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** There's also Sallingstreet (Mark/Chord), [[Mc Vera]] (Naya/Kevin), Kevanna (Kevin/Dianna), Monchele (Cory/Lea), [[Mc Riley]] (Kevin/Amber), Salgron (Dianna/Mark), Overgron (Chord/Dianna), [[Mc Gustin]] (Kevin/Grant)...the list goes on. A few of the boys, among them Kevin, Cory, and Chord, are referred to as Amber's Harem.
* [[Alternate Character Interpretation]]:
** All the [[ClicheCliché Storm]] and [[Unfortunate Implications]] examples are ''completely'' intentional gags in a subversive parody. It takes a few episodes to realize this. Listening to [[Refuge in Audacity|all of the stuff Sue]] says lets you know, though.
** One critic firmly believes that the show is fundamentally the most tragic show on TV, but is presented as the happiest show on TV.
** Thanks to the well rounded personalities of every character in the show, everyone can be seen as the villain or the hero of the franchise. It all really depends on who you identify with the best... or who you hate the most.
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** Rachel: Self-centered [[Jerkass]] who occasionally [[Pet the Dog|displays kindness to other people]] or a well-intentioned girl who only wants the Glee club to be successful, but tends to go too far in pursuit of that goal and fails to think before she speaks/acts?
* [[Anvilicious]]: Since the list was getting ridiculous, we now have a whole [[Glee (TV)/Theme|separate page]] dedicated to listing every episode's hard-to-miss theme.
* [[Arc Fatigue]]: Some people feel that the Dalton arc--when Kurt transferred to Dalton Academy to get away from bullying--was drawn out too long, and that Kurt was being [[Spot Light Spotlight-Stealing Squad|overshadowed by Blaine and the Warblers in his own storyline]]. It was ''supposed'' to make a point about gay bullying, but for the most part amounted to little more than a few [[Big Lipped Alligator Moment|big lipped alligator moments]] and [[Yaoi]] scenes. According to [[Word of God]], the Warblers were only supposed to appear for two episodes of the second season, but their immense popularity led to them staying on the show much longer, possibly into the third season. Until "Born This Way", when Kurt finally returned to McKinley, it felt entirely possible that he would be staying there indefinitely.
** Which makes this a case of [[Frige Brilliance]]: it emphasises how being in [[Mc Kinley]] stresses his individuality, instead of being part of the Warblers, who are extremely coordinated and sticklers to tradition.
* [[Ascended Fanon]]: The creators have admitted that the idea of Brittany/Santana as a serious, [[Official Couple]] started with the fans, that they never planned for them to be more than a one-off joke until they saw that the fans wanted more.
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* [[Cargo Shipping]]: Wes/Gavel and Kurt/Kilt are fairly popular, but the most widely known one is Santana/Shrub-shaped-like-a-person (Shrubtana).
** Don't forget Briano (Brad, the piano player for New Directions and his piano. Though he cheats on it with the keyboard from time to time)
* [[ClicheCliché Storm]] / [[Troperrific]]: Critics charge that the show relies too much on hackneyed plot devices; the show really tends to revel in the charge. The fans love it though, and the writers certainly know what they're getting into.
* [[Colbert Bump]]: Has had this effect with some of the music they've featured on their show.
* [[Completely Missing the Point]]: The "Umbrella/Singin' in the Rain" mash-up was supposed to make "Singin'" a bit more modern and enjoyable for the kids. Instead it's basically "Umbrella" with half of the chorus switched out. And most of the "Singin'" parts are only sung by Will anyways, so the kids don't have to do any of the old music anyways. At least it was mostly enjoyable to listen to.
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** The meaning of the "Don't Stand So Close To Me"/"Young Girl" mashup (which deliberately ignores the point of both) is botched by the inclusion of the line "Temptation, frustration, so bad it makes him cry."
