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[[File:dainty june on stage 3556.jpg|link=Gypsy|frame|Behind this child actor is a fame-hungry parent.]]
{{quote|''"I've always dreamed of becoming an actress. [[Suspiciously Specific Denial|That's not why I'm pushing Olivia to do it]]. [[Lampshade Hanging|Is it suspicious that I brought that up unprovoked]]?"''
|'''Olivia's mother''', ''[[Family Guy]]''}}
Sometimes parents really want their kids to become child stars. However, they tend to [[Wag the Director|interfere in the actual work]], causing problems [[What an Idiot!|in the very works they want to make their children stars]]. Often they can help their kids start successful careers, but in fiction, it's very rare.
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{{examples}}
== Fictional examples ==
* Happened with Kohane's mother in ''[[
▲=== Anime & Manga ===
* Onpu Segawa's mother from ''[[Ojamajo Doremi]]'' is a milder version of the trope, as she ''does'' care for Onpu somewhat more than the typical Stage Mom but still pushes her to be an [[Idol Singer]] like she used to be ''and'' is often out working when she should be with Onpu.
▲* Happened with Kohane's mother in ''[[xxxHolic]]'', who pushes her young girl to appear on television specials, even when the girl is clearly uncomfortable and only wants her mother's affection.
▲* Onpu Segawa's mother from ''[[Ojamajo Doremi]]'' is a milder version of the trope, as she ''does'' care for Onpu somewhat more than the typical Stage Mom but still pushes her to be an [[Idol Singer]] like she used to be ''and'' is often out working when she should be with Onpu. {{spoiler|When poor Onpu falls into a [[Convenient Coma]] after using her power against the rules too frequently, Mrs. Segawa has an [[Heroic BSOD]] and blames herself heavily, thinking she pushed Onpu too much towards success and caused her to collapse.}}
** Haruka Harukaze, Doremi's [[Tsundere]] mother and an ex-pianist who lost her career due to a [[Game-Breaking Injury]], was close to become one. When little Doremi showed some degree of musical talent, she tried to shape her into a good pianist, but [[Heroic BSOD|Doremi panicked when on-stage]] and Haruka didn't insist. [[My Greatest Failure|She felt so guilty about it]] that when Doremi's little sister Poppu wanted her mom to teach her how to play, it took both her ''and'' Doremi's efforts to convince her.
* Subverted by Miyata's father in ''[[Hajime no Ippo]]''. While his son Ichiro took up boxing few after Miyata-san's forceful retirement, it was because of Miyata's own will and not because his dad pressured him to do it, and father and son care for each other very much.
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{{quote|'''Sara:''' Remember this... a kid is not a parent's doll. }}
* Sawakita's father in ''[[Slam Dunk]]'' looks like this a little, but he's actually an aversion since he does truly care for Sawakita himself.
* In ''[[Speed Grapher]]''{{'}}s first episode, a young would-be ballerina and her stage mom visit the ballet dancer Kazuya Shirogane in his camerino so the girl can show off her dancing skills and become his pupil. Shirogane turns out to be an Euphoric, [[Kick the Dog|and ends up breaking the girl's arm]] while screaming [[Madness Mantra|"Not flexible! Not flexible! NOT FLEXIBLE"]]. [[Nightmare Fuel|AAAAHHHHH!!!]]
*
* Averted utterly by Kurata Misako, Sana's mother in ''[[Kodomo no Omocha]]''. Sana is about as close to a [[Free-Range Children|Free-Range Child]] as a well-known child star can get, because Mama is ''very'' hands-off and trusts agent/babysitter Rei to handle anything that comes up. Mama is also about six inches short of being a full-bore [[Cloudcuckoolander]]...
=== Comic Books ===
* The original Silk Spectre from ''[[Watchmen (comics)|Watchmen]]'' coached her daughter to [[Legacy Character|take up her profession]].
* Bonnie Jones nee King, Cissie Jones-King (aka Arrowette)'s mother from ''[[Young Justice (comics)|Young Justice]]'' in [[The DCU]], was a superhero stage mother, pushing her daughter into becoming a superhero because of her own frustrated ambitions. In issue #7, this angered Wonder Girl's mother, who has the exact opposite attitude towards her daughter Cassie's heroics. She called out Bonnie on caring more about fame than her daughter's safety, asking whether she even knew that Arrowette had recently{{when}} taken an arrow through the shoulder. This resulted in a [[Cat Fight]].
** It was also pointed out around that time that the costume that Bonnie had made for Cissie was more flashy than functional, and didn't protect her very well (several iterations of it were a sparkly, girly mini-dress). Arrowette's costume change to a more sensible one (yes, the bare midriff was ''more sensible'' than what she had on before) was supposed to signify that Bonnie had backed off.
** Nightwing chewed that mom out too (he had showed up at the parents conference for Tim).
* The recent{{when}} ''[[Doctor Strange|Strange]]'' miniseries had a plot that involved pageant mothers actually making deals with a ''demon'' in order to secure a win. As one would expect, and because the demon was a huge cheater who decided he didn't have to adhere to the rules of magic, this backfired horribly. As for the pageant itself when it was shown, more than a few readers who'd been in or been involved with pageants noted that yes, some of the adults at those things really are that scary.
* [[Calvin and Hobbes|Calvin]] once asked his father if he was attempting to live vicariously through Calvin to make up for his own failures in life. His father shot back that if he was, [[Stealth Insult|he'd be trying a lot harder]]. Calvin manages to deduce his father's disrespect.▼
* Striker of ''[[Avengers Academy]]'' had a mother like this who gave him his drive to be famous.
▲=== Films ===
* ''[[Gypsy]]''. See "Theatre"
* In ''[[Beaches]]'', there were some stage mothers as well.
* Arguably, Violet's mother in the 2005 version of ''[[Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (film)|Charlie and The Chocolate Factory]]''. We don't see her interacting with (or even acknowledging the existence of) the other kids or parents, but she keeps pushing Violet and plays up to a very indifferent Willy.
* ''[[The Positively True Adventures of the Alleged Texas Cheerleader-Murdering Mom]]'' and ''[[Willing to Kill: The Texas Cheerleader Story]]'', two movies about the same real-life Stage Mom, [[wikipedia:Wanda Holloway|Wanda Holloway]]. (See the Real Life section, below.) The first one had Holly Hunter playing said mom.
* ''[[Little Miss Sunshine]]'' was all over this. Not with the family itself, but when they get to the pagent and see the other contestants and their families.
* Velma Von Tussle in ''[[Hairspray]]'', who, among other things, tries to {{spoiler|switch the votes for Miss Teenage Hairspray and before that, attempt to seduce Tracy's dad to get her kicked off.}}
* Kim Cattrall's character in ''[[Ice Princess]]'', in a rare semi-sympathetic example.
* Kirstie Alley's character in the black comedy ''[[Drop Dead Gorgeous (film)|Drop Dead Gorgeous]]'' takes it to the biggest extremes, as she's determined to have her daughter Rebecca (played by Denise Richards) win every single contest she's in by sabotaging them. {{spoiler|The kid finally ends up ''dead''... when her mom lights up fireworks placed under a swan float she's in.}}
* Male example
{{quote|"Andrew! You've got to be NUMBER ONE! I won't tolerate any losers in this family! WIN, WIN WIN!"}}
* Another male example, but less exaggerated: Troy's father and basketball coach from ''[[High School Musical]]''.
* Erica Sayers of ''[[Black Swan]]'', the [[My Beloved Smother|smothering mother]] of the main character, who has a lot of issues.
* Doris Finsecker's mother in the original 1980 ''[[Fame]]'' seems to be the only reason Doris is even auditioning for the High School of the Performing Arts, and has Doris try out for multiple departments, in the hope that ''one'' will stick. And when [[Shrinking Violet]] Doris finally starts coming out of her shell and takes control of her life, Mama Finsecker almost loses it.
=== Literature ===
* An [[Moral Event Horizon|appalling]] example in ''[[The Godfather]]'': one mother is clearly
* In [[James Joyce]]'s ''[[Dubliners]]'', the short story " A Mother" reads this way today. At the time, given the limited career opportunities for women, it's more an example of an [[Unbuilt Trope]].
* In the young adult novel ''[[Virtuosity (novel)|Virtuosity]]'' by Jessica Martinez, Carmen's mother Diana is an example of this. Diana is a former opera singer who gets throat cancer and can no longer sing. Diana instead ends up living vicariously through Carmen, a violin prodigy. In the end, {{spoiler|Diana ends up bribing the judges in a competition(in which the prize is a priceless violin and a concert series) so that Carmen's only worthy opponent doesn't make it past the semifinals.}}
* A minor character in ''[[Elemental Masters|The Gates of Sleep]]'' is a child chess prodigy, whose father drove him into a breakdown by pushing the kid into more and more public exhibition games.
