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** Achele (Dianna Agron/Lea Michele) is one of the most popular Real Person Ships on Glee fandom, due to the actresses' closeness and their constant touching and/or glancing at each other in some interviews. They also lived together for a while, which gives the shippers even more fuel.

** Interestingly, the two openly gay cast-members (Chris Colfer and Jonathan Groff) are ''never'' being shipped with each other, everyone being busy pairing up Chris with a straight guy and Jonathan with a woman. Fandom is a funny place.

* [[Alternate Character Interpretation]]:

** All the [[Cliché Storm]] and [[Unfortunate Implications]] examples are ''completely'' intentional gags in a subversive parody. It takes a few episodes to realize this. Listening to [[Refuge in Audacity|all of the stuff Sue]] says lets you know, though.

** Karofsky: A {{spoiler|[[The Woobie|tortured]] soul that is in love with the one thing he hates}}? Or a [[Jerkass]] who {{spoiler|forced a kiss on Kurt}} and [[Draco in Leather Pants|gained many fans]]?

** Blaine: a [[Knight in Shining Armor]], handsome, knowledgeable and all or a complete [[Mary Sue|Marty Stu]] without any personality?

* [[Anvilicious]]: Since the list was getting ridiculous, we now have a whole [[Glee/Theme|separate page]] dedicated to listing every episode's hard-to-miss theme.

* [[Arc Fatigue]]: Some people feel that the Dalton arc--when Kurt transferred to Dalton Academy to get away from bullying--was drawn out too long, and that Kurt was being [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad|overshadowed by Blaine and the Warblers in his own storyline]]. It was ''supposed'' to make a point about gay bullying, but for the most part amounted to little more than a few [[Big Lipped Alligator Moment|big lipped alligator moments]] and [[Yaoi]] scenes. According to [[Word of God]], the Warblers were only supposed to appear for two episodes of the second season, but their immense popularity led to them staying on the show much longer, possibly into the third season. Until "Born This Way", when Kurt finally returned to McKinley, it felt entirely possible that he would be staying there indefinitely.

* [[Ascended Fanon]]: The creators have admitted that the idea of Brittany/Santana as a serious, [[Official Couple]] started with the fans, that they never planned for them to be more than a one-off joke until they saw that the fans wanted more.

* [[Ascended Meme]]: In "Furt", Finn makes a speech about Portmanteau Couple Names in the school.

** Nominated for 19 Emmys in the 2010 Emmys and only won 4. The Best Comedy Emmy and Best Casting Emmys (Comedy) went to [[Modern Family]] instead. Of course, if [[Modern Family]] hadn't won those, this entry would be on its page.

** [[Dueling Shows|The fans of]] ''[[Community]]'' see Glee as being the cause of its own [[Award Snub]], as it got ''zero'' nominations.

* [[Base Breaker]]: Most characters.

** Rachel. Any online discussion of Glee tends to be hijacked by someone talking about how she's the best singer/actor/oh-so-oppressed, followed promptly by people expressing their disagreement by demonizing Rachel in every conceivable way. The Rachel worshippers then proceed to bash all of the characters who aren't Rachel to show how she isn't so bad, making the haters even more defensive, and things go back and forth until the original topic is completely forgotten.

*** There's also the divide on whether he's a hypocritical jerk who does not learn from his mistakes or just a naive representation of regular teenage boys.

*** It's really kicked into high gear with the events of "Mash-Off," where {{spoiler|he outs Santana in a crowded hallway as a reaction to her bullying.}} See "Broken Base" below for details.

** Blaine. You either want him to get his own spin off show so you could see him more frequently or you want him to get one so he stops showing up in Glee.

** Artie. Is he the chronically misunderstood [[Only Sane Man]] who just wants to be loved, or is he a raging misogynist [[Karma Houdini]] who doesn't deserve anything less than being shoved off a cliff? THE GLEE WORLD MAY NEVER KNOW. (This started with his sexist comments to Tina in "The Power of Madonna," but really rose to prominence due to [[Die for Our Ship|getting in the way]] of [[Fan-Preferred Couple]] Brittany/Santana.)

** Mercedes has never been a universally-popular character, but the events of the beginning of S3 (particularly surrounding her audition for ''West Side Story'') have really inflamed her [[Hatedom]], which has, in turn, made her fans more defensive.

** Even before his first appearance on the show, [[All Gays Are Promiscuous|Sebastian]] [[Fan Nickname|Warbler]] already had people who knew about him divided, especially the Klaine fandom.

