==
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* Actually, that was just the early Funimation/Ocean dub.
 
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