=== Live-Action TV ===
* Spoofed in the [[Nickelodeon]] show ''[[Roundhouse]]''—the main character had a bitchy rival in a talent or other competition, and in response to his "What do you have that I don't?" she brought out her stage mother. There was a pretty kickass song that went with it—the only lyrics I half-remember were, "You'll be gettin' my claws if I don't hear that applause! Stage motherrrrrr!"
** Someone transcribed the song, which was called (appropriately enough) "Stage Mother" and was written by Buddy Sheffield. The lyrics—mirrored from a now defunct Geocities site—can be found [http://www.oocities.org/pennyme768/stagemother.html here].
* There was one of these as a recurring sketch on ''[[Little Britain]]''
* An early ''[[Law and Order]]'' episode, "
{{quote|'''Patricia Blaine:'''
'''Phil Cerreta:'''
'''Patricia Blaine:'''
* There's a "What if" episode of ''[[Desperate Housewives]]'' in which Gabrielle pushes her youngest daughter to become a child star despite her absolutely sucking at it. It ends up with wasting both their lives and her husband and other daughter leaving them
* All of the mothers on ''[[Dance Moms]]''.
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'''Dick''': Because it's important that you experience the humiliation of adolescent boys at the hands of bitter adults trying to re-write the failures of their youth. It'll be fun! }}
* Averted for the most part on ''[[Make It or Break It]]''. Kelly's mom, Kaylie's father, and Lauren's father fit this trope, but the other parents of the main cast are properly supportive without being pushy.
=== Music ===
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* [[Noel Coward]]'s "(Don't Put Your Daughter On The Stage,) Mrs. Worthington" is addressed to a stage mother whose aspirations are greater than her daughter's potential.
=== Newspaper Comics ===
▲* ''[[Calvin and Hobbes
=== Professional Wrestling ===
* [[World Wrestling Entertainment|WWE]]'s Jack Swagger has the [[Gimmick]] of an overachieving child with a Stage Dad, now all grown up and determined to find the same success in wrestling. In order to [[Moral Event Horizon|completely cement him]] as a [[Dirty Coward]], Swagger ran away while Kane beat up his father - and then justified it afterward by saying he felt vindicated for his father being an overbearing Stage Dad.
* This happened quite often when wrestling promoters had sons. It was desirable to build a promotion around men who would be loyal to you, and family was usually that. The most notorious wrestling stage dad would probably be Fritz Von Erich, given the fate of most of his six sons.<ref>he outlived all but ''one'' of them.</ref>
* Bonnie Blood, ex-wife of Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat, took increasing control of his career from 1988 on, even to the point where she got control of his stage name in the divorce settlement.
=== Theater ===
* ''[[Gypsy]]''
* Mrs. Walker from ''[[Once in a Lifetime]]'' has elements of this, even though she causes relatively little harm in the course of her championing her daughter Susan.
* ''[[Phantom of the Opera
* In ''[[Coriolanus]]'', the titular character's mother, Volumnia, pushed him into a military career from his childhood, enforcing on him the notion that he should do everything on his power to ensure fame and honor for himself in the eyes of Roma's populace. [[Gone Horribly Right|It worked a bit too well.]]
* Gloria's mother from ''[[Psychonauts]]'' who screwed her life over
▲=== Videogames ===
▲* Gloria's mother from ''[[Psychonauts]]'' who screwed her life over TWICE. First time was dumping her at Hagatha's Home For Girls where she was forced to sing, dance and act. The second time was when she became famous as a worldwide sensation and her greatest performance was marred by {{spoiler|a letter informing her that her mother had committed suicide, which drove Gloria into pure schizophrenic madness.}}
** To be fair, Gloria's mother didn't hate her and did try to send letters of love to her, but {{spoiler|they were being constantly destroyed by her bastard of a husband.}}
* ''[[Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney]]'': |Morgan Fey
▲=== Webcomics ===
* Parodied in an ''[[Achewood]]'' [http://achewood.com/index.php?date=03312003 guest strip] with Philippe's mother. "Please Mommy not the BUCKLE MOMMY NOT THE BUCKLE!!"
* While not as bad as some of the other mothers mentioned here, Ash of ''[[Misfile]]'' was pressured into showing off a dress by his/her mother, who also repeatedly asked Ash to do some modelling, though she would back off when Ash said no.
** Also the characters of Jenny senior and Jenny junior from an early story arc.
* ''[[Better Days]]'' talks about the problems of little girls pressured into [http://www.jaynaylor.com/betterdays/archives/2007/06/chapter-18-reac-23.html child pageants] by their mothers.
=== Western Animation ===
* Beebee Bluff's mother on ''[[Doug]]'' was a stage mother for one episode, but at the end, Beebee was able to call her out on it and her mother quickly saw the error of her ways.
* Helga's parents in ''[[Hey Arnold!]]'' [[Parental Neglect|neglect Helga's needs]] and [[Parental Favoritism|shower her sister Olga with attention]]... but they get to ''this'' extreme. Bob is so demanding in regards to Olga's intellectual and artistic talents and puts so much pressure on her that Olga is now a neurotic [[Fragile Flower]] who panics horribly at the mere prospect of getting a B grade, to the degree that she thinks ''Helga'' is the one who has it easier of the two since she can do whatever she wants and their parents won't say anything.
* In ''[[The Grim Adventures of Billy
{{quote|'''Mom 1''': Remember this is mommy's big day.
'''Mom 2''': The bigger you smile the more beautiful mommy looks.
'''Mom 3''': Baby it's time to win mommy's love. }}
* Rare man example in ''[[The Simpsons (animation)|The Simpsons]]'' where Homer managers Lisa in a talent contest, bullying everybody behind the scenes to get the best for her.
** A much earlier episode subverted this trope when Homer signed Lisa up for a beauty pageant. Homer didn't do it for any personal glory, but instead because Lisa was feeling insecure about her looks and he thought it would help her self-esteem. [[And It Worked]]!
* Susan Dinwittie from ''[[
** What really makes it sad is her third child, [[The Unfavorite]] genius {{spoiler|engineer who thought she was spending time with him and asking about his projects in a possibly forced attempt to get to know him and have him feel like he was still valued. Nope
* In ''[[Steven Universe]]'', Sadie's mom gets into this trope every time Sadie shows inclination towards any sport or performing activity. The thing is, she's not malicious and isn't trying to live vicariously through her daughter, she legitimately wants people to see how wonderful and talented Sadie is. The problem is that Sadie only tries those activities in search of personal enjoyment, and every time her mom gets to treat any of Sadie's interests as [[Serious Business]] and becomes a full mom-manager driven to get her to excel in said activity only gets Sadie to tire and lose interest on it very quickly no matter how much she liked it. Even worse, because she knew her mom didn't have any ill intent, she couldn't truly express her displeasure until Steven intervened and encouraged her to do so.
== [[Real Life]] examples ==
=== General ===
* Successful entertainers who have children typically wind up getting accused of this if their children follow them into showbiz.
=== Acting ===
* Minnie Marx, mother of the [[Marx Brothers]]. It was [[Tropes Are Not Bad|mainly her hard work]] that ever got them recognition in [[Vaudeville]] before their breakthrough. It helps that her children were already adults who has gotten into entertainment by themselves and were trying to breakout when she got involved.
*
* In ''[[Star Trek]] IV'', Sulu (George Takei) was meant to have a chance encounter, while walking around 20th-century San Francisco, with a kid who would turn out to be his ancestor. Unfortunately, the kid who was to play the part had what Shatner described (in ''Star Trek Movie Memories'') as "the most over-the-top stage mom" he had ever encountered, and she ended up making her kid so stressed out that she made it effectively impossible to actually film the scenes.
* Nearly all of Macaulay Culkin's Hollywood burnout can be attributed to his father/manager, Kit Culkin. To give an example, one of the reasons Macaulay
* [[Judy Garland]]'s mother came about as straight up abusive. She tended to punish her by locking Judy inside of closets, and later suggested to studio executives to do the same if the girl ever acted up. She also kept feeding her pills to keep her weight and increase her productivity. This ended up ''very'' badly, with Garland becoming a barely functional addict, marrying numerous times, and dying at 57 while looking way older than that.
* Dina and Michael Lohan, parents of [[Lindsay Lohan]], are exemplars of the self-serving side of this trope. Dina took Lindsay to nightclubs and let her drink when she was underage, then used her daughter's personal troubles to launch her own career in entertainment, getting herself a reality show on [[E!]]. Then, she pushed her younger daughter Ali to enter showbiz as well, causing many people to fear that Ali will end up with as many or more problems thanks to her mother. Michael, meanwhile, blabs about Lindsay to the media every chance he gets, and went on ''Celebrity Rehab'' for seemingly no other reason then to get attention and talk about her.
** [[Robot Chicken|"Could you make the check out to cash? It's my nickname for her..."]]
* In a
** It would have been worse if the mother was familiar with ''SMBC Theater'', since most of the material is not safe for kids. This is why they always have adults kneeling when they have children in the sketches.
