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[[Deadpan Snarker|Harry Burns]] and [[Wide-Eyed Idealist|Sally Albright]] first meet when they ride from college to [[New York City]]. He's seeing her friend Amanda and comes on to her; she turns him down and says they can be friends. He points out that if you're a guy, you will always be attracted to the female friend and want to sleep with her, thus they decide not to be friends. They revisit the question five years later when they are both taken and run into each other in an airport, once again resolving that no, they cannot.
[[Deadpan Snarker|Harry Burns]] and [[Wide-Eyed Idealist|Sally Albright]] first meet when they ride from college to [[New York City]]. He's seeing her friend Amanda and comes on to her; she turns him down and says they can be friends. He points out that if you're a guy, you will always be attracted to the female friend and want to sleep with her, thus they decide not to be friends. They revisit the question five years later when they are both taken and run into each other in an airport, once again resolving that no, they cannot.


Five years later, both of them re-meet after having been dumped by their SO's, and become friends. While resolving to [[Just Friends|just be friends]]...well for most of the movie they ''succeed'' in this. Their relationship has little sexual tension, and is punctuated by extended conversations where they discuss love, friendship, scatological humor, and [[Casablanca]]. The [[Aesop]] seems to be that people really [[The Power of Friendship|need friendships]]- the nonsexual comfort zone Harry and Sally establish with each other is what allows them to move on from their failed relationships. To each other, in case you haven't [[Foregone Conclusion|figured that out yet]].
Five years later, both of them re-meet after having been dumped by their SO's, and become friends. While resolving to [[Just Friends|just be friends]]... well for most of the movie they ''succeed'' in this. Their relationship has little sexual tension, and is punctuated by extended conversations where they discuss love, friendship, scatological humor, and ''[[Casablanca]]''. The [[Aesop]] seems to be that people really [[The Power of Friendship|need friendships]]- the nonsexual comfort zone Harry and Sally establish with each other is what allows them to move on from their failed relationships. To each other, in case you haven't [[Foregone Conclusion|figured that out yet]].


In terms of the [[Romantic Comedy]] genre, this movie's main contribution was its popularization of [[Contemplate Our Navels]] as a form of [[Character Development]] and emotional connection- Harry and Sally are defined almost entirely by their interactions with each other. What external factors do exist they usually discuss with each other directly and personally.
In terms of the [[Romantic Comedy]] genre, '''''When Harry Met Sally...'''''{{'}}s main contribution was its popularization of [[Contemplate Our Navels]] as a form of [[Character Development]] and emotional connection- Harry and Sally are defined almost entirely by their interactions with each other. What external factors do exist they usually discuss with each other directly and personally.


Viewers familiar with the modern [[Rom Com]] may be caught off-guard, as this movie lacks the [[High Concept]] and [[Hotter and Sexier]] tropes the genre is famous for. There's almost no sex or even provocative clothing. There's vastly more scenes of people in bed, alone, wearing pajamas and talking on the phone than getting their sex on. The "R" rating was likely due to the famed restaurant scene.
Viewers familiar with the modern [[Rom Com]] may be caught off-guard, as this movie lacks the [[High Concept]] and [[Hotter and Sexier]] tropes the genre is famous for. There's almost no sex or even provocative clothing. There's vastly more scenes of people in bed, alone, wearing pajamas and talking on the phone than getting their sex on. The "R" rating was likely due to the famed restaurant scene.


''When Harry Met Sally...'' was named to the [[National Film Registry]] in 2022.
Billy Crystal and Rob Reiner recently appeared in a [[Real Trailer, Fake Movie|spoof trailer]] on FunnyOrDie.com for ''[http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/0247468f28/when-harry-met-sally-2-with-billy-crystal-helen-mirren When Harry Met Sally 2]'', where [[Executive Meddling]] has turned a continuation of the original film into a shameless cashing in on the vampire craze.

