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{{quote|''"[[Just Here for Godzilla|But we're all here]] for [[Rule of Sean Connery|Connery]], let's face it."''|'''[[The Nostalgia Chick]]''', on ''[[Dragonheart]]''}}
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An enclave of female fans within a traditionally male-dominated fandom. They tend to focus on a particular character or actor, rather than the entire series. Occasionally both sides [[Fan Dumb|butt heads over largely superficial reasons]], with buckets of opposite-sex awkwardness, which can get defensive. It should also be noted that ''not'' all female fans within such a fandom are necessarily of the Estrogen Brigade.
An enclave of female fans within a traditionally male-dominated fandom. They tend to focus on a particular character or actor, rather than the entire series. Occasionally both sides [[Fan Dumb|butt heads over largely superficial reasons]], with buckets of opposite-sex awkwardness, which can get defensive. It should also be noted that ''not'' all female fans within such a fandom are necessarily of the Estrogen Brigade.


Unfortunately, it is because of this phenomenon that female fans are sometimes regarded with suspicion -- especially if she admits that she does, in fact, happen to find some of the male cast members to be physically pleasing to the eye. However, finding certain members of the cast to be pleasing to look at does not necessarily preclude a fan from liking other aspects of a particular work -- and, thus, should not automatically invalidate her (or him) as being a "[[Fandom Heresy|true fan]]".
Unfortunately, it is because of this phenomenon that female fans are sometimes regarded with suspicion—especially if she admits that she does, in fact, happen to find some of the male cast members to be physically pleasing to the eye. However, finding certain members of the cast to be pleasing to look at does not necessarily preclude a fan from liking other aspects of a particular work—and, thus, should not automatically invalidate her (or him) as being a "[[Fandom Heresy|true fan]]".


An Estrogen Brigade is easily attracted by hints of [[Ho Yay]], since most members of such brigades seem to be [[Yaoi Fangirl|Yaoi Fangirls]] at heart. See also [[Multiple Demographic Appeal]].
An Estrogen Brigade is easily attracted by hints of [[Ho Yay]], since most members of such brigades seem to be [[Yaoi Fangirl]]s at heart. See also [[Multiple Demographic Appeal]].