** At one point the club is performing one of their songs onstage in front of a closed curtain. At the climax of the song, the curtain opens and an ''entire gospel choir is revealed'' and sings along with the cast. This is never brought up again.

** "Make 'em Laugh" from "The Substitute" was just a dream sequence Will had from being sick and watching ''[[Singin' in the Rain|Singin in The Rain]]'' too much.

** And while the shippers loved it, Kurt and Blaine's slow-mo run down a hallway seems a little out of place.

*** It also seemed that way to [[Chris Colfer]], who said that the scene 'was too gay even for ''me''.'

** While the Aesop in "Blame it on the Alcohol" was good, the kids most likely threw up onstage not because they were drunk but because what they drank contained [[Gargle Blaster|various remnants of Rachel's dads' liquor cabinet, kool-aid]], [[Squick|cough syrup, and crumbled up oreos]]. Many believe the episode to be a [[Spoof Aesop]] that's been [[Getting Crap Past the Radar|thinly disguised to appease the network.]]

** Another one in "Blame it on the Alcohol": Kurt says that bisexuality is a myth used by people who are afraid of being "totally gay," and Blaine calls him out on it. In the end, Blaine realizes that he isn't actually bi because he has no chemistry with Rachel. So bisexuality isn't a shield to hide your gayness, it's just brought on by drunkeness!

** Many feel that the bullying storyline became this when Kurt moved to Dalton and met [[Mary Sue|Blaine]], because most bullied kids don't have that option.

** There seems to even be one in-story in "Born This Way." The word Will writes on the board is acceptance and then tells the kids to make t-shirts about things that make them different and special that they should embrace because they can't change, and most of the kids do that but Will tells Emma that her shirt should have been about her OCD, and while she does need to admit that she's OCD, it's not something that she should just accept because it can be changed and in Emma's case it really needs to change because her OCD is having severe effects on her ability to live her life.

** Over the question of whether Rachel or Mercedes is the better singer, an argument which tends to divide along issues of musical taste (those who prefer Broadway or pop tend to prefer Rachel; R&B and hip-hop fans tend to prefer Mercedes).

** In the first half of Season 1, there was a sort of "Team Rachel"/"Team Quinn" rivalry between fans of the two characters. (Not in terms of which one belonged more with Finn - with Quinn lying to him about her pregnancy, most fans were on Rachel's side with that one - but with the issue of which one was generally more sympathetic or had more right to feel "wronged" by the other.)

*** That's not to mention the following episode. Many people believe that Finn was very [[Easily Forgiven]] and that an episode that ''should'' have been focused on {{spoiler|Britanny and Santana's relationship}} was instead focused on Finn for no real reason. The one ''given'' by Finn was that Santana was the one who took his virginity, so [[Ass Pull|he allegedly selflessly cares about the fact that her not being out is hurting her emotionally.]] Nevermind the fact that [[Discontinuity|in the prior episode]] he just seemed to have been pushed to the edge by Santana's [[Hollywood Pudgy|verbal attacks on his weight]] so he wanted to get back at her.

** 'Dance With Somebody' broke the base with {{spoiler|Kurt's cheating storyline}} and Blaine's reaction to it through song; part of the base sided fully with Blaine and despised Kurt for {{spoiler|flirting with Chandler}}; some didn't side with either; and some sided with Kurt as they saw Blaine's behavior as hypocritical given his pre-"Michael" relationship with Sebastian.

** Holly Holiday. Any flaws she has only add a sense of nobility to her, and she's loved by everyone.

** Blaine also fits this trope to a T. Even when he makes a mistake, it's not his fault. There's always something else to blame.

** Don't forget Briano (Brad, the piano player for New Directions and his piano. Though he cheats on it with the keyboard from time to time)

* [[Cliché Storm]] / [[Troperrific]]: Critics charge that the show relies too much on hackneyed plot devices; the show really tends to revel in the charge. The fans love it though, and the writers certainly know what they're getting into.

* [[Completely Missing the Point]]: The "Umbrella/Singin' in the Rain" mash-up was supposed to make "Singin'" a bit more modern and enjoyable for the kids. Instead it's basically "Umbrella" with half of the chorus switched out. And most of the "Singin'" parts are only sung by Will anyways, so the kids don't have to do any of the old music anyways. At least it was mostly enjoyable to listen to.