Billy Crystal and Rob Reiner recently{{when}} appeared in a [[Real Trailer, Fake Movie|spoof trailer]] on FunnyOrDie.com for ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20131111113843/http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/0247468f28/when-harry-met-sally-2-with-billy-crystal-helen-mirren When Harry Met Sally 2]'', where [[Executive Meddling]] has turned a continuation of the original film into a shameless cashing in on the vampire craze.



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* [[Alliterative Name]]: Harry's ex, Helen Hillson.
* [[Alliterative Name]]: Harry's ex, Helen Hillson.
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* [[Finishing Each Other's Sentences]]: Couple #3 engage in this.
* [[Finishing Each Other's Sentences]]: Couple #3 engage in this.
* [[Follow the Leader]]: ''When Harry Met Sally'' shares more than a few similarities with ''[[Annie Hall]]'' and ''Manhattan''.
* [[Follow the Leader]]: ''When Harry Met Sally'' shares more than a few similarities with ''[[Annie Hall]]'' and ''Manhattan''.
* [[Foreshadowing]]: Helen opting to keep her surname.
* [[Foreshadowing]]: Helen opting [[The Maiden Name Debate|to keep her surname]].
** Also, Harry's confession that his dates always end with him desperate to yank on his clothes and flee out the door.
** Also, Harry's confession that his dates always end with him desperate to yank on his clothes and flee out the door.
* [[For Inconvenience Press One]]: Harry parodies this in one of his apologetic voicemails.
* [[For Inconvenience Press One]]: Harry parodies this in one of his apologetic voicemails.
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* [[I Don't Want to Ruin Our Friendship]]: Ironically, it proves Harry's point that sex ruins friendships. Not that Harry feels very victorious about it.
* [[I Don't Want to Ruin Our Friendship]]: Ironically, it proves Harry's point that sex ruins friendships. Not that Harry feels very victorious about it.
* [[The Immodest Orgasm]]: Sally fakes one in the middle of a crowded deli to prove a point to Harry.
* [[The Immodest Orgasm]]: Sally fakes one in the middle of a crowded deli to prove a point to Harry.
** Some consider this [[All There Is to Know About "The Crying Game"|all there is to know about When Harry Met Sally]].
** Some consider this [[All There Is to Know About "The Crying Game"|all there is to know about ''When Harry Met Sally'']].
* [[Inelegant Blubbering]]: Sally hearing the news of her ex's wedding engagement.
* [[Inelegant Blubbering]]: Sally hearing the news of her ex's wedding engagement.
* [[Insistent Terminology]]: The official title of the film is ''When Harry Met Sally...'', including the ellipsis.
* [[Insistent Terminology]]: The official title of the film is ''When Harry Met Sally...'', including the ellipsis.
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* [[Nietzsche Wannabe]]: Harry, especially as a young man.
* [[Nietzsche Wannabe]]: Harry, especially as a young man.
* [[Not Staying for Breakfast]]: Harry's MO.
* [[Not Staying for Breakfast]]: Harry's MO.
{{quote|'''Sally:''' You know, I'm so glad I never got involved with you. I just would have ended up being some woman you had to get up out of bed and leave at 3:00 in the morning and go [[I Have to Go Iron My Dog|clean your andirons]]...}}
{{quote|'''Sally:''' You know, I'm so glad I never got involved with you. I just would have ended up being some woman you had to get up out of bed and leave at 3:00 in the morning and go [[I Need to Go Iron My Dog|clean your andirons]]...}}
* [[Opposites Attract]]: Sally is perpetually perky, Harry is death-obsessed.