Not to be confused with [[Amazon Brigade]]. Its [[Spear Counterpart]] is the [[Testosterone Brigade]].
Not to be confused with [[Amazon Brigade]]. Its [[Spear Counterpart]] is the [[Testosterone Brigade]].
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== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==
== [[Anime]] and [[Manga]] ==
* ''[[Code Geass]]''. Many female fans are there for [[Ho Yay]] and [[Bishonen|bishies]]. And there's no shortage of either.
* ''[[Code Geass]]''. Many female fans are there for [[Ho Yay]] and [[Bishonen|bishies]]. And there's no shortage of either.
* ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' has one of these, as do its later spinoffs.
* ''[[Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' has one of these, as do its later spinoffs.
* The enormous amounts of fangirls virtually every character in ''[[Naruto]]'' has, principally with the very [[Bishonen]] characters like Sasuke, Naruto, and Neji (but even [[Gonk|Rock Lee]] isn't without his fans).
* The enormous amounts of fangirls virtually every character in ''[[Naruto]]'' has, principally with the very [[Bishonen]] characters like Sasuke, Naruto, and Neji (but even [[Gonk|Rock Lee]] isn't without his fans).
* [[Walking Shirtless Scene|Ramses]] from [[Anatolia Story]]. As well as Kail, [[Nice Guy|Zananza]] [[Romantic Runner-Up|Hattusili]], [[The Stoic|Urhi]], Juda as a grown-up and arguably Kash and [[The Woobie|Rusafa]]. Let's not forget [[Draco in Leather Pants|Mattiwaza]].
* [[Walking Shirtless Scene|Ramses]] from [[Anatolia Story]]. As well as Kail, [[Nice Guy|Zananza]] [[Romantic Runner-Up|Hattusili]], [[The Stoic|Urhi]], Juda as a grown-up and arguably Kash and [[The Woobie|Rusafa]]. Let's not forget [[Draco in Leather Pants|Mattiwaza]].
* ''[[Berserk]]'' is set in an ultra violent universe where being female is an even worse fate then [[Crapsack World|just being born in it]] but the deep storyline and compelling characters have universal appeal. That and the fact that [[Badass|Guts]] and [[Bishonen|Griffith]] get naked almost as often as the ladies and have a rather [[Ho Yay|intense]] [[Foe Yay|relationship.]]
* ''[[Berserk]]'' is set in an ultra violent universe where being female is an even worse fate then [[Crapsack World|just being born in it]] but the deep storyline and compelling characters have universal appeal. That and the fact that [[Badass|Guts]] and [[Bishonen|Griffith]] get naked almost as often as the ladies and have a rather [[Ho Yay|intense]] [[Foe Yay|relationship.]]
* Toshiro [[White-Haired Pretty Boy|Hitsugaya]] of ''[[Bleach]]'' has such a huge one that he even got his own movie; it's probably a major reason why he ranked the highest in a recent character poll.
* Toshiro [[White-Haired Pretty Boy|Hitsugaya]] of ''[[Bleach]]'' has such a huge one that he even got his own movie; it's probably a major reason why he ranked the highest in a recent character poll.
** To a ''slightly'' lesser extent, Cuarta Espada [[Eerie Pale-Skinned Brunette|Ulquiorra]] [[The Stoic|Cifer]] made it to the top 10 of that poll.
** To a ''slightly'' lesser extent, Cuarta Espada [[Eerie Pale-Skinned Brunette|Ulquiorra]] [[The Stoic|Cifer]] made it to the top 10 of that poll.
** [[Jerk with a Heart of Gold|Ichigo]] [[Clothing Damage|Kurosaki]] and [[Evil Counterpart|Grimmjow]] [[Blood Knight|Jaegerjaquez]], who scored 3rd and 4th in that poll respectively. Especially for the [[Yaoi Fangirl|Yaoi Fangirls]].
** [[Jerk with a Heart of Gold|Ichigo]] [[Clothing Damage|Kurosaki]] and [[Evil Counterpart|Grimmjow]] [[Blood Knight|Jaegerjaquez]], who scored 3rd and 4th in that poll respectively. Especially for the [[Yaoi Fangirl]]s.
** Uryū Ishida ranked five despite being [[Out of Focus]]. [[Megane|It]] [[Nerds Are Sexy|says]] [[Fetish Fuel|something]].
** Uryū Ishida ranked five despite being [[Out of Focus]]. [[Megane|It]] [[Nerds Are Sexy|says]] [[Fetish Fuel|something]].
** [[Aloof Big Brother|Byakuya]] [[Tall, Dark and Handsome|Kuchiki]] ranked ''7th' in the latest popularity poll.
** [[Aloof Big Brother|Byakuya]] [[Tall, Dark and Handsome|Kuchiki]] ranked ''7th' in the latest popularity poll.
** Before Grimmjow and Ulquiorra showed up, [[Fetish Fuel Station Attendant|Renji]] [[Fiery Redhead|Abarai]] ranked as either 3rd or 4th in the polls he was in, while [[Draco in Leather Pants|Gin Ichimaru]] consistently made it as the 5th.
** Before Grimmjow and Ulquiorra showed up, [[Fetish Fuel Station Attendant|Renji]] [[Fiery Redhead|Abarai]] ranked as either 3rd or 4th in the polls he was in, while [[Draco in Leather Pants|Gin Ichimaru]] consistently made it as the 5th.
** [[Good Scars, Evil Scars|Shuhei]] [[Martial Pacifist|Hisagi]] is exceedingly popular in [[Ho Yay|certain all-female domains]] of the fandom.
** [[Good Scars, Evil Scars|Shuhei]] [[Martial Pacifist|Hisagi]] is exceedingly popular in [[Ho Yay|certain all-female domains]] of the fandom.
** [[Lovable Sex Maniac|Kisuke]] [[Trickster Mentor|Urahara]] is [[Ensemble Darkhorse|near-universally beloved by the fandom]] as it is, but he's ''especially'' liked by female fans, enough that several even claim him to be the [[Alternative Character Interpretation|most interesting]] male for his [[Omniscient Morality License|unpredictability]]. To put it into perspective, when a pervert is listed as a [[Fetish Fuel Station Attendant]], ''because'' he [[Power Perversion Potential|admits that he's a pervert]], you know you're dealing with dedicated fangirls.
** [[Lovable Sex Maniac|Kisuke]] [[Trickster Mentor|Urahara]] is [[Ensemble Darkhorse|near-universally beloved by the fandom]] as it is, but he's ''especially'' liked by female fans, enough that several even claim him to be the [[Alternative Character Interpretation|most interesting]] male for his [[Omniscient Morality License|unpredictability]]. To put it into perspective, when a pervert is listed as a [[Fetish Fuel Station Attendant]], ''because'' he [[Power Perversion Potential|admits that he's a pervert]], you know you're dealing with dedicated fangirls.
** Shinji Hirako isn't necessarily the most attractive guy around the block, but he's certainly the one with the most class, style and wit.
** Shinji Hirako isn't necessarily the most attractive guy around the block, but he's certainly the one with the most class, style and wit.
** Back in his [[Bishonen]] days, [[Big Bad|Sosuke]] [[The Chessmaster|Aizen]] qualified as a [[Draco in Leather Pants]]; he had a suave, Machiavellian vibe about him, with a charming voice and charming looks that can easily swoon a girl over in no time. He's [[Wham! Episode|one of the reasons]] ''Bleach'' made it as far as it did, and he's [[Villain Sue|one of]] [[Creator's Pet|the reasons]] ''Bleach'' was considered to have [[Jumped the Shark]] for a while.
** Back in his [[Bishonen]] days, [[Big Bad|Sosuke]] [[The Chessmaster|Aizen]] qualified as a [[Draco in Leather Pants]]; he had a suave, Machiavellian vibe about him, with a charming voice and charming looks that can easily swoon a girl over in no time. He's [[Wham! Episode|one of the reasons]] ''Bleach'' made it as far as it did, and he's [[Villain Sue|one of]] [[Creator's Pet|the reasons]] ''Bleach'' was considered to have [[Jumped the Shark]] for a while.
** Just rivaling Grimmjow and Ulquiorra is Coyote Starrk, who gets points for being [[The Woobie]] and a [[Non-Malicious Monster]], compared to the rest of his Espada colleagues.
** Just rivaling Grimmjow and Ulquiorra is Coyote Starrk, who gets points for being [[The Woobie]] and a [[Non-Malicious Monster]], compared to the rest of his Espada colleagues.
** Amongst all of the Fraccion, the one with the most fangirls happens to be the extremely effeminate, but ridiculously attractive-sounding Ggio Vega, a clear-cut [[Bishonen]] that ''wants'' to be [[The Tease]].
** Amongst all of the Fraccion, the one with the most fangirls happens to be the extremely effeminate, but ridiculously attractive-sounding Ggio Vega, a clear-cut [[Bishonen]] that ''wants'' to be [[The Tease]].
** '''Swords''' can have their own fandoms; for every Hitsugaya, Byakuya and Hisagi fangirl, there's one for [[The Quiet One|Hyorinmaru]] (an older-looking Hitsugaya), [[Bishonen|Senbonzakura]] (gets a shot of his wet body on the mens' bath) and [[Ax Crazy|Kazeshini]] (a demonic-looking [[Badass]] with [[Kissho Taniyama]] providing his voice), despite the latter looking like a demonic, black-skinned [[Alien|Xenomorph]] . Hell, there's even an Estrogen Brigade for [[Jerkass Woobie|Muramasa]], an [[Expy]] of Ulquiorra, Shuren, an effeminate [[Smug Snake]], and {{spoiler|Kokuto}}, a [[Complete Monster]] that really enjoyed pissing Ichigo off. Let's face it, ''Bleach'' is filled to the absolute brim with [[Mr. Fanservice]].
** '''Swords''' can have their own fandoms; for every Hitsugaya, Byakuya and Hisagi fangirl, there's one for [[The Quiet One|Hyorinmaru]] (an older-looking Hitsugaya), [[Bishonen|Senbonzakura]] (gets a shot of his wet body on the mens' bath) and [[Ax Crazy|Kazeshini]] (a demonic-looking [[Badass]] with [[Kissho Taniyama]] providing his voice), despite the latter looking like a demonic, black-skinned [[Alien|Xenomorph]] . Hell, there's even an Estrogen Brigade for [[Jerkass Woobie|Muramasa]], an [[Expy]] of Ulquiorra, Shuren, an effeminate [[Smug Snake]], and {{spoiler|Kokuto}}, a [[Complete Monster]] that really enjoyed pissing Ichigo off. Let's face it, ''Bleach'' is filled to the absolute brim with [[Mr. Fanservice]].
* ''[[The Prince of Tennis]]'' has a huge [[Estrogen Brigade]] following.
* ''[[The Prince of Tennis]]'' has a huge Estrogen Brigade following.
** That's more or less its only following. The show is a convoluted mess used to display [[Bishonen|Bishonens]] to [[Invoked Trope|invoke this trope]].
** That's more or less its only following. The show is a convoluted mess used to display [[Bishonen]]s to [[Invoked Trope|invoke this trope]].
* Zoro and Sanji from ''[[One Piece]]'', being manly and the most conventionally attractive males, tend to be the biggest fangirl-bait in [[One Piece]], which has a significantly-sized female fandom. [[Most Fanfic Writers Are Girls|It's no surprising that those two are also the most commonly paired together in fanfic]].
* Zoro and Sanji from ''[[One Piece]]'', being manly and the most conventionally attractive males, tend to be the biggest fangirl-bait in [[One Piece]], which has a significantly-sized female fandom. [[Most Fanfic Writers Are Girls|It's no surprising that those two are also the most commonly paired together in fanfic]].
** It's often suspected that Ace was introduced to show what Luffy will look like once he's aged up a bit.
** It's often suspected that Ace was introduced to show what Luffy will look like once he's aged up a bit.
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* ''[[Death Note]]'': [[Light Is Not Good|Light]] [[Dark Messiah|Yagami]]. Just [[Ax Crazy|Light]] [[A God Am I|Yagami]]. And L fangirls. [[Completely Missing the Point|And Mello. And Near. And maybe Matt, but he only had a brief appearance before being]] [[Incredibly Lame Pun|"lighted"]]. Matsuda and Aizawa too. So, really, [[Dissimile|not "just Light Yagami" at all]].
* ''[[Death Note]]'': [[Light Is Not Good|Light]] [[Dark Messiah|Yagami]]. Just [[Ax Crazy|Light]] [[A God Am I|Yagami]]. And L fangirls. [[Completely Missing the Point|And Mello. And Near. And maybe Matt, but he only had a brief appearance before being]] [[Incredibly Lame Pun|"lighted"]]. Matsuda and Aizawa too. So, really, [[Dissimile|not "just Light Yagami" at all]].
** L certainly isn't lacking in female fans himself.
** L certainly isn't lacking in female fans himself.
* Back when the show was airing on ''Toonami'', ''[[Dragonball Z]]'' gathered up an [[Estrogen Brigade]] larger than the rest of the North American fanbase.
* Back when the show was airing on ''Toonami'', ''[[Dragonball Z]]'' gathered up an Estrogen Brigade larger than the rest of the North American fanbase.
* Though ''[[Katekyo Hitman Reborn]]'' is a [[Shonen]], it's safe to say that many of its fans are actually [[Yaoi Fangirl|Yaoi Fangirls]]. Surprisingly there is actually a lot less headbutting, since any male fans tend to avoid most of the online forums or have their voices drowned out amongst the [[Squee]].
* Though ''[[Katekyo Hitman Reborn]]'' is a [[Shonen]], it's safe to say that many of its fans are actually [[Yaoi Fangirl]]s. Surprisingly there is actually a lot less headbutting, since any male fans tend to avoid most of the online forums or have their voices drowned out amongst the [[Squee]].
** Not necessarily true, it has quite a lot of male fans too if you know where to look (hint: NOT livejournal and fanfiction.net).
** Not necessarily true, it has quite a lot of male fans too if you know where to look (hint: NOT livejournal and fanfiction.net).
** Over on [[Fanfiction.net]], there seems to be an interesting amount of OC stories that either pair up [[Bishonen|the slew of existing characters]] with their [[Mary Sue|soulmates]] or decide to [[Continuation|go into the future with the Vongola whatever]]. However, [[Most Fanfic Writers Are Girls|those attempting to invert the trope]], oftentimes [[Invoked Trope|end up failing hard]].
** Over on [[Fanfiction.net]], there seems to be an interesting amount of OC stories that either pair up [[Bishonen|the slew of existing characters]] with their [[Mary Sue|soulmates]] or decide to [[Continuation|go into the future with the Vongola whatever]]. However, [[Most Fanfic Writers Are Girls|those attempting to invert the trope]], oftentimes [[Invoked Trope|end up failing hard]].
* Though the article says it is rare, ''[[Ouran High School Host Club]]'' has a substantial male following for two main reasons -- [[Rule of Funny|it's very funny]], and [[Bifauxnen|Haruhi]] is [[Moe|cute]].
* Though the article says it is rare, ''[[Ouran High School Host Club]]'' has a substantial male following for two main reasons -- [[Rule of Funny|it's very funny]], and [[Bifauxnen|Haruhi]] is [[Moe|cute]].
** There's also an in-show [[Estrogen Brigade]] for each and every male character, as well as an IRL one.
** There's also an in-show Estrogen Brigade for each and every male character, as well as an IRL one.
* ''[[D.Gray-man]]'' is technically shonen, but with the sheer quantity of [[Bishonen]] and [[Mr. Fanservice]] like Allen, Kanda, Tyki, and Lavi, it's no wonder it tends to have a ''lot'' of female fans. But then, it ''is'' written by a woman, so maybe it's just [[Author Appeal]] lining up with the wishes of the fangirl masses.
* ''[[D.Gray-man]]'' is technically shonen, but with the sheer quantity of [[Bishonen]] and [[Mr. Fanservice]] like Allen, Kanda, Tyki, and Lavi, it's no wonder it tends to have a ''lot'' of female fans. But then, it ''is'' written by a woman, so maybe it's just [[Author Appeal]] lining up with the wishes of the fangirl masses.
* ''[[Higurashi no Naku Koro ni]]'''s fandom is mostly made out of females despite being far from a cute anime. [[Even the Girls Want Her|Each]] [[Bishonen|main character]] has a following, even the ones outside of the [[True Companions]].
* ''[[Higurashi no Naku Koro ni]]'''s fandom is mostly made out of females despite being far from a cute anime. [[Even the Girls Want Her|Each]] [[Bishonen|main character]] has a following, even the ones outside of the [[True Companions]].
* ''[[Gundam Wing]]'' introduced the [[Estrogen Brigade]] to [[Real Robot]] anime.
* ''[[Gundam Wing]]'' introduced the Estrogen Brigade to [[Real Robot]] anime.
** According to [[Yoshiyuki Tomino]], ''Gundam'' hasn't been a stranger to female fans ever since the [[Mobile Suit Gundam|original series]]. ''Wing'' was the ''Western'' entry point.
* While ''[[Durarara]]'' is [[Shonen|targeted to young males]], the series is infamous for the the huge [[Estrogen Brigade]] that congregates around [[Troubled but Cute|Shizuo]] and [[Evil Is Sexy|Izaya]].
* While ''[[Durarara!!]]'' is [[Shonen|targeted to young males]], the series is infamous for the the huge Estrogen Brigade that congregates around [[Troubled but Cute|Shizuo]] and [[Evil Is Sexy|Izaya]].
** How could you forget [[Moe|Mikado]] and [[Handsome Lech|Kida]]?
** How could you forget [[Moe|Mikado]] and [[Handsome Lech|Kida]]?
* Similarly, with ''[[Baccano]]'' it's probably easier to count the female fans who aren't into either [[Gender Blender Name|Claire]], Firo, or Luck.
* Similarly, with ''[[Baccano!]]'' it's probably easier to count the female fans who aren't into either [[Gender Blender Name|Claire]], Firo, or Luck.
** Or Ladd, or Graham, or Czeslaw.
** Or Ladd, or Graham, or Czeslaw.
* The ''[[Axis Powers Hetalia]]'' fandom is basically one huge estrogen brigade. Believe it or not, Hetalia was originally a [[Seinen]].
* The ''[[Axis Powers Hetalia]]'' fandom is basically one huge estrogen brigade. Believe it or not, Hetalia was originally a [[Seinen]].
* Most of the [[CLAMP]] fandom. It helps that CLAMP is basically one themselves.
* Most of the [[CLAMP]] fandom. It helps that CLAMP is basically one themselves.
* ''[[Saint Seiya]]'' maybe is the manga and anime which Clamp drew the doujin as their debut, this series being created by Kurumada guaranteed many bishonen to satisfy fangirls' eyes especially [[Yaoi Fangirl]] with it's infamous Libra Temple's scene between [[Dude Looks Like a Lady|Shun]] and [[Human Popsicle|Hyoga]]. Added that most of the male characters are more attractive than the females. And in sanctuary arc {{spoiler|Saga}} was taking a loooooooong bath time, no wonder there is so many bath scene fanart of him. All of these make one think if this series really created for boys, because there is only one [[Shower Scene]] for girl which not all fans even the male one even remember it.
* ''[[Saint Seiya]]'' maybe is the manga and anime which Clamp drew the doujin as their debut, this series being created by Kurumada guaranteed many bishonen to satisfy fangirls' eyes especially [[Yaoi Fangirl]] with it's infamous Libra Temple's scene between [[Dude Looks Like a Lady|Shun]] and [[Human Popsicle|Hyoga]]. Added that most of the male characters are more attractive than the females. And in sanctuary arc {{spoiler|Saga}} was taking a loooooooong bath time, no wonder there is so many bath scene fanart of him. All of these make one think if this series really created for boys, because there is only one [[Shower Scene]] for girl which not all fans even the male one even remember it.
* Thanks to estrogen-brigade drawing efforts of [[Hot Dad|Kotetsu]], [[Troubled but Cute|Barnaby]], and [[The Ace|Keith]], many fans of ''[[Tiger and Bunny]]'' started to suspect that it was specifically geared towards women and [[Yaoi Fangirl|Yaoi Fangirls]] despite statements to the contrary<ref>Kotetsu, for example, was written to draw in older ''men''</ref>.
* Thanks to estrogen-brigade drawing efforts of [[Hot Dad|Kotetsu]], [[Troubled but Cute|Barnaby]], and [[The Ace|Keith]], many fans of ''[[Tiger and Bunny]]'' started to suspect that it was specifically geared towards women and [[Yaoi Fangirl]]s despite statements to the contrary.<ref>Kotetsu, for example, was written to draw in older ''men''</ref>