** Kurt in 'Blame It On The Alcohol' says that Karofsky 'didn't like who I am'. Kurt must be really dense not to understand that the person Karofsky actually hates is ''himself'' and that Kurt is an object of admiration/stand-in for the parts of himself he hates the most. Then again, Kurt has also [[Completely Missing the Point|completely missed the point]] in Season 1, with all his [[Depraved Homosexual]] behavior towards Finn which was barely touched upon in 'Duets' and tends to be excused by [[Fan Dumb|his fans]].

* [[Crack Pairing]]: Artie's relationship with Brittany, at least initially.

** Crack pairings seem to be a part of the show. Others include: Puck/Rachel, Puck/Mercedes, Kurt/Brittany, Artie/Becky, Will/Sue, and Puck/Shelby

** Holly Holiday. It definitely feels this way for people who don't like Holly, since Ryan Murphy called the actress who plays her "Glee's muse" and seems fond of the character by association.

** There was a lot of backlash against Finn in Season 2 for this very reason, to the point of there being a "Hypocritical Finn" meme. Detractors point out that anyone wronging him is automatically the bad guy, and anytime he does something wrong he's meant to be sympathetic, despite the fact that he's often doing the very same things that cause other characters to get painted as douchebags and villains. The backlash got even worse in Season 3, after he {{spoiler|outed Santana}}, and suffered no consequences other than her slapping him. Even his gay stepbrother, and raised-by-gay-dads girlfriend, don't say anything, and in the following episode it seems that everyone is convinced that Finn did the ''right thing''.

*** Fan reaction got even more split as of season 3 where he became less of a [[Canon Sue]] and more as a [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad|Spotlight Stealing]] [[Shallow Love Interest]].

*** Well YMMV because it seems that alot of people claim Blaine steals time from others, when in reality, he hardly got any material outside of being Kurt's boyfriend, and others got a ton more time than him this season. In fact, Season 3 was more like the Finchel show with even the people on The Morning After saying that Blaine had gotten Glee's Asian Treatment (read: reduced to the background; human prop only to be used for songs on occasion)

* [[Denser and Wackier]]: Many have noticed a general trend in this direction. The first half of the first season was a lot darker and, except for explicit fantasy sequences, seemed committed to making sure their stage numbers were possible in a school undergoing a budget crisis. Since the second half of Season 1, it's increasingly moved away from realistic musical numbers, with brand-new, out-of-this-world costumes for every number and extras ranging from harpists to gospel choirs.

** Quinn couldn't have found out the sex of her baby since she's ten weeks pregnant. It's too early in the pregnancy.

** One episode features rabid Twilight fans decked out in capes and fake fangs attacking a poor kid named Jacob. This is either a [[Did Not Do the Research]] [[Take That]] at ''[[Twilight (novel)|Twilight]]'' (whose vampires do not have fangs and do not wear capes) or a shot at Principal Figgins and the books' fans.

'''Holly Holiday:''' Because we're in Japan. }}

*** They're sitting cross-legged. Women ''never'' sit cross-legged on the floor in Japan: men do that.

** Artie. At PaleyFest 2011, Kevin McHale revealed that he often gets "hate Tweets" from Brittana shippers, protesting "[[I Am Not Spock|I'm not Artie!]]"

** Quinn, Blaine and {{spoiler|Mercedes}} all got this from the Kurt/Sam shippers. Blaine got it the most, but {{spoiler|Mercedes}} is likely to get more of it with Sam's return in "Hold on to Sixteen," which includes trying to win her back.

** Puck. The fangirls were all over him long before he showed any signs of depth.

** Karofsky has this among some fans despite injuring, threatening, and trying to force himself upon Kurt.

*** Um, Blaine DID back off Kurt in TFT and he kind of had the right to be pissed at him in DWS because what he was doing with Chandler WAS cheating.

**** He backed off AFTER KURT THREW HIM OUT OF THE CAR, so actually he didn't back off, he was FORCED to back off. And though two wrongs don't make a right, he had NO RIGHT to be angry at Kurt because if Kurt's actions were cheating, so (and even worse) were his with Sebastian.

** Finn. His behavior has been pretty terrible in the last two seasons, but there are still many fans of his and the 'Finchel' relationship.

**** Those fans seem to reside mostly in the writing room, according to the episodes.

** Santana, as many of her fans tend to downplay her role in bullying other characters to turn her into [[The Woobie]] due to her torment over her sexuality.

* [[Drinking Game]]: Take a shot every time the word "Funk" is used in episode 21. And every time the word "distraction" or "distract" is used in episode "Hairography".