* [[Opposites Attract]]: Sally is perpetually perky, Harry is death-obsessed.
** [[Uptight Loves Wild]]: A rare [[Inverted Trope|inversion]] of this trope. Sally starts the film as a chaste Christian, while Harry is a greasy bohemian.
** [[Uptight Loves Wild]]: A rare [[Inverted Trope|inversion]] of this trope. Sally starts the film as a chaste Christian, while Harry is a greasy bohemian.
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* [[Real Life Writes the Plot]]: The movie was based on Director Rob Reiner's own dating experiences and frustrations (he was recovering from a divorce just as Harry was), and as he was single at the time, originally Harry would not get with Sally at the end. The decision of the happier ending where they get together apparently was a result of Reiner meeting and eventually marrying a woman during the film's production.
* [[Real Life Writes the Plot]]: The movie was based on Director Rob Reiner's own dating experiences and frustrations (he was recovering from a divorce just as Harry was), and as he was single at the time, originally Harry would not get with Sally at the end. The decision of the happier ending where they get together apparently was a result of Reiner meeting and eventually marrying a woman during the film's production.
* [[Real Men Hate Affection]]: Harry confides to Jess about his divorce in the least-intimate setting possible: a football game.
* [[Real Men Hate Affection]]: Harry confides to Jess about his divorce in the least-intimate setting possible: a football game.
* [[Recurring Riff]]: [[wikipedia:It Had to Be You (song)|"It Had To Be You"]] pops up all over the place-- it's practically [[Leitmotif|the theme song]] for Harry and Sally's relationship.
* [[Recurring Riff]]: [[wikipedia:It Had to Be You (song)|"It Had To Be You"]] pops up all over the place; it's practically [[Leitmotif|the theme song]] for Harry and Sally's relationship.
* [[Second Love]]
* [[Second Love]]
* [[Seinfeldian Conversation]]: Arguing over whether Ingrid Bergman should have stayed with Bogart in ''[[Casablanca]]''.
* [[Seinfeldian Conversation]]: Arguing over whether Ingrid Bergman should have stayed with Bogart in ''[[Casablanca]]''.
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* [[Sex Changes Everything]]
* [[Sex Changes Everything]]
* [[Single Woman Seeks Good Man]]
* [[Single Woman Seeks Good Man]]
* [[Slap Slap Kiss]]: ..And back to Slap, again.
* [[Slap Slap Kiss]]: ...And back to Slap, again.
* [[Split-Screen Phone Call]]
* [[Split-Screen Phone Call]]
* [[Stepford Smiler]]: Throughout the film, Sally claims to be totally over her commitment-phobic boyfriend. That is, until he promptly proposes to somebody else. Cue [[Inelegant Blubbering|explosion]].
* [[Stepford Smiler]]: Throughout the film, Sally claims to be totally over her commitment-phobic boyfriend. That is, until he promptly proposes to somebody else. Cue [[Inelegant Blubbering|explosion]].
* [[Stunned Silence]]: After their first meal together, Harry stares at Sally like she's from Mars.
* [[Stunned Silence]]: After their When Harry Met Sallyfirst meal together, Harry stares at Sally like she's from Mars.
* [[There Are Two Kinds of People in the World]]: High-maintenance women, and low maintenance women.
* [[There Are Two Kinds of People in the World]]: High-maintenance women, and low maintenance women.
{{quote|'''Sally:''' ...And Ingrid Bergman is ''low'' maintenance?
{{quote|'''Sally:''' ...And Ingrid Bergman is ''low'' maintenance?
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Latest revision as of 17:30, 14 December 2022