== [[Comic Books]] ==
== [[Comic Books]] ==
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* [[The Phantom Menace|Darth Maul]] has an estrogen brigade.
* [[The Phantom Menace|Darth Maul]] has an estrogen brigade.
** At least one "estrogen brigade" site for Darth Maul that was done mostly tongue-in-cheek, and it was ''brilliant.''
** At least one "estrogen brigade" site for Darth Maul that was done mostly tongue-in-cheek, and it was ''brilliant.''
** Han Solo, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Luke, and Anakin can also be considered this
** Han Solo, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Luke, and Anakin can also be considered this
*** Let's just say all males except Palpatine and Dooku. [[X Wing Series|Wedge]] has one in the ''[[Star Wars Expanded Universe]]''; in one of the comics it's mentioned that he gets marriage proposals in the mail.
*** Let's just say all males except Palpatine and Dooku. [[X Wing Series|Wedge]] has one in the ''[[Star Wars Expanded Universe]]''; in one of the comics it's mentioned that he gets marriage proposals in the mail.
*** Canonically, Luke has about six Zeltron fangirls, and one [[Even the Guys Want Him|Zeltron fanboy]] in [[Marvel Star Wars]].
*** Canonically, Luke has about six Zeltron fangirls, and one [[Even the Guys Want Him|Zeltron fanboy]] in [[Marvel Star Wars]].
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*** [[Christopher Eccleston]] still has his own, slightly more mature, college-age, following. This might seem odd, considering he only got one season, but consider that Paul McGann only had one TV movie, yet still got a Brigade.
*** [[Christopher Eccleston]] still has his own, slightly more mature, college-age, following. This might seem odd, considering he only got one season, but consider that Paul McGann only had one TV movie, yet still got a Brigade.
* The John Crichton Estrogen Brigate was very vocal during the run of ''[[Farscape]]'.
* The John Crichton Estrogen Brigate was very vocal during the run of ''[[Farscape]]'.
* For an example of this phenomenon at its peak, go visit a ''[[Supernatural (TV series)|Supernatural]]'' convention. Guaranteed at least 90% women. One notable convention, Wincon (formerly known as WinchesterCon) used to have a women-only policy -- male fans were only admitted if they were accompanied by a female fan. They've relaxed that restriction, but still maintain a strict anti-harrassment policy to create a "safe space" for female fans to express themselves.
* For an example of this phenomenon at its peak, go visit a ''[[Supernatural (TV series)|Supernatural]]'' convention. Guaranteed at least 90% women. One notable convention, Wincon (formerly known as WinchesterCon) used to have a women-only policy—male fans were only admitted if they were accompanied by a female fan. They've relaxed that restriction, but still maintain a strict anti-harrassment policy to create a "safe space" for female fans to express themselves.
** Female fans ''and'' [[Even the Guys Want Him|queer fans too.]] For a sample of ''Supernatural'''s appeal to the GBTQ community, [http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/show/supernatural/recaps.php check the recaps on] on [[Television Without Pity]], where longtime recapper Demian (a gay man) provides strong story analysis while calling Jensen Ackles "Ducky Lips."
** Female fans ''and'' [[Even the Guys Want Him|queer fans too.]] For a sample of ''Supernatural'''s appeal to the GBTQ community, [https://web.archive.org/web/20130703060836/http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/show/supernatural/recaps.php check the recaps on] on [[Television Without Pity]], where longtime recapper Demian (a gay man) provides strong story analysis while calling Jensen Ackles "Ducky Lips."
* The ''[[Sliders]]'' fandom came to be referred to as JODSers, short for "'''J'''erry '''O''''Connell '''D'''roolers '''S'''ociety".
* The ''[[Sliders]]'' fandom came to be referred to as JODSers, short for "'''J'''erry '''O''''Connell '''D'''roolers '''S'''ociety".
* The ''[[Star Trek]]'' franchise has had one from the beginning--in fact, Chekov was added to the show specifically for just such appeal.
* The ''[[Star Trek]]'' franchise has had one from the beginning—in fact, Chekov was added to the show specifically for just such appeal.
** Come ''[[Star Trek: The Next Generation|Star Trek the Next Generation]]'', there was a web site ''named'' the "Johnathan Frakes Estrogen Brigade." ([[Creator's Pet|Wesley]] [[Wil Wheaton|Crusher]] also has one. No, really.)
** Come ''[[Star Trek: The Next Generation]]'', there was a web site ''named'' the "Johnathan Frakes Estrogen Brigade." ([[Creator's Pet|Wesley]] [[Wil Wheaton|Crusher]] also has one. No, really.)
** And the [http://www.trekdoc.com/database/fan/9.htm Spiner Femmes].
** And the [https://web.archive.org/web/20131029110500/http://www.trekdoc.com/database/fan/9.htm Spiner Femmes].
* Jamie Bamber, most recently of ''[[Battlestar Galactica]]'' fame, has a posse of girl fans known in the community as "The Bamber Bunnies", and yet people still misspell his name as "Barber".
* Jamie Bamber, most recently of ''[[Battlestar Galactica]]'' fame, has a posse of girl fans known in the community as "The Bamber Bunnies", and yet people still misspell his name as "Barber".
** Not mentioning, of course, "Baltar's Nymph Brigade." Note that by the final season, he had gained an ''in-show, religiously fanatical [[Estrogen Brigade]]'' derided as a "nymph-squad" by the President.
** Not mentioning, of course, "Baltar's Nymph Brigade." Note that by the final season, he had gained an ''in-show, religiously fanatical Estrogen Brigade'' derided as a "nymph-squad" by the President.
** And "Trucco's Troops".
** And "Trucco's Troops".
* ''[[The Colbert Report]]'', being primarily political satire, has more or less equal gender appeal -- but Colbert's personal Estrogen Brigade has to be seen to be believed. There are threads on the show's official forum dedicated solely to collecting pictures of his ''fingers''.
* ''[[The Colbert Report]]'', being primarily political satire, has more or less equal gender appeal—but Colbert's personal Estrogen Brigade has to be seen to be believed. There are threads on the show's official forum dedicated solely to collecting pictures of his ''fingers''.
** Jon Stewart gets some too, usually in response to the latest episode where he rips some douchebag a new one.
** Jon Stewart gets some too, usually in response to the latest episode where he rips some douchebag a new one.
* The Marcus Cole Estrogen Brigade, honouring the Ranger from ''[[Babylon 5]]'', is still in existence. It doesn't talk about Marcus very much any more, but it has a distinctive voice and staying power.
* The Marcus Cole Estrogen Brigade, honouring the Ranger from ''[[Babylon 5]]'', is still in existence. It doesn't talk about Marcus very much any more, but it has a distinctive voice and staying power.
* Vincent D'Onofrio has acquired a brigade based on his work in ''[[Law and Order: Criminal Intent]]'', though his recent weight gain seems to have caused a lot of internal friction among them.
* Vincent D'Onofrio has acquired a brigade based on his work in ''[[Law and Order: Criminal Intent]]'', though his recent weight gain seems to have caused a lot of internal friction among them.
** The beard has also led to raised eyebrows.
** The beard has also led to raised eyebrows.
* One of the earliest [[Estrogen Brigade|Estrogen Brigades]] was David McCallum's, which sprang to life when the 60s spy series ''[[The Man from U.N.C.L.E.]]'' introduced us to minor character Illya Kuryakin. Kuryakin almost immediately [[Ensemble Darkhorse|caught the attention of (mostly) female fans]], and McCallum went from mere [[Recurring Character]] to series regular to second billing (behind series lead Robert Vaughn) in the first season alone. By the second season, McCallum shared equal billing with Vaughn.
* One of the earliest Estrogen Brigades was David McCallum's, which sprang to life when the 60s spy series ''[[The Man from U.N.C.L.E.]]'' introduced us to minor character Illya Kuryakin. Kuryakin almost immediately [[Ensemble Darkhorse|caught the attention of (mostly) female fans]], and McCallum went from mere [[Recurring Character]] to series regular to second billing (behind series lead Robert Vaughn) in the first season alone. By the second season, McCallum shared equal billing with Vaughn.
* All three presenters on ''[[Top Gear]]'' (Clarkson sometimes jokes about Hammond being on the show solely to [[Mr. Fanservice|attract female viewers]]). And The Stig. And producer Andy Wilman. And James May's blue-patterned flowery shirt...
* All three presenters on ''[[Top Gear]]'' (Clarkson sometimes jokes about Hammond being on the show solely to [[Mr. Fanservice|attract female viewers]]). And The Stig. And producer Andy Wilman. And James May's blue-patterned flowery shirt...
* ''[[The Magnificent Seven (TV series)|The Magnificent Seven]]'' has seven of these, one for each character. They are: Larabee's Ladies, Buck's Babes, Vin's Vixens, Josiah's Jezebels, Nathan's Nightingales, Dunne's Darlins, and (the only non-alliterative one) Ezra's Brigadears.
* ''[[The Magnificent Seven (TV series)|The Magnificent Seven]]'' has seven of these, one for each character. They are: Larabee's Ladies, Buck's Babes, Vin's Vixens, Josiah's Jezebels, Nathan's Nightingales, Dunne's Darlins, and (the only non-alliterative one) Ezra's Brigadears.
* [[Angel]] and Wesley have the biggest Brigades from ''Angel''.
* [[Angel]] and Wesley have the biggest Brigades from ''Angel''.
* The men from ''[[Mystery Science Theater 3000]]'' all seem to have their own little pockets of fangirls if one puts enough effort into finding them (i.e.: head onto [[Deviant ART]] or [[Live Journal]], for starters). Joel, Mike, Forrester, Frank... even Torgo has his fangirls.
* The men from ''[[Mystery Science Theater 3000]]'' all seem to have their own little pockets of fangirls if one puts enough effort into finding them (i.e.: head onto [[Deviant ART]] or [[LiveJournal]], for starters). Joel, Mike, Forrester, Frank... even Torgo has his fangirls.
** And if you look on youtube, you will find that Crow and Tom both have their fair share of fangirls too. Despite (or because?) being robots.
** And if you look on youtube, you will find that Crow and Tom both have their fair share of fangirls too. Despite (or because?) being robots.
* ''[[Iron Chef]]'', particularly in the later years. Sakai, Chen, Kobe, and Morimoto all have their fangirls. Kaga's got some as well, naturally, but surprisingly there are quite a few for the announcer, Kenji Fukui.
* ''[[Iron Chef]]'', particularly in the later years. Sakai, Chen, Kobe, and Morimoto all have their fangirls. Kaga's got some as well, naturally, but surprisingly there are quite a few for the announcer, Kenji Fukui.
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* During the run of ''[[Beauty and the Beast (TV series)|Beauty and The Beast]]'', Ron Perlman acquired one.
* During the run of ''[[Beauty and the Beast (TV series)|Beauty and The Beast]]'', Ron Perlman acquired one.
** On account of Perlman rarely giving interviews and being a virtual nobody at the time. Most viewers didn't even know what he looked like out of makeup and the Brigade was therefore based on sheer romanticism.
** On account of Perlman rarely giving interviews and being a virtual nobody at the time. Most viewers didn't even know what he looked like out of makeup and the Brigade was therefore based on sheer romanticism.
* Peter Capaldi of ''[[The Thick of It]]'' has a sizeable [[Estrogen Brigade]], including plenty of women who [[Too Kinky to Torture|want to be bollocked by Malcolm Tucker]]. Most of them seem to be around [[Grandma, What Massive Hotness You Have!|half his age]], and many are also fans of [[Badass Adorable|Jamie]]. [[Violent Glaswegian|Angry Scots]] seem to be very attractive [[Evil Is Sexy|for some reason]].
* Peter Capaldi of ''[[The Thick of It]]'' has a sizeable Estrogen Brigade, including plenty of women who [[Too Kinky to Torture|want to be bollocked by Malcolm Tucker]]. Most of them seem to be around [[Grandma, What Massive Hotness You Have!|half his age]], and many are also fans of [[Badass Adorable|Jamie]]. [[Violent Glaswegian|Angry Scots]] seem to be very attractive [[Evil Is Sexy|for some reason]].
* ''[[Sherlock]]'s'' [[Benedict Cumberbatch]] and his loyal [[Fan Community Nicknames|Cumberbitches]]. After all, [http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/Benedict/ dirty, dirty girls love Benedict Cumberbatch].
* ''[[Sherlock]]'s'' [[Benedict Cumberbatch]] and his loyal [[Fan Community Nicknames|Cumberbitches]]. After all, [https://web.archive.org/web/20140103033554/http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/Benedict/ dirty, dirty girls love Benedict Cumberbatch].
** WARNING: [[Ear Worm|You will never get that song out of your head.]]
** WARNING: [[Ear Worm|You will never get that song out of your head.]]
* "The Giddies", a group of female ''[[The Goodies]]'' fans, described in ''The [[I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue|Clue]] Bible'' as having a shared interest in the shortness of Graeme's shorts in "Scoutrageous".
* "The Giddies", a group of female ''[[The Goodies]]'' fans, described in ''The [[I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue|Clue]] Bible'' as having a shared interest in the shortness of Graeme's shorts in "Scoutrageous".
* [[Conan O'Brien|Conan's]] HCPN (Hot Coco Picture Night) Wenches. Go to the Team Coco Facebook page on a Sunday night to witness lots of R-rated drooling over photos of him.
* [[Conan O'Brien|Conan's]] HCPN (Hot Coco Picture Night) Wenches. Go to the Team Coco Facebook page on a Sunday night to witness lots of R-rated drooling over photos of him.
* ''KTLA News'': [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUJppdiNm7k#t=0m12s This interview] with Ryan Lochte and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5mmy8mpQSE this interview] with an "Aussie hunk" named James.
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efNouGJgkss This] postgame interview with a [[Shirtless Scene|sweaty, barechested and heavy breathing soccer player]] Bojan Krkic.