* [[Drew Barrymore]]'s mother Jaid could be blamed in large part for her daughter's drug and alcohol problems at such a young age. Jaid regularly took young Drew to such adult hangouts like Studio 54 and the China Club, using the fame of the kid to be granted acess. Years later,
* [[Hilary Duff]]'s parents are said to be the reason why the ''[[Lizzie McGuire]]'' franchise was cancelled after [[The Movie]]. Basically they got too greedy, trying to get an extra fee of $500,000 for Hillary if the movie surpassed $50 million gross, even when she has already received a substantial pay and Disney offered her a salary of $4 million to star in a second film plus 25% of the profit. Her mother's insistence of the $500,000 being paid upfront instead caused the whole deal to fall off.
* More than one similar accusation has been leveled at Billy Ray Cyrus ([[Miley Cyrus]]' father and co-star) in regards to the ''[[Hannah Montana]]'' franchise. Billy Ray says it's the other way round: that the executives were the ones abusing and restraining Miley. Then again, he's also blamed atheists for the same thing. [[Cloudcuckoolander|Billy Ray might just be cuckoo.]]
* [[Thora Birch]]'s father (Jack Birch, a former porn star) has meddled in his daughter's affairs enough that he's caused a hit to her reputation. He reportedly showed up on set during production of the 2007 film
** Thora was also
** Equally distressing, Thora doesn't appear fazed by her dad's behavior, nor is she upset that he has cost her work. After she was fired from ''Dracula
* [[Will Smith]] and Jada Pinkett-Smith have been accused of pushing their children into showbiz at too early an age. Their son [[Jaden Smith|Jaden]] is an actor (best known for
* [[Brooke Shields]]' mother Teri was infamous for this well into her daughter's 20s.
* [[Natalie Wood]], who played the above mentioned ''Gypsy'' on the big screen, had her own real Mama Rose in her mother Maria, who was extremely determined to make her daughter a star no matter the cost. According to at least one biography, Maria would do stuff like killing a butterfly in front of her distressed child in order to make her to cry on camera on scenes that required it.
* Deliberately averted with [[Mara Wilson]], as her parents impressed on her the importance of education and whose attitude towards their child's career was "well, if you don't find it fun anymore you can always retire and we won't held it against you". As a result, Mara is more level-headed than most [[Former Child Star]]s and even wrote [http://www.cracked.com/blog/7-reasons-child-stars-go-crazy-an-insiders-perspective/ an article] on [[Cracked.com]] about the reasons of the crash and burn of those kids. Said article mentions this trope as one of the reasons, and she recalled having work with a child that was the breadwinner for his whole family.
* Walt Disney also wanted to avoid this trope when he created ''[[The Mickey Mouse Club]]''. He deliberately went to cast amateur children with talent instead of professional child actors, and then went to set up a separate room for their mothers to read, knit or relax specifically to keep them off during filming.
* [[Taylor Momsen]] has [https://web.archive.org/web/20130913153610/http://www.popeater.com/2010/11/12/taylor-momsen-childhood/ accused her parents] of being this. She allegedly was pushed into modeling by her mother at seven, and then she was overworked in modeling and acting gigs to burnout levels. This may explain her transformation from a [[Gossip Girl|teen soap]] star to a raunchy, scantily-clad rock frontwoman [[Jail Bait|before she turned 18]]. Momsen is now very active in her music career and doesn't seem that interested in going back into acting.▼
* Jackie Coogan, the first child star, whose parents exploited him financially to the point that they left him penniless due to their mismanagement of his earnings. The [[wikipedia:Coogan Act|Coogan Act]], created in 1939 and one of the first legal instruments designed to prevent parents from siphoning out the money their performer children made, was named and created after his case.
* The failure of ''[[Galactica 1980]]'' was attributed to a mixture of [[Executive Meddling]] and this trope. The Executives' insistence on adding [[Kid Appeal Character]]s -- interpreted by [[Kids and Cute Robots|actual children]] -- bit them in the butt when said children brought with them their respective Stage Moms, whose interference in the production poisoned the already fragile working environment so much everybody just gave up and instead directed their efforts to have the series canceled as soon as they could.
* Jennette McCurdy, better known as Sam Puckett from ''[[iCarly]]'', was forced into acting at six by her very pushy mother, who made her work as the main breadwinner of the family and controlled every aspect of the poor girl's career. McCurdy eventually became very vocal on how much she hated acting and despised most of the characters she played, and she abandoned that career soon after her mother's death in 2013, moving into writing and directing. That her 2022 autobiography is titled "I'm Glad That My Mom Is Dead" and the cover depicts her with an funerary urn full of confetti says everything about her feelings over her late mom.
* Downplayed by Melissa Joan Hart's mother Paula, who, while getting her into acting at a very young age, she was following Melissa's own interest on acting. She also tried to keep her into age appropriate roles and image: she opposed letting young Melissa get her eyebrows plucked and wear more makeup for ''[[Clarissa Explains It All]]'', and made the strategic choice of not letting Melissa accept adult roles after that series ended on the perception that the girl's popularity among the teenage demographics could be better used. This plan paid off with Melissa's next role as the title character of ''[[Sabrina the Teenage Witch (TV series)|Sabrina the Teenage Witch]]'', which catapulted her into stardom.
* [[Will Wheaton]] was subject to completely abusive parents, who not only forced him to work 12 hours daily despite him being a minor and even retorted to gaslighting him into accepting roles by telling him that the offers they wanted him to accept were the only ones he was being offered, they were absolutely dismissive of his increasing depression and addictions and spent over $100.000 of his earnings on themselves. It's very telling that he claims that his ''[[Star Trek: The Next Generation]]'' costars (and specially his onscreen mom) are his true family.
=== Music ===
* [[Britney Spears]]' mother Lynne pushed her and her sister Jamie Lynn to become stars. [[Break the Cutie|You know how this ended
* Joe Simpson, father of [[Jessica Simpson|Jessica]] and [[Ashlee Simpson|Ashlee]]. Nick Lachey, Jessica's former husband, implied that the meddling of his father-in-law over her career and life played no small role in their eventual breakup and divorce. Also notice how both women's musical careers stalled and faded after they distanced from him in the 2010s, with Jessica getting into business ventures and dedicating her time to her family with her second husband and Ashlee becoming a Broadway musical actress.
* [[Michael Jackson|Joe]] [[Janet Jackson|Jackson]] really, really didn't want [[The Jackson 5ive|his kids]] to become criminals on the streets of Gary, Indiana. He probably could have found a better way to do this, however. All the Jackson children have complained about their father being openly abusive whenever they didn't perform or rehearse to his standards, and discouraged them from having any interests outside show business.
** [[Michael Jackson|Michael]] was the worst victim of the trope. Due to being the youngest son, he was basically deprived of a childhood and spent all of his formative years rehearsing and performing under the [[Abusive Parents|heavy hand]] of his father. This, in turn, may have been the main reason of Michael's eccentricities in later life that in turn led him to acquire both infamy as a [[Memetic Molester]] and an early death. For worse, Joe not only used his son's funeral to promote some personal projects of his, he also hinted that he wanted to push Michael's kids into show business too...
** It says something about Joe Jackson's controlling nature that his daughter [[Janet Jackson|Janet]] couldn't find success until she ditched him and associated with two other, less controlling producers to record a [[New Sound Album]].
* [[The Beach Boys]] suffered through years of dreadful stage-fathering. [[wikipedia:Murry Wilson|Murry Wilson]], father of Brian, Carl and Dennis Wilson, was a mildly successful songwriter/producer who, for their first few years, acted as manager, producer, and publisher to the group. Among other questionable practices and decisions, he allegedly whacked Brian Wilson in the head with a 2x4, causing hearing damage. ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20101003032225/http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg
* Mexican singer [[wikipedia:Luis Miguel|Luis Miguel]]'s father and manager, Luisito Rey (real name Luis Gallego Sanchez). Rey was a singer himself with a failed career, when he discovered the talent of his eldest son. The guy was very bent into making his precocious kid a star (which, according to Luis Miguel's biographical series in [[Netflix]], included giving him stimulants to keep him productive, forcing the boy with stay with him after Rey divorced his mother, and even making the lady to disappear under mysterious circumstances when she began to protest too much), and given how much of a [[Teen Idol]] superstar the kid was during the Eighties you can argue he succeeded... only for Luis Miguel to dump him when he got of age just to escape his incredibly controlling ways. Rey eventually succumbed to alcoholism and died of cirrhosis in 1992, a few years after his firing.
* [[w:The Shaggs|The Shaggs]], a band
▲* [[Taylor Momsen]] has [http://www.popeater.com/2010/11/12/taylor-momsen-childhood/ accused her parents] of being this. This may explain her transformation from a [[Gossip Girl|teen soap]] star to a raunchy, scantily-clad rock frontwoman [[Jail Bait|before she turned 18]].