* [[Complete Monster]]: {{spoiler|The guys at Karofsky's new school, who outed him as gay and drove him to a, thankfully failed,[[Driven to Suicide|suicide attempt]]. [[Moral Event Horizon|They even continued mocking him on Facebook after his suicide attempt!]]}}
* [[Contractual Purity]]: There is a strange tendency by [[Moral Guardians|some people]] to flip out every time Lea Michele or Dianna Agron appears on a magazine looking sexy. Yes, they are adult women in their mid-20s, not teenagers, yet somehow the fact that they play minors on TV means that they are "sending girls the wrong message" every time they so much as wear low-cut shirts. ''Glee'' is an unusual case, though, since it is not a kids' show and it engages in sexual and other adult themes ''on the show'', so this expectation is solely due to [[What Do You Mean ItsIt's Not for Kids?|viewer misconceptions]].
* [[Crack Pairing]]: Artie's relationship with Brittany, at least initially.
** Crack pairings seem to be a part of the show. Others include: Puck/Rachel, Puck/Mercedes, Kurt/Brittany, Artie/Becky, Will/Sue, and Puck/Shelby
* [[CreatorsCreator's Pet]]:
** Kurt. It's no secret that he's a [[CreatorsCreator's Pet]]; his character didn't exist at first and was created specifically to play up Chris Colfer's strengths when he auditioned for Artie. Furthermore, [[Jerkass]] things he says often go unchecked, and there are many cases where logic takes a back seat so that he is never wrong (it took until ''the next season'' for him to get called out for harassing Finn, probably after viewers criticized his supposed innocence in the matter).
** Holly Holiday. It definitely feels this way for people who don't like Holly, since Ryan Murphy called the actress who plays her "Glee's muse" and seems fond of the character by association.
** There was a lot of backlash against Finn in Season 2 for this very reason, to the point of there being a "Hypocritical Finn" meme. Detractors point out that anyone wronging him is automatically the bad guy, and anytime he does something wrong he's meant to be sympathetic, despite the fact that he's often doing the very same things that cause other characters to get painted as douchebags and villains. The backlash got even worse in Season 3, after he {{spoiler|outed Santana}}, and suffered no consequences other than her slapping him. Even his gay stepbrother, and raised-by-gay-dads girlfriend, don't say anything, and in the following episode it seems that everyone is convinced that Finn did the ''right thing''.
** Blaine Anderson. It didn't help that even right after being introduced, he was already getting more and more air time and way more solos than most of the original cast members, which ended up being shoehorned in once or twice (TSSBS, Prom Queen). And his characterization made him out to be a [[Canon Sue]] for a lot of people. It has reached the point where even ''[[Darren Criss]]'' thought Blaine had a little too much focus on him.
*** Fan reaction got even more split as of season 3 where he became less of a [[Canon Sue]] and more as a [[Spot Light Spotlight-Stealing Squad|Spotlight Stealing]] [[Shallow Love Interest]].
*** Well YMMV because it seems that alot of people claim Blaine steals time from others, when in reality, he hardly got any material outside of being Kurt's boyfriend, and others got a ton more time than him this season. In fact, Season 3 was more like the Finchel show with even the people on The Morning After saying that Blaine had gotten Glee's Asian Treatment (read: reduced to the background; human prop only to be used for songs on occasion)
* [[Crosses the Line Twice]]: Almost anything Sue does or says.
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** Kurt is frequently cited as the show's "breakout star," as is Sue Sylvester.
** Brittany, who wasn't in the pilot, didn't speak until episode 4, gets a handful of lines in every episode and still manages to be one of the most popular characters on the show with her charming minimalistic humor. The TIME TV critic James Poniewozik posts his favorite "Brittany-ism" after every show on his blog. Brittany. She's one of the two best dancers, and a pretty good singer to boot.
** An actor version: [[Hey ItsIt's That Guy|Mike O'Malley]], who plays Kurt's father, was basically a stalwart of mediocre sitcoms ([[Yes Dear]]), Nickelodeon game shows and commercials. In ''Glee,'' he routinely turns out subtle and heartfelt performances. His character, Burt, as well.
** Blaine, who's won a lot of fans over with his good looks and excellent voice.
** Mike Chang is also extremely popular, even before he started getting lines. Having nice abs doesn't hurt one's popularity.
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** Becky, even more so due to her inner monologuing.
* [[Evil Is Cool]]: Why Sue started out as one of the most popular characters on the show, before turning into an [[Overly Long Gag]].