== Music ==
== Music ==
* [[The Beatles]], especially compared to their indie years.
* [[The Beatles]], especially compared to their indie years.
* A rather unconventional [[Estrogen Brigade]], but [[Rammstein]] has one as well.
* A rather unconventional Estrogen Brigade, but [[Rammstein]] has one as well.
* Most men in [[Heavy Metal]] bands tend to have rugged looks and long-flowing hair. Do the math.
* Most men in [[Heavy Metal]] bands tend to have rugged looks and long-flowing hair. Do the math.
* Some historians credit [[Elvis Presley]] with advancing the feminist movement because his concerts were places that female fans could go crazy and it was totally okay.
* Some historians credit [[Elvis Presley]] with advancing the feminist movement because his concerts were places that female fans could go crazy and it was totally okay.
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** "Clique"-era Shawn Michaels was blatantly marketed at female fans, to the point of doing a spread in Playgirl. Of course, the result was the male fans turning against him in a way that makes the current reaction to John Cena seem positively tame, culminating in Madison Square Garden rabidly cheering Sid of all wrestlers at Survivor Series 1996. In the pre-Attitude era, that type of fan revolt was shocking.
** "Clique"-era Shawn Michaels was blatantly marketed at female fans, to the point of doing a spread in Playgirl. Of course, the result was the male fans turning against him in a way that makes the current reaction to John Cena seem positively tame, culminating in Madison Square Garden rabidly cheering Sid of all wrestlers at Survivor Series 1996. In the pre-Attitude era, that type of fan revolt was shocking.
*** Many male fans take great pleasure in the stunned reaction of a female fan in the front row of that match when Sid pins Michaels clean in the middle as MSG erupts in cheers.
*** Many male fans take great pleasure in the stunned reaction of a female fan in the front row of that match when Sid pins Michaels clean in the middle as MSG erupts in cheers.
*** This seems to happen to any wrestler that has tha many fangirls. They usually get a lot of hate from the male fans.
*** This seems to happen to any wrestler that has tha many fangirls. They usually get a lot of hate from the male fans.