** Or how many times [[Michael Jackson]]'s famous high pitched "hee hee" is used in the "Michael" episode

** Kurt is frequently cited as the show's "breakout star," as is Sue Sylvester.

** An actor version: [[Hey, It's That Guy!|Mike O'Malley]], who plays Kurt's father, was basically a stalwart of mediocre sitcoms ([[Yes, Dear]]), Nickelodeon game shows and commercials. In ''Glee,'' he routinely turns out subtle and heartfelt performances. His character, Burt, as well.

** Blaine, who's won a lot of fans over with his good looks and excellent voice.

** Holly Holiday, played by Gwyneth Paltrow, going from a celebrity guest spot to a recurring character and [[Love Interest]] for Will. She's the most frequently-recurring celebrity guest on the show, due to the character's popularity with viewers and the fact that her nature (a substitute teacher who can't stay in one place for long) is easy to work around Paltrow's schedule.

** Jeff and Nick, two background Warblers who have only had one line between them, have been swooped upon by the shippers, pairing them with Kurt, Blaine, or each other.

* [[Evil Is Cool]]: Why Sue started out as one of the most popular characters on the show, before turning into an [[Overly Long Gag]].

* [[Family-Unfriendly Aesop]]: ''Rocky Horror Glee Show'' attempted to tack on an aesop at the end by say "Freaks and outcasts are better off seperating themselves from society because they aren't appreciated." Huh?

** There's a sizeable group of Mercedes/Amber Riley fans called the "Mercedes Mafia".

** Many of the ships have their own names. Klaine has Klainers, Niff has Nifflers, Brittana has "Gay Sharks" (after Brittany's meme-spawning quip), Kurtofsky has 'Pirates' (because fans have decided that it's a 'pirate' ship) and Sory has Sponsors (after Sam was Rory's Christmas sponsor, and agreed to be his Valentine's Day sponsor as well).

** Finn is nicknamed "[[Franken Teen]]" due to his height, inability to cheer, and sometimes-stiff dancing.

** Many people refer to Tina and Mike as "Asian and Other Asian".

** Blaine is 'Hobbit' in many fanfic, especially the Kurtofsky ones.

* [[Fan-Preferred Couple]]: There have been several over the course of the series but the current one is Quinn/Rachel. Previous ones include Rachel/Puck, Klaine and Brittany/Santana

** Rachel and Quinn< Anyone?

** Kurt wants to lock Rachel in his basement. Okay. Until one remembers that his basement is also his bedroom. That doesn't have sexual undertones due to his sexuality, but one does have to wonder why he'd want to lock someone he has so many issues with in the place where he sleeps.

*** Then, there's the fact Kurt is just as determined as the other boys to go after Jesse when Jesse eggs Rachel. Rachel gets one by sending the football-playing Glee boys after the guy who has been terrifying Kurt.

** Say what you want about the "Smooth Criminal" cover, but it's painfully obvious that Sebastian and Santana are both ''oozing'' this, despite the [[Incompatible Orientation]].

** Also, Kurt and Sebastian. Sometimes their sniping at each other seems to take this turn.

* [[Funny Aneurysm Moment]]: Fandom-wise, a lot of people thought that Kurt and Blaine nominated/elected for Prom King(s) would be awesome, and many affectionate jokes about Kurt being the Prom ''Queen'' ensued. At least part of it was because some people just didn't want the other candidates to be prom queen, particularly Quinn for being [[Serious Business|creepily obsessed about it]], but also Santana for blackmailing Karofsky into being her beard and rejecting Brittany, and Lauren for cruelly leaking Quinn's "[[Formerly Fat|former identity]]" to the school. Then the episode "Prom Queen" rolls around {{spoiler|and Kurt is elected Prom Queen ''as a horrible joke.''}} Yeah, Ryan Murphy? ''[[Tear Jerker|You're a bastard.]]''

** Actually was it ever confirmed to be a joke in the first place? This troper doesn't recal anyone laughing or booing or making fun of Kurt after the results were announced, and always just assumed that Kurt *jumped to the conclusion* that it was a joke because he's so used to being bullied that its the only response he has.

** "Rumours" revealed that {{spoiler|Sam's family have become victims of the recession, and live in a motel room.}} Care to remember what song he sang for his New Directions audition? That's right, {{spoiler|"Billionaire".}}

** In "Pilot", Finn was blackmailed into joining ND when Will claimed he had found marijuana in his locker. That's so funny!...until we find out that Finn's actor, [[Cory Monteith]], dropped out of high school due to serious drug addiction problems.