The poster so nice, they used it twice.

Harry Burns and Sally Albright first meet when they ride from college to New York City. He's seeing her friend Amanda and comes on to her; she turns him down and says they can be friends. He points out that if you're a guy, you will always be attracted to the female friend and want to sleep with her, thus they decide not to be friends. They revisit the question five years later when they are both taken and run into each other in an airport, once again resolving that no, they cannot.

Five years later, both of them re-meet after having been dumped by their SO's, and become friends. While resolving to just be friends... well for most of the movie they succeed in this. Their relationship has little sexual tension, and is punctuated by extended conversations where they discuss love, friendship, scatological humor, and Casablanca. The Aesop seems to be that people really need friendships- the nonsexual comfort zone Harry and Sally establish with each other is what allows them to move on from their failed relationships. To each other, in case you haven't figured that out yet.

In terms of the Romantic Comedy genre, When Harry Met Sally...‍'‍s main contribution was its popularization of Contemplate Our Navels as a form of Character Development and emotional connection- Harry and Sally are defined almost entirely by their interactions with each other. What external factors do exist they usually discuss with each other directly and personally.

Viewers familiar with the modern Rom Com may be caught off-guard, as this movie lacks the High Concept and Hotter and Sexier tropes the genre is famous for. There's almost no sex or even provocative clothing. There's vastly more scenes of people in bed, alone, wearing pajamas and talking on the phone than getting their sex on. The "R" rating was likely due to the famed restaurant scene.

When Harry Met Sally... was named to the National Film Registry in 2022.

Billy Crystal and Rob Reiner recently[when?] appeared in a spoof trailer on FunnyOrDie.com for When Harry Met Sally 2, where Executive Meddling has turned a continuation of the original film into a shameless cashing in on the vampire craze.


I'd like some Trope on the side:
  • Alliterative Name: Harry's ex, Helen Hillson.
  • Analogy Backfire: Harry articulating why enough time has passed that he can ignore having sex with Sally that one time. Also a hint that he's sliding back into his old, insufferable self.

Harry: You know how a year to a person is like seven years to a dog?
Sally (Beat) Is one of us supposed to be a dog in this scenario?

Harry: Alright, you're still as tough as nails.

  • Bad Date: Harry and Sally spend a good deal of time talking about these. Mostly played for comedy, but can get dramatic, too.
  • Bad News in a Good Way: Helen suggesting a 'trial separation'. They can still date! ("Like this is supposed to cushion the blow.")
  • Beard of Sorrow: Harry has had a few week's growth by the time of his divorce.
  • Big Applesauce
  • Blind Date
  • Briar Patching: Harry is the undisputed master.
  • Brick Joke: In the 70s, Harry scoffs at the notion that Sally could ever have "great sex" with a guy name Sheldon. Guess who his wife leaves him for? Ira.
  • California Doubling: They drive off the University of Chicago campus on the south side to New York.... via a picturesque segment of Lake Shore Drive headed toward the south side [Did they have to visit a friend at Northwestern, Depaul or Loyola first?]
  • Catch Phrase: You're right. You're right. I know you're right."
  • Chekhov's Gun: Harry's hypothesis on why men and women can't be platonic.
  • Child-Hater: Harry getting into a spat with a kid at the ballfield.

Kid: (Big jerk.)
Harry: (Little creep.)

Sally: You know, I'm so glad I never got involved with you. I just would have ended up being some woman you had to get up out of bed and leave at 3:00 in the morning and go clean your andirons...

Sally: ...And Ingrid Bergman is low maintenance?
Harry: An L.M. Definitely

  • Thousand-Yard Stare: Post-coitus Harry in Sally's bed.
  • Toilet Seat Divorce: The wagon wheel coffee table. From Hell.
    • Inverted, with Harry transferring his own pent-up rage toward his ex on Jess and Marie.
    • Not one to take chances, though, Jess bins the table.
    • Sally's boyfriend in college broke up with her because she wore panties embroidered with the days of the week. And "Sunday" was missing. J'accuse!
  • Unsatisfiable Customer: Sally is the Berlin Wall of gourmets. Everything needs to be separate.

Harry: "On the side" is a very big thing with you.

  • Wedding Day: Marie and Jess's, where Harry and Sally have a post-sex fight.
  • Why Can't I Hate You?: Sally's response to Harry's Love Confession at the end.
  • Your Approval Fills Me with Shame: Harry's a bit too quick in agreeing with Sally that it was a mistake to have sex with her.
  • Your Cheating Heart: Marie has a long-term affair with the married Arthur. Sally continually reminds her that Arthur is never going to leave his wife; Marie always admits to it, but a few scenes later, she's discussing him yet again...