== Sports ==
== Sports ==
* [[Formula One]]. No, seriously. Ask a girl why she's watching it, most likely she'll say for the pretty boys.
* [[Formula One]]. No, seriously. Ask a girl why she's watching it, most likely she'll say for the pretty boys.
* Rugby -- the most commonly cited reason from female fans as to why they like rugby is "Johnny Wilkinson's legs! Phwoar".
* Rugby—the most commonly cited reason from female fans as to why they like rugby is "Johnny Wilkinson's legs! Phwoar".
** [[The Vicar of Dibley]] uses Geraldine as an example of this.
** [[The Vicar of Dibley]] uses Geraldine as an example of this.
* A few [[The Beautiful Game|soccer]] players. Helps that the players usually exchange shirts at the end of a game. In the 70s and 80s, the size of the shorts was also prime [[Mr. Fanservice]].
* A few [[The Beautiful Game|soccer]] players. Helps that the players on the winning team usually follow the tradition of [[Shirtless Scene|taking their shirts off]] at the end of a game. In the 70s and 80s, the size of the shorts was also prime [[Mr. Fanservice]].
* Most female [[Baseball|St. Louis Cardinals]] fans ''do'' follow the game, but may end up crushing on a player that they like. It's not usually enough to be called an Estrogen Brigade, but now David Freese is developing one since he [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|saved the Cardinals from losing the 2011 World Series at the very last minute of Game 6]] ''and'' he's cute as a button.
* Most female [[Baseball|St. Louis Cardinals]] fans ''do'' follow the game, but may end up crushing on a player that they like. It's not usually enough to be called an Estrogen Brigade, but now David Freese is developing one since he [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|saved the Cardinals from losing the 2011 World Series at the very last minute of Game 6]] ''and'' he's cute as a button.



== Theater ==
== Theater ==
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* Raziel from ''[[Legacy of Kain]]'' has this, despite lacking a lower jaw.
* Raziel from ''[[Legacy of Kain]]'' has this, despite lacking a lower jaw.
** well, ''every single male character'' in Legacy of Kain.
** well, ''every single male character'' in Legacy of Kain.
* The vast majority of ''[[Star Control|Star Control II]]'' fans are male, but the [http://community.livejournal.com/frungylovers/profile FrungyLovers] [http://www.livejournal.com LiveJournal] community is almost 100 percent female, and ''was'' 100 percent female until recently. Several of them are Admiral ZEX fangirls (unsurprising if you've played the games, but if you think it's only because of the [[Ho Yay]], [[Naughty Tentacles|you have no idea]]). They like to call themselves [[Fan Community Nicknames|Deviant Schoolgirls On Speed]], thanks to a [http://starcontrol.classicgaming.gamespy.com/forum/index.php?topic=1582.0 colorful description of them] made by a poster on a more... 'conservative' forum.
* The vast majority of ''[[Star Control|Star Control II]]'' fans are male, but the [http://community.livejournal.com/frungylovers/profile FrungyLovers] [http://www.livejournal.com LiveJournal] community is almost 100 percent female, and ''was'' 100 percent female until recently. Several of them are Admiral ZEX fangirls (unsurprising if you've played the games, but if you think it's only because of the [[Ho Yay]], [[Naughty Tentacles|you have no idea]]). They like to call themselves [[Fan Community Nicknames|Deviant Schoolgirls On Speed]], thanks to a [http://starcontrol.classicgaming.gamespy.com/forum/index.php?topic=1582.0 colorful description of them]{{Dead link}} made by a poster on a more... 'conservative' forum.
* ''[[Final Fantasy]]'' games tend to have a large estrogen brigade, and, naturally, so does ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'', to the point that they [[Beyond the Impossible|seem to have female-dominated fandoms with a Testosterone Brigade]].
* ''[[Final Fantasy]]'' games tend to have a large estrogen brigade, and, naturally, so does ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'', to the point that they [[Beyond the Impossible|seem to have female-dominated fandoms with a Testosterone Brigade]].
** ''[[Final Fantasy VII]]'' deserves a special mention.
** ''[[Final Fantasy VII]]'' deserves a special mention.
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** [[The Woobie|Otacon]] also has a devoted fangirl base.
** [[The Woobie|Otacon]] also has a devoted fangirl base.
** As does Raiden. And Raikov. [[Bishonen|Though that is hardly a surprise]].
** As does Raiden. And Raikov. [[Bishonen|Though that is hardly a surprise]].
*** Hell, even Volgin gets this. Some people just seem to [[Complete Monster|be into]] [[Psycho Electro|that sort of thing]].
*** Hell, even Volgin gets this. Some people just seem to [[Complete Monster|be into]] [[Psycho Electro|that sort of thing]].
** After the players were introduced to their younger selves, both Ocelot and Roy Campbell have been gathering fangirls rapidly.
** After the players were introduced to their younger selves, both Ocelot and Roy Campbell have been gathering fangirls rapidly.
* The ''[[Ace Attorney]]'' fandom is extremely... vocal about prosecutor Miles Edgeworth. The "Edgey Fan Base" on the biggest fansite's forum takes up literally more than half the posts in the section about Edgeworth's game in the series.
* The ''[[Ace Attorney]]'' fandom is extremely... vocal about prosecutor Miles Edgeworth. The "Edgey Fan Base" on the biggest fansite's forum takes up literally more than half the posts in the section about Edgeworth's game in the series.
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* ''[[Devil May Cry]]''. Sexy Sparda Syndrome. Discuss.
* ''[[Devil May Cry]]''. Sexy Sparda Syndrome. Discuss.
** To say nothing of Dante, Vergil and Nero, who stack RIDICCULOUS amounts of of fangirls. On their own and [[Yaoi Fangirl|in any combination]].
** To say nothing of Dante, Vergil and Nero, who stack RIDICCULOUS amounts of of fangirls. On their own and [[Yaoi Fangirl|in any combination]].
* ''[[Knights of the Old Republic]]'' fan fic writers have a lot of discussion (and drooling) over [http://www.kotorfanmedia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=69 Carth], [http://www.kotorfanmedia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1928 Atton], [http://www.kotorfanmedia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=38 Mical], Canderous, and even [http://www.kotorfanmedia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2065 Bao-Dur].
* ''[[Knights of the Old Republic]]'' fan fic writers have a lot of discussion (and drooling) over [http://www.kotorfanmedia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=69 Carth]{{Dead link}}, [http://www.kotorfanmedia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1928 Atton]{{Dead link}}, [http://www.kotorfanmedia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=38 Mical]{{Dead link}}, Canderous, and even [http://www.kotorfanmedia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2065 Bao-Dur]{{Dead link}}.
* Also from [[BioWare]], ''[[Dragon Age]]'''s [[Adorkable|Alistair]] has an Estrogen Brigade to the point of [[Memetic Sex God]] status - not bad for a character who's canonically a virgin.
* Also from [[BioWare]], ''[[Dragon Age]]'''s [[Adorkable|Alistair]] has an Estrogen Brigade to the point of [[Memetic Sex God]] status - not bad for a character who's canonically a virgin.
* ''[[Team Fortress 2]]'' sure has a ''lot'' of [[Slash|slashy]] fanart and fanfics for a gratuitously violent first person shooter with ([[All There in the Manual|seemingly]]) no plot, doesn't it?
* ''[[Team Fortress 2]]'' sure has a ''lot'' of [[Slash Fic|slash]]y fanart and fanfics for a gratuitously violent first person shooter with ([[All There in the Manual|seemingly]]) no plot, doesn't it?
* [[Anti-Hero|Shadow the Hedgehog]] is disturbingly popular among ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' fans.
* [[Anti-Hero|Shadow the Hedgehog]] is disturbingly popular among ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' fans.
* [[The Atoner|The Arbiter]] and possibly [[Proud Warrior Race Guy|Sangheili/Elites]] ''as a whole,'' have their own Estrogen Brigade. Not to mention of course, the [[Super Soldier|''Master]] [[One-Man Army|Chief.'']] Despite how hard it is to find a [[Halo]] fangirl (not just a casual player, but a straight-up ''fangirl)'' they are out there.
* [[The Atoner|The Arbiter]] and possibly [[Proud Warrior Race Guy|Sangheili/Elites]] ''as a whole,'' have their own Estrogen Brigade. Not to mention of course, the [[Super Soldier|''Master]] [[One-Man Army|Chief.'']] Despite how hard it is to find a [[Halo]] fangirl (not just a casual player, but a straight-up ''fangirl)'' they are out there.
* ''[[Sengoku Basara]]'' all the way. If the hot, predominantly male cast isn't enough to satisfy you, then the ridiculous amounts of [[Ho Yay]] and/or [[Foe Yay]] will.
* ''[[Sengoku Basara]]'' all the way. If the hot, predominantly male cast isn't enough to satisfy you, then the ridiculous amounts of [[Ho Yay]] and/or [[Foe Yay]] will.
* ''[[Professor Layton]]'''s Future Luke/ {{spoiler|Clive}} is definitely the character that generates the most fangirls out of the series.
* ''[[Professor Layton]]'''s Future Luke/ {{spoiler|Clive}} is definitely the character that generates the most fangirls out of the series.
** Also, Luke Triton is incredibly popular amongst the [[Shotacon]] fangirls.
** Also, Luke Triton is incredibly popular amongst the [[Shotacon]] fangirls.
* ''[[Inazuma Eleven]]'' despite being a [[Shonen]] series for children has admittedly made many a girl swoon over middle schoolers.
* ''[[Inazuma Eleven]]'' despite being a [[Shonen]] series for children has admittedly made many a girl swoon over middle schoolers.
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* Let's see, [[The Nostalgia Critic]] is a pretty, pale, weepy [[Jerkass Woobie]] with [[Puppy Dog Eyes]]. Oh male fans, it's so cute of you to think that we fangirls give a damn about what he's reviewing.
* Let's see, [[The Nostalgia Critic]] is a pretty, pale, weepy [[Jerkass Woobie]] with [[Puppy Dog Eyes]]. Oh male fans, it's so cute of you to think that we fangirls give a damn about what he's reviewing.
** This applies to nearly every man on [[That Guy With The Glasses]].
** This applies to nearly every man on [[That Guy With The Glasses]].
* The [http://www.youtube.com/user/STORYOFSHIRTLESS Fit Media Channel] on [[YouTube]] gets a lot of female viewers because the segments like the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGuLwqXFXkM Alan Valdez Fat-Burning Super Sweat Workout] just to [[Eating the Eye Candy|watch]] guys lift weights [[Shirtless Scene|with their shirts off]] and look at their muscles and sweat.

* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H77DRYI2ytw& This] [[YouTube]] slideshow of photos of men's butts.
* [[YouTube]] blogger [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etJNgWyjCfw Connor Murphy], because he [[Walking Shirtless Scene|never wears a shirt]].


== [[Western Animation]] ==
== [[Western Animation]] ==
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** Perhaps to answer this question one should partake in a bit of a drinking game. Whenever you [[Shirtless Scene|see a male character on Avatar lack a shirt]] take one shot. If you can see their chest but they still have their clothes on, take half a shot. There is your answer.
** Perhaps to answer this question one should partake in a bit of a drinking game. Whenever you [[Shirtless Scene|see a male character on Avatar lack a shirt]] take one shot. If you can see their chest but they still have their clothes on, take half a shot. There is your answer.
*** ''Don't go through with this drinking game.'' Your liver will die before you're halfway through the episode.
*** ''Don't go through with this drinking game.'' Your liver will die before you're halfway through the episode.
** Although, it ''is'' [[Live Journal]] and [[Most Fanfic Writers Are Girls]].
** Although, it ''is'' [[LiveJournal]] and [[Most Fanfic Writers Are Girls]].
* ''[[Transformers]]'' has always been aimed at boys, with female characters in the franchise few and far-between. Despite this, the series has a female fanbase -- which is commonly [http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Fan_fiction portrayed] in the fandom as being full of fangirls who ship [[Foe Yay|Megatron/Starscream]].
* ''[[Transformers]]'' has always been aimed at boys, with female characters in the franchise few and far-between. Despite this, the series has a female fanbase—which is commonly [http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Fan_fiction portrayed] in the fandom as being full of fangirls who ship [[Foe Yay|Megatron/Starscream]].
** Starscream in general seems to be fangirl bait, no matter the [[Unicron Trilogy|continuity]]. Nobody's really sure [[All Girls Want Bad Boys|why]].
** Starscream in general seems to be fangirl bait, no matter the [[Unicron Trilogy|continuity]]. Nobody's really sure [[All Girls Want Bad Boys|why]].
* ''[[Dragon Booster]]'' was also aimed at boys, with only a smattering of female characters. The message board which provided the nexus point for most of the fandom, however, has a substantial female population.
* ''[[Dragon Booster]]'' was also aimed at boys, with only a smattering of female characters. The message board which provided the nexus point for most of the fandom, however, has a substantial female population.
** The same is true for ''[[Storm Hawks]]'',
** The same is true for ''[[Storm Hawks]]'',
* The Warden from ''[[Superjail]]'', and by extension, [[Ink Suit Actor|David Wain]] in ''Wainy Days''.
* The Warden from ''[[Superjail]]'', and by extension, [[Ink Suit Actor|David Wain]] in ''Wainy Days''.
** David Wain recently [http://yepimdavid.deviantart.com/ joined deviantART]. He spends his time there adding sexy fanart of his character to his favourites. It's... unsettling.
** David Wain recently [http://yepimdavid.deviantart.com/ joined deviantART]. He spends his time there adding sexy fanart of his character to his favourites. It's... unsettling.
* [[Fan Art]] of ''[[South Park]]'' tells a lot!
* [[Fan Art]] of ''[[South Park]]'' tells a lot!
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** [[wikipedia:Louis de Saint-Just|Saint-Just]] fans. Enough said. Show up for the [[Knight Templar]], stay for the [[Bishonen]].
** [[wikipedia:Louis de Saint-Just|Saint-Just]] fans. Enough said. Show up for the [[Knight Templar]], stay for the [[Bishonen]].
** Camille Desmoulins also qualifies in a slightly cuter, revolutionary-next-door way. Shouting love letters to his wife while he was being led to the guillotine? Awwwwwwww!
** Camille Desmoulins also qualifies in a slightly cuter, revolutionary-next-door way. Shouting love letters to his wife while he was being led to the guillotine? Awwwwwwww!
* [[Vic Mignogna]], arguably. Originally famous for his English voice-acting of [[Fullmetal Alchemist|Edward Elric]], not something originally aimed at preteen girls, Mignogna has an enormous fandom that may or may not be for anything other than his looks (he's not bad for a guy in his forties, which may add to to [[Squick]] factor of twelve-year-olds loving him) and voice.
* [[Vic Mignogna]], arguably. Originally famous for his English voice-acting of [[Fullmetal Alchemist|Edward Elric]], not something originally aimed at preteen girls, Mignogna had an enormous fandom (until 2019) that may or may not be for anything other than his looks (he's wasn't bad-looking for a guy born in the 1960s, which may add to to [[Squick]] factor of twelve-year-olds loving him) and voice.
** Arguably nothing. It definitely helps that the majority of characters he voices are Bishonen. His fans call themselves the Resembol Rangers, btw.
** Arguably nothing. It definitely helped that the majority of characters he voiced were Bishonen. His fans call themselves the Resembol Rangers, btw.
* [[Barack Obama]], his chief of staff, and for that matter most of his administration. Yes, it's [http://community.livejournal.com/rahmbamarama true].
* [[Barack Obama]], his chief of staff, and for that matter most of his administration. Yes, it's [http://community.livejournal.com/rahmbamarama true].
** At least two entries in ''[[Cracked.com]]'''s 2008 Photoplasty contest [http://www.cracked.com/photoshop_15_the-campaigns-candidates-wish-they-could-run The Campaigns Candidates Wish They Could Run].
** At least two entries in ''[[Cracked.com]]'''s 2008 Photoplasty contest [http://www.cracked.com/photoshop_15_the-campaigns-candidates-wish-they-could-run The Campaigns Candidates Wish They Could Run].
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** The musical ''[[1776]]'' probably helped cement this!
** The musical ''[[1776]]'' probably helped cement this!
*** [[Stupid Sexy Flanders|Damn you, Mister Adams]].
*** [[Stupid Sexy Flanders|Damn you, Mister Adams]].
* [[wikipedia:Johnny %26 Associates|Johnny's Jimusho]]. A whole company full of pretty boys who sing, dance and act just for the sake of this trope
* [[wikipedia:Johnny & Associates|Johnny's Jimusho]]. A whole company full of pretty boys who sing, dance and act just for the sake of this trope
* [[Vladimir Putin]], what with him being a [[Magnificent Bastard]], [[Rated "M" for Manly|hunting tigers]], and [[Shirtless Scene|posing shirtless]].
* [[Vladimir Putin]], what with him being a [[Magnificent Bastard]], [[Rated "M" for Manly|hunting tigers]], and [[Shirtless Scene|posing shirtless]].
* [[The Doctor Oz Show|Dr. Oz]]'s fans. The audience is always ''at least'' 80% female; some days it's hard to spot a guy at all.
* [[The Doctor Oz Show|Dr. Oz]]'s fans. The audience is always ''at least'' 80% female; some days it's hard to spot a guy at all.
* [http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/world-news/topless-tonga-flag-bearer-pita-8573242 Pita Taufaofua], [[Tonga|Tonga's]] [[Walking Shirtless Scene|shirtless and covered with coconut oil]] flag-bearer at the opening ceremonies at the [[Olympic Games|2016 Summer Olympics]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h8YBxsJjmc as demonstrated] by Jenna Bush and Hoda Kotb on ''[[Today]]''.
* The "[[wikipedia:Odagiri effect|Odagiri effect]]", which [[The Other Wiki]] says is "a television phenomenon in which a program attracts a larger than expected number of female viewers because the program stars attractive male actors or characters". It's named for actor [[Joe Odagiri]], whose casting in ''[[Kamen Rider Kuuga]]'' codified the [[Odagiri effect]].