** In a more heartbreaking example, the friday before "Heart" the 2012 Valentine's day episode, The music was released for the episode featuring {{spoiler|Mercedes doing a cover of [[Whitney Houston]]'s hit "I will always love you" the day before Whitney's untimely passing}}

*** Here in Israel it was said to be a gesture for her that the creators managed to work up quickly.

** [[Darren Criss|We love you]] [[A Very Potter Musical|Harry Potter!]]

** [[Neil Patrick Harris|Barney]] [[How I Met Your Mother|Stinson]], that guy's awesome!

** One episode used the song "Gold Digger" mere ''days'' before [[Kanye West]] made an ass of himself at the VMAs.

** Emma in episode 3:

{{quote|"They say it takes certainty more than talent to make a star. I mean, look at John Stamos."}}

{{quote|'''Kurt''': "Can we discuss the elephant in the room?"

'''Santana''': "Your sexuality?" }}

*** How about in "Silly Love Songs"? She says that kissing Finn isn't worth paying a dollar for, but she would pay to jiggle one of his "man-boobs." Of course we'd all find out later her affinity for boobs.

** Puck's line to Quinn in Season 1.

* [[Ho Yay]]: So much it has its own page [[Glee/Ho Yay|here]].

* [[Hype Backlash]]: It's been experiencing this, since the show's win at the Golden Globes / Emmy nomination.

** And when she points that out he explains that {{spoiler|when they cheated on him, it meant that they didn't love him}}.

** Blaine in "'Dance With Somebody" tears down Kurt for flirting through texts with a guy he met in a music store, despite allowing Sebastian's flirtation for months. Blaine does address this, saying that his communication with Sebastian was always "family-friendly," as the show itself seems undecided in whether Blaine's telling the truth or [[Blatant Lies|just trying to save face]].

** Also all the Glee Club members who join in 'It's Not Right But It's OK'. Almost ''all'' of them have cheated or helped cheating on someone.

** Sue is this for many people since she preached against bullying even though she's one of the most vicious ones herself.

* [[Idiot Plot]]: The entire fight between Kurt, Finn, and Burt in "Theatricality". Kurt for being too caught up in his ridiculous fantasy to accept that Finn is straight and going to insane lengths to be close to him, Finn for completely failing to articulate the very real [[Squick|squickiness]] of Kurt's harassment without using a slur and attacking Kurt's homosexuality specifically, and Burt for jumping into the fight without listening to anything other than a single word Finn used.

** Most of the episodes in season 3 have ''at least'' one of these.

* [[Launcher of a Thousand Ships]]: Puck, Rachel, Kurt. Finn and Santana as well.

** Jesse too, to the point where there are decent-sized fanbases shipping him with characters he has never actually met (ie Blaine and Harmony).

* [[Like You Would Really Do It]]: Played straight and subverted in the first season finale. {{spoiler|Glee club actually does lose at Regionals, but they ultimately are not disbanded thanks to a [[Big Damn Villains]] moment from Sue.}}

* [[Memetic Badass]]: Pavarotti, the Warblers mascot, seems to be headed in this direction.

** Sue Sylvester as well.

** Lord Tubbington.

** The "Say A Little Prayer" dance from Quinn, Brittany, and Santana's audition.

** It's become common for commentary on the show to invoke "Grilled Cheesus".

* [[Misaimed Fandom]]: An alarming number of fans think Sue is actually a good teacher.

** Except she is a good teacher or at least the school likes cheerleaders/Sue's semi celebrity status enough to keep her around.

* [[Moral Event Horizon]]: Terri lying about her pregnancy, for starters.

** Jesse after defecting back to Vocal Adrenaline, and later getting the entire group to egg Rachel after it appears he might still be a good guy, even though the way he guiltily looks away seems to suggest otherwise (in fact, there apparently was an apology scene in what was supposed to be the following episode, ''Theatricality'', but was cut because FOX [[The Firefly Effect|decided to air it first]].

** {{spoiler|The guys at Karofsky's new school crossed this when they outed him as gay, drove him to attempt suicide, and mocked him on Facebook even after his suicide attempt.}}

** For many Blaine's {{spoiler|thorough shaming of Kurt in front of his friends and WITH THE HELP of said friends despite having done worse and never apologized for it}}.