*
* [[Beyoncé]]'s father, Mathew Knowles, has been pointed as the reason behind the dissolution of his daughter's previous group, [[Destiny's Child]], due to a mix of being a stage dad and having incredibly bad business sense. Beyoncé herself has had a very tenuous relationship with him since she began her solo career.
* [[Backstreet Boys|Nick]] and Aaron Carter's careers were ruined by their stage parents, who blew their earnings and settled them in profound debt. Nick managed to cut them off and bounced back with his group, but Aaron, who has a solo career and acquired a drug problem on the road, was forced to cut off his parents at 18 before he was completely drained up, and still he had to file bankruptcy in 2013 at age 25, eventually dying at 34 in 2022. The same parents tried to push out a singing career for Nick and Aaron's sister Leslie, without any success; all she got from their trouble was an addiction to psychiatric meds, which ended killing her at age 25 in 2012.
* Endemic in the [[Classical Music]] world, where any parent who notices their children can press piano keys or play some instrument with any accuracy immediately tries to promote them as "young prodigies", to the extent that most parents who can make their children to take piano classes when they are toddlers take the chance, even if there is no actual expectation of statehood or talent, because everyone in that camp, prodigy or not, begin ''just that young'' and beginning later even when talented puts them in disadvantage. It has come to the point that in many music schools some kind of practices (like making children sing opera, a genre that is taxing to even adult larynges) are actively discouraged despite the parents' protests in order to protect the child's future career.
** If you search on the classic composers between the XVIII and XIX centuries you can find that a number of them began as young prodigies, pushed into playing and singing at an early age at their parent wishes. The most archetypal example is [[Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart]] and his sister Maria Anna touring Europe as a piano and violin duet under their (also a renowned musician) father Leonard's tutelage. In fact, the "Child Prodigy" trope is so ubiquitous that it comes as a surprise that some famous composers like Richard Wagner and Johannes Brahms didn't begin to write music until their middle age (Mozart himself didn't hit his stride until his twenties).
* The founder and manager of teen [[Boy Band]] Menudo averted this by forcing the parents of his talent to sign him over their parental rights, so he could get full control over the boys without any pesky parental interference. Probably because early on he encountered a subversion of this trope: one father who travelled with the group went on full stage dad controlling mode... to make sure that his son and his group mates were adequately fed and took regular breaks, which went against the manager wish of keeping the group constantly training and working.
* Averted by [[Ringo Starr]], who after his own experiences as both part of [[The Beatles (band)|The Beatles]] and as a solo act, for a long time tried to discourage his son Zak Starkey from getting into music. Instead, Zak was encouraged to become a drummer by his godfather [[Keith Moon]].
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* [[wikipedia:Wanda Holloway|Wanda Holloway]], the woman who inspired ''[[The Positively True Adventures of the Alleged Texas Cheerleader-Murdering Mom]]'' and ''[[Willing to Kill: The Texas Cheerleader Story]]''. She asked her brother
* Watch any show about child pageants. All the moms and more than one dad shown there will be like this, more often than not, to ''sickening'' degrees. This is the whole point of the
** One particularly sickening example is the story of [https://web.archive.org/web/20130830102749/http://www.monstersandcritics.com/lifestyle/consumerhealth/news/article_1639085.php/Plastic-Surgeon-slams-Pageant-Mom-8-year-old-getting-Botox-story-repugnant Kerry Campbell], who gave her ''eight-year-old daughter Botox injections''. When she was found out, she not only defended this practice (claiming it was never too early get your child cosmetic surgery to "get rid of the lines"), but also claimed that ''other'' pageant moms practiced this as well. The fact that the story turned out to be fake [[The Tyson Zone|did nothing to dispel it]].
** One 5-year-old girl named Carley developed an alter-ego called Darla to cope with her mom's pushing.{{verify}}
** Whenever ''[[The Soup]]'' had to cover these shows, its host Joel McHale threw his most pointed barbs. At one point he compared one of the parents that appeared in ''Dance Moms'' with Chronos, the Greek Titan who devoured his children, in a way that make Chronos the ''better'' parent in comparison!
* George Sampson, the winner of ''[[Britain's Got Talent]]'' in 2008, should have had a very promising career after his victory in the show. Unfortunately, his career was run into the ground in less than a year, in no small part due to his obnoxious and extremely demanding mother, who was largely responsible for Simon Cowell's company ditching Sampson after they became sick of her. Sampson is making a rebound, however, as he has starred in the film ''Street Dance''.
* Rose Hovick, mother of burlesque star Gypsy Rose Lee and actress June Havoc. She became legendary for this trope following Gypsy's 1957 autobiography and the subsequent musical adaptation ''[[Gypsy (theatre)|Gypsy]]'' as mentioned above.
* A bizarre version of this was the infamous case of [[w:FamilyOFive|''Daddyoffive'']], a [[YouTube]] channel where the parents [[Abusive Parents|did cruel and outright abusive "pranks" on their children]] and then uploaded the videos [["Just Joking" Justification|as "humorous" ones]]. They monetized their videos and those went very popular, so by the time they were finally investigated and arrested they had made millions by exploiting their children's distress.
▲* [[Brooke Shields]]' mother Teri was infamous for this well into her daughter's 20s. For example, when Brooke joined the [[Princeton Triangle Club]] (a musical theatre troupe) during her freshman year at [[Ivy League|Princeton University]] and earned a small part in their annual revue, Teri Shields swept in and tried to wrest control of the production from the club and its hand-picked team of professionals. The Triangle Club fought her to a standstill, but still had to cope with her attempts to direct publicity and make it appear that the production was essentially ''The Brooke Shields Show'', as well as installing armed guards in the theatre.
* Some people have accused Lynn Johnston, author of ''[[For Better or For Worse]]'', of a variant of this trope, in the sense that while she didn't directly exploited her children the way this trope is traditionally expected, by [[Write Who You Know|incorporating a distressingly high number of their real experiences (ranging from comical to humiliating events) in her work]] she subjected them to [[Muse Abuse]]. As a result, her children were often victims of bullying in school, and as they became older they grew apart from their mother.
* Stage parenting was believed to be the reason behind the tragic case of Peruvian model and entertainer [[w:Mónica Santa María|Mónica Santa María]]. She was pushed into modeling at 7 years old by her mother, over her father's objections, and by the time she became a teenager she was one of the most famous models of her country. In 1990, when she was 17, she became one of the hostesses of ''Nubeluz'', which soon became the biggest children's show in Latin America. She was the most popular among the hostesses, and she stayed in the show until 1994, with a brief retirement of six months in 1993. Unfortunately, she also presented symptoms of bipolar disorder and had frequent bouts of depression that went untreated, which resulted in her suicide in 1994 at the age of 21.
* Kris Jenner, the matriarch of the Kardashian-Jenner cluster of socialites, has been the mom-manager of her children for decades now, and she has been so hellbent to make them famous and monetize their notoriety one way or another that she has gotten the nickname of "Pimp Mother Kris" (PMK for short). At least one journalist has accused her of having leaked the sex tape that make her daughter Kim Kardashian famous, and while she had denied that, she hasn't denied that she took advantage of the notoriety it brought.
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"I've always dreamed of becoming an actress. That's not why I'm pushing Olivia to do it. Is it suspicious that I brought that up unprovoked?" —Olivia's mother, Family Guy
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Sometimes parents really want their kids to become child stars. However, they tend to interfere in the actual work, causing problems in the very works they want to make their children stars. Often they can help their kids start successful careers, but in fiction, it's very rare.
Similar in theme to an Education Mama, but usually presented as more malicious, as she persecutes other people's children as well as being pushy to the point of insanity with her own. She'll often have self-serving reasons for pushing her kids into showbiz (as demonstrated by the above quote), using them to vicariously experience the fame and fortune that she had dreamed of, and possibly being a failed actress or musician herself. In this case, the trope overlaps with Coattail-Riding Relative.
This is almost Always Female for cultural reasons. A man is expected to earn stuff on their own, and if he and his wife are both pushy stage parents the wife is usually the one on the scene to take the blame (see Shirley Temple). But sometimes guys can see their kids accomplishing things they couldn't. When it isn't pushing their kids at sports, it's often this trope.
A variety of Meddling Parent.
Fictional examples
Anime and Manga
- Happened with Kohane's mother in ×××HOLiC, who pushes her young girl to appear on television specials, even when the girl is clearly uncomfortable and only wants her mother's affection.
- Onpu Segawa's mother from Ojamajo Doremi is a milder version of the trope, as she does care for Onpu somewhat more than the typical Stage Mom but still pushes her to be an Idol Singer like she used to be and is often out working when she should be with Onpu. When poor Onpu falls into a Convenient Coma after using her power against the rules too frequently, Mrs. Segawa has an Heroic BSOD and blames herself heavily, thinking she pushed Onpu too much towards success and caused her to collapse.