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An enclave of female fans within a traditionally male-dominated fandom. They tend to focus on a particular character or actor, rather than the entire series. Occasionally both sides butt heads over largely superficial reasons, with buckets of opposite-sex awkwardness, which can get defensive. It should also be noted that not all female fans within such a fandom are necessarily of the Estrogen Brigade.

Unfortunately, it is because of this phenomenon that female fans are sometimes regarded with suspicion—especially if she admits that she does, in fact, happen to find some of the male cast members to be physically pleasing to the eye. However, finding certain members of the cast to be pleasing to look at does not necessarily preclude a fan from liking other aspects of a particular work—and, thus, should not automatically invalidate her (or him) as being a "true fan".

An Estrogen Brigade is easily attracted by hints of Ho Yay, since most members of such brigades seem to be Yaoi Fangirls at heart. See also Multiple Demographic Appeal.

Not to be confused with Amazon Brigade. Its Spear Counterpart is the Testosterone Brigade.

Examples of Estrogen Brigade include:

Anime and Manga

Comic Books

  • The Green Lantern Corps has a surprisingly strong following in the Feminist Comics Blogosphere, only in part because of the franchise's 50-year tradition of spandex-clad butt shots. Hal is "endearingly sexist", John is "the serious one", Guy is the "gruff den mother", Kyle is The Woobie, and Alan is the sexy older guy, and, Great Galaxies, I think I'm about to make a Five-Man Band entry about the GLC.
  • Deadpool has had an estrogen brigade of fun, quirky, female geeks for a few years now, mostly because they get a kick out of his Black Comedy sense of humor. Now he's getting a more traditional estrogen brigade, since he's being portrayed by Ryan Reynolds.
  • The female Batman fandom is still very small, but type any combination of male characters into the search bar on Deviant ART some time, if you dare. With all the Foe Yay, the fact Bruce Wayne is generally depicted as a rather handsome fellow, ass-kicking female characters, Nightwing, and a huge cast of interesting villains, many of whom are just begging for Draco in Leather Pants treatment... it's sort of a wonder the Estrogen Brigade for Batman isn't bigger.
  • Nightcrawler and Gambit are probably the two most popular Marvel characters for fangirls.
  • Another Testosterone Brigade example can be found in the fandom of Witchblade, a comic whose main character is a Dude Magnet who also has Les Yay moments with her Lancer.


Film - Animation

  • The Lorax made the Once-ler a human. A very cute human. A very cute human with a sympathetic POV. Cue the fangirls.


Film - Live Acton

  • Darth Maul has an estrogen brigade.
    • At least one "estrogen brigade" site for Darth Maul that was done mostly tongue-in-cheek, and it was brilliant.
    • Han Solo, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Luke, and Anakin can also be considered this
  • Pick a male from The Dark Knight Saga. Any male from The Dark Knight Saga. They will have fangirls. Especially the Joker.
  • Rumor has it that the only reason those of the female persuasion agreed to sit through 300 with their boyfriends was the highly buff, almost entirely-male cast who seemed unaquainted with the concept of a shirt.
  • Pictured is the cover to a FoxTrot collection, showing how a good portion of Lord of the Rings viewers were fangirls oogling Orlando Bloom (many others differed chiefly in that they preferred Viggo Mortensen).
    • Then there was the embarrassing fawning over an extra that female fans christened "Figwit."
  • The "mud wrestling" fight in Thor does a lot for the ladies in the audience, I'm told.
    • Thor has fans, but Loki's (and by extension, Tom Hiddleston's) Estrogen Brigade is incredibly vocal and devoted. They call themselves "Hiddlestoners." You can read a (very profane) Affectionate Parody of their behavior here.
    • Tom Hiddleston's fanbase just exploded into existence after Thor, even though the film mostly presented Chris Hemsworth as the default hunk totty. However, thanks to Loki's characterisation and his Bishonen looks (and Hiddleston's Mean Character, Nice Actor personality), Hiddleston became the Ensemble Darkhorse at least where the ladies were concerned. To the point where it took Marvel and the rest of the world by surprise. At the NYC Comic Con 2011, with plenty of stars and producers from the Avengers attending a panel, 99% of the audience questions were directed at Hiddleston, with audible gushing from the lady fans. And with plenty of awkwardness for the hosts and the rest of the panel members. It's notable because the hosts and the co-stars were clearly not expecting it, and even Hiddleston himself seems to have been overwhelmed by it. See it yourself, here.
  • In the previews for Captain America: The First Avenger, Chris Evans is acquiring an estrogen brigade.
  • Prince Nuada, from Hellboy II, also has an estrogen brigade. There's even a community to bring him back in a prequel movie.


Literature

  • Harry Potter. Have you seen the fangirl hordes? Mere death is no obstacle to Remus/Sirius.
  • The Aubrey-Maturin book series is about the adventures of a naval ship captain during the Napoleonic Wars. Readers come for the history; they stay for the massive Ho Yay between Captain Aubrey and his best friend, the ship's surgeon and resident Badass Bookworm, Stephen Maturin. (Even without the slash, Stephen's pack of loyal fangirls would still give the Aubreyad a decently sized Estrogen Brigade.) It doesn't help that they call each other things like "my joy", "my heart", "my soul"...
    • The movie also comes with Russell Crowe, Paul Bettany, and a scene with a half-naked injured!Stephen moaning in a way that sounds a tad erotic. While Jack's hands press down on his naked abdomen.
    • Stephen's LOVE INTEREST even says to him that "anyone would think you were married to that man"!
  • While perhaps falling short of this trope, Terry Pratchett says in The Art of Discworld that Greebo (yep, that Greebo) garnered a lot of female fans after his first appearance in human form.
    • He also says of Vetinari "I hear he has his own, all-female, fan club." (The "Sisters of Vetinari").
  • Les Misérables' Amis de l'ABC: A group of 9 young revolutionaries, some of whom are very close, results in a pretty much all-female fandom. While there is a preference for Enjolras, fangirls often write slash involving any pairings of these.
    • Hell, an almost entirely male cast of charecters pretty much guaruntees fangirls will find someone to Squee about!
  • In the first volume of Ivanhoe, the narrator spends a lot of time repeatedly pointing out how much the ladies enjoy tournaments and matches between knights even more enthusiastically than many men. Lampshade Hanging or just Genre Savvy?