* [[Motive Decay]]: After Principal Figgins reveals in "Wheels" that the Cheerios boosters "write fat checks" to pay for most of their expenses, it becomes unclear why Sue needs to bring down New Directions in order to finance even her more lavish Cheerios demands. If her donors can finance plane tickets to Albuquerque, they can certainly afford a fog machine. So what is Sue's motive - [[For the Evulz|if she has one to begin with]]?

* [[Narm Charm]]: The unabashedly cheery [[Christmas Episode]] {{spoiler|aside from the Rachel/Finn subplot}} should have by all means been a non-stop [[Glurge]] fest, and yet it was one of the sweetest episodes of the series, especially {{spoiler|when Artie stood up.}}

*** Especially since his mother catches him doing it, forcing him to tell her about the baby.

* [[Nightmare Fuel]]: "I Am Unicorn" and "The First Time," due to a [[Hunting the Unicorn|certain fanfiction.]] "The First Time" in particular is ''really'' [[Harsher in Hindsight|harsh]] after you read ''[[Hunting the Unicorn]],'' since {{spoiler|Fic!Blaine only ''wishes'' it happened like that.}}

** And {{spoiler|Karofsky kissing Kurt}} in "Never Been Kissed", for some people.

** Kurt/Blaine for some people. Especially after ''The First Time'' and ''Dance With Somebody''.

** Also how many viewers reacted to {{spoiler|Will and Terri hooking up}} in "The Substitute."

** [[Official Couple|Finchel]] is quickly becoming this due to [[Seasonal Rot]].

** Wemma or Wilma (Will/Emma)

** [[Ascended Meme|Finchel]] ([[Official Couple|Finn/Rachel]])

** Quick (Quinn/Puck)

** Faberry/Quinchel (Quinn/Rachel)

** Winn (Will/Finn)

** Mark Salling requested that fans make Puck/Artie videos because "Puck + Artie = Party!" My God... He's [[One of Us|one of them!]]

** Brittana (Brittany/Santana), or "Santittany," according to [[One of Us|Naya Rivera]].

** Puckleberry Quinn!

** Tartie or Artina (Tina/Artie)

** There already exists Skurt or [[Double Entendre|Kum]] for Sam/Kurt fans.

*** Or the lesser used "Hevans".

** Chachang (Tina/Mike), also called [[Chang Squared]], Changcest, or Tike. [[Ascended Meme|Chitty Chitty Chang Chang]] was used on the actual show in "Prom Queen".

** Sack (Sam/Puck)

** Sebofsky is Sebastian/Karofsky. Though they're also known as [[Idiosyncratic Ship Naming|MeerCub]], since Kurt called Sebastian a meerkat and Dave said he was a bear cub.

** Rory/Sugar is Sugory or, occasionally, Sweet Potatoes.

** Faberritana as a combination of Quinn/Rachel/Santana/Brittany often crops out in the [[Les Yay]] part of the fandom

*** So does any combination out of those: Quinntana (Quinn/Santana), Quitt or Fierce (Quinn/Brittany), Pezberry (Santana/Rachel) and Pieberry (Brittany/Rachel)

** In the first two Warbler performances, fans of Power Rangers: Samurai might spot the gold ranger singing next to Blaine.

* [[Romantic Plot Tumor]]: Rachel and Finn's wedding storyline in Season 3 is very hated. Most fans are praying that it doesn't happen.

** Blaine's growing [[Base Breaker]] status in Season 3 turned ''Klaine'' into this as well.

* [[Ron the Death Eater]]: To put it as delicately as possible, some sections of fandom seem to be under the impression that certain characters are nothing BUT vices.

* [[Scapegoat Creator]]: Ryan Murphy is often the first person to get any flack for anything disliked on the show. Never mind that he not only doesn't write every episode but there are two other creators who are involved. Although, to be fair, he tends to be the one most likely to play [[Lying Creator]].

* [[The Scrappy]]: Even in Glee's incredibly divided fanbase, where just about everybody is a [[Base Breaker]], you'd still be hard-pressed to find viewers who like Jacob Ben-Israel.

** A lot of fans who didn't watch ''[[The Glee Project]]'' find some of the characters created for those actors, and their insertion into longer-running storylines focusing on existing characters, rather irritating. Particularly of note is Rory Flanagan, largely due to the fact that he has yet to be developed beyond [[Ethnic Scrappy|"the Irish character"]].

** Finn and Quinn in "Sectionals," when {{spoiler|Finn learns who the ''real'' father of Quinn's baby is.}} At least it seemed like it did until mid-Season 2, when they got back together only for the ship to be sunk ''again''.