- Haruka Harukaze, Doremi's Tsundere mother and an ex-pianist who lost her career due to a Game-Breaking Injury, was close to become one. When little Doremi showed some degree of musical talent, she tried to shape her into a good pianist, but Doremi panicked when on-stage and Haruka didn't insist. She felt so guilty about it that when Doremi's little sister Poppu wanted her mom to teach her how to play, it took both her and Doremi's efforts to convince her.
- Subverted by Miyata's father in Hajime no Ippo. While his son Ichiro took up boxing few after Miyata-san's forceful retirement, it was because of Miyata's own will and not because his dad pressured him to do it, and father and son care for each other very much.
- In Charisma Doll Kazuma wants Sara to "follow in her footsteps" and have a chance to be a star. Sara doesn't like being a pop idol, because she feels that her androgynous appearance and voice are nothing but a cheap gimmick to get money.
Sara: Remember this... a kid is not a parent's doll. |
- Sawakita's father in Slam Dunk looks like this a little, but he's actually an aversion since he does truly care for Sawakita himself.
- In Speed Grapher's first episode, a young would-be ballerina and her stage mom visit the ballet dancer Kazuya Shirogane in his camerino so the girl can show off her dancing skills and become his pupil. Shirogane turns out to be an Euphoric, and ends up breaking the girl's arm while screaming "Not flexible! Not flexible! NOT FLEXIBLE". AAAAHHHHH!!!
- Hotohori's mother from Fushigi Yuugi.
- Averted utterly by Kurata Misako, Sana's mother in Kodomo no Omocha. Sana is about as close to a Free-Range Child as a well-known child star can get, because Mama is very hands-off and trusts agent/babysitter Rei to handle anything that comes up. Mama is also about six inches short of being a full-bore Cloudcuckoolander...
Comic Books
- The original Silk Spectre from Watchmen coached her daughter to take up her profession.
- Bonnie Jones nee King, Cissie Jones-King (aka Arrowette)'s mother from Young Justice in The DCU, was a superhero stage mother, pushing her daughter into becoming a superhero because of her own frustrated ambitions. In issue #7, this angered Wonder Girl's mother, who has the exact opposite attitude towards her daughter Cassie's heroics. She called out Bonnie on caring more about fame than her daughter's safety, asking whether she even knew that Arrowette had recently[when?] taken an arrow through the shoulder. This resulted in a Cat Fight.
- It was also pointed out around that time that the costume that Bonnie had made for Cissie was more flashy than functional, and didn't protect her very well (several iterations of it were a sparkly, girly mini-dress). Arrowette's costume change to a more sensible one (yes, the bare midriff was more sensible than what she had on before) was supposed to signify that Bonnie had backed off.
- Nightwing chewed that mom out too (he had showed up at the parents conference for Tim).
- The recent[when?] Strange miniseries had a plot that involved pageant mothers actually making deals with a demon in order to secure a win. As one would expect, and because the demon was a huge cheater who decided he didn't have to adhere to the rules of magic, this backfired horribly. As for the pageant itself when it was shown, more than a few readers who'd been in or been involved with pageants noted that yes, some of the adults at those things really are that scary.
- Striker of Avengers Academy had a mother like this who gave him his drive to be famous.
Film
- Gypsy. See "Theatre"
- In Beaches, there were some stage mothers as well.
- Arguably, Violet's mother in the 2005 version of Charlie and The Chocolate Factory. We don't see her interacting with (or even acknowledging the existence of) the other kids or parents, but she keeps pushing Violet and plays up to a very indifferent Willy.
- The Positively True Adventures of the Alleged Texas Cheerleader-Murdering Mom and Willing to Kill: The Texas Cheerleader Story, two movies about the same real-life Stage Mom, Wanda Holloway. (See the Real Life section, below.) The first one had Holly Hunter playing said mom.
- Little Miss Sunshine was all over this. Not with the family itself, but when they get to the pagent and see the other contestants and their families.
- Velma Von Tussle in Hairspray, who, among other things, tries to switch the votes for Miss Teenage Hairspray and before that, attempt to seduce Tracy's dad to get her kicked off.
- Kim Cattrall's character in Ice Princess, in a rare semi-sympathetic example.
- Kirstie Alley's character in the black comedy Drop Dead Gorgeous takes it to the biggest extremes, as she's determined to have her daughter Rebecca (played by Denise Richards) win every single contest she's in by sabotaging them. The kid finally ends up dead... when her mom lights up fireworks placed under a swan float she's in.
- Male example, Andrew from The Breakfast Club:
"Andrew! You've got to be NUMBER ONE! I won't tolerate any losers in this family! WIN, WIN WIN!" |
- Another male example, but less exaggerated: Troy's father and basketball coach from High School Musical.
- Erica Sayers of Black Swan, the smothering mother of the main character, who has a lot of issues.
- Doris Finsecker's mother in the original 1980 Fame seems to be the only reason Doris is even auditioning for the High School of the Performing Arts, and has Doris try out for multiple departments, in the hope that one will stick. And when Shrinking Violet Doris finally starts coming out of her shell and takes control of her life, Mama Finsecker almost loses it.
Literature
- An appalling example in The Godfather: one mother is clearly pleased that producer Jack Woltz sexually molested her twelve-year-old daughter, apparently because this makes it more likely he'll give the little girl a role in one of his movies.
- In James Joyce's Dubliners, the short story " A Mother" reads this way today. At the time, given the limited career opportunities for women, it's more an example of an Unbuilt Trope.
- In the young adult novel Virtuosity by Jessica Martinez, Carmen's mother Diana is an example of this. Diana is a former opera singer who gets throat cancer and can no longer sing. Diana instead ends up living vicariously through Carmen, a violin prodigy. In the end, Diana ends up bribing the judges in a competition(in which the prize is a priceless violin and a concert series) so that Carmen's only worthy opponent doesn't make it past the semifinals.
- A minor character in The Gates of Sleep is a child chess prodigy, whose father drove him into a breakdown by pushing the kid into more and more public exhibition games.
Live-Action TV
- Spoofed in the Nickelodeon show Roundhouse—the main character had a bitchy rival in a talent or other competition, and in response to his "What do you have that I don't?" she brought out her stage mother. There was a pretty kickass song that went with it—the only lyrics I half-remember were, "You'll be gettin' my claws if I don't hear that applause! Stage motherrrrrr!"
- Someone transcribed the song, which was called (appropriately enough) "Stage Mother" and was written by Buddy Sheffield. The lyrics—mirrored from a now defunct Geocities site—can be found here.
- There was one of these as a recurring sketch on Little Britain; she would sabotage other kids' chances and even harm them to get her son even a minor part.
- An early Law and Order episode, "Aria", shows one of these mothers. Her obsession with living through her children had already driven her older daughter away, and she pushed her younger daughter into porn, hoping that would help her land bigger roles. The younger daughter commits suicide out of despair.
Patricia Blaine: My mother couldn't decide whether I was Martha Graham or Helen Hayes. |
- There's a "What if" episode of Desperate Housewives in which Gabrielle pushes her youngest daughter to become a child star despite her absolutely sucking at it. It ends up with wasting both their lives and her husband and other daughter leaving them
- All of the mothers on Dance Moms.
- Natalie Teeger on Monk becomes one of these briefly. In one episode, her daughter's performance is given a negative review by a critic (who later turns out to be the murderer) and Natalie becomes obsessed with proving him wrong.
- Kamen Rider Double had a story arc where the Monster of the Week, with power over aging, sells his services to people. One Stage Mom hires him to turn her daughter's rival into an old woman; when the victim's mother finds out, she hires him to do the same to the first woman's daughter as revenge. Of course, the two little girls saw one another as friends, not rivals, and the sight of the two of them huddled together and crying as their mothers shouted at one another triggered a My God, What Have I Done? moment.
- An episode of In the Heat of the Night showed a young woman entering a local beauty pageant. Her Rich Bitch mother was so determined that she win that she arranged for someone to drug the girl's chief rival, take nude pictures of her, then threaten to leak the photos to the press unless the girl dropped out of the pageant. The girl was so devastated and traumatized by the entire thing that she killed herself. To make matters worse, the two girls were friends and would have been genuinely happy for each other had the other won. The young woman is so angry and disgusted by her mother's actions that when she does win, she storms off the stage and flings her crown and sash at her mother, snarling, "You wanted it so badly, here it is!", and storms out of the auditorium and presumably out of her mother's life.
- Dinosaurs had Fran becoming one of these when Baby became a big star in frying pan commercials. It took a calling out from her best friend Monica and her husband Earl as well as a bad dream about Baby as an adult that made her realize what she was doing was wrong.
- The sports version is invoked and lampshaded on 3rd Rock from the Sun when Dick decides Tommy should play basketball:
Tommy: Why? |
- Averted for the most part on Make It or Break It. Kelly's mom, Kaylie's father, and Lauren's father fit this trope, but the other parents of the main cast are properly supportive without being pushy.