Live Action TV

  • The David Duchovny Estrogen Brigade (The X-Files) and the Peter Davison, Paul McGann, and David Tennant Estrogen Brigades (Doctor Who) are two (four?) of the most famous examples. The episode "The Shakespeare Code" even had the eponymous playwright joining the Tennant Brigade.
    • It got to the point where there was a one-hit wonder by Bree Sharp called "David Duchovny, Why Won't You Love Me?"
    • There was a Sylvester McCoy Estrogen Brigade on rec.arts.drwho.
      • Christopher Eccleston still has his own, slightly more mature, college-age, following. This might seem odd, considering he only got one season, but consider that Paul McGann only had one TV movie, yet still got a Brigade.
  • The John Crichton Estrogen Brigate was very vocal during the run of Farscape'.
  • For an example of this phenomenon at its peak, go visit a Supernatural convention. Guaranteed at least 90% women. One notable convention, Wincon (formerly known as WinchesterCon) used to have a women-only policy—male fans were only admitted if they were accompanied by a female fan. They've relaxed that restriction, but still maintain a strict anti-harrassment policy to create a "safe space" for female fans to express themselves.
  • The Sliders fandom came to be referred to as JODSers, short for "Jerry O'Connell Droolers Society".
  • The Star Trek franchise has had one from the beginning—in fact, Chekov was added to the show specifically for just such appeal.
  • Jamie Bamber, most recently of Battlestar Galactica fame, has a posse of girl fans known in the community as "The Bamber Bunnies", and yet people still misspell his name as "Barber".
    • Not mentioning, of course, "Baltar's Nymph Brigade." Note that by the final season, he had gained an in-show, religiously fanatical Estrogen Brigade derided as a "nymph-squad" by the President.
    • And "Trucco's Troops".
  • The Colbert Report, being primarily political satire, has more or less equal gender appeal—but Colbert's personal Estrogen Brigade has to be seen to be believed. There are threads on the show's official forum dedicated solely to collecting pictures of his fingers.
    • Jon Stewart gets some too, usually in response to the latest episode where he rips some douchebag a new one.
  • The Marcus Cole Estrogen Brigade, honouring the Ranger from Babylon 5, is still in existence. It doesn't talk about Marcus very much any more, but it has a distinctive voice and staying power.
  • Vincent D'Onofrio has acquired a brigade based on his work in Law and Order: Criminal Intent, though his recent weight gain seems to have caused a lot of internal friction among them.
    • The beard has also led to raised eyebrows.
  • One of the earliest Estrogen Brigades was David McCallum's, which sprang to life when the 60s spy series The Man from U.N.C.L.E. introduced us to minor character Illya Kuryakin. Kuryakin almost immediately caught the attention of (mostly) female fans, and McCallum went from mere Recurring Character to series regular to second billing (behind series lead Robert Vaughn) in the first season alone. By the second season, McCallum shared equal billing with Vaughn.
  • All three presenters on Top Gear (Clarkson sometimes jokes about Hammond being on the show solely to attract female viewers). And The Stig. And producer Andy Wilman. And James May's blue-patterned flowery shirt...
  • The Magnificent Seven has seven of these, one for each character. They are: Larabee's Ladies, Buck's Babes, Vin's Vixens, Josiah's Jezebels, Nathan's Nightingales, Dunne's Darlins, and (the only non-alliterative one) Ezra's Brigadears.
  • Angel and Wesley have the biggest Brigades from Angel.
  • The men from Mystery Science Theater 3000 all seem to have their own little pockets of fangirls if one puts enough effort into finding them (i.e.: head onto Deviant ART or LiveJournal, for starters). Joel, Mike, Forrester, Frank... even Torgo has his fangirls.
    • And if you look on youtube, you will find that Crow and Tom both have their fair share of fangirls too. Despite (or because?) being robots.
  • Iron Chef, particularly in the later years. Sakai, Chen, Kobe, and Morimoto all have their fangirls. Kaga's got some as well, naturally, but surprisingly there are quite a few for the announcer, Kenji Fukui.
    • Its successor, Iron Chef America is the same way.
  • Methos of Highlander the Series had/has a Boxer Brigade, due to his appearing in his underwear in an episode.
  • During the run of Beauty and The Beast, Ron Perlman acquired one.
    • On account of Perlman rarely giving interviews and being a virtual nobody at the time. Most viewers didn't even know what he looked like out of makeup and the Brigade was therefore based on sheer romanticism.
  • Peter Capaldi of The Thick of It has a sizeable Estrogen Brigade, including plenty of women who want to be bollocked by Malcolm Tucker. Most of them seem to be around half his age, and many are also fans of Jamie. Angry Scots seem to be very attractive for some reason.
  • Sherlock's Benedict Cumberbatch and his loyal Cumberbitches. After all, dirty, dirty girls love Benedict Cumberbatch.
  • "The Giddies", a group of female The Goodies fans, described in The Clue Bible as having a shared interest in the shortness of Graeme's shorts in "Scoutrageous".
  • Conan's HCPN (Hot Coco Picture Night) Wenches. Go to the Team Coco Facebook page on a Sunday night to witness lots of R-rated drooling over photos of him.
  • KTLA News: This interview with Ryan Lochte and this interview with an "Aussie hunk" named James.
  • This postgame interview with a sweaty, barechested and heavy breathing soccer player Bojan Krkic.

Music

  • The Beatles, especially compared to their indie years.
  • A rather unconventional Estrogen Brigade, but Rammstein has one as well.
  • Most men in Heavy Metal bands tend to have rugged looks and long-flowing hair. Do the math.
  • Some historians credit Elvis Presley with advancing the feminist movement because his concerts were places that female fans could go crazy and it was totally okay.


Professional Wrestling

  • Tends to be rather obvious in Professional Wrestling, and tend to have their own favorites apart from the rest of the crowd. Ever notice how the cheers for a Jeff Hardy, or a Randy Orton, or especially John Cena are much higher-pitched than the cheers for any other wrestler? Especially when Jeff takes off his shirt...
    • Randy, to be fair, makes all his matches overflow with Ho Yay. He has a rather... "intense" battle stare, no?
    • This can certainly be traced back to Ricky Morton of the Rock 'n' Roll Express, who was one of the first wrestlers to be continually beat up to appeal to the mothering instincts of female fans.
    • "Clique"-era Shawn Michaels was blatantly marketed at female fans, to the point of doing a spread in Playgirl. Of course, the result was the male fans turning against him in a way that makes the current reaction to John Cena seem positively tame, culminating in Madison Square Garden rabidly cheering Sid of all wrestlers at Survivor Series 1996. In the pre-Attitude era, that type of fan revolt was shocking.
      • Many male fans take great pleasure in the stunned reaction of a female fan in the front row of that match when Sid pins Michaels clean in the middle as MSG erupts in cheers.
      • This seems to happen to any wrestler that has tha many fangirls. They usually get a lot of hate from the male fans.


Sports

Theater

  • Roger from Rent definitely has one! As does Mark to a lesser extent.
  • The title character of The Phantom of the Opera has a pretty large one, resulting in an almost all-female fandom. And if you don't like Erik, there's always Raoul...
  • Les Misérables probably got its initial female fanbase almost entirely from Michael Ball (the West End's original Marius), Michael Maguire (Broadway's original Enjolras), and/or Colm Wilkinson (the original Jean Valjean).


Video Games


Web Original

Western Animation

  • Ben 10 and its sequel are both aimed at preteen boys, but the shows have garnered a fair amount of teenage-and-up female fans. Some of them enjoy the show as an entity, but others just watch it for one of the male characters (or for the Shipping...). Kevin is the most popular (particularly when he grows up), but some girls prefer Grandpa Max.
  • Avatar: The Last Airbender's target demographic is 6-11 year old boys, so how do they explain this?
    • Perhaps to answer this question one should partake in a bit of a drinking game. Whenever you see a male character on Avatar lack a shirt take one shot. If you can see their chest but they still have their clothes on, take half a shot. There is your answer.
      • Don't go through with this drinking game. Your liver will die before you're halfway through the episode.
    • Although, it is LiveJournal and Most Fanfic Writers Are Girls.
  • Transformers has always been aimed at boys, with female characters in the franchise few and far-between. Despite this, the series has a female fanbase—which is commonly portrayed in the fandom as being full of fangirls who ship Megatron/Starscream.
    • Starscream in general seems to be fangirl bait, no matter the continuity. Nobody's really sure why.
  • Dragon Booster was also aimed at boys, with only a smattering of female characters. The message board which provided the nexus point for most of the fandom, however, has a substantial female population.
  • The Warden from Superjail, and by extension, David Wain in Wainy Days.
    • David Wain recently joined deviantART. He spends his time there adding sexy fanart of his character to his favourites. It's... unsettling.
  • Fan Art of South Park tells a lot!
    • Parodied in the episode "The Ring", where they point out that most girls for the Jonas Brothers (or any boy band for that matter) just go to their concerts to look at them rather than listening to their music.
  • In King Arthur's Disasters, Lancelot has his own little cult of ladies following him around in "The Yodeling Dolphin of Kirkwall" and "Mission: Implausible." Hell, some gaurds were hired in one episode to drive 'em away.

Random girl takes a lock of Lancelot's hair
Random Girl: I'VE GOT SOME OF HIS HAIR!!!!!!

  • Similiarly to Avatar: The Last Airbender, Teen Titans, despite being originally aimed at boys aged below 12, has attracted many older female fans, mainly due to a crapload of characters serving the role of Estrogen Brigade Baits.
  • Danny Phantom apparently has a huge college age female following. A lot of that has to do with Vlad and Dark Danny.


Real Life

  1. Kotetsu, for example, was written to draw in older men