** Episode 21 sinks Rachel/Jesse pretty definitively...or at least it did until he came back in Season 2, though it never got far off the ground even then.

** Season 3 involuntarily sinks Finchel and Klaine every time it tries to show how great they are.

* [[Ships That Pass in the Night]]: Rory has never interacted with Harmony or Sebastian, and the only time he was close to either would have been a brief moment during competitions. However both the Rormony and Rorbastian ships are strong. At least Rormany is justified, since it's basically a carry-over of [[Real Person Shipping|Damsay]] from ''[[The Glee Project]]''.

** Finn's "Hello, I Love You" number made it seem like he still had feelings for Quinn.

** Sue and Mr. Schue in Episode 21. That almost kiss? Hilarious.

** In the promos to Season 2, we saw Finn telling Quinn "I would be lying if I said I didn't have feelings for you" with a sad-looking Rachel watching from the sidelines. In "Britney/Brittany," we found out what was really going on: {{spoiler|First of all, the comment is more along the lines of "I still really like you, but I like Rachel more," as Finn's way of refusing Quinn's request to get back together. Then, we find Quinn asking Finn out was all a set-up anyway - Rachel had asked Quinn to do it to test if Finn really loved her.}}

* [[Sickeningly Sweethearts]]: {{spoiler|Kurt and Blaine}} showed shades of this in "The Substitute," particularly from the point of view from anyone not on that side of the ship war.

{{quote|"Gay, gay, gay, gay..."}}

* [[So Bad It's Good]]: Trouty Mouth

** And while we're on the subject some consider the show this

*** Why add {{spoiler|rock salt to the slushie}} if not too cause harm?

**** {{spoiler|Rock salt}} causes stains. Combined with the food dye in {{spoiler|the slushie}}, if that got on Kurt's clothes, it wasn't coming out EVER. Sebastian was trying to ruin Kurt's outfit.

***** Actually {{spoiler|rock salt has the effect of making ice 'colder', and thus melt slower. What Sebastian actually intended was for Kurt to get an extra-extra-cold slushie to the face,}} and thus the whole {{spoiler|prank gone wrong}} confession later on. Kudos to his understanding of chemistry though.

** Blaine's actions in season 3, committing bad acts yet never thinking of apologizing or letting others take the blame has shades of this.

* [[Straw Man Has a Point]]: Even if Sue's techniques are not the most correct, she is almost always proven right.

** The point gets lost in his over-the-top maliciousness, but Bryan Ryan's argument that the Glee Club kids shouldn't plan their lives around succeeding in show business isn't an unreasonable one - but there's a big difference between saying that they should have a back-up plan and his belief that they should abandon ''all'' hope of success in the arts before getting any idea of what their chances really are.

* [[Super Couple]]: Blaine and Kurt are listed on the trope page; for starters, their first kiss caused pretty much the entire LGBT-friendly world to rejoice, and with very good reason.

** Which is...?

{{quote|''"You're so talented!" "No, '''you're''' so talented!" *cue [[Wicked (theatre)|Wicked]] song* *hug*''}}

** ''Many'' Aesops and character-to-character moments come across this way to some people. The Kurt/Rachel interaction may be the biggest, [[Tastes Like Diabetes]] instigator, but there are arguably a lot of others.

** Kurt's behavior in "Grilled Cheesus" was treated as unreasonable, but was it, really? It would be one thing to tell friends they're not allowed to pray, but they went beyond praying - they made a big show of being religious in his dad's waiting room, despite the fact that no one except Carol, Finn and maybe Mercedes actually knew Burt. Also, Mercedes wouldn't accept Kurt's atheism until he went to church with her, but Kurt is supposed to be the intolerant one? No wonder some atheists [http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/comments/goodbye_to_glee/ got really pissed off].

*** This goes both ways. Some people think Kurt was being needlessly antagonistic to his friends, who were only trying to help in the only way they knew how. Arguably, they weren't making a big show of being religious either. They chose to visit and pray for Burt when he wasn't there (until he walked in unexpectedly). Also, "Furt" later establishes that Burt does believe in God and thus likely would have appreciated the prayers, which gets some people thinking that Kurt seemed to care more about what he wanted than what his dad, who was the patient/one being prayed.