* [[Family -Unfriendly Aesop]]: ''Rocky Horror Glee Show'' attempted to tack on an aesop at the end by say "Freaks and outcasts are better off seperating themselves from society because they aren't appreciated." Huh?
** "Props" had the aesop of "If someone hogs all attention and praise all the time from you, it's Ok, because it's meant to be like that!' Using Tina, an Asian-American character, for the plot and Rachel Berry as the attention-hogger she actually is also creates uncomfortable and pretty racist [[Unfortunate Implications]]...
* [[Fandom Heresy]]: Let's just say that there aren't many places in the ''[[Glee]]'' fandom where it's safe to admit that you don't much like Lea Michele's singing voice, and leave it at that. [[Chris Colfer]] and [[Darren Criss]] (if not [[Base Breaker|their characters]]) also tend to be sacred cows. Especially Darren's.
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** Sam's performance of "Billionaire" in his debut seemed to be a random song to show off his voice with, but it becomes a lot more painful after seeing the events of "Rumors".
** In his 'fake' apology to the Glee club in 'Born This Way' Dave Karofsky says he 'read stories about kids who were bullied so much they hung themselves'. That speech takes on a whole new light after the events of ''[[Wham Episode|On My Way]]''.
* [[Hey ItsIt's That Guy]]: Apparently, half of the cast in the first season was recruited from ''[[Heroes]]'', and the other half from ''[[Spring Awakening]]''.
** [[Darren Criss|We love you]] [[A Very Potter Musical|Harry Potter!]]
** [[Neil Patrick Harris|Barney]] [[How I Met Your Mother|Stinson]], that guy's awesome!
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** Most of the episodes in season 3 have ''at least'' one of these.
* [[Jerkass Woobie]]: Every single character depending on your viewpoint is either this or just a Jerkass.
* [[Jumping the Shark]]: Most fans seem to think that this has occurred, with the most common view being that it happened in either the back nine of Season 1, or with the beginning of Season 2, and the show jumped an addition shark with the beginning of Season 3. However, there are plenty of fans who still genuinely enjoy it and see its critics as [["Stop Having Fun!" Guys]], while another group attests that the show was always bad and it was only when the novelty of its format wore off that people could see it for what it was.
* [[Kick the Dog]]: This is the general reaction to the rare instances of people being mean to Brittany.
** Sue cracking wise about Burt's near death from heart attack. Even for her that was a low blow.
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** Sack (Sam/Puck)
** Sinn (Sam/Quinn) as of "Duets". Most fans use Fabrevans or Quam.
*** Sinn was also used for Finn/Sam for a while, but those fans have begun to use Hudevans due to the tumblr tag being filled with "''[[Vampire Diaries]]'', watches, and [[Bread, Eggs, Milk, Squick|pornstars]]".
** Arittany (Artie/Brittany)
*** More commonly, Bartie - and the less-flattering "Barfie" from the Brittana shippers.
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** Rorbastian is Rory/Sebastian.
** Rormony is Rory/Harmony.
* [[Protagonist -Centered Morality]]: Happens much over the series.
* [[Recycled Premise]]: A number of plots, characters and ideas are blatantly lifted from ''[[Popular]]'', also created and written by Murphy.
* [[Rescued From the Scrappy Heap]]: Quinn and Rachel for some. Dave for others.
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** Even some ''Klaine fans'' think they're getting over-the-top, considering that the [[Dark Fic]], [[Fix Fic]], and [[Deconstruction Fic]] on ''any fanfiction archive'' far outnumber standard romance. (Of course, other people are frankly relieved to see a teen gay romance that isn't [[Bury Your Gays|horribly]] [[Gayngst|angst-ridden]] in prime-time.)
** Season 3 manages to change Klaine from [[Sickeningly Sweethearts]] to Blaine! (And Kurt), meaning that Blaine is the faultless, dude magnet one in the relationship, and whenever one of the two is wrong, that one is ''always'' Kurt.