Music
- "[Antichrist Television Blues]" by Arcade Fire concerns a father pushing his daughter into the limelight so that he doesn't have to "work in a building downtown."
- "Perfect" by Alanis Morissette is a satire of this trope.
- Noel Coward's "(Don't Put Your Daughter On The Stage,) Mrs. Worthington" is addressed to a stage mother whose aspirations are greater than her daughter's potential.
Newspaper Comics
- Calvin and Hobbes: Calvin once asked his father if he was attempting to live vicariously through Calvin to make up for his own failures in life. His father shot back that if he was, he'd be trying a lot harder. Calvin manages to deduce his father's disrespect.
Professional Wrestling
- WWE's Jack Swagger has the Gimmick of an overachieving child with a Stage Dad, now all grown up and determined to find the same success in wrestling. In order to completely cement him as a Dirty Coward, Swagger ran away while Kane beat up his father - and then justified it afterward by saying he felt vindicated for his father being an overbearing Stage Dad.
- This happened quite often when wrestling promoters had sons. It was desirable to build a promotion around men who would be loyal to you, and family was usually that. The most notorious wrestling stage dad would probably be Fritz Von Erich, given the fate of most of his six sons.[1]
- Bonnie Blood, ex-wife of Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat, took increasing control of his career from 1988 on, even to the point where she got control of his stage name in the divorce settlement.
Theater
- Gypsy's Mama Rose is the epitome of this trope. She obsessively worked her two daughters into her vaudeville acts, highlighting Baby June (who ended up running away and eloping) and downplaying Louise (who ended up becoming more successful than her sister as the stripper Gypsy Rose Lee). Mama Rose went as far as to have multiple 10th birthday parties to try to trick her daughters into thinking they were indefinitely 10 years old so she could continue to milk them for all they were worth. The worst part? She was a real person.
- Mrs. Walker from Once in a Lifetime has elements of this, even though she causes relatively little harm in the course of her championing her daughter Susan.
- Phantom of the Opera: Madame Giry becomes one for Meg in Love Never Dies
- In Coriolanus, the titular character's mother, Volumnia, pushed him into a military career from his childhood, enforcing on him the notion that he should do everything on his power to ensure fame and honor for himself in the eyes of Roma's populace. It worked a bit too well.
Video Games
- Gloria's mother from Psychonauts who screwed her life over twice. First time was dumping her at Hagatha's Home For Girls where she was forced to sing, dance and act. The second time was when she became famous as a worldwide sensation and her greatest performance was marred by a letter informing her that her mother had committed suicide, which drove Gloria into pure schizophrenic madness.
- To be fair, Gloria's mother didn't hate her and did try to send letters of love to her, but they were being constantly destroyed by her bastard of a husband.
- Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: |Morgan Fey, sweet Jesus. Since her power as a channeler is so weak, she was passed over to become head of the Fey family in favor of her younger sister Misty, who was a much stronger medium. This means that her niece Maya is now technically head of the family, and calls all the shots. So naturally, the sane course of action is to... frame Maya for murder so that her eight-year-old daughter Pearl, who Maya declares to be the greatest channeling prodigy the family has yet seen, becomes the head of the clan, thus giving Morgan de facto control for at least the next decade. Only a series of risky gambits by Misty stops this... but it concludes also with Misty's own death. Poor, poor Pearlie.
Web Comics
- Parodied in an Achewood guest strip with Philippe's mother. "Please Mommy not the BUCKLE MOMMY NOT THE BUCKLE!!"
- While not as bad as some of the other mothers mentioned here, Ash of Misfile was pressured into showing off a dress by his/her mother, who also repeatedly asked Ash to do some modelling, though she would back off when Ash said no.
- Also the characters of Jenny senior and Jenny junior from an early story arc.
- Better Days talks about the problems of little girls pressured into child pageants by their mothers.
Western Animation
- Beebee Bluff's mother on Doug was a stage mother for one episode, but at the end, Beebee was able to call her out on it and her mother quickly saw the error of her ways.
- Helga's parents in Hey Arnold! neglect Helga's needs and shower her sister Olga with attention... but they get to this extreme. Bob is so demanding in regards to Olga's intellectual and artistic talents and puts so much pressure on her that Olga is now a neurotic Fragile Flower who panics horribly at the mere prospect of getting a B grade, to the degree that she thinks Helga is the one who has it easier of the two since she can do whatever she wants and their parents won't say anything.
- In The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy this trope is brilliantly lampshaded in the episode "My Fair Mandy". Grim, disgusted by how tarted up the other contestants were asks "What kind of sad, needy person would do this to them?"
Mom 1: Remember this is mommy's big day. |
- Rare man example in The Simpsons where Homer managers Lisa in a talent contest, bullying everybody behind the scenes to get the best for her.
- A much earlier episode subverted this trope when Homer signed Lisa up for a beauty pageant. Homer didn't do it for any personal glory, but instead because Lisa was feeling insecure about her looks and he thought it would help her self-esteem. And It Worked!
- Susan Dinwittie from What's New, Scooby-Doo? with her former child star kids, Andrew and Mandy, to the point where she secretly becomes a master in robotics so she can control the Mystery Machine remotely, and buy it back cheap from them because it used to belong to the band.
- What really makes it sad is her third child, The Unfavorite genius engineer who thought she was spending time with him and asking about his projects in a possibly forced attempt to get to know him and have him feel like he was still valued. Nope —she just needed to know how certain things worked. Thankfully Andrew and Mandy agreed their mom had gone way too far, decided they'd never work in show business again, and walked off with their brother.
- In Steven Universe, Sadie's mom gets into this trope every time Sadie shows inclination towards any sport or performing activity. The thing is, she's not malicious and isn't trying to live vicariously through her daughter, she legitimately wants people to see how wonderful and talented Sadie is. The problem is that Sadie only tries those activities in search of personal enjoyment, and every time her mom gets to treat any of Sadie's interests as Serious Business and becomes a full mom-manager driven to get her to excel in said activity only gets Sadie to tire and lose interest on it very quickly no matter how much she liked it. Even worse, because she knew her mom didn't have any ill intent, she couldn't truly express her displeasure until Steven intervened and encouraged her to do so.
Real Life examples
General
- Successful entertainers who have children typically wind up getting accused of this if their children follow them into showbiz.
Acting
- Minnie Marx, mother of the Marx Brothers. It was mainly her hard work that ever got them recognition in Vaudeville before their breakthrough. It helps that her children were already adults who has gotten into entertainment by themselves and were trying to breakout when she got involved.
- In his book Star Trek Memories, William Shatner claimed that the wife of the actor who played Christopher Pike in the pilot insisted he only be shot from certain angles, among other techniques, in order to make him look good. Eventually, Desilu Studios couldn't handle this and stopped using the actor.
- In Star Trek IV, Sulu (George Takei) was meant to have a chance encounter, while walking around 20th-century San Francisco, with a kid who would turn out to be his ancestor. Unfortunately, the kid who was to play the part had what Shatner described (in Star Trek Movie Memories) as "the most over-the-top stage mom" he had ever encountered, and she ended up making her kid so stressed out that she made it effectively impossible to actually film the scenes.
- Nearly all of Macaulay Culkin's Hollywood burnout can be attributed to his father/manager, Kit Culkin. To give an example, one of the reasons Macaulay starred in the horror film The Good Son was Kit's pushing and threatening to withdraw Macaulay from Home Alone 2. Kit's presence on The Good Son set wound up forcing the first director to quit. Eventually, studios were turning the kid down for roles specifically because they didn't want to deal with his father, leading to his retirement from acting at the age of 14 (he eventually would do a brief comeback in adulthood but has been more invested in his musical career). Macaulay has since become estranged from Kit and refuses to speak to him.
- When Chris Columbus became the director and producer for the Harry Potter movies, after the initial auditioning of child actors he interviewed the parents of all of the children being considered for roles and eliminated the children of those who came across as stage parents. He said he did that because of all the problems he had with Kit Culkin while doing the first two Home Alone movies.
- Judy Garland's mother came about as straight up abusive. She tended to punish her by locking Judy inside of closets, and later suggested to studio executives to do the same if the girl ever acted up. She also kept feeding her pills to keep her weight and increase her productivity. This ended up very badly, with Garland becoming a barely functional addict, marrying numerous times, and dying at 57 while looking way older than that.
- Dina and Michael Lohan, parents of Lindsay Lohan, are exemplars of the self-serving side of this trope. Dina took Lindsay to nightclubs and let her drink when she was underage, then used her daughter's personal troubles to launch her own career in entertainment, getting herself a reality show on E!. Then, she pushed her younger daughter Ali to enter showbiz as well, causing many people to fear that Ali will end up with as many or more problems thanks to her mother. Michael, meanwhile, blabs about Lindsay to the media every chance he gets, and went on Celebrity Rehab for seemingly no other reason then to get attention and talk about her.