** Speaking of Tina and Mike, the Asian jokes about them are moving toward [[Unfortunate Implications]], if not there already. At first the "dim sum with your mom" jokes were a cute gag, but since then it's become the defining feature of Tina and Mike's relationship and their character development this season, and no scene featuring them can get by without an Asian joke. When Tina asked Mike why "everything has to be Asian," she may as well have been speaking for the fans who wonder why they can't be more than a [[Token Ship]]. Season 3, however, seems to be moving the couple in a better direction with the storyline about Mike wanting to be a dancer and his dad not accepting that, although even that storyline is based on an Asian stereotype (that Asian parents always want their kids to become doctors).

*** The anti-abstinence messages continue in "The First Time," where Artie encourages three people(including one TEACHER) to lose their virginity just because he thinks it'll make their performances in ''[[West Side Story]]'' more realistic. When Rachel later objects to this, he tells her that she must have a "strange aversion to fun." [[It Got Worse|Even worse]], at the end of the episode everyone ''thanks him for being such a good director'', with no mention of how inappropriate his behavior was.

** Kurt's behavior in "Blame it on the Alcohol." Being upset that the guy you have a crush on is going on a date with a girl? That's one thing. Stating that bisexuality doesn't exist and how any guy who says that they're bi are really just closeted? And then being validated at the end of the episode? That's another thing entirely.

*** And then in that, you have people who argue that the gay male couple(Kurt/Blaine) gets more screen time and development than the lesbian couple(Santana/Brittany)

** The fact that most of the minority cast don't do that much compared to the white hetero/homo sexual couples.

** The fact that the two main storylines in ''On My Way'' have either been relegated to a small B-Plot (Quinn's car accident) and '''completely ignored''' (Dave's attempted suicide) come ''Big Brother'' because of [[Mary Sue|Blaine]]'s ([[They Just Didn't Care|thoroughly botched]]) [[Character Development]].

** Rachel {{spoiler|ending up getting into NYADA despite childishly pursuing the examinator and trying (successfully) to browbeat her into giving her another chance after choking at her tryout, which should've gotten her at least banned from tryouts for a year}} and Kurt {{spoiler|not getting in despite a stellar performance}}.

* [[Viewer Gender Confusion]]: Some viewers thought Coach Beiste was played by a male transvestite. In fact, she is played by a woman, Dot Jones. And on the other side of the gender spectrum, more than a few viewers thought Kurt was a girl at first due to his high-pitched voice and somewhat feminine facial features. Now that his actor is older and more well-established, it's less common, though it still happens on occasion for first-time watchers.

* [[What an Idiot!]]: Hiring Terri as the school nurse.

** Sure, Kurt, give the guy who ''assaulted your boyfriend'' the only evidence of his wrongdoing. Without showing it to anyone who could do something about it. "Now your teammates know what kind of a person you are"? No. They ''don't.'' Because ''they haven't heard the evidence.''

* [[What Do You Mean It's Not for Kids?]]: The show had a joke about oral sex in the very second episode, along with a dance routine that bordered on dry humping and was described as "giving [the audience]...sex!" The third episode had a student talk about how much he loves to have sex with older, married women when he cleans their pools. The fourth episode had the president of the celibacy club get pregnant, and lie to her boyfriend that it happened when he ejaculated prematurely in the pool. And so on and so forth. And yet, there are people complaining that a scene with two boys kissing was "inappropriate for the children who watch the show."

* [[WTH? Casting Agency]]: Kevin McHale is one of the best dancers on the cast, but it's ''his'' character who's in a wheelchair.

** It made a pretty interesting storyline/scene when he was daydreaming about being able to get up and dance, in the episode "Dream On". If the casting director had cast an actor who was actually handicapped, one can only imagine how that dance dream sequence would have gone.

** For core characters? Let's just cut to the chase: ''Everybody not named Sue or Terri.'' [[A Terri]], {{spoiler|especially after "Mattress."}}

** Let's add Sue to the list after "Grilled Cheesus" and "Funeral".

** Beiste in "Never Been Kissed."

*** Even more so in "Choke".

*** By 'Heart', he {{spoiler|has a crush on Kurt, whom he tries to woo with an endearing series of gorilla-grams, but Kurt thought the gorilla-grams were from Blaine and turns Karofsky down when he finds out. [[It Got Worse|Karofsky inadvertently outs himself to a guy from his new high school]] while [[Anguished Declaration of Love|spilling his heart out to Kurt]]}}

*** And in On My Way where he {{spoiler|''tries to [[Driven to Suicide|kill himself.]]''}} Wow.