* [[So Bad ItsIt's Good]]: Trouty Mouth
** And while we're on the subject some consider the show this
* [[The Sociopath]]: Sebastian pretty much point-for-point fits the characteristics of dissocial personality disorder in the ICD-10. Even without [[Die for Our Ship]] goggles, something about literally showing no remorse for {{spoiler|accidentally causing harm to the boy he wanted to have sex with that will require reconstructive surgery in his attempt to ''intentionally'' cause harm to that boy's boyfriend}} makes him cross the line from "plain old Glee [[Jerkass]]" to "Jesus Christ, lock up the sharp objects".
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** And as of ''Goodbye'', it's turned into ''[[High School Musical]]'': ''The Cover Edition''.
* [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot]]: "Audition" seems to set up an intense rivalry between Quinn and Santana over the position of Head Cheerleader, including the famous catfight in the hallway, which seems like it will be a big deal that season (confirmed by the creators' comments). Nothing comes of it. Quinn offhandedly mentions she needs to keep Santana off her back in "Duets", but nothing to this effect has ever been seen on screen, and, so far, nothing else has come of what initially appeared to be a pretty significant plot development.
** The Dalton Arc could have been a legitimately interesting side-plot by showing how Blaine's conflict over "running away" drives him to overcompensate in misguided attempts to help Kurt. Instead, Blaine barely got ''any'' characterization because 1) the writers kept [[Pandering to The Base]] of rabid [[Yaoi Fangirl|Yaoi Fangirls]], and 2) at least ''half'' of the Dalton scenes were songs. [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|And not even relevant ones.]]
** Dave Karofsky's suicide attempt for sure, because of the Klaine [[Fan Dumb]] and the writers' [[They Just Didn't Care]] attitude. Hell, they didn't even ''mention it'' '''in the [[Previously On]] in the episode after it'''.
** "Big Brother" definitely has this problem. They had a plot perfectly set up in {{spoiler|Quinn's car crash aftermath}} which ended up being almost completely sidelined in favor of bringing in drama with Blaine and his brother.
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* [[Values Dissonance]]: Many international viewers have expressed surprise that this show portrays teachers hugging their students, something forbidden in the UK but mostly<ref>prohibited in some schools, yes</ref> common in US schools.
* [[Viewer Gender Confusion]]: Some viewers thought Coach Beiste was played by a male transvestite. In fact, she is played by a woman, Dot Jones. And on the other side of the gender spectrum, more than a few viewers thought Kurt was a girl at first due to his high-pitched voice and somewhat feminine facial features. Now that his actor is older and more well-established, it's less common, though it still happens on occasion for first-time watchers.
* [[What an Idiot!]]: Hiring Terri as the school nurse.
** It's a wonder Dave didn't just blurt out, 'I didn't kiss Kurt in the locker room!' There's actually a very plausible denial he could have given for checking out Sam's bottom. Namely, Sam was getting a drink out of a water fountain. Dave was thirsty and looked to see who was at the fountain. He saw, and then, continued walking until he found another one. If Santana thought that his eyes were specifically on the bottom, that's probably because that's where hers were. Of course, it probably doesn't help that scene was played so subtly that, even knowing Dave's gay, this troper didn't even realise that's what he was doing until Santana spelled it out.
** Sure, Kurt, give the guy who ''assaulted your boyfriend'' the only evidence of his wrongdoing. Without showing it to anyone who could do something about it. "Now your teammates know what kind of a person you are"? No. They ''don't.'' Because ''they haven't heard the evidence.''
* [[What Do You Mean ItsIt's Not for Kids?]]: The show had a joke about oral sex in the very second episode, along with a dance routine that bordered on dry humping and was described as "giving [the audience]...sex!" The third episode had a student talk about how much he loves to have sex with older, married women when he cleans their pools. The fourth episode had the president of the celibacy club get pregnant, and lie to her boyfriend that it happened when he ejaculated prematurely in the pool. And so on and so forth. And yet, there are people complaining that a scene with two boys kissing was "inappropriate for the children who watch the show."
** The fact that they play quite a few of the original and cover songs on Radio Disney REALLY doesn't help them change the idea.
* [[WTH Casting Agency]]: Kevin McHale is one of the best dancers on the cast, but it's ''his'' character who's in a wheelchair.