- In a blog post on SMBC Theater, JP mentioned that, while he and some others were talking about the show in a diner, a 10-year-old girl came over and told them that her mother said to tell them she's an actress. If you don't get why he didn't like that, let me put it into perspective: A woman had told her 10-year-old child to introduce herself to a group of men neither one of them were familiar with, just so the girl might get an acting position.
- It would have been worse if the mother was familiar with SMBC Theater, since most of the material is not safe for kids. This is why they always have adults kneeling when they have children in the sketches.
- Drew Barrymore's mother Jaid could be blamed in large part for her daughter's drug and alcohol problems at such a young age. Jaid regularly took young Drew to such adult hangouts like Studio 54 and the China Club, using the fame of the kid to be granted acess. Years later, sometime after Drew posed for Playboy, Jaid decided that she wanted to pose nude too!
- Hilary Duff's parents are said to be the reason why the Lizzie McGuire franchise was cancelled after The Movie. Basically they got too greedy, trying to get an extra fee of $500,000 for Hillary if the movie surpassed $50 million gross, even when she has already received a substantial pay and Disney offered her a salary of $4 million to star in a second film plus 25% of the profit. Her mother's insistence of the $500,000 being paid upfront instead caused the whole deal to fall off.
- More than one similar accusation has been leveled at Billy Ray Cyrus (Miley Cyrus' father and co-star) in regards to the Hannah Montana franchise. Billy Ray says it's the other way round: that the executives were the ones abusing and restraining Miley. Then again, he's also blamed atheists for the same thing. Billy Ray might just be cuckoo.
- Thora Birch's father (Jack Birch, a former porn star) has meddled in his daughter's affairs enough that he's caused a hit to her reputation. He reportedly showed up on set during production of the 2007 film Horrified and watched over his daughter while she performed a simulated sex scene with Dean Winters, then in 2010 he reportedly stayed in her dressing room at a stage adaptation of Dracula and tried to micromanage the production. This ended up getting her fired from the play.
- Thora was also fired from a biopic about the Manson family girls, and the director specifically blamed her father's interference.
- Equally distressing, Thora doesn't appear fazed by her dad's behavior, nor is she upset that he has cost her work. After she was fired from Dracula, she said, "My dad is my support, and he is the best support that I ever could have."
- Will Smith and Jada Pinkett-Smith have been accused of pushing their children into showbiz at too early an age. Their son Jaden is an actor (best known for the remake of The Karate Kid, which was produced by Will and Jada, and the Netflix series The Get Down and Neo Yokio) who has forayed into singing, while their daughter Willow is a singer. The Smiths' claim that their children did have control over their careers was proven true in Willow's case, as she dropped the titular role in a remake of the Annie musical and had a brief retirement in her early teens because musical touring was taxing her too much and she wanted to experience actual normalcy for a while, althoug Willow also claimed that she engaged in self-harm during her musical careen and her parents didn't notice at the time.
- Brooke Shields' mother Teri was infamous for this well into her daughter's 20s. For example, when Brooke joined the Princeton Triangle Club (a musical theatre troupe) during her freshman year at Princeton University and earned a small part in their annual revue, Teri Shields swept in and tried to wrest control of the production from the club and its hand-picked team of professionals. The Triangle Club fought her to a standstill, but still had to cope with her attempts to direct publicity and make it appear that the production was essentially The Brooke Shields Show, as well as installing armed guards in the theatre. It also says something that she wasn't bothered when Brooke appeared nude on screen for her role in Pretty Baby, when Brooke was only twelve.
- Natalie Wood, who played the above mentioned Gypsy on the big screen, had her own real Mama Rose in her mother Maria, who was extremely determined to make her daughter a star no matter the cost. According to at least one biography, Maria would do stuff like killing a butterfly in front of her distressed child in order to make her to cry on camera on scenes that required it.
- Deliberately averted with Mara Wilson, as her parents impressed on her the importance of education and whose attitude towards their child's career was "well, if you don't find it fun anymore you can always retire and we won't held it against you". As a result, Mara is more level-headed than most Former Child Stars and even wrote an article on Cracked.com about the reasons of the crash and burn of those kids. Said article mentions this trope as one of the reasons, and she recalled having work with a child that was the breadwinner for his whole family.
- Walt Disney also wanted to avoid this trope when he created The Mickey Mouse Club. He deliberately went to cast amateur children with talent instead of professional child actors, and then went to set up a separate room for their mothers to read, knit or relax specifically to keep them off during filming.
- Taylor Momsen has accused her parents of being this. She allegedly was pushed into modeling by her mother at seven, and then she was overworked in modeling and acting gigs to burnout levels. This may explain her transformation from a teen soap star to a raunchy, scantily-clad rock frontwoman before she turned 18. Momsen is now very active in her music career and doesn't seem that interested in going back into acting.
- Jackie Coogan, the first child star, whose parents exploited him financially to the point that they left him penniless due to their mismanagement of his earnings. The Coogan Act, created in 1939 and one of the first legal instruments designed to prevent parents from siphoning out the money their performer children made, was named and created after his case.
- The failure of Galactica 1980 was attributed to a mixture of Executive Meddling and this trope. The Executives' insistence on adding Kid Appeal Characters -- interpreted by actual children -- bit them in the butt when said children brought with them their respective Stage Moms, whose interference in the production poisoned the already fragile working environment so much everybody just gave up and instead directed their efforts to have the series canceled as soon as they could.
- Jennette McCurdy, better known as Sam Puckett from iCarly, was forced into acting at six by her very pushy mother, who made her work as the main breadwinner of the family and controlled every aspect of the poor girl's career. McCurdy eventually became very vocal on how much she hated acting and despised most of the characters she played, and she abandoned that career soon after her mother's death in 2013, moving into writing and directing. That her 2022 autobiography is titled "I'm Glad That My Mom Is Dead" and the cover depicts her with an funerary urn full of confetti says everything about her feelings over her late mom.
- Downplayed by Melissa Joan Hart's mother Paula, who, while getting her into acting at a very young age, she was following Melissa's own interest on acting. She also tried to keep her into age appropriate roles and image: she opposed letting young Melissa get her eyebrows plucked and wear more makeup for Clarissa Explains It All, and made the strategic choice of not letting Melissa accept adult roles after that series ended on the perception that the girl's popularity among the teenage demographics could be better used. This plan paid off with Melissa's next role as the title character of Sabrina the Teenage Witch, which catapulted her into stardom.
- Will Wheaton was subject to completely abusive parents, who not only forced him to work 12 hours daily despite him being a minor and even retorted to gaslighting him into accepting roles by telling him that the offers they wanted him to accept were the only ones he was being offered, they were absolutely dismissive of his increasing depression and addictions and spent over $100.000 of his earnings on themselves. It's very telling that he claims that his Star Trek: The Next Generation costars (and specially his onscreen mom) are his true family.
Music
- Britney Spears' mother Lynne pushed her and her sister Jamie Lynn to become stars. You know how this ended, with Britney having a very public meltdown after a problematic divorce, and Jamie Lynn becoming a Teen Mom short after the final season of Zoey 101 finished production. Britney eventually resumed her career and got her life back together, but she remained under her father's conservatorship until 2021, when the extent of control and outright financial abuse he extorted over Britney long after she had managed to get herself clean and stable was revealed, and she finally regained control over her own life, finances and career.
- Joe Simpson, father of Jessica and Ashlee. Nick Lachey, Jessica's former husband, implied that the meddling of his father-in-law over her career and life played no small role in their eventual breakup and divorce. Also notice how both women's musical careers stalled and faded after they distanced from him in the 2010s, with Jessica getting into business ventures and dedicating her time to her family with her second husband and Ashlee becoming a Broadway musical actress.
- Joe Jackson really, really didn't want his kids to become criminals on the streets of Gary, Indiana. He probably could have found a better way to do this, however. All the Jackson children have complained about their father being openly abusive whenever they didn't perform or rehearse to his standards, and discouraged them from having any interests outside show business.
- Michael was the worst victim of the trope. Due to being the youngest son, he was basically deprived of a childhood and spent all of his formative years rehearsing and performing under the heavy hand of his father. This, in turn, may have been the main reason of Michael's eccentricities in later life that in turn led him to acquire both infamy as a Memetic Molester and an early death. For worse, Joe not only used his son's funeral to promote some personal projects of his, he also hinted that he wanted to push Michael's kids into show business too...
- It says something about Joe Jackson's controlling nature that his daughter Janet couldn't find success until she ditched him and associated with two other, less controlling producers to record a New Sound Album.
- The Beach Boys suffered through years of dreadful stage-fathering. Murry Wilson, father of Brian, Carl and Dennis Wilson, was a mildly successful songwriter/producer who, for their first few years, acted as manager, producer, and publisher to the group. Among other questionable practices and decisions, he allegedly whacked Brian Wilson in the head with a 2x4, causing hearing damage. Celebrities At Their Worst, a collection of stories about, well, you know, features a 10-minute outtake of the elder Wilson guilt-tripping his sons through a recording session for "Help Me, Rhonda".
- Mexican singer Luis Miguel's father and manager, Luisito Rey (real name Luis Gallego Sanchez). Rey was a singer himself with a failed career, when he discovered the talent of his eldest son. The guy was very bent into making his precocious kid a star (which, according to Luis Miguel's biographical series in Netflix, included giving him stimulants to keep him productive, forcing the boy with stay with him after Rey divorced his mother, and even making the lady to disappear under mysterious circumstances when she began to protest too much), and given how much of a Teen Idol superstar the kid was during the Eighties you can argue he succeeded... only for Luis Miguel to dump him when he got of age just to escape his incredibly controlling ways. Rey eventually succumbed to alcoholism and died of cirrhosis in 1992, a few years after his firing.
- The Shaggs, a band composed of three sisters, came into existence due to a prophecy their father believed that they would form a popular music group. As soon as they were old enough, he pulled them out of school and bought them instruments and lessons, and forced them into gigs and the studio from 1968 until his death in 1975. Despite his efforts, the band would go down in history as legendarily So Bad It's Good.
- The mother of pop girl group duo Destinee & Paris is like this. The main reason they became Destinee & Paris was that their mother suffocated the previous members of their rock band (Ariel and then Sarah, who lasted less than half a year as the "Clique Girlz") and they were forced into it after all the bad publicity. (Ariel went on to name her next band NMD—No More Drama—as a Take That.) When the two were featured on the E! reality show The Dance Scene, their mother continuously told everyone around them they weren't ready to perform on the night of the performance, despite Laurieann Gibson (choreographer for Lady Gaga) saying they were great. Laurieann dropped them as clients not long after.
- Beyoncé's father, Mathew Knowles, has been pointed as the reason behind the dissolution of his daughter's previous group, Destiny's Child, due to a mix of being a stage dad and having incredibly bad business sense. Beyoncé herself has had a very tenuous relationship with him since she began her solo career.
- Nick and Aaron Carter's careers were ruined by their stage parents, who blew their earnings and settled them in profound debt. Nick managed to cut them off and bounced back with his group, but Aaron, who has a solo career and acquired a drug problem on the road, was forced to cut off his parents at 18 before he was completely drained up, and still he had to file bankruptcy in 2013 at age 25, eventually dying at 34 in 2022. The same parents tried to push out a singing career for Nick and Aaron's sister Leslie, without any success; all she got from their trouble was an addiction to psychiatric meds, which ended killing her at age 25 in 2012.
- Endemic in the Classical Music world, where any parent who notices their children can press piano keys or play some instrument with any accuracy immediately tries to promote them as "young prodigies", to the extent that most parents who can make their children to take piano classes when they are toddlers take the chance, even if there is no actual expectation of statehood or talent, because everyone in that camp, prodigy or not, begin just that young and beginning later even when talented puts them in disadvantage. It has come to the point that in many music schools some kind of practices (like making children sing opera, a genre that is taxing to even adult larynges) are actively discouraged despite the parents' protests in order to protect the child's future career.
- If you search on the classic composers between the XVIII and XIX centuries you can find that a number of them began as young prodigies, pushed into playing and singing at an early age at their parent wishes. The most archetypal example is Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart and his sister Maria Anna touring Europe as a piano and violin duet under their (also a renowned musician) father Leonard's tutelage. In fact, the "Child Prodigy" trope is so ubiquitous that it comes as a surprise that some famous composers like Richard Wagner and Johannes Brahms didn't begin to write music until their middle age (Mozart himself didn't hit his stride until his twenties).
- The founder and manager of teen Boy Band Menudo averted this by forcing the parents of his talent to sign him over their parental rights, so he could get full control over the boys without any pesky parental interference. Probably because early on he encountered a subversion of this trope: one father who travelled with the group went on full stage dad controlling mode... to make sure that his son and his group mates were adequately fed and took regular breaks, which went against the manager wish of keeping the group constantly training and working.
- Averted by Ringo Starr, who after his own experiences as both part of The Beatles and as a solo act, for a long time tried to discourage his son Zak Starkey from getting into music. Instead, Zak was encouraged to become a drummer by his godfather Keith Moon.
Sports
- Anthony Hamilton, Lewis Hamilton's dad and ex-manager. Lewis admits they're not in speaking terms ever since his dad stopped managing his stuff.
- Poor, poor Vitaly Petrov. Crossed with Amazingly Embarrassing Parents, too. Ouch.
- Both of NHL hockey player Eric Lindros' parents were like this. Widely expected to be the next great superstar in the early 1990s, both his father (also his agent) and his mother were very vocal as to what they saw as acceptable for their son, including having him hold out from playing for the Quebec Nordiques who had drafted him first overall (the city being too small, French and provincial to properly market their son). This got Lindros' career off on the wrong foot and made him an early pariah with a Jerkass reputation. After the Philadelphia Flyers acquired his rights, the Lindros parents continued to attempt to stage-manage his career to the great annoyance of the organization. Eric did go on to become a very good player until his career (and that of his little brother) was cut short by injuries.
- In a Hilarious in Hindsight moment for Quebec, Lindros' trade to Philadelphia turned them into a playoff contender almost overnight. They went on to win two Stanley Cups as the Colorado Avalanche.
Other
- Wanda Holloway, the woman who inspired The Positively True Adventures of the Alleged Texas Cheerleader-Murdering Mom and Willing to Kill: The Texas Cheerleader Story. She asked her brother-in-law to hire a hit man, who then was supposed to kill the mother of her kid's rival in a cheerleading competition.
- Watch any show about child pageants. All the moms and more than one dad shown there will be like this, more often than not, to sickening degrees. This is the whole point of the shows Toddlers and Tiaras, Dance Moms and, more infamously, Here Comes Honey Boo Boo.
- One particularly sickening example is the story of Kerry Campbell, who gave her eight-year-old daughter Botox injections. When she was found out, she not only defended this practice (claiming it was never too early get your child cosmetic surgery to "get rid of the lines"), but also claimed that other pageant moms practiced this as well. The fact that the story turned out to be fake did nothing to dispel it.
- One 5-year-old girl named Carley developed an alter-ego called Darla to cope with her mom's pushing.[please verify]
- Whenever The Soup had to cover these shows, its host Joel McHale threw his most pointed barbs. At one point he compared one of the parents that appeared in Dance Moms with Chronos, the Greek Titan who devoured his children, in a way that make Chronos the better parent in comparison!
- George Sampson, the winner of Britain's Got Talent in 2008, should have had a very promising career after his victory in the show. Unfortunately, his career was run into the ground in less than a year, in no small part due to his obnoxious and extremely demanding mother, who was largely responsible for Simon Cowell's company ditching Sampson after they became sick of her. Sampson is making a rebound, however, as he has starred in the film Street Dance.
- Rose Hovick, mother of burlesque star Gypsy Rose Lee and actress June Havoc. She became legendary for this trope following Gypsy's 1957 autobiography and the subsequent musical adaptation Gypsy as mentioned above.
- A bizarre version of this was the infamous case of Daddyoffive, a YouTube channel where the parents did cruel and outright abusive "pranks" on their children and then uploaded the videos as "humorous" ones. They monetized their videos and those went very popular, so by the time they were finally investigated and arrested they had made millions by exploiting their children's distress.
- Some people have accused Lynn Johnston, author of For Better or For Worse, of a variant of this trope, in the sense that while she didn't directly exploited her children the way this trope is traditionally expected, by incorporating a distressingly high number of their real experiences (ranging from comical to humiliating events) in her work she subjected them to Muse Abuse. As a result, her children were often victims of bullying in school, and as they became older they grew apart from their mother.
- Stage parenting was believed to be the reason behind the tragic case of Peruvian model and entertainer Mónica Santa María. She was pushed into modeling at 7 years old by her mother, over her father's objections, and by the time she became a teenager she was one of the most famous models of her country. In 1990, when she was 17, she became one of the hostesses of Nubeluz, which soon became the biggest children's show in Latin America. She was the most popular among the hostesses, and she stayed in the show until 1994, with a brief retirement of six months in 1993. Unfortunately, she also presented symptoms of bipolar disorder and had frequent bouts of depression that went untreated, which resulted in her suicide in 1994 at the age of 21.
- Kris Jenner, the matriarch of the Kardashian-Jenner cluster of socialites, has been the mom-manager of her children for decades now, and she has been so hellbent to make them famous and monetize their notoriety one way or another that she has gotten the nickname of "Pimp Mother Kris" (PMK for short). At least one journalist has accused her of having leaked the sex tape that make her daughter Kim Kardashian famous, and while she had denied that, she hasn't denied that she took advantage of the notoriety it brought.
- ↑ he outlived all